Radio Show Hour 1 – 12/23/2024

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West.

[00:00:18] You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:01:17] Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.

[00:01:19] Sam Bushman live on your radio.

[00:01:22] Hard-hitting news the network refused to use, no doubt kicks off now.

[00:01:27] This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for December the 23rd in the year of our Lord 2024.

[00:01:33] This is our one of two of the goal always to protect life, liberty, and property, to promote God, family, and country.

[00:01:40] To do so on your radio and the traditions of our founding fathers.

[00:01:43] Yes, indeed.

[00:01:44] Ladies and gentlemen, we use the supreme law of the land, the constitution for the United States of America.

[00:01:48] That is our guide.

[00:01:50] And as you know, we reject revolution unless it's a Jesus revolution.

[00:01:53] Then we're in because we follow the Prince of Peace.

[00:01:56] Man, have we got a lot to cover today.

[00:01:58] They say it's, what do they call this thing?

[00:02:01] There's Christmas Eve, don't you know?

[00:02:03] There's, you know, Christmas on Wednesday, Christmas Eve, tomorrow night, Tuesday night.

[00:02:08] This is Monday night.

[00:02:09] They call it Adam Eve.

[00:02:11] It's kind of strange.

[00:02:13] I don't, you know, it's weird, right?

[00:02:16] Because Eve, yeah.

[00:02:19] It's Adam today and then Eve.

[00:02:21] And they just say that it's natural.

[00:02:23] And Adam and Eve produced eventually through generations the Savior.

[00:02:27] And so Joseph and Mary are kind of the modern reincarnation of that, bringing peace and repentance and stability and safety and kind of a new world.

[00:02:36] And it's kind of a weird deal.

[00:02:37] But there's a lot of Christians now not even holding their events on Christmas Eve anymore.

[00:02:42] They're saying that's time for the family.

[00:02:44] Let's let the church do Adam and Eve.

[00:02:46] Or Adam, whatever.

[00:02:48] Very, very strange.

[00:02:49] But interesting to say the least.

[00:02:51] Dr. Scott Bradley is with me, of course.

[00:02:54] freedomsrisingsun.com.

[00:02:56] He does his weekly Q&As on the Constitution every Thursday evening.

[00:03:00] Go ahead and go to the website to learn more and to sign up for that.

[00:03:05] freedomsrisingsun.com.

[00:03:06] And you can sign up and then watch the webinars every Thursday night.

[00:03:09] They're great content.

[00:03:11] And we'll be talking about those more as the broadcast unfolds.

[00:03:13] Dr. Bradley is usually with me on Mondays for the first hour.

[00:03:17] Fridays for both hours.

[00:03:19] But Lowell Nelson, our dear friend, who takes the second hour on Mondays, is out because he goes to Mexico and does humanitarian service and everything else for Christmas.

[00:03:28] And so he's not with us.

[00:03:29] But hopefully Dr. Bradley can stay the whole time today.

[00:03:31] We've got a guest coming up second hour.

[00:03:33] That's going to be great.

[00:03:34] It was a guest that was supposed to be with us last week.

[00:03:37] And then there was some health glitches and things couldn't work out due to family.

[00:03:41] His name is Mark Tapscott with the Epoch Times.

[00:03:44] We'll talk to him later in the broadcast.

[00:03:45] But for now, what do you think of this Adam stuff, Dr. Bradley?

[00:03:51] Well, it's the first I've ever heard of it.

[00:03:53] And it's an interesting concept.

[00:03:55] But before we get too deep into that, I just want to do a day of infamy thing for just a second.

[00:04:02] You can do with it as you please as we get through this thing.

[00:04:05] But today is a day of infamy, though.

[00:04:07] In spite of the Festivus and the Adam Eve, whatever thing that we're talking about here, I hate to kind of bring it up with that soothing, comforting, wonderful music you use as a lead in.

[00:04:20] But today is the...

[00:04:22] Well, remember when Bilbo Baggins had his 111th birthday and the whole Lord of the Rings thing, you know, all that, okay?

[00:04:34] Anyway, this is the 111th birthday of the Federal Reserve being signed by Woodrow Wilson, one of the greatest scoundrels that's ever occupied the office of president.

[00:04:47] He signed it the 23rd of December, 1913.

[00:04:53] And it's an outgrowth of a nefarious kind of scandalous, horrid thing that had been rolling for quite a while for the banking consortium to take control of the entire economy of the United States.

[00:05:10] You know, they passed the Aldrich Fieland Act in May of 1908.

[00:05:15] Of course, they had the Creature from Jekyll Island meeting that G. Edward Griffin wrote about in November of 1910.

[00:05:24] All the way, this was a huge rolling ball.

[00:05:29] And after they sent people out in 1910 to go, they went to Europe, major capitals of Europe, had a number of hearings there in Europe.

[00:05:41] They reviewed all of the scandalous, horrid, Rothschild-type controlled economies of Europe,

[00:05:49] and then came back and had some hearings in the United States.

[00:05:53] And they finally passed it, and December 23, 1913, Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve.

[00:06:01] You know, we talk about the Federal Reserve a lot on your program, Sam,

[00:06:04] and I just thought that you and your listeners might like to be reminded, maybe not like to be,

[00:06:10] but it would be appropriate to be reminded that this came into official existence in the United States by an act of Congress signed by the president,

[00:06:19] and it has been a bane to the entire economy of the United States since then.

[00:06:25] You know, they admitted they started, you know, the big crash at the end of the 20s.

[00:06:30] And, you know, every single stumbling we've had along the way, they've had their fingers in it.

[00:06:36] So I just thought I'd mention that because people need to realize because and how it came into existence have been taken out of existence the same way.

[00:06:46] An act of Congress and boom, gone.

[00:06:51] And first of all...

[00:06:52] Well, you could say it was a criminal act of Congress, though.

[00:06:54] It was, indeed.

[00:06:56] There's no constitutional authority.

[00:06:57] So what do we do when laws get passed that are criminal and they conflict with the supreme law of the land?

[00:07:02] They're laws that never were, right?

[00:07:04] They're pretend legislation.

[00:07:05] They are pretend legislation.

[00:07:07] That's exactly what the founding fathers talked about in the Declaration of Independence.

[00:07:12] So do we even need to have Congress take away the pretend legislation?

[00:07:16] Or can we just, as the president say, it was never a law?

[00:07:18] It shouldn't have been.

[00:07:19] It's been a lie.

[00:07:20] You've been defrauded for 111 years and it should stop today.

[00:07:25] You know, I think you're going to find too many naysayers to that to be able to pull that off with impunity.

[00:07:32] But factually, my point is correct, though.

[00:07:35] At what point are we obligated by unconstitutional, immoral, pretend legislative pieces that conflict with the supreme law of the land?

[00:07:43] At what point are we obligated for those?

[00:07:45] Well, I don't believe we really truly are, but you're going to get a huge, huge blowback.

[00:07:51] So here's the point.

[00:07:53] Here's the point.

[00:07:54] We ought to use Congress to get rid of it, not necessarily because we have to, but because then you could rally support.

[00:08:00] But what we would do is we'd jettison the debt and say we're not going to pay the fraudulent debt that was created on our backs.

[00:08:06] Yeah.

[00:08:07] In fact, I mean, here's kind of the problem with a sweeping...

[00:08:13] See, I'm all trying to celebrate Christmas.

[00:08:15] And Dr. Bradley brought us into a big old banking cartel scandal for the last 111 years, people.

[00:08:21] Merry Christmas.

[00:08:22] It's a pit that we've been sitting in.

[00:08:25] We've lost 98% to 99% of the purchasing power of the dollar.

[00:08:29] But here's the idea with the debt, though.

[00:08:31] It is not all owed to the Federal Reserve.

[00:08:34] And I've had...

[00:08:35] Well, my dad died a number of years ago.

[00:08:37] And there were a lot of people that had a lot of trust in government.

[00:08:44] I mean, even when I was a kid, I used to buy war bonds.

[00:08:48] You know, my dad would say, you know, you need to do stuff like this.

[00:08:51] Anyway, but we'd have discussions about getting rid of the Federal Reserve and the national debt.

[00:08:58] And by some sweeping act like you just mentioned, let's just repudiate it.

[00:09:02] And dad says, well, what about the debt they owe me?

[00:09:07] He said, I have been buying bonds and they back the national debt.

[00:09:15] And should I be?

[00:09:17] And there are foreign powers that have done this same thing, too.

[00:09:20] I mean, a lot of foreign powers own part of the national debt of the United States.

[00:09:25] And so it's not just poof, poof, gone.

[00:09:29] I mean, the Federal Reserve is gone.

[00:09:31] And so any obligation we might have say we got unconstitutional, though it is, over the years,

[00:09:39] there's a lot of little people that are going to get kind of, you know, run over in that tussling match.

[00:09:45] And so this is maybe one of these things we need to extract ourselves from.

[00:09:49] But we can extract ourselves.

[00:09:52] And everybody would have to say, well, yeah, it came into existence legislatively in a presidential signature.

[00:09:59] It can happen again.

[00:10:00] It's kind of like this daylight savings time nonsense.

[00:10:04] Part of the problem with disabling it using Congress or disabling it, you know, if Congress passed it and the president signed it,

[00:10:10] is you almost codify it as legitimate law that needs to be reversed is part of the problem with that avenue.

[00:10:17] It codifies it.

[00:10:18] It says, hey, they can do this.

[00:10:19] They've done it before, and we have to use the checks and balances to remove it.

[00:10:23] And to me, the checks and balances were violated in the beginning.

[00:10:26] See, a law that conflicts with the supreme law of the land is a law that never was.

[00:10:31] Well, I think that there's a lot of validity to what you're saying,

[00:10:34] but there's nobody in my memory banks right now that I can think of that's 111 years old.

[00:10:40] I mean, nobody seems to recognize that we the people screwed up royally 111.

[00:10:46] Well, it actually got passed before that was signed on today's date, 111 years old.

[00:10:49] Yeah, I think a lot of people know about it.

[00:10:51] I just think we feel powerless to do much about it is the problem.

[00:10:54] You know, it's interesting to me.

[00:10:56] I was speaking in a little community up in Wyoming.

[00:11:01] We had just about all of the – I mean, I've told you this maybe on the air before,

[00:11:04] but we had a – it seemed like the entire community had come to this meeting that I was speaking in

[00:11:10] about the founding principles of the nation.

[00:11:12] There's a lot of really good patriots up in Wyoming.

[00:11:15] I mean, this is the salt-of-the-earth kind of people,

[00:11:18] and we had people hanging from the rafters almost to try and get everybody into this community center they had.

[00:11:27] And when I got done speaking, there was an old tottering guy, cowboy.

[00:11:32] He had a cowboy hat and all duded out with a neckerchief and everything,

[00:11:36] and he had his cowboy shirt on.

[00:11:38] His boots looked like they were older than dirt.

[00:11:40] But at any rate, when I got done, I said, any questions or comments?

[00:11:45] And he kind of stood up, and he says, could I say something?

[00:11:48] I said, sure, go ahead.

[00:11:50] Anyway, he said – he turned to the audience.

[00:11:53] He didn't say anything to me.

[00:11:55] He turned to them, and he said – he says, I'm the only person here that was born free.

[00:12:01] He says, I was born in 1909.

[00:12:05] And he said – no, no, excuse me.

[00:12:09] He was born in 1911.

[00:12:10] That's why I remember that, because remember that 1911 is a very fine firearm.

[00:12:15] But anyway, he says, I was born in 1911.

[00:12:17] Say again?

[00:12:18] I said, yes, indeed it is.

[00:12:20] It is.

[00:12:21] So anyway, he says, I was born in 1911.

[00:12:25] And he says, I'm the only one here that was born free.

[00:12:28] He says, unless you listen to this young man up here – he's pointing to me, and I'm going, hey, young man.

[00:12:34] First time I've been called that a long time.

[00:12:36] Anyway, he says, unless you listen to this young man up here, you and your children and grandchildren

[00:12:42] will lose liberties that you never, ever knew you even had.

[00:12:46] And it's a tragedy what we've done to this nation.

[00:12:50] So 1913 came right after his birth.

[00:12:55] So he was referring to the fact that in 1913, of course, we had the Federal Reserve Act.

[00:13:00] We had the income tax come into effect.

[00:13:03] And we also had the 17th Amendment implemented, which was the states lost their seat at the table at the national level.

[00:13:13] So 1913, 111 years ago, was a watershed year for bad things.

[00:13:19] And Woodrow Wilson and his crew, the Nelson Aldriches and the J.P. Morgans and all those kind of guys, go back.

[00:13:27] Go read.

[00:13:28] Everybody should read if they haven't read G. Edward Griffin's magnificent book.

[00:13:33] It's a big, thick book, Creature from Jekyll Island.

[00:13:37] And it reads like a Tom Clancy page-turner.

[00:13:41] It's just, it does not seem like a historical, you know, review of how we fell into tyranny.

[00:13:48] But it is.

[00:13:49] But it reads very engagingly.

[00:13:52] And you've got to read it.

[00:13:54] I mean, there's stuff covered in there that people say, I didn't know that.

[00:13:58] How did I?

[00:13:58] How did I miss that?

[00:14:00] How did my college classes in history avoid that?

[00:14:03] Whatever.

[00:14:08] How did I miss that?

[00:14:08] But the Jekyll Island thing goes back to the November 1910.

[00:14:12] Amen.

[00:14:12] Creature from Jekyll Island, a great, huge educational book, to say the least, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:14:17] So my headline for this now that I've written, this day in history, colon, December 23rd, 1913.

[00:14:26] The Federal Reserve is unconstitutionally, criminally created.

[00:14:31] Yeah.

[00:14:32] And then it says, on this day in history, 1913, President Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act into, quote, pretend legislation slash law, exclamation point.

[00:14:46] That's what we got.

[00:14:47] That's what happened.

[00:14:48] It's criminal.

[00:14:48] It needs to be stopped.

[00:14:49] Donald Trump not talking about that at all, but he should be.

[00:14:52] And this Christmas, we get beat up.

[00:14:54] And I know we focused on this, you know, quite a bit on Friday, but I got to cover it as well because a few things happen over the weekend that are really critical that relate.

[00:15:01] So every Christmas, we get fleeced and abused and everything else.

[00:15:05] I'll be quick on this because there's not really much to say.

[00:15:08] It's already done now, right?

[00:15:09] Well, Sam, but we predicted it.

[00:15:11] Well, of course.

[00:15:12] The two-hour radio that we had on Friday, the two-hour segment.

[00:15:15] Yes, indeed.

[00:15:15] We ran around the block on this continuing resolution, and we discussed all of the stuff about letting it shut down and blah, blah, blah.

[00:15:25] And we really encouraged them to shut it down, and they didn't.

[00:15:28] Excuse me.

[00:15:29] And they didn't.

[00:15:31] They should have shut it down, but they failed, in my humble opinion.

[00:15:35] Everybody's all happy about the fail, except for people like me.

[00:15:38] Now, Dr. Bradley predicted the fail and the passage of this.

[00:15:42] A lot of people are celebrating it as a huge win.

[00:15:45] I completely disagree.

[00:15:47] House passes bill to avert government shutdown just before the deadline, writes CNN.

[00:15:53] The Senate passed the continuing resolution spending bill by 85 to 11.

[00:16:00] I know, folks.

[00:16:01] I get it.

[00:16:02] That doesn't add up to 100.

[00:16:03] There's 100 senators, but 85 to 11 to fund the federal government through March 14th.

[00:16:10] And I mentioned the disaster of that date.

[00:16:13] Because, you know, it's, well, let's see.

[00:16:17] January 20th, February, March.

[00:16:19] It's, you know, 45.

[00:16:22] March 14th is what they've done it through.

[00:16:24] Right.

[00:16:24] But it's the 20th of January that he takes office.

[00:16:27] Oh, that.

[00:16:28] Yeah.

[00:16:28] Okay.

[00:16:28] So it's almost too much.

[00:16:29] It's a little bit shy.

[00:16:30] It's 55 days or whatever into his administration.

[00:16:33] And he'll have to wrestle with that, which, if you're not very careful, will eclipse any gains we may have gained.

[00:16:39] If you're not very, very quick off the mark.

[00:16:42] It's a little bit of a deal.

[00:16:52] It's a little bit of a deal.

[00:17:06] It's a little bit of a deal.

[00:17:10] Okay.

[00:17:11] Anyway, Trump resigned, but not happy debt ceiling was not included in the spending bill.

[00:17:16] Well, House lawmakers were expected to vote on the new CR Friday evening, which they did.

[00:17:24] The problem that I have with it is it was under suspension of House rules, ladies and gentlemen,

[00:17:30] which required two-thirds of lawmakers to support the passage.

[00:17:33] But again, why are they breaking all their rules?

[00:17:36] Because they know full well that they've got to do this in the dead of night.

[00:17:40] It's Christmas. No one's focused on it.

[00:17:42] It's a disgrace. What's in the deal, you may ask?

[00:17:45] Well, it would extend funding into March.

[00:17:48] Now, here's the other thing I don't understand.

[00:17:49] Why not just extend it? If you can extend it to March 14th, why not just do it until, say, I don't know, February 1st?

[00:17:57] You know, enough time where, hey, Trump can take office, we can get settled down, go to bed.

[00:18:01] Why March?

[00:18:04] It includes disaster relief, which we don't have any authority to do.

[00:18:09] Farming provisions.

[00:18:10] Now, it doesn't include an extension of the debt ceiling or debt limit.

[00:18:15] Which President Trump was demanding and all that kind of stuff.

[00:18:18] Chip Roy repeatedly opposed it, got attacked relentlessly on this.

[00:18:24] They say that they, well, everybody's kind of happy.

[00:18:27] They feel like they've got the framework to cut spending in the future.

[00:18:30] And I don't agree with any of it.

[00:18:31] I think it's a lie.

[00:18:32] I think they've been betrayed.

[00:18:33] And I think everybody's happy about the trade.

[00:18:35] Betrayed.

[00:18:35] They say Elon Musk is happy.

[00:18:37] Donald Trump wishes the debt ceiling was removed, but he's happy.

[00:18:40] Republican leaders are happy.

[00:18:42] Democrats are happy.

[00:18:43] I mean, everybody.

[00:18:43] I think you gave Donald, I think that you gave Joe Biden a huge pass on this thing.

[00:18:49] You should have shut down government and highlighted the disgraceful four years ending in failure.

[00:18:55] But they failed, doctor.

[00:18:57] They failed.

[00:18:58] Yeah, it would have been a really good period and exclamation point behind Joe Biden's failed presidency.

[00:19:04] But, you know, you say, why not extend it to February 1st?

[00:19:06] And here's what some people are actually saying.

[00:19:10] Why didn't they just extend it to September 30th?

[00:19:14] I mean, you know, if you can do one, you can do the other.

[00:19:16] Why can't you?

[00:19:17] I mean, basically continue spending as, you know, the previous fiscal year had been.

[00:19:23] And, of course, they threw all these other, you know, $100 billion emergency relief status stuff and the farm relief package.

[00:19:31] Holy Hannah.

[00:19:32] You know, farmers used to be rock-ribbed, solid, conservative, you know, individuals.

[00:19:38] Now they're all in the dull now, buddy.

[00:19:39] They don't have any backbone anymore, buddy.

[00:19:41] We don't need to turn to God Almighty on our knees in prayer and stuff like that.

[00:19:44] We just turn to big old daddy government.

[00:19:46] We're all good.

[00:19:47] You going to get out of the way while I drive my new truck out of the parking lot here, buddy?

[00:19:52] I think there are some that you, you know, we used to know as farmers.

[00:19:57] It just kills me to watch people go to the government trough and they lose their independence and their strength and their, you know, this, what America's been about.

[00:20:10] I mean, little house on the prairie stuff, you know.

[00:20:13] They went out and fought, you know, for their livelihood and by their strength and faith and hard work, all that kind of stuff.

[00:20:23] They pulled it off, you know.

[00:20:27] And today when you get, you know, billions upon billions upon tens of billions of dollars sent out.

[00:20:34] Now, I don't know this for a fact.

[00:20:36] It's going to be hard to prove with just my statement.

[00:20:39] But I'm guessing based upon the size of corporate farming nowadays, the vast majority of that goes into a corporate coffer.

[00:20:47] And I say oftentimes, you know, there's no authority to redistribute wealth anywhere in the Constitution, not to another nation, not to a corporation, not to a state, not to a county or municipal, not to an individual.

[00:21:00] There is no authority for redistribution of wealth.

[00:21:03] That is a socialist program.

[00:21:05] But that's what we're doing right now.

[00:21:07] And the farmers have come to feed at that trough.

[00:21:10] And I think that, you know, the vast majority of that probably is going to a corporate structure.

[00:21:18] You know, and you say, well, oh, no, corporations aren't in there.

[00:21:20] No, but so are not individuals.

[00:21:23] But they, well, I'm going to, okay, let's think about this for a second.

[00:21:28] And I don't know the order these would be in.

[00:21:31] But I'm going to say that probably the top five, let's begin the conversation with, of lobbyists in the United States that take advantage of legislature through, you know, this corporate feeding trough thing, probably the Israeli lobbyists.

[00:21:50] Is it the very, very, very, very, I'm going to repeat it more, top of the list?

[00:21:55] Well, okay.

[00:21:56] I mean, I don't know which is what, but let's say they're huge people.

[00:21:59] They are Israeli lobbyists, the military industrial lobbyists, the pharma lobbyists, not farmer, pharma, as in drug lobbyists, and the farm lobbyists group.

[00:22:16] You've got to have the government school teachers union, you know, government lobbyists.

[00:22:20] Government school education lobbyists, yeah.

[00:22:21] They would be the top five, probably, in terms of lobbyist power and who's buying the most influence through.

[00:22:29] Unions may be in there.

[00:22:31] They used to be right there, but unions have kind of fallen out of favor a little bit in the, you know, the persona of the nation in recent years.

[00:22:38] But those five, six, let's say, they really, really are the source of so much of the election funding that goes into a lot of people.

[00:22:52] They know they get elected because these guys have thrown money in their coffers.

[00:22:57] The first time I ran for Senate back in 2006, Horan Hatch had a war chest at that time of $6 million.

[00:23:09] Now, a little unknown guy like me that doesn't have, you know, any status or standing and certainly is not an incumbent, you know, that's a pretty daunting thing to happen.

[00:23:20] Now there are tens and tens of millions that go into some elections, even congressional elections.

[00:23:27] It's only for two years.

[00:23:29] And where does all that money come from?

[00:23:31] It comes from special interest groups.

[00:23:33] And those five, six lobbyists, lobbyist groups that we mentioned are very, very central to this idea of the incumbent mentality.

[00:23:44] And, of course, once they get in office, they pass laws like the federal election laws that are incumbent protectors.

[00:23:52] All of those things happen, and it prevents we, the people, from being able to do very much in this great battle of liberty.

[00:24:01] Amen to that.

[00:24:02] Shame on Biden for signing the infamous stopgap spending bill.

[00:24:06] Should have never been signed.

[00:24:08] Shame on Donald Trump asking for the ridiculous debt ceiling to be increased.

[00:24:13] I agree.

[00:24:14] If you agree with the Federal Reserve, why do we need a debt ceiling?

[00:24:17] If we're going to go with fake money, why not have a never-ending fake money supply?

[00:24:21] Scott Bradley wisely says, hey, I think we ought to chain them down with the Constitution.

[00:24:25] That's what I'm saying.

[00:24:27] Hang tight, ladies and gentlemen.

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[00:24:35] Donald Trump threatens to reclaim the Panama Canal.

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[00:31:12] Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, Sam Bushman, Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsizingson.com,

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[00:31:20] We're talking about all things Christmas, and sadly, there's some things that we've had to deal with at Christmas time over the years

[00:31:27] in the greatest country on the face of the earth that have been absolutely devastating.

[00:31:31] A day of infamy, as Dr. Scott Bradley wisely calls it.

[00:31:34] This day in history, ladies and gentlemen, December 23rd,

[00:31:38] the Federal Reserve was unconstitutionally criminally created and signed into the law by Wilford.

[00:31:43] Wow.

[00:31:44] Wilford.

[00:31:45] Let me start over.

[00:31:47] By Wilson.

[00:31:48] Woodrow Wilson.

[00:31:49] Signed it into law, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:31:51] What a disgrace that was.

[00:31:53] It's pretend legislation.

[00:31:54] It's not law at all.

[00:31:55] Nevertheless, shame they signed the stopgap spending bill at Christmas time as well.

[00:32:00] It is a disgrace.

[00:32:01] What is in the deal?

[00:32:03] Extend government funding into March.

[00:32:05] Why they did that is beyond me.

[00:32:07] They promoted disaster relief and farming provisions.

[00:32:10] They did not include an increase of the debt ceiling, which Donald was begging for.

[00:32:14] Shame on Donald for that.

[00:32:16] Shame on all of them for putting that into law.

[00:32:19] Now, Donald Trump was at a Turning Point USA meeting over the last couple of days.

[00:32:24] It was Thursday through Sunday in Phoenix, Arizona.

[00:32:27] I don't know how many people are aware of that.

[00:32:29] Huge crowd.

[00:32:30] Huge events.

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[00:32:33] And Trump threatens to reclaim the Panama Canal.

[00:32:38] Donald Trump says that issue are the fees Panama charges U.S. ships to pass through the canal, which he calls exorbitant.

[00:32:47] It's a shame.

[00:32:48] He said it was given to Panama and to the people of Panama.

[00:32:53] Hey, based on this idea that they'd treat us fairly, they haven't done so.

[00:32:57] Anyway, I want to play this clip from President Trump.

[00:32:59] And then we'll get back and we'll talk about it.

[00:33:01] But he first off says some things that we really need.

[00:33:03] And then he goes into the Panama Canal.

[00:33:05] Here it is.

[00:33:05] We need borders.

[00:33:07] We need fair elections.

[00:33:08] And we need a free and fair press.

[00:33:12] And we're going to try getting all of them.

[00:33:15] Amen to that.

[00:33:16] That's another example of the things we're doing and looking at.

[00:33:21] It's such a terrible thing is happening.

[00:33:24] The Panama Canal is considered a vital national asset for the United States of America.

[00:33:31] Due to its critical role, American economy, the whole world economy, and also national security.

[00:33:39] The Panama Canal.

[00:33:40] Has anyone ever heard of the Panama Canal?

[00:33:42] Huh?

[00:33:43] Because we're being ripped off at the Panama Canal like we're being ripped off everywhere else.

[00:33:49] A secure...

[00:33:50] He just said, take it back.

[00:33:51] That's a good idea.

[00:33:54] Where do you come from, sir?

[00:33:55] He doesn't come from Panama.

[00:33:57] Huh?

[00:33:58] Yeah, good.

[00:33:59] A secure Panama Canal is crucial for U.S. commerce and rapid deployment of the Navy from

[00:34:07] the Atlantic all the way to the Pacific.

[00:34:09] It's an incredible thing.

[00:34:11] And drastically cut shipping times down to U.S. ports by days and even weeks.

[00:34:19] The United States is the number one user of the Panama Canal with over 72% of all transits

[00:34:26] heading to or from U.S. ports.

[00:34:28] Think of that.

[00:34:29] So we built it.

[00:34:30] We're the ones that use it.

[00:34:31] They gave it away.

[00:34:34] Considered one of the...

[00:34:35] Really one of the great wonders of the world.

[00:34:39] The Panama Canal opened for business 110 years ago and was built at huge cost to the United

[00:34:46] States.

[00:34:47] And it really is big when you consider the lives and the treasure, the equivalent of $1.2 trillion

[00:34:56] today.

[00:34:57] You don't hear those numbers.

[00:34:59] 38,000 American men, almost all men, they went there to be construction workers and dig.

[00:35:08] They were diggers.

[00:35:09] They were diggers.

[00:35:10] And they were brave.

[00:35:10] 38,000 men died from infected mosquitoes in the jungles of Panama during the construction

[00:35:20] period.

[00:35:20] Think of that.

[00:35:21] We lost 38,000 men.

[00:35:22] Teddy Roosevelt was president of the United States at the time of its building and understood

[00:35:29] the strength of naval power and trade.

[00:35:32] When President Jimmy Carter foolishly gave it away, gave it away for $1, $1.

[00:35:40] During his term in office, it was solely for Panama to manage and not for China or any other

[00:35:47] country to manage.

[00:35:48] You see what's going on there?

[00:35:50] China.

[00:35:50] China.

[00:35:57] It was likewise not given for Panama to charge the United States, its Navy and its corporations

[00:36:04] doing business within our country, exorbitant prices and rates of passage, which they do.

[00:36:11] They charge us like it's a disgrace.

[00:36:16] Our Navy and commerce have been treated in a very unfair and injudicious way.

[00:36:22] The fees being charged by Panama are ridiculous.

[00:36:26] Highly unfair, especially knowing the extraordinary generosity that has been bestowed to Panama.

[00:36:34] I say very foolishly by the United States, this complete ripoff of our country will immediately

[00:36:41] stop.

[00:36:43] It's going to stop.

[00:36:45] The United States has a big and vested interest in the secure, efficient and reliable operation

[00:36:54] of the Panama Canal.

[00:36:56] And that was always understood when they gave it to Panama.

[00:37:02] Can you believe that?

[00:37:04] We would never have done it if we thought what's happening now can happen.

[00:37:11] And we would never and we will never, ever let it fall into the wrong hands.

[00:37:19] But it's falling into the wrong hands.

[00:37:20] It was not given for the benefit of others by a token of cooperation.

[00:37:27] But it was given to Panama and to the people of Panama.

[00:37:32] But it has provisions.

[00:37:34] You got to treat us fairly.

[00:37:36] And they haven't treated us fairly.

[00:37:38] If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed,

[00:37:45] then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to the United States of America

[00:37:51] in full, quickly and without question.

[00:37:56] I'm not going to stand for it.

[00:37:57] So to the officials of Panama, please be guided accordingly.

[00:38:04] There you have it.

[00:38:05] I apologize for playing such a long clip.

[00:38:07] Donald kind of rambles a little bit in many ways.

[00:38:10] But he does have a handle on what's going on.

[00:38:12] I mean, number one, I debate we should have never built it.

[00:38:14] But number two, when we built it, we should have never given it away.

[00:38:18] And number three, this idea that, oh, you better start treating us right or we're going to take it back.

[00:38:22] Very interesting discussions.

[00:38:24] Dr. Bradley.

[00:38:25] You know me, I like the long-form interview kind of process.

[00:38:30] And the history behind this is absolutely astounding.

[00:38:34] And people need to recognize what it is.

[00:38:37] The treaty that was signed back in 1903 grants in perpetuity to the United States

[00:38:45] all of the associated everything that was there.

[00:38:48] United States blood, sweat, tears, gold created that.

[00:38:54] It is and was considered to be United States territory as though it were part of the United States.

[00:39:01] Now, look, when we added a state under the Northwest Ordinance of 1787-89,

[00:39:07] the territory came to the United States, became a state.

[00:39:10] In fact, John McCain was born there.

[00:39:14] And Congress said, yes, this is United States territory.

[00:39:18] Therefore, he's eligible to be a president.

[00:39:20] That's another discussion we could have.

[00:39:22] But the fact of the matter is this was transferred to the United States in perpetuity.

[00:39:28] By the way, the United States was complicit at the very least and probably encouraged, fed, funded, and everything else.

[00:39:36] The rebellion of Panama, which became the country of Panama, from Colombia to break that off in order for us to do this.

[00:39:44] This was completely done for the benefit of the United States.

[00:39:49] We facilitated a rebellion, if you will, down there in the Isthmus of the Panama, broke it off from Colombia.

[00:39:56] You can see why a lot of the South American countries don't have a lot of trust for the United States because of what happened here.

[00:40:03] Okay.

[00:40:04] All of that said and done.

[00:40:06] That's why I'm saying we should have never built it in the first place.

[00:40:08] Well, it was a pretty interesting thing, but they did.

[00:40:12] They purchased it.

[00:40:13] The United States purchased it just like the Gadsden Treaty purchased a segment, a strip of land back from Mexico to be able to build a railroad.

[00:40:25] Well, they purchased it from Panama in order to build this canal.

[00:40:29] And it is a national treasure.

[00:40:32] It was a national treasure.

[00:40:33] China, he said China should never be able to manage it.

[00:40:37] They do manage it.

[00:40:38] Panama turned it over to China.

[00:40:40] And China...

[00:40:41] That's the problem.

[00:40:42] We'll come back and talk about it with Dr. Scott Bradley.

[00:40:44] The question is, should we have built it?

[00:40:45] The question is, should we take it back?

[00:40:47] The question is, what should we do now?

[00:40:49] Right?

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[00:43:35] Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Sam Bushman.

[00:43:36] Dr. Scott Bradley's with me.

[00:43:37] We're talking about the Panama Canal.

[00:43:41] Donald Trump says, hey, we got to reclaim that sucker he threatens to do so.

[00:43:45] Will he really?

[00:43:46] I doubt it.

[00:43:47] It's kind of like lock her up.

[00:43:48] He says that's a good idea, but will he really do it?

[00:43:50] I doubt it.

[00:43:51] I agree China's the problem.

[00:43:53] I agree Panama's turned it over to China.

[00:43:55] I agree it's a disgrace.

[00:43:56] I don't think we should have ever built it.

[00:43:58] I know in a way we bought it, but we also topple governments and divide governments before

[00:44:02] we do things, which sets the stage for, in my mind, the problems that we face.

[00:44:08] And then we built the canal, and then, hey, then we turn it over to somebody else and

[00:44:11] gave it away.

[00:44:12] And, you know, where do they get authority to build it with the tax dollars and then give

[00:44:15] it away?

[00:44:16] Where constitutionally do they have authority to do that?

[00:44:18] Doctor?

[00:44:19] Well, again, the back story actually adds a lot of credibility to what you're saying.

[00:44:25] And there is a legal status on this whole situation.

[00:44:30] It was obtained, American gold and blood, sweat and tears, as we talked about.

[00:44:34] But the fact of the matter is, it was American-owned property and territory.

[00:44:39] And Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2 of the Constitution says this, the Congress shall have power to

[00:44:47] dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or the other property

[00:44:53] belonging to the United States.

[00:44:56] Okay, so who's the Congress?

[00:44:59] Oh, yeah, go back and read Article 1.

[00:45:00] It's the House and the Senate.

[00:45:02] So what happened when Jimmy Carter brought this fiasco to the Senate?

[00:45:07] It was a treaty that he had signed with the leader of Panama.

[00:45:10] And the Senate ultimately ratified that.

[00:45:15] But under that Senate treaty that Carter had negotiated, it gave away U.S. territory.

[00:45:22] Okay?

[00:45:23] Now, that violates Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2, which says the Congress does this.

[00:45:29] Now, I...

[00:45:29] In other words, the House got skipped.

[00:45:32] The House got skipped.

[00:45:33] And I went over this with Utah's congressman at the time was Jim Hansen.

[00:45:38] Holy Hannah, dumb as a boxer rocks.

[00:45:40] But the fact of the matter is, this thing violated the Constitution.

[00:45:46] Now, by the way, the Senate thought that the treaty was a crappy treaty.

[00:45:51] And there was a guy named Deconcini.

[00:45:53] It's Arizona, if I recall correctly.

[00:45:55] He's a Democrat from Arizona that said, no, no, no, this is not just a national treasure.

[00:46:02] It is national security at stake.

[00:46:04] And that's what I believe.

[00:46:06] And so Deconcini put forth an amendment to the treaty that was passed by the Senate that said,

[00:46:13] we will not ratify this treaty unless it includes this clause, which means that it's protected for the use of the United States.

[00:46:23] And if it ever falls out of that use and that protection, the United States can take it back.

[00:46:29] Okay?

[00:46:29] So Deconcini, the amendment was put in, in the Senate and said, this is absolutely an essential element of the ratification.

[00:46:39] Carter refused to submit that to the Panama government.

[00:46:44] And so, Sam, this is an example everybody should be able to understand.

[00:46:49] Let's say I have an agreement that says I bought your house for $100,000.

[00:46:53] And you have an agreement that says I bought your house for $1,000,000.

[00:46:58] Okay?

[00:46:59] Do we have an agreement?

[00:47:01] The absolute answer is no.

[00:47:03] We do not because our agreements do not agree.

[00:47:07] Okay?

[00:47:07] What we really have is the person in the middle that made both those agreements are guilty of a double contract.

[00:47:12] It's flat-out fraud.

[00:47:13] It is fraud.

[00:47:14] Okay, so here's what happened.

[00:47:17] Carter was complicit in a fraud to the United States.

[00:47:20] The Senate said we ain't going to ratify this baby unless this Deconceni amendment gets put in it.

[00:47:27] And that never got submitted.

[00:47:28] So we had two different contracts out there, if you will, for the agreement.

[00:47:33] Again, they weren't empowered to make that agreement because Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2 says both houses have got to be involved in an agreement that gives away territory.

[00:47:43] In other words, neither contract followed the supreme law of the land contract with the people.

[00:47:47] And specifically chartering the House of Representatives to be key for any of these pieces of legislation, even if we were to agree to it.

[00:47:56] So there's all kinds of problems with this thing.

[00:47:59] But it has been turned over to China.

[00:48:02] True.

[00:48:02] I have a daughter that spent a year and a half down there in the Panama area, in Panama, in the zone and all that kind of stuff.

[00:48:10] I mean, it's an incredible, incredible engineering manifest.

[00:48:15] I mean, it is amazing.

[00:48:17] Our blood, sweat, and tears, our gold bought it in perpetuity according to the agreement with Panama.

[00:48:23] I know we overthrew an appropriate government.

[00:48:26] I am not endorsing any of that kind of nonsense.

[00:48:30] But the pass on, the giveaway, happened unconstitutionally.

[00:48:36] It is a national security issue.

[00:48:39] Now, the whole thing, it could unravel.

[00:48:45] And I know that Trump has signed.

[00:48:46] Well, you've got to ask some questions, though.

[00:48:47] Who gave authority to buy it in the first place?

[00:48:49] The Congress did.

[00:48:52] The Congress, okay, it was a treaty that was signed.

[00:48:58] What's his name?

[00:48:59] Roosevelt went down there.

[00:49:00] No, I get it.

[00:49:01] So here's the question, though.

[00:49:02] What would it have been worth, and who would have sold it had we not broke up the governments ahead of time?

[00:49:07] Here's the problem.

[00:49:10] We were negotiating with Columbia.

[00:49:12] With another six months of negotiation, I think we could have kept all of the appropriate.

[00:49:18] And that would have been legitimate.

[00:49:20] Honorable things to do with Columbia.

[00:49:22] But, no, we got Teddy Roosevelt, you know, the big stick concept, says, to hell with those guys.

[00:49:27] We're going to go in there and cut this thing off, or we're going to install a new government.

[00:49:33] There was a book written almost 50 years ago.

[00:49:35] I think it was 1978.

[00:49:38] Pathway Between the Seas.

[00:49:39] Get it and read it.

[00:49:40] I'm telling you, it's a pretty good novel review of this, of the construction of the Panama Canal.

[00:49:48] Now, from about, you know, because the French had tried it before, from about 1875 to 1914.

[00:49:55] An amazing accomplishment, engineering-wise and everything.

[00:49:58] But he reviews the dastardly things that we did, where we literally fomented, just like we did in Ukraine.

[00:50:08] I mean, we could use all sorts of examples.

[00:50:10] Iran, you know, when Eisenhower overthrew.

[00:50:13] Is it written by David McAuliffe?

[00:50:14] Pathway Between the Seas?

[00:50:15] Pathways.

[00:50:16] It's a very fascinating read for people that don't want to just get bogged down in history, like I may do to them sometimes.

[00:50:23] But he's very engaging in his writing, and it's largely true.

[00:50:30] I mean, it covers the issue pretty well.

[00:50:33] I would say get that for Christmas, read it over the holidays, and then give that consideration with what Trump is attempting to do.

[00:50:41] But what happened under Carter, by the way, what happened under Carter started under Eisenhower.

[00:50:48] Eisenhower actually planted the seeds that Carter signed.

[00:50:53] You know, he cultivated them until it was given away, finally.

[00:50:59] And, man, we had a big, I mean, people like me heavily engaged in trying to preserve the fact that we need this for our military security, if nothing else.

[00:51:09] We are a blue water navy, deep water.

[00:51:14] We have to have access to both coasts, if you will, to protect our country.

[00:51:19] And I know the canal, the width of the canal had become somewhat antiquated.

[00:51:26] And a lot of people use that as justification.

[00:51:28] Oh, you know, we couldn't get our big battleships and their carriers and everything through.

[00:51:32] But the fact of the matter is another canal has been manufactured using Chinese money and everything to run parallel to that.

[00:51:40] I take a whole different look at this thing.

[00:51:42] I don't believe that we should have toppled the governments and bought it for, you know, whatever different arrangements in the first place.

[00:51:47] The other problem is I know it's good for supposed trade with the rest of the world and everything.

[00:51:51] But if you're not very careful with the Chinese in charge of it, you create a fast track to be able to get to the United States shores where you didn't have that before.

[00:51:59] So to me, the whole building of it is a national security crisis.

[00:52:02] It is.

[00:52:03] And in fact, he's dead now, but he was a very good friend of mine.

[00:52:08] He spent until 1944.

[00:52:12] In fact, I mean, he got to Europe just in time for the Battle of the Bulge to get captured by the Germans.

[00:52:18] But he spent the entire, you know, 1939 to 1944, that five-year period of World War II in the canal zone, protecting that canal zone to make certain that the United States Navy had access and passage through there.

[00:52:34] And so his military service, mostly in World War II, happened in the canal zone.

[00:52:40] And then he finally, you know, things had straightened out enough that he got shipped over to Europe in time to get captured at the Battle of the Bulge.

[00:52:48] But at any rate, that was considered to be a military base, military operations.

[00:52:56] A protection force was always there.

[00:52:59] And it was essential to the United States security, military security.

[00:53:04] Like I say, we're a blue-water Navy.

[00:53:06] We need the deep-water access, and the ships need to go where they go.

[00:53:11] What do you do if you don't do that?

[00:53:13] You take them clear down the horn, the horn down into the, you know, almost Antarctica, you know.

[00:53:19] Yes, yeah.

[00:53:20] South America.

[00:53:21] Mike, we leave it just like that.

[00:53:22] I don't think we needed to build it at all in the first place.

[00:53:24] I think we were very protected as a nation, as a sea-designing seashores because of a lot of these things.

[00:53:31] And the more we disable that, the more we enable some of these things.

[00:53:35] You lose control of that canal, buddy, and you created your own demise in many, many, many ways.

[00:53:39] And what it's done is it's made us dependent on these foreign nations like China.

[00:53:43] We would have never been dependent on those foreign nations had we not built this kind of a thing.

[00:53:47] And, you know, we'd have to create our own prosperity.

[00:53:51] We'd have to create our own stability.

[00:53:53] We'd have to create our own economy.

[00:53:56] I mean, I can keep going.

[00:53:57] But anyway, any final quick thoughts on that, Doctor?

[00:54:00] You've got about 30 seconds.

[00:54:01] Well, okay.

[00:54:02] You know, I think this concept that Trump has brought forth is in keeping with the Deconceni Amendment.

[00:54:10] And I think it needs to be pursued.

[00:54:12] But we need to understand all the issues before we go in there and start a war over the Panama Zola.

[00:54:18] Should we take it back?

[00:54:20] I think so.

[00:54:22] Amen.

[00:54:22] I think it never should have been passed on.

[00:54:23] Agree.

[00:54:24] Never should have been passed on, but never should have been built.

[00:54:26] That's a whole other topic.

[00:54:27] I don't know how you unbuild it, but I'd personally like that, too.

[00:54:30] All right.

[00:54:31] Hour one of the can.

[00:54:32] Hour two coming up.

[00:54:32] Merry Christmas.

[00:54:33] God save the republic.