[00:00:04] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Consumer confidence falls to a low since 2014. Some folks are thinking about getting married. The problem is it costs too much.
[00:00:27] Ballot Fraud seems to be everywhere. And I don't know how to say this, but federal watchdog telling Trump he can't save money. Everybody's against Trump. The question is why, even when he tries to do good. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans, Sam Bushman, with you live and hard-hitting news starts now. We've got the Liberty Roundtable live show, and right after the CSPOA, the Constitutional Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association webinar,
[00:00:56] If you're a member, you can join CSPOA.org to become a member. And the good sheriff is in the house. Welcome, sir. Thank you, Sam. It's great to be with you this beautiful Wednesday morning. And I mean beautiful because we had two days off and off rain, and boy, the sun is shining, and it is a beautiful day in Arizona, folks. And it's cooling down in Arizona too, right? So you got the sun out, but it's not so hot? Well, yeah, during the rainstorm, especially it cooled down. My wife says she even got a little cold.
[00:01:26] I'm cold there, but no. Yeah, I know. You didn't get cold a bit, did you, Sheriff? Not at all. All right. Sheriff Mack's book, The Democrat Murder of America, available at murderofamerica.com. If you have a CSPOA member, there's some gifts for you as well, so check that out, cspoa.org. All right, there's so much information that I find interesting. Let's talk about weddings. Do you remember how much it cost when you got married, Sheriff?
[00:01:53] No, because Don's family paid for most of it, I guess. But I remember how much it cost when Lucy got married. How much? And it was about $6,000. Okay, and that was back in what day? When did she get married? In 2000? 2000. Oh, 2000s. No, yeah, it was 2009, I think. Wait a minute. What year is it? So she's been married for like 17 years?
[00:02:24] No, it would have to have been more. It would have to have been earlier because she has a 20-year-old daughter. Okay, so just say 22 years, 2004 range, I think. Yeah, right. All right, and it cost $6,000. When I got married back in 1992, it cost $5,000. The average guesstimation, and they don't have solid figures for back when you got married, Sheriff, it's too long ago, and they really didn't have organized, keeping track of everything. They didn't monitor everything you did back then, Sheriff. I don't think it cost very much.
[00:02:54] They bought her a dress, and we had the reception at the church, so. Yeah, there you go. When did you get married? 1975? Three? 75. All right, my guess is good. All right, 1975. They guessed the average wedding back in 1975 was about $3,000. Yeah, but ours was even less. Oh, I'm sure, because you didn't have to get some location and all that kind of stuff. If you're religious, a lot of times the marriages are cheaper. My wedding costs $5,000.
[00:03:22] I've had several children get married, and I've spent $5,000 to $6,000 on their weddings. When I say I've spent, we've actually split it. What I usually do is go to the family and just say, listen, I don't care if it's a boy or a girl. We'll just split the wedding in half. And that way it makes it easier on everybody. Yeah. Well, it seems to be getting more expensive all the time because people just, you know, they just want to spend money and they want to look elaborate and glamorous.
[00:03:52] And I personally think, you know, they spend too much money on the bride and groom. What they ought to do is wait. And if you're still married after 25 years, then, hey, we'll do a real wedding for you. Right. Yeah. Celebrate the silver anniversary if you make it that long. That's right. Celebrate the real success. Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because John Johnson over at Newser has done some research on this stuff and reports. I got they got they got a new analysis of more than 10,000 weddings.
[00:04:19] And they say New Jersey is one of the priciest states. About fifty seven thousand dollars. Followed by Rhode Island at fifty one grand. New York, generally forty nine thousand dollars. Vermont, forty seven thousand. Massachusetts, forty five thousand. Now, that's the northeast and that's what you get. They're just rich and expensive over there. If you go to Wyoming, it's the cheapest.
[00:04:49] About seventeen grand. Idaho, Utah, near eighteen thousand dollars. Alaska, Arkansas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, around nineteen grand. Northeast is more expensive overall. And I guess Maine and New Hampshire, thirty seven thousand dollars. More than double Wyoming. And when you look at cities, New York City is the most expensive. Eighty eight thousand dollars.
[00:05:19] Well, I can't even comprehend these kinds of dollars. Where do these people get this kind of money? Well, yeah, no kidding. And so for the rich and the famous. Yeah, go for it. You know, but I would never spend money like that. Does that include the price of the honeymoon? You know, like going to Hawaii? No, no, no. No, that's just the wedding, buddy. And that doesn't include the ring either. The groom's got to buy the ring, you know. Yeah. That doesn't count either, right? Well, maybe not. It's just insanity.
[00:05:49] And I'm just telling you, you know, the five thousand that we got married, you know, that basically fed a bunch of people. We had a sit down dinner and everything, Sheriff. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's just I don't know what you spend that money on. Donald Trump Jr. Had a wedding and a Russian oligarch paid for it. Now there's a Utah congressman looking into that and everybody's concerned about pay to play and, you know, concerns there. The Russiagate thing just about died because they found out there was no truth to it. Now this brings life back into the story right before the midterm, Sheriff.
[00:06:19] Yeah. Yeah. So all these congressmen can go home and campaign and get their daughters and kids married off, I guess, you know. But I'm surprised you didn't say Washington, D.C. is a separate place. And maybe that's the most expensive place to have a wedding. But the first, the top five you read are very liberal places. Yes, they are. Extremely liberal places. Extremely so. Wow. I wonder if there's a political connection there.
[00:06:50] I don't know. But I think Mondalmi needs to go ahead and subsidize weddings, don't you think? When it's 88 grand, I mean, he could at least pay 50 or 60 of it. Come on. He needs to subsidize his retirement and get the heck out of it. You know when I say this, I'm joking, right, ladies and gentlemen? Don't think I'm serious for one second. And, you know, the difference is Trump's or Donald Trump Jr.'s wedding. I mean, first off, it's not even his first wedding. Secondly, the thing costs millions. Did you hear about that? No. Yeah. Trump got married.
[00:07:17] Donald Trump Jr. got married, cost millions of dollars, and the Russians paid for a lot of it. A Russian oligarch kind of guy paid for it. Now you got a real Russian hoax. Right? But it's a big old scandal now, and people are looking into it. So I'm not here to attack Jr. I think he's a nice guy. I had him on the show with us. I don't understand why, if you've got billions of your own money, though, why you would have some Russian oligarch pay for your wedding and create these ties. I don't see that. I don't see why you would ever even do that, Sheriff. I don't get it. Something's not right if we heard the whole story.
[00:07:47] They never offered to pay for mine. That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah. The $3,000 or $2,500 it cost. What's the matter with him? Anyway, I find that very interesting. Next up on the table, vote election fraud. A Utah postal worker. The guy's 34 years old, Sheriff. Yeah. His name is Davin... C-E? How do you say that? S-E-E-I? Davin Matty C or something like that? Yeah, probably.
[00:08:16] Whatever the dude's name is. He was a postal worker, and I guess he got arrested on a felony charge of destroying or delaying ballots being delivered. He threw more than 300 ballots away, and I guess they say that this is political, and he says, no, I was just lazy. He faces up to five years in prison. He pled not guilty. Yeah. And no political motive there, Sheriff, right? Of course not.
[00:08:46] He said there wasn't. Okay, good. I'm just not sure. No election fraud there. Better reported no election fraud. But he said his motive was just to lessen his load of work. Yeah. Wow. I mean, some people go to the chatbots for that. He just dumps his, you know. Now, they say the case came to light, and this is what I find interesting, Sheriff. The case came to light after residents complained to the county clerk about missing ballots. Yeah.
[00:09:17] Justice Department officials cited the incident as a reason why we got to have support for Donald Trump's push for no mail-in ballot stuff. And I guess he was released on bail. There's a trial set for November 30th. Of course, he no longer works for the post office, Sheriff. Are you glad about that? Oh, that's good. Well, he pled not guilty, but then he said his excuse was to just lessen his load at work. Yeah. So he just said, I did it, but I'm not guilty. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:09:45] So, you know, that still reminds me. When you're that stupid and you're that criminal, listen to the Fifth Amendment where you have a right to remain silent and shut up. I just don't get the story, and I don't mean to laugh because it's election fraud. Well, it is funny. It's serious.
[00:10:08] But I just look at this thing, though, and I just go, did these citizens really go, hey, man, I've been going out to the mailbox. You know, I go out and look for money in my mailbox because I'm a consultant and checks come in and I got to make sure that my clients pay and I got to keep track of my own accounting. So I do go out and, you know, check on checks, if you will. But do people really go out to the mailbox and say, hey, man, I'm missing my ballots. My ballots are supposed to be coming, Sheriff. Right. Do you know people that do that for real? Yeah. Well, no, I don't.
[00:10:38] But I know I got six ballots for Don and me back in 2020. Yeah, well, maybe you should send some of those guys that are missing their ballots, you know? Yeah. They could have some of them. Don't do it. Don't do it. You'll go to jail. Hold on. Be good to share with us, ladies and gentlemen. This is Liberty Roundtable Live. Every day, Americans are told to hate each other while the people in power keep winning. But what if there's another path?
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[00:13:01] We've got a couple more to write, Sheriff, so we'll work on that. In the meantime, though, this post office guy literally just got rid of a bunch of ballots. And I just, it's shocking to me, though, that, you know, people would be like calling up their county person. Hey, man, my ballot's not in the mail. Can you check on that for me? How did this get discovered like that? I just find it bizarre. Don't you? Well, yeah, a little bit, because I would, but maybe these people always vote by mail and they go, hey, what's going on?
[00:13:28] So I guess that's a reasonable thing to see. But, you know, by the time the post office got the 10th call, they go, hmm, smell a rat here. Maybe we better check into that. Because I have had the most difficult time with the USPS because, guess what? CSPOA got hacked and hacked bad.
[00:13:54] Somebody's been using our name and my name and our website to send out flyers to people to send money to an address out in Virginia. And now let's be clear so people understand, though. There was no technical hack, though. They just stole our information and basically pretended they were us. It was identity theft. Right. Agreed. So I just want to make sure people understand that none of anybody's information has been leaked or anything like that. It's not like that.
[00:14:24] It's that they did information theft and they pretended they were us and routed money different places without our knowledge. That's what happened. Correct. No, that's absolutely correct. I'm glad you made that distinction. I just want to make sure people know that their information is not, I repeat, not compromised. And anything that you send to PO Box 567 in Higley, Arizona, that's solid. Yeah, I picked that up. I'm the only person that picks it up unless my wife does it, but she does it very seldom.
[00:14:52] That's our post office box for CSPOA. But what happened is, I guess the crooks tried to rotate their location and they had discontinued that particular PO Box. And so somebody in the post office looked up CSPOA and found that we had a PO Box in Higley. So a post office worker did that and they sent us a check that was meant for the crooks. And so I go, what is this?
[00:15:22] And it took me a while to figure out. I said, what? And then I realized what had happened. And then I turned it over to the post office and they told me to call this other part of the post office. And I sent them everything they asked for, all the pictures of the checks and the flyer and the original letter that came to me, that got forwarded to CSPOA and to me. And then they never responded. They said, OK, we got it.
[00:15:52] Two weeks later, nothing has happened. I said, hey, what are you going to do now? No response. No response. So I went back to the post office here and I said, nobody's responding. And she really got going on it. And she's got somebody investigating it now. Well, I hope we can get that solved. But ladies and gentlemen, if you do anything with us online, there's no issues. If you send money to the PO Box, there's no issues. Again, it's just somebody stole the identity, sent out letters and tried to route things to a different address.
[00:16:19] The problem is they made a mistake and we caught them at it. So there you have that. That's the real story. Yeah, you would think they would be able to follow up in the identification. Here's what they're going to do. They're going to blame it on Trump and say, since Trump laid everybody off, they just can't. It's Donald's fault, you know? Oh, yeah. Forgot. Whereas the truth is Donald's basically saving enough money in government where we could do a lot of good if we'd just do it. But here's the problem. Yeah. Here's the problem.
[00:16:48] A federal watchdog now says that President Trump cannot withhold more than $800 million past the fiscal year or fiscal year-end deadline. The government accountability officer, the GAO, told lawmakers September 29th that, hey, they just can't do that beyond the expiration of September 30th. So Trump's got to spend the money.
[00:17:14] Trump sought to cancel funding across, quote, 11 appropriations accounts. And the GOA says the money, the government accountability office says the money must be available unless Congress completes the request to stop it. They got to take legislative action. The problem is the House is on vacation, so they can't take any action. So this is what I mean when I say that, hey, that's a do-nothing administration. I'm not blaming President Trump. I'm telling you that Congress are clowns.
[00:17:42] Why are they gone right now when they have the chance to stop $800 million, almost a billion dollars of money that ought not be spent in the first place? Trump's trying to do right, and now you've got this GAO government bureaucracy going, no, you can't do that, President Trump. It's insane, Sheriff.
[00:18:01] Well, it is, Sam, and there's one particular area where the President of the United States, as the CEO of the federal government, he's the chief executive officer of the federal government. If he wants to lay people off or they need to lay people off, he does not need to get permission from Congress to lay people off. That's a personnel matter.
[00:18:26] And he can do that to completely dissolve any of the federal agencies he might need to get. But I don't want him to. I don't want him to check with Congress on that. Okay? Okay, they appropriated it. And he says, no, I'm giving it back to you. These people are unnecessary, and I'm getting rid of all of them. And so there's nothing that Congress or the court should be able to do about that. I agree.
[00:18:55] And so what's going to happen, we don't know. But here's my point. If Congress appropriates money and then, hey, somehow the money is used in a dereliction of duty or inappropriately or not exactly to their guidelines or I don't know the exact detail. I'm just saying that's where the President has every right to go. Hold on a minute. Just a minute. I'm not spending money in this manner. I'm not doing that. I think he has every right.
[00:19:19] But, again, this is where government has absolutely the first round four years and now two years Congress and the government at every level, the judges, all these bureaucracies and all these, you know, unconstitutional lack of check and balances, agencies. And everybody seems just everything Donald tries to do. That's right. They just absolutely try to shut him down in every single turn. The deep state is so abusive, so hostile, so criminal, so over the top. This is a perfect example. It's crazy. Yeah, it is crazy.
[00:19:48] And, Sam, it's like, oh, we're used to overspending and spending money on ridiculous things, and we've got all these ridiculous bureaucracies, and we have this nightmare bureaucracy running our country today instead of Congress and instead of the President. And, oh, it would just be horrible not to keep that spending going. Come on.
[00:20:11] Now, Sam, the absurdity of spending in Washington, D.C. is raising its ugly political head. Amen. And I find it just fascinating how this is an example where they're just going to blame Trump. But, look, I think the Senate needs to sign a bill before the 30th or something like that, don't they? Before, like, I don't have the exact date, but they need to sign a bill. Congress or House passed it. The Senate needs to work on it to keep the government open.
[00:20:41] And if I'm Trump, I'm just saying, hey, use that $800 million to keep the government open then, whatever. I'm all for closing the government as long as Congress are the first ones not to be paid. All for it. Go home. Send those crooks home and leave us alone. They'll never do that, though, Sam. They won't defund themselves. That's for sure. And see, that's where the problems reside, folks.
[00:21:08] I mean, okay, I guess Congress already passed the temporary spending bill. The Senate passed it August 8th. House passed it September the 1st. And then Trump signed it, I think, on the 11th or September the 2nd, Trump signed it. So anyway, all I'm saying is that, you know, these guys are clowns. And I think that Trump should have every right to save the taxpayers' funding. But no, even that's in battle when Trump tries to do something right. All right.
[00:21:37] Speaking of election fraud, Shasta, California comes to mind once again. And this is the guy in Shasta, California that wanted to hire Tina Peters for some guidance because he's worried about how to preserve balance. Sheriff? Well, you know, your first thing would you would say, well, she got a nine-year prison sentence because of what she did. But she got out early because the governor of Colorado commuted her sentence.
[00:22:06] And I'm not a fan of the governor, but we've got to give him credit where credit's due. Good for him. Oh, I don't like him at all. But even him, as woke as he is and as much as he disliked Tina, he knew that giving someone a white-collar crime like this, no criminal activity in her entire life, a gold star mother, a very good person. And he goes, nine years for this? Are you kidding me right now? For securing balance?
[00:22:36] And that was her job? Well, maybe this has gone a little bit too far. And even these crazies that are in government, like the governor in Colorado, said, no, this is wrong and released her. I'm glad he did that. But this should have never happened to this good woman in the first place. But I do question, you get the person who went to prison for this and say, yeah, come and help me.
[00:23:06] You know, is Tina Peters a very knowledgeable person and could she help? Yes. But I think publicly, it didn't look very good. Yeah. Sadly, it didn't look very good, although it should, because their credentials, in my opinion, are stellar. Yeah, they are. But it turned out that Shasta County, California schedules 2024 ballot shredding.
[00:23:30] Yeah, they scheduled the shredding after the court rejects the efforts to stop the destruction. Now, Shasta County, California, they basically say they're going to destroy them by September the 30th. That's today. Because the ballots have a 22-month retention and that time frame is up.
[00:23:53] And so folks are now, according to the Shasta Scout, basically they're saying, hey, we need to protest this. These ballots, we believe there's some fraudulent stuff and they cannot schedule the destruction of these ballots while there's a contest over their legitimacy going on. So that battle's something hot we're keeping an eye on, too. And they say there's no election fraud anywhere, folks. Oh, yeah. Wow. All right. Thanks for being alongside for the ride. I'm Sam Bushman.
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