Radio Show Hour 1 – 10/30/2024

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[00:01:10] Welcome to the broadcast.

[00:01:11] Hope you're all doing absolutely fantastic.

[00:01:15] We've got so much to cover today and so little time.

[00:01:17] I'm just going to dig right in.

[00:01:19] Marcus Allen with me today.

[00:01:21] You say, who is Marcus Allen?

[00:01:23] He's an FBI whistleblower, ladies and gentlemen, that stood tall on the sacred constitution,

[00:01:28] stood tall for the checks and balances, stood tall for honesty and integrity.

[00:01:32] After all, honesty is the issue.

[00:01:36] Well, they beat him up pretty good.

[00:01:38] But good, honest people stood with Marcus Allen and he won.

[00:01:43] Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:01:45] This is a story of when good, honest people stand up.

[00:01:47] Great things happen.

[00:01:49] There's a group called Empower.us.

[00:01:53] And I'm going to spell it.

[00:01:55] It's E-M-P-O-W-R.

[00:01:58] So there's no E.

[00:01:59] Empower.us.

[00:02:03] And they've worked with him and done a phenomenal job in getting to the truth.

[00:02:08] Marcus, welcome to Liberty Roundtable Live, sir.

[00:02:11] Well, thank you for having me on this morning and God bless you all.

[00:02:13] Well, okay, so I want to hear your story a little bit from the beginning first.

[00:02:18] So tell me about who you are.

[00:02:20] You're kind of growing up, how you got into the FBI in the first place.

[00:02:23] Give me kind of a thumbnail.

[00:02:24] I don't want to take forever, but I do.

[00:02:25] I want people to understand who you are because really your fight comes from who you are inside, right?

[00:02:31] Right.

[00:02:32] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:02:32] So I'm from central Louisiana.

[00:02:34] Originally moved to Houston, Texas when I was still a young kid.

[00:02:39] Grew up there.

[00:02:40] Grew up through the Catholic school system.

[00:02:44] Very faithful to God.

[00:02:45] Very patriotic.

[00:02:47] And I joined the Marine Corps out of high school.

[00:02:49] Got into intelligence working in the Marine Corps.

[00:02:52] Really enjoyed that.

[00:02:53] Deployed to Iraq twice.

[00:02:56] Did order of battle.

[00:02:58] And then after that, I did counterterrorism, counterinsurgency type work.

[00:03:02] And then from that, I parlayed that into a job career in the intelligence community for the federal government.

[00:03:09] Worked as a contractor for a number of companies.

[00:03:12] And then I eventually made my way to the FBI as an intel specialist for them after several years.

[00:03:19] And my draw to the FBI was I really enjoyed working counterterrorism in the Marine Corps.

[00:03:25] And I figured if I wanted to do that on American soil,

[00:03:28] then the organization that had the charter to do that was the FBI.

[00:03:32] So I needed to figure out a way how to get to the FBI, which I did after several years.

[00:03:37] And I ultimately ended up working for the Bureau in an intel capacity for about eight years.

[00:03:43] Two years as a contractor and then six years as an official onboard employee.

[00:03:47] I have a little bit of experience working at the Hoover Building up in D.C., a couple of off sites up there.

[00:03:54] And then I ultimately found myself down at the Charlotte field office, which is where I was working before I got canceled and embarked on this three year back and forth battle with the federal government over the covid vaccine.

[00:04:08] And also the January 6th Capitol riot.

[00:04:13] All right.

[00:04:13] So kind of catch me up then, because when you think military, when you think intelligence, you think of spies and espionage and guns and warfare.

[00:04:21] And give me kind of an idea.

[00:04:23] Is your experience and job in weapons and in spies and that kind of stuff?

[00:04:27] Or is it more in data integrity?

[00:04:29] I mean, give me kind of an understanding.

[00:04:31] Yeah.

[00:04:31] So I guess you could say I would be known as an all source intelligence analyst.

[00:04:36] So I'm taking in data from OSINT, that's open source information.

[00:04:40] So it could be publicly available sources.

[00:04:43] Could be news sites.

[00:04:44] Could be blogs.

[00:04:45] Could be think tanks, symposiums, conferences, university research centers, that sort of thing.

[00:04:52] And you're just taking in information from a myriad assortment of places and trying to make sense of it all.

[00:04:58] And the Marine Corps is kind of in a hybrid role.

[00:05:00] So they kind of attach us to units that are on the ground.

[00:05:03] But our main role is not to go kick in doors or anything like that.

[00:05:07] So we're out there getting shot at.

[00:05:09] But our main role is not to go and kick in doors, do raids and that sort of thing.

[00:05:13] What we do is we help out the guys who are going on the raids, basically putting together like the target packages, analysis on the different terrorists, who their henchmen are, who their supply is, that sort of thing.

[00:05:27] So you take in all the raw data and then you make sense of it and put it together in documents that people can interpret and take action with.

[00:05:34] Correct.

[00:05:35] Absolutely.

[00:05:36] So you loved America.

[00:05:38] You grew up in the United States.

[00:05:40] You're an American citizen.

[00:05:40] You say, hey, you know what?

[00:05:41] I want to serve my country.

[00:05:43] You go into the military.

[00:05:43] You think it's all great.

[00:05:45] You go to the FBI and the intelligence committee.

[00:05:47] You do a great job for a long time.

[00:05:49] How did all of a sudden things start to go south?

[00:05:52] Yeah, so things started to go south, I would say, late 2021 time frame.

[00:06:00] They had a COVID vaccine mandate that was implemented for all federal employees.

[00:06:06] And I fundamentally thought it was unjust.

[00:06:09] And I communicated that to my supervisors several times.

[00:06:12] Can I stop you there for a minute because I want to really make this clear.

[00:06:14] When you say you thought it was unjust, let's talk about your upbringing a little bit.

[00:06:18] And that's why I started there because I think this underpins who you are as an American, who you are as a son of Almighty God.

[00:06:25] It's your Catholic school education.

[00:06:26] By the way, Catholic schools are some of the best in the world.

[00:06:29] But it's your Catholic school training.

[00:06:31] It's your parents.

[00:06:33] It's your family.

[00:06:34] It's your beliefs.

[00:06:34] It's your – all that is kind of what fundamentally made you say, this isn't for me.

[00:06:40] This isn't the choice that I believe in, right?

[00:06:42] Correct.

[00:06:43] Yeah, I didn't fundamentally believe that you should have – you should be forced to take something that you disagree with, especially in light of all the information that was coming out about the vaccines.

[00:06:52] I'd seen stuff from a former Pfizer vice president named Michael Yeadon who was essentially, you know, all intents and purposes telling people to run away from the vaccines that they weren't –

[00:07:04] Now, remember, this is an information-gathering guy for a living, people.

[00:07:07] Yeah.

[00:07:08] Just be clear about that.

[00:07:09] Go ahead, sir.

[00:07:09] Yeah, so I saw the former Pfizer VP saying that the vaccines were bad news bears and that they weren't what they were being sold as.

[00:07:19] I saw some work from, I think, Stella Emanuel, some other work from Pierre Corey.

[00:07:25] Yeah, Dr. Stella Emanuel, just so people know.

[00:07:27] Yep, Dr. Stella Emanuel, Dr. Pierre Corey, Dr. Michael Yeadon.

[00:07:32] Who, by the way, I saw that he testified before Congress and laid that out very succinctly, I might add.

[00:07:37] Yeah, beat up hardcore for it too, but go ahead.

[00:07:40] Absolutely, he did.

[00:07:41] All these people, you know, they got sacrificed on the pier, so to speak, for taking a hard stance on what these vaccines were all about.

[00:07:49] So I reasoned that these professionals who, you know, looked like they were pretty seasoned, pretty accomplished professionals,

[00:07:57] wouldn't be putting their reputations and their names on the line if they didn't believe in what they were talking about.

[00:08:03] So I looked into it.

[00:08:04] Yeah, because they virtually lost everything for the most part.

[00:08:06] Correct.

[00:08:06] And so I pretty much took a hard stance after that.

[00:08:10] And then from the Catholic Church, there was a Bishop Athanasius Schneider who took a pretty hard stance.

[00:08:17] I think Crisis Magazine had published an article from him, late 2020 timeframe.

[00:08:23] And he basically said the ends cannot justify the means because a lot of the vaccines have, I think it's HEK293.

[00:08:31] There's like an aborted fetus cell line.

[00:08:33] Yeah, other than that, you know.

[00:08:35] That goes into the.

[00:08:36] What on earth?

[00:08:37] Yeah, that goes into the development of the vaccines.

[00:08:39] And so I was like, in good conscience, I can't go along with this.

[00:08:43] Yeah, because I'm a pro-life Catholic, right?

[00:08:45] Right.

[00:08:45] Correct.

[00:08:46] Correct.

[00:08:46] So there were a number of things that went into my decision-making process, and I communicated that to my supervisor.

[00:08:52] Now, just a little bit of an in-your-face for Kamala Harris for a second because she literally went on that clown lady show, you know, Call Her Daddy.

[00:08:59] And she literally said she doesn't know of anything where a man gets his body violated by force.

[00:09:06] And I submit to you, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Marcus Allen, who was forced to take the vax or lose everything.

[00:09:15] Right.

[00:09:16] Put that as Exhibit 1 Kamala, right?

[00:09:19] Correct.

[00:09:20] Correct.

[00:09:20] Absolutely.

[00:09:21] So I took this principled stance, and the deadline was Thanksgiving week of 2021.

[00:09:29] On top of that, they also had an internal database that had a bunch of lawyer-type language attached to it, which essentially said you need to put your information into this database to update your vaccination status.

[00:09:44] And, oh, by the way, if you got the vaccine and had an adverse reaction or some other negative outcome, you didn't really have any legal recourse against the organization on the back end.

[00:09:56] So you're being forced to take this thing.

[00:09:58] And you should not really report that either, by the way.

[00:10:00] You know, just kind of leave that out.

[00:10:01] We'll take care of you somehow, some way.

[00:10:03] No promises.

[00:10:04] But you get the picture, right?

[00:10:06] Isn't that kind of the inference?

[00:10:07] Right, right.

[00:10:08] And so I see all that, and I'm like, okay, they're trying to essentially run a pressure campaign to get people to take these shots.

[00:10:16] And then they also want to be legally free on the back end if there's negative outcomes.

[00:10:21] So just the whole thing smelled bad to me.

[00:10:25] So the deadline came.

[00:10:27] My supervisors were surprised and shocked that I didn't go along with it.

[00:10:32] And essentially from that point is when the canceling started up.

[00:10:37] There was kind of an interrogatory process that went back and forth where I had to state my reasons for not going along with the federal mandate.

[00:10:44] And that back and forth lasted through Christmas.

[00:10:48] Did you say God, family, country, gentlemen?

[00:10:49] Pretty much.

[00:10:50] Pretty much was the gist of it.

[00:10:53] And they were surprised.

[00:10:55] Internally, there had been an email that had gone out from headquarters which essentially said if you hadn't complied by the mandate program by that point, then you weren't welcome on FBI property.

[00:11:08] Right.

[00:11:09] Now let me stop you there and understand then.

[00:11:11] This was when, when Joe Biden was in control?

[00:11:13] Yes, absolutely.

[00:11:15] So when President Trump, when President Trump was in, it wasn't mandated.

[00:11:19] But after President Biden took control, I believe it was February timeframe of 2021.

[00:11:25] It was either February or March that they instituted the mandate where federal employees had to comply by the program.

[00:11:33] If that doesn't make it clear, Isabel, what's going on in America today, ladies and gentlemen, I don't know what does.

[00:11:39] Just look at that contrast to make the point.

[00:11:40] Continue, sir.

[00:11:42] Yep.

[00:11:42] So I started back and forth process.

[00:11:46] My supervisory chain, they receive, you know, my statements.

[00:11:50] And then there's also a headquarters unit that I'm working with in the process.

[00:11:54] And my chain of command here, they communicated to me that they wanted to have a meeting.

[00:12:02] This is January 2022 timeframe.

[00:12:04] And I'm thinking that the meeting is going to be about the vaccine, vaccine mandate, what kind of a workaround we're going to try to come up with in order for me to continue work there.

[00:12:15] In other words, conscientious objection, religious reasons.

[00:12:19] What can we put together?

[00:12:20] Right.

[00:12:21] Right.

[00:12:21] That's what I'm thinking the meeting is going to be about.

[00:12:23] So we decided to meet in an offsite location.

[00:12:26] And I show up and my immediate supervisor who had organized the meeting, he doesn't show up.

[00:12:33] But one of our assistant special agents in charge, which is like the top one of the top three agents in a field office.

[00:12:42] He shows up along with the office's chief security officer, and they proceed to read off a letter from headquarters, which essentially says you're being suspended from the FBI for conspiratorial views in regards to the January 6th Capitol riot.

[00:12:59] Your allegiance to the country is in question.

[00:13:02] Thereby, we are suspending your security clearance indefinitely, and you're being suspended without pay until further notice.

[00:13:10] Hold on now.

[00:13:11] This is a total sideswipe.

[00:13:13] Did you even go to January 6th?

[00:13:15] Nope.

[00:13:16] I absolutely did not.

[00:13:18] So that came out of left field.

[00:13:20] And what that pertains to is there was an email that I had sent at the end of September of 2021 in regards to the January 6th Capitol riot.

[00:13:30] So let me understand that we're talking about seven months after or whatever, right?

[00:13:33] Eight months after.

[00:13:34] Correct.

[00:13:34] Correct.

[00:13:35] Yep.

[00:13:35] Keep going.

[00:13:35] I sent it.

[00:13:36] This is as crazy to you as it is to us on the radio at the time.

[00:13:41] Yeah.

[00:13:41] The reason I'm doing this.

[00:13:42] Go ahead.

[00:13:42] Correct.

[00:13:43] Yep.

[00:13:43] So I had sent an email at the end of September in 2021 essentially questioning the official narrative of January 6th, saying that based on publicly available information, open source information, there was a very different story as to what transpired on January 6th.

[00:14:00] And that warranted our attention intelligence gatherer, ladies and gentlemen, for a living who had credibility for eight years before all this starts going down.

[00:14:07] Now they're kind of saying he's off his rock.

[00:14:09] He's crazy.

[00:14:10] He's dangerous to the country.

[00:14:11] Right.

[00:14:12] On earth.

[00:14:13] Right.

[00:14:14] You express your opinion that from your intelligence gathering, you believe there's more to this story.

[00:14:20] Right.

[00:14:21] Correct.

[00:14:21] Yep.

[00:14:21] And then I also called into question the forthrightness of Director Ray's testimony on Capitol Hill several months before.

[00:14:30] There was a piece done by Darren Beatty from Revolver News that highlighted some New York Times reporting where essentially –

[00:14:38] We played sound bites from it and everything else back in the day, but go ahead.

[00:14:41] Yep.

[00:14:42] Yep.

[00:14:42] Absolutely.

[00:14:43] And so essentially this New York Times article, the reporters are saying that there were a couple of – I believe it was Proud Boy informants who were reporting back to their FBI handlers as they were on the way to the Capitol.

[00:14:54] And the problem with that was as Director Ray's testimony was not exactly forthright about the involvement of FBI assets on Capitol grounds on January 6th.

[00:15:05] In fact, the exchange that he had with, I believe, Senator Klobuchar kind of left it hanging out there as if we didn't have federal assets there that day on Capitol grounds.

[00:15:15] He didn't say that.

[00:15:15] He just led you to believe that.

[00:15:18] Correct.

[00:15:18] Correct.

[00:15:19] Absolutely.

[00:15:20] Yep.

[00:15:20] And so that's what I called into question on top of some other reporting that was out there.

[00:15:26] And when that incident happened, that email, which was to my chain of command, I never ran to the media or anything.

[00:15:34] The only reason this is even in the media is because of, quite frankly, their reaction to what I did, which is completely over the top.

[00:15:43] We had a meeting about it, and it seemed like my chain of command was more interested in protecting the director than actually looking at the merits of what I put in the actual email.

[00:15:55] So I had a discussion with the chain of command about it, and at the time, they made it seem like there was no problem there.

[00:16:03] They understood my point of view.

[00:16:05] They understood that I was an intel analyst providing a different perspective, and they appreciated my point of view and for having the discussion and sitting down with them.

[00:16:15] So I thought at that point that was all said and done.

[00:16:19] So let me stop you there, and I'm going to tell you how this works in the media really quick because it relates here.

[00:16:24] There's a term called the velvet hammer, and the velvet hammer means we bring you in as a talk show host, and we say, you know, Sam, you're an incredible talk show host, buddy.

[00:16:33] You're just – man, there's future for you here.

[00:16:36] You're doing incredible.

[00:16:39] We need you to kind of soft pedal this or don't touch this subject or it offends an advertiser if you – so you need to be careful.

[00:16:46] But I'm just telling you there's raises in your future.

[00:16:48] Things are looking good.

[00:16:49] We can be working on a book deal.

[00:16:51] I mean, I can go on.

[00:16:51] But the point is they're really shutting you down, but they're making you feel like, you know what?

[00:16:56] It's all good.

[00:16:57] You're a rock star.

[00:16:57] Now, this is the same kind of a deal within the FBI kind of the velvet hammer.

[00:17:02] Marcus, there's no problem.

[00:17:03] You're a great analyst.

[00:17:04] You're just having a different view.

[00:17:05] We just got to make sure this is contained.

[00:17:08] We got to make sure that it doesn't go off the reservation kind of a deal.

[00:17:11] I mean, that's really what happened, right?

[00:17:13] I mean, that was the general sense of it.

[00:17:15] It was kind of like, thanks for your opinion, but we don't want to hear about this anymore.

[00:17:20] And that kind of – you know, that was kind of explicit from the meeting.

[00:17:24] So I was like, all right.

[00:17:25] Like, I've done my duty.

[00:17:27] I've informed you all.

[00:17:28] You'll have made no decision, you know, in regards to it or you're not going to do anything to it.

[00:17:34] Okay, that's the end of it, so to speak.

[00:17:37] And my supervisor, my direct supervisor told me he didn't have any issue with it, but the chief division counsel and I think one of the assistant special agents in charge kind of got in a fluster about it.

[00:17:49] And I don't know why, but that's why the meeting even ensued in the first place.

[00:17:54] And so from that point –

[00:17:55] Well, we just got to really find out where the pressure came from.

[00:17:57] And eventually we kind of find that out when we get the fact that you – well, when you won.

[00:18:04] We'll get to that coming up.

[00:18:06] But just so people understand, there's deep inside guidance for this stuff.

[00:18:11] Most of the people along the way in your chain of command were kind of held hostage by it as well, right?

[00:18:16] Right, correct.

[00:18:16] So apparently we found out through the discovery process in my case that it's – by all appearances, it seems like there was a directive from on high that if anyone had any problems with the January 6th investigation or how the FBI was proceeding forth, they could call the deputy director directly himself.

[00:18:38] Which according to – I believe the reporter in this case kind of sent a chilling effect across management within the bureau itself.

[00:18:48] They kind of took it as almost like a threat from the deputy director himself, Paula Bate, that nobody better have any problems with this investigation or they're going to have to talk directly to us.

[00:18:59] So that very much had an influence on management throughout the organization and how they handled personnel under them.

[00:19:08] Which I think people need to have a certain amount of fortitude.

[00:19:11] When it comes to justice, it's like threats can be levied, but at the same time you have to stand up and do the right thing even if it costs you at times.

[00:19:20] So did you call this director?

[00:19:23] I didn't call him up directly.

[00:19:25] I didn't find out about this until after I'd already been canceled from the organization.

[00:19:30] Isn't that interesting, ladies and gentlemen?

[00:19:31] There's an opportunity to talk directly to the top.

[00:19:33] He was never given that opportunity.

[00:19:35] He finds out that was the edict later.

[00:19:37] I wanted to highlight that as a really important issue because that really kind of relates to at first you get canceled.

[00:19:43] You don't quite really understand why because you've got these couple of issues at hand, right?

[00:19:48] Right, correct.

[00:19:49] So I guess for them, and in discovery we also found out, I guess in October in my management chain, they didn't think there were any issues.

[00:20:00] But then once they found out I also wasn't going along with the COVID-19 program, that's when they decided to escalate it a bit.

[00:20:09] So it was actually my local chain of command who sent it to a headquarters unit that was looking at insider threats, like an insider threat assessment unit.

[00:20:18] And by appearance, it seems like the two data points that they were concerned with were my viewpoint as regards to January 6th and there being an alternate narrative highlighting government involvement in the events that unfolded that day.

[00:20:35] And the other data point was my hesitancy in regards to the COVID-19 program.

[00:20:40] So that appears to be the two criteria points that was enough for my local chain of command to elevate a complaint to the insider threat office.

[00:20:50] And the question comes, did the locals do that because they really felt like there was a threat in Marcus relating to these two issues?

[00:20:57] Or do they do it because there was guidance elsewhere telling them they had to?

[00:21:01] Or do they do it because it's a CYA discussion at that point for them?

[00:21:04] Do you understand the underpinnings of that?

[00:21:06] Yep.

[00:21:07] I think my opinion on that is I think it was a CYA thing because some agent friends of mine that had gone to meetings I didn't have access to were essentially coming back,

[00:21:19] complaining and in the meetings like management and the chief division council were essentially giving them the basic message of keep your head down.

[00:21:28] Don't say anything.

[00:21:29] Stay off the radar.

[00:21:30] You don't want any headquarters attention.

[00:21:33] So based off of that information I got from former colleagues, I think for my management was a CYA situation.

[00:21:40] And they basically were just offering me up on the funeral pyre like, look, you know, here's our sacrificial lamb.

[00:21:46] We're willing to cooperate.

[00:21:47] This guy's already sold himself down the river.

[00:21:49] We can't really help him at this point.

[00:21:51] We're so sorry.

[00:21:51] I think it sucks, but whatever.

[00:21:53] There's nothing we can do about it kind of mentality.

[00:21:56] Interestingly enough, three of the officials in my office from the management team, they all ended up in higher level positions within the bureau after I disappeared.

[00:22:09] After I disappeared, all three of them got promotions.

[00:22:13] One was already in the senior executive service and the other two who weren't in the senior executive service got promotions to the senior executive service.

[00:22:22] Were these people your friends before this?

[00:22:24] Do you feel betrayed on that part?

[00:22:28] I would say I'd feel betrayed a little bit, but I have this proneness to, I guess, give pretty apt assessments of people.

[00:22:38] And I'm kind of self-critical sometimes.

[00:22:40] Sometimes I do a lot of recollection and reflection where, okay, maybe I'm being too scrutinizing.

[00:22:45] Maybe I'm being too scrupulous about that.

[00:22:48] I'll give people the benefit of the doubt.

[00:22:50] But in hindsight, looking back, the way I was treated, I'm like, no, I wasn't being scrupulous or scrutinizing at all.

[00:22:56] These people are who I thought they were, kind of like the old Denny Green Monday night thing with the Cardinals and the Bears.

[00:23:03] It's like they are who I thought they were.

[00:23:05] And it's like, okay, I wasn't too far off.

[00:23:08] It kind of sucks to say, but a lot of FBI people, they just naturally take the path of least resistance, and then they're looking at the role as like an ego feed.

[00:23:21] So anything that can be done to advance their own personal careers or for their own personal career fulfillment, that's what's going to be driving them more so than any kind of idea of truth, justice, righteousness.

[00:23:34] And they've been really drumming out people who critically think.

[00:23:36] Like, as an individual promoting God, family, country, protecting life, liberty, and property, and the principles of the supreme law of the land, they're kind of rooting those people out.

[00:23:45] And the people who are critical thinkers, very intelligent, but they'll go along or they'll not question or they'll, hey, this is kind of military idea.

[00:23:52] I know the FBI is not the military, but I'm just saying that mentality of, listen, how dare you cross your supervisors?

[00:23:57] Those are the kind of people that are starting to get elevated in the ranks, if you will.

[00:24:02] Ladies and gentlemen, we're talking to Marcus Allen.

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[00:30:24] Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:30:26] We're talking about political payback.

[00:30:27] Back with you live, we're talking about abuse.

[00:30:30] We're talking about the fact that your government is out of control, at least at the FBI level.

[00:30:34] That's for sure.

[00:30:35] Are there good people in the ranks?

[00:30:36] Yes, there are.

[00:30:38] Are there bad people?

[00:30:39] Without a doubt, press release new evidence of FBI using, quote, security clearances as retaliation.

[00:30:48] They did that to our guest, Marcus Allen, ladies and gentlemen, FBI whistleblower.

[00:30:53] He wins settlement from agency, including restoration of his security clearance and a whole lot more.

[00:31:01] Got back pay and everything else.

[00:31:03] Got vindicated before the government at every turn.

[00:31:06] In the end of the day, though, he resigned from the FBI.

[00:31:09] And we'll get into that, too, before the end of the hour.

[00:31:11] But for now, so you basically got betrayed by your colleagues there.

[00:31:16] You got, what, suspended?

[00:31:18] Is that how it started?

[00:31:19] Yep.

[00:31:20] I got suspended indefinitely starting in January of 2022.

[00:31:27] But my initial attorneys that I signed up with, Big Lee Ranish, who are clearance attorneys, that was their specialty.

[00:31:34] They advised, because I was a veteran, that they had to at least pay me for another 30 days before they enacted the suspension.

[00:31:42] So it was kind of odd because they had essentially suspended my pay from the end of November 2021 while we were haggling over the COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

[00:31:56] And then for the month of February 2022, because of my attorneys, they turned my pay back on for 30 days.

[00:32:03] And then they turned it back off again in March of 2022 and essentially reissued a suspension letter.

[00:32:11] So the suspension letter that ultimately that was haggled over for the past two-plus years dates from March of 2022, even though our beef started Thanksgiving week of 2021.

[00:32:25] Happy Thanksgiving, Marcus, from your government.

[00:32:28] Exactly.

[00:32:29] Wow.

[00:32:30] All right.

[00:32:31] Yeah.

[00:32:31] So as we look at this, then they suspended you.

[00:32:35] And what was the real claim for the suspension?

[00:32:37] Was it the two issues that you're pointing to or did they have some excuse?

[00:32:40] Yeah.

[00:32:41] In the suspension letter, they questioned my allegiance to the United States of America.

[00:32:45] And it was based on –

[00:32:46] You want to stop there for a second, though?

[00:32:48] Yeah.

[00:32:48] Is there any evidence of that whatsoever?

[00:32:50] In fact, I would say your allegiance to America caused you to do what you did, right?

[00:32:55] Right.

[00:32:55] Correct.

[00:32:56] Yeah.

[00:32:56] I did have the thought throughout the process like the only way this makes any sense is if these people are either communists or have a communist ideology because it just didn't make any sense to me at all unless you were coming from a communist mindset.

[00:33:12] So I was just kind of struck by the thing, and especially because it said they were questioning my allegiance to the United States because of my conspiratorial views in regards to January 6th.

[00:33:24] And I don't think if you're an information gatherer and you lay it all out in an email of the concerns you have and why and the incongruencies, I don't see how that's opinion or views.

[00:33:32] I think that's just doubling down facts on more to the story than is released to the media and or through congressional testimony, right?

[00:33:40] Correct.

[00:33:41] Right.

[00:33:41] Yeah.

[00:33:42] I mean it was all publicly available information, so – and then I'm an intel analyst, so it makes sense that I would be sharing the information.

[00:33:48] And specifically I was an intel analyst for the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which worked both international terrorism matters and domestic terrorism matters.

[00:33:57] So the Capitol riot fell under our purview.

[00:34:01] So it made total sense for me to be commenting on it and to essentially be executing a function of my job, and then I'm canceled essentially for doing a function of my job, which is like completely bizarre.

[00:34:16] All right, so I want to fast forward now a little bit then and say what kind of culminated to happen?

[00:34:20] Empower got a hold of you or you got a hold of them, or how did your attorneys parlay into people to really dig into this with expertise to get whistleblowers the defense and the protection and the justice they deserve?

[00:34:32] Yeah, so we kind of – I kind of eventually got to the point where I – my attorneys reached out to Empower because they were whistleblower specialty attorneys.

[00:34:44] And initially, Bigley Ranish, they looked at what was happening, and in their experience, they decided they're just going to try to bleed you out, man.

[00:34:52] Like they're just going to use this administrative process to bleed you out.

[00:34:56] Yes, they are.

[00:34:57] And he said it's going to be at least a year before you could have any kind of a whistleblower retaliation claim.

[00:35:05] So they knew that from the get-go.

[00:35:06] So they kind of told me up front like, hey, this is going to kind of be a long haul if you want to stand in for the fight, which I was going to based on principle, conviction from the Holy Spirit through prayer.

[00:35:19] I knew this was the right thing to do.

[00:35:21] And we didn't get any traction in our case until my original attorneys, we decided to go to Congress, and we reached out to personnel from Jim Jordan's office.

[00:35:32] And they had a press conference, and interestingly enough, the same day that Jim Jordan had this press conference in early May of 2022, the same day my attorneys at the time got a phone call from the Bureau kind of like, oh, we'd like to talk to you now.

[00:35:48] You know, it's like, oh, gee, I wonder why you want to talk to us now.

[00:35:51] Yeah, sure you would.

[00:35:53] So I went and talked to them, and then that process kind of stalled, and it was just quiet for six months.

[00:36:02] And Bigley Ranish eventually said they're just going to try to bleed you out, and to their credit, they didn't want to drain my bank account with attorney's fees.

[00:36:10] So they're like, we're going to try to find an advocacy group to take up your cause, which eventually they were able to get judicial watch.

[00:36:16] So they did you right 100% all the way through?

[00:36:19] Yeah, yeah.

[00:36:19] Bigley Ranish, they're absolutely solid.

[00:36:22] They're not in business anymore, but the attorneys there –

[00:36:27] What a sad tale.

[00:36:27] We need more of them in business.

[00:36:28] I'll tell you that right now.

[00:36:29] Yeah, they were – I told them they were saints.

[00:36:32] So Sean and Jeff and their whole team there at Bigley Ranish, they're in my prayers forever, and they did a really solid job.

[00:36:40] And they were able to get judicial watch on board for us, and judicial watch actually sued the FBI on my behalf in December of 2022 for viewpoint discrimination.

[00:36:53] And that really got the tires – that kicked the tires and really got things going because now the bureau had to deal with the court system in order for the case to move along.

[00:37:04] And so I was with judicial watch for several months, and the team there was very good, and they eventually reached out to Empower Oversight because we think you have a legit whistleblower playing here.

[00:37:16] That's Tom Fittman crew, right?

[00:37:17] Yep, that's Tom Fittman crew.

[00:37:20] And so the attorney there, Jim, was fantastic.

[00:37:24] The whole team there was really fantastic, helped us out quite a bit, and they got in contact with Empower on my behalf.

[00:37:30] And I talked to the Empower guys, Tristan Levitt and Jason Foster, really squared away.

[00:37:37] By the way, they worked with Jason Chapin, you talked quite a bit too, and everything else.

[00:37:41] Good people doing some good work over there, but go ahead.

[00:37:43] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:37:45] Yeah, Jason and Tristan are both top flight, and the team they have is – they're awesome people.

[00:37:50] And they actually filed a whistleblower complaint on my behalf in April of 2023.

[00:37:57] And I guess that really stepped on the Bureau's toes because within two weeks of us filing the whistleblower complaint with the inspector general, all of a sudden the Bureau decided to terminate my clearance.

[00:38:11] So they couldn't make a decision for about a year plus, and then all of a sudden I filed a complaint against them, and oh, now they can terminate my clearance.

[00:38:22] And then we obviously – we rebutted that.

[00:38:24] We fought against that.

[00:38:25] They're hoping each step of the way shuts you down is what they're hoping.

[00:38:29] We'll go this far.

[00:38:30] And every time it doesn't, they up the ante in hopes that it will.

[00:38:34] At some point, though, the truth comes out to the point where they cannot hold on anymore because of the expertise of your first attorneys knowing, hey, they're going to bleed you dry.

[00:38:43] Let's get better help, more people, then going to Tom Fitton, those guys who are great at the FOIA, great at the details of forcing information onto the docket and information out in the open.

[00:38:53] And so every step of the way, God's guiding your hands in this, right?

[00:38:57] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:38:59] I'm getting signal graces throughout this whole time.

[00:39:02] I have – you know, I pray the rosary.

[00:39:04] I go to mass.

[00:39:05] I have a devotional chaplet to the Holy Spirit.

[00:39:09] Dates back to the 1800s that I pray pretty much every day.

[00:39:14] And so I'm getting signal graces and, you know, promptings from the Holy Spirit throughout this time of kind of the direction to go.

[00:39:23] Of course, you use discernment and, you know, talk to my wife in decision making.

[00:39:27] But God's with us this whole journey kind of pushing us in the right direction of what to do, which way to go, how much to suffer, you know, bear the cross, that sort of thing.

[00:39:38] Yes, sir.

[00:39:39] How is your wife dealing with in this whole thing?

[00:39:41] How is she kind of – is she saying, go, Marcus, let's do this?

[00:39:44] Or is she going, Marcus, come on, let's – what is her thoughts along the way?

[00:39:47] She was completely – she was 100 percent supportive the whole way.

[00:39:50] She worked for the Bureau for like 20 years in an intel role.

[00:39:54] She hasn't worked for them in a number of years.

[00:39:57] And her dad, may he rest in peace, he was a special agent from I want to say 1971 through like 1998.

[00:40:05] Wow, okay.

[00:40:06] And he is old school, very hard worker.

[00:40:10] You know, my wife told me multiple times, you know, I wish he was here, but I'm glad he's already passed away because this would be killing him right now to watch what the Bureau is doing.

[00:40:18] Yeah, to break his heart to know the FBI has turned on the very people he thought it was just a badge of honor to protect, right?

[00:40:24] Right, absolutely.

[00:40:25] So she's been 100 percent supportive throughout the way, and that's something that we talk about too.

[00:40:32] Go ahead and skip the break, and God bless Mrs. Allen as this thing unfolds because, man, it's not for the faint-hearted, is it, Marcus?

[00:40:37] No, it absolutely isn't.

[00:40:39] Nope.

[00:40:41] Go ahead and skip the break, Liz.

[00:40:45] Go ahead, sir.

[00:40:46] Okay, yeah, so she's been a rock star throughout this whole thing.

[00:40:50] And that's something that we've talked about too because, you know, one of the things that gets in her craw is like how many other guys that you worked with were their wives controlling them or telling them don't stand up and do the right thing?

[00:41:03] Because I had colleagues there at work who agreed with me, but they would only talk to me like in the hallways or in the stairwell or on the way out to the parking garage.

[00:41:12] They wouldn't speak up on, you know, conference calls or meetings or anything like that.

[00:41:17] I would almost be kind of like this lone ranger.

[00:41:19] I think there was one random – one other random soul out like Tennessee or somewhere like that who would also speak up on these large conference calls.

[00:41:27] But other than that, no one spoke up.

[00:41:30] But as soon as the calls were done, people would come up to me in the hallway or in break rooms, you know, where there wasn't that much traffic.

[00:41:37] Hey, man, thanks for speaking up.

[00:41:39] I agree with what you're doing.

[00:41:40] And I'm like, why didn't she say anything?

[00:41:42] Oh, no, I can't do that, man.

[00:41:43] Like I got to keep – yeah, I got the wife, got the paycheck.

[00:41:46] You know what I'm saying, Marcus.

[00:41:48] Come on now.

[00:41:50] So I'm like, you know, if more people would have stood up together and spoken out, like maybe some of this corruption could have been thwarted, you know, before all this has played out the way it's played out.

[00:42:03] So Judicial Watch has been awesome.

[00:42:05] Empower has been awesome.

[00:42:07] We had the hearing in May of 2023, which was like a bombshell.

[00:42:11] New York Times did a hit piece on me and I believe Steve Friend, maybe a couple of other whistleblowers.

[00:42:18] But I definitely know I was prominently featured there as well as Steve and other whistleblowers.

[00:42:25] And, you know, New York Times ended up having to eat crow.

[00:42:28] So they issued a retraction almost a year later I think.

[00:42:32] But essentially they colluded with – the allegation is they colluded with the Dems and somebody from the FBI in order to try to come up with dirt to smear us with before the hearing.

[00:42:47] Is this Joe?

[00:42:50] Who is responsible?

[00:42:51] Is it Christopher Wray?

[00:42:52] Is it Joe Biden?

[00:42:53] I mean who really is kind of at home with all this?

[00:42:56] This doesn't just organically happen, right?

[00:42:57] No.

[00:42:58] Obviously they're the executives at the top of the heap, so they've got to be okay with it to a certain extent.

[00:43:05] But, yeah, this literally happens the evening before our testimony.

[00:43:11] So on May 17th is when the hit piece came out and we were testifying on May 18th.

[00:43:16] And then they even had a charade going where I think it's likely some staffers from the Dem side created a Twitter account for me and were posting – I can't even remember what they posted.

[00:43:30] But, you know, it got my attorneys in a flux at the time and I just told them I'm a lurker for the most part on social media.

[00:43:37] Like I don't post.

[00:43:38] I don't put anything inflammatory out there or anything.

[00:43:42] And so that turned into an exchange between myself and a representative, Sanchez, from California.

[00:43:48] It was a nutcase in and of itself.

[00:43:51] Anyway, so let me ask you this then.

[00:43:52] As this continued then, are we going to have heads roll?

[00:43:55] It's one thing for you to get back pay.

[00:43:57] It's another thing for you to be entirely vindicated.

[00:43:59] It's another thing for them to restore your clearance.

[00:44:01] So basically you won.

[00:44:03] Jim Jordan said, hey, this is great.

[00:44:07] Empower Oversight President Tristan Levitt called it a total vindication.

[00:44:11] I appreciate all that and I get it.

[00:44:13] And I support it.

[00:44:14] I'm grateful for that.

[00:44:15] Don't get me wrong.

[00:44:16] But here's my question.

[00:44:17] Are heads going to roll?

[00:44:18] Is somebody going to go to prison for this absolute government-embedded hatred towards the country and abusiveness towards you and everything else, right?

[00:44:30] I mean at some point, unless there's going to be some serious accountability to say no, this cannot happen.

[00:44:35] I mean it's just a blip, right?

[00:44:37] They don't care.

[00:44:37] Right, right.

[00:44:38] They don't care.

[00:44:39] Until someone's held accountable, until there's actual justice, which has demands, which means people have to answer for their crimes, which I think in my case and several other cases, the behavior wasn't just, oh, we made some mistakes and some missteps.

[00:44:54] Like I think my opinion that a lot of the conduct has been criminal, which means there should be criminal.

[00:45:00] It was figuratively put Alan in the crosshairs.

[00:45:01] Shut him down at all costs.

[00:45:04] Right.

[00:45:04] So I think there needs to be something punitive.

[00:45:06] I think it's dependent on if Donald gets into office.

[00:45:12] It all depends on who's sitting in the White House come the end of next January.

[00:45:18] If it's Team Blue, then nothing is going to happen.

[00:45:22] If it's Donald and his administration, then it's likely –

[00:45:25] Well, if it's Team Blue, they might come back and try to retry you and start all over again.

[00:45:28] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:45:30] Absolutely.

[00:45:30] Not that I want that.

[00:45:31] I'm just saying that's been their pattern.

[00:45:33] No.

[00:45:33] No, that's a reality.

[00:45:35] Absolutely.

[00:45:36] I almost fully expect that to be honest with you because their behavior has been so over the top and frankly communistic that I'm just like they're just going to go after anybody who is a dissident, which is already proven by the people they've jailed like Steve Bannon or Peter Navarro.

[00:45:53] The Ricky Vaughn case over free speech, that was a terrible case.

[00:45:58] So, I mean, the writing on the wall is not good.

[00:46:01] He got released yesterday morning, and he's coming out of the gate on fire for Donald Trump and for showing how abusive this really is.

[00:46:10] You never had to go to jail though, right?

[00:46:12] No, no.

[00:46:14] Yeah, I've essentially been on house arrest.

[00:46:17] Not literal house arrest, but just suspended indefinitely without pay for two-plus years.

[00:46:24] All right.

[00:46:24] How is this going to affect your life going forward?

[00:46:26] Is it going to be a blight on your ability to work and everything else?

[00:46:30] Because once the FBI or the government attacks you and says you're a bad guy terrorist, I mean, it's hard to get jobs.

[00:46:35] It's hard to – is it affecting you now?

[00:46:38] Yeah, it's definitely made things more difficult.

[00:46:42] I'm pretty much done with government service.

[00:46:45] Like my remarks at the last hearing, I meant that.

[00:46:49] God pretty much has signaled to me like I need you out of that place.

[00:46:53] There's not a good future here.

[00:46:55] So that portion of my life, that career is pretty much done.

[00:46:59] Like I'm pretty much done as far as intelligence work for the federal government is concerned.

[00:47:04] And I'm pretty solidified on that, and God's convicted me in that.

[00:47:09] So I've got to try to figure out what the next step is, what I'm going to do here moving forward.

[00:47:14] We have a little bit of a cushion, but I can't wait forever to try to figure out.

[00:47:19] Never enough.

[00:47:19] You're young, right?

[00:47:21] Yeah, I'm early 40s, so I got time.

[00:47:23] Yeah, so I'm not saying you're like way young, but I'm just saying for a career, you've still got a lot left is the point.

[00:47:28] Yeah, yeah, I can still go somewhere and do something for 20-plus years and be all right.

[00:47:34] It's just figuring out what exactly that's going to be because I've – essentially since I joined the Marine Corps, I've worked for the government in an intelligence role in some capacity that whole time.

[00:47:45] So it's kind of a new frontier.

[00:47:47] That was right after high school, right?

[00:47:48] I mean that's the first half of your whole career.

[00:47:50] Yeah, yeah, from age 18 through the beginning of this battle.

[00:47:55] So that's kind of like a deal.

[00:47:57] We're running out of time faster than I want to.

[00:47:59] I don't mean to interrupt, but I've got to move along because I've asked a lot of questions from me looking at this, researching it, understanding it, reading about it.

[00:48:07] The last line I have that I want to cover is this press release, new evidence of FBI using security clearances as retaliation.

[00:48:18] This is serious business, and this is why I say, look, unless we have accountability, this is just going to go on.

[00:48:22] So we had to pay Marcus a back pay.

[00:48:24] Who cares?

[00:48:25] Next, he's out of here now, and yeah, he looked really bad because the mainstream press beat him up good.

[00:48:30] On the back end, we had to admit we were wrong, but so what?

[00:48:33] Who cares?

[00:48:33] They're continuing in the same modality, right?

[00:48:36] Yeah, they're just going to keep going forward unless there's some kind of punitive check against them.

[00:48:41] I mean the executives involved in my case, nothing punitive happened to them.

[00:48:46] One guy got promoted to be the special agent in charge of the Miami field office, and in fact it was revealed through discovery.

[00:48:54] He thought I was delusional for seeking guidance from the Holy Spirit.

[00:49:01] Eyewitnesses gave testimony to that.

[00:49:04] Yeah, godless people think that.

[00:49:05] Yeah, so – and then I'm not sure what happened to Ms. Perkins, but I'm sure nothing punitive.

[00:49:12] So in their eyes, it's like, okay, we got a little bit of a speed bump, small smidgen of a black eye.

[00:49:19] Move on.

[00:49:20] I'm still getting paid.

[00:49:21] I'm still getting my pension.

[00:49:22] I still got my executive role within the organization.

[00:49:26] So to them, it's like whatever.

[00:49:27] And there's a rich target of plenty of other people to abuse there, so we're good to go.

[00:49:31] Right, exactly.

[00:49:32] I did an interview with a voter advocacy group called Catholics for Catholics.

[00:49:37] The YouTube video was taken down very quickly.

[00:49:41] Some noise was made to get it put back up in power oversight.

[00:49:47] Jason Foster, Tristan Levitt, and then Congressman Jordan actually issued a letter to YouTube asking them why they took the video down.

[00:49:56] Because Joe said so.

[00:49:58] Right, and then within 48 hours, the video was back up.

[00:50:02] But the point in all that is, like my case right now is somewhat prominent, and so they were able to get some kind of pressure to get the video back up.

[00:50:11] What about mom and pop?

[00:50:12] Yeah, so 98% of the moves are to shut you down, and then if it's fought back, they give in on most of things.

[00:50:17] But what happens – what people need to realize is they take down 100 videos, and one gets fought, and they put back up one but take down the 99.

[00:50:24] They're all good.

[00:50:25] They don't give a rip.

[00:50:26] Right, exactly, and so like what about somebody who doesn't have any notoriety right now?

[00:50:30] Their video is not going back up.

[00:50:33] So YouTube is known for that in recent history, and it doesn't look like they're going to stop that behavior either.

[00:50:41] Anytime soon unless Donald takes over, then we'll have to see.

[00:50:44] All right, two questions left before the end of the hour.

[00:50:46] I wish I had more time.

[00:50:48] The first question is this.

[00:50:49] Do you think we just need to flat out shut down the FBI?

[00:50:51] Is it so corrupt, it's just so criminal that there's no reform possible?

[00:50:56] My opinion on it is I've told friends is if – it's kind of like a mafia operation.

[00:51:04] Like if they run a great restaurant but they're doing a whole bunch of bad stuff on the back end, like when you go shut down that crime family, you shut everything down.

[00:51:13] So even if they had like a great restaurant out front, well, the restaurant goes too.

[00:51:18] Even if the restaurant workers there like weren't a part of the shenanigans that were going on off the back end, the whole place gets shut down.

[00:51:25] So I do think there's probably some good work that they're doing.

[00:51:28] I just think it can be wielded as too much of a – like frankly a weapon against the American people that like at least an operational pause so they can clean out all the rot needs to occur because my worry right now is too many people there are willing to work as functionaries and just do as they're told, which I constitute as a threat.

[00:51:49] I'm calling it a shutdown because it's unconstitutional anyway.

[00:51:52] Yeah, like so I mean I would be for a total shutdown of the place.

[00:51:57] Whether we have a political class with the stomach to actually execute on that is another thing.

[00:52:04] But I think personally the organization constitutes a threat to the people.

[00:52:09] All right.

[00:52:09] What have I overlooked in this whole interview that you just want the American people to know that we've got to get out?

[00:52:14] I've done my best to kind of pull out all the relevant stuff that relates and have the American people know where to look for guidance in the future and everything else.

[00:52:20] What have I overlooked, Marcus?

[00:52:22] I would just say to the American people like it's a government by the people for the people.

[00:52:28] So like the government is supposed to work on behalf of we the people, which means the people to a certain extent have to be involved.

[00:52:37] So I would say kind of like what happened in Western North Carolina, don't look for the government to solve your problems for you.

[00:52:44] Like you're going to have to come together as communities in order to provide for one another and to defend each other in like times of hardship.

[00:53:21] Clearances are the ones that are the watchmen on the tower to make sure that we take national security seriously.

[00:53:26] If you take all those good guys out really watching for things that really do care about their country, then what do you end up with is the problem.

[00:53:34] Empower.us.

[00:53:34] That's E-M-P-O-W-R.us is where you can learn more about their incredible press release, where they're using these clearances against people.

[00:53:42] Last question for you.

[00:53:43] I'm just Joe Blow, talk show host.

[00:53:46] But the Southern Poverty Law Center has reported to the FBI and to Congress, me saying I'm the nexus of hate and anti-government in America.

[00:53:52] Two years in a row it's gone on the congressional record.

[00:53:54] It's a flat out lie.

[00:53:55] How much do the American people need to worry about them being next, Marcus?

[00:54:01] I think it's a real threat.

[00:54:03] I wouldn't take it lightly.

[00:54:06] The best thing you can do is be prepared and be prepared in your communities and then just come to each other's mutual aid.

[00:54:14] If things go south and the government essentially starts targeting Americans for holding on to American ideals and beliefs.

[00:54:21] Marcus Allen, please keep me in the loop on things as they change and progress.

[00:54:25] We'll have you back on, sir.

[00:54:26] Yep.

[00:54:27] God bless you and your service in the military and your service in government and your stand for the proper role of constitutional limited government.

[00:54:36] Bless you and your family.

[00:54:37] Tell your wife we thank her for her valiant stand as well.

[00:54:40] Ladies and gentlemen, that's a wrap.

[00:54:42] Marcus Allen doing a phenomenal job.

[00:54:44] God save the republic.