Radio Show Hour 1 – 12/24/2024

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[00:01:43] And welcome, Lance.

[00:01:45] Hey, thanks, Sam.

[00:01:46] Excited to be here.

[00:01:47] Just wanted to wish the Liberty Roundtable listeners a very Merry Christmas.

[00:01:52] We're excited to be here, man.

[00:01:53] I'm happy that we actually have a show.

[00:01:55] George, Merry Christmas, sir.

[00:01:57] Merry Christmas, Sam.

[00:01:58] Always a pleasure to be here.

[00:02:00] I would also like to wish all the Liberty Roundtable listeners,

[00:02:02] and for the ones that might be listening for the first time,

[00:02:05] very Merry Christmas.

[00:02:07] A happy, healthy, and safe one to you and your families.

[00:02:11] Amen to that.

[00:02:12] Matt, there's so much to cover, so little time.

[00:02:15] I want to start out with Matt Gaetz because there's some twists and turns in this that people just don't get.

[00:02:20] You know, he first was under all kinds of attack and abuse,

[00:02:23] and no one really knew what the real story was.

[00:02:26] You hear rumblings that, hey, some of it's true.

[00:02:28] You hear this.

[00:02:29] You hear that.

[00:02:30] You know, they have this big inquiry in the house.

[00:02:32] They, you know, eventually, you know, have a report, but they don't release it.

[00:02:36] They bury it.

[00:02:37] Then they eventually release it.

[00:02:38] Matt Gaetz trying to get out in front of it says this.

[00:02:42] I probably partied, womanized, drank and smoked more than I should have earlier in life,

[00:02:49] and he's trying to kind of minimize it and saying, look, there's nothing really here that meets criminal activity.

[00:02:54] Otherwise, they would have already arrested me and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

[00:02:58] But, you know, I came on board before it got released and said, listen, we support the simple and powerful principle of change and repentance here.

[00:03:08] You know what?

[00:03:08] I think Gates can change, whether he's changed perfectly or not.

[00:03:11] You know, I don't know.

[00:03:12] I'm just saying we need to give people a little bit of the benefit of the doubt in life,

[00:03:16] and you can't let, you know, every mistake someone's made in their life haunt them or nobody will run for office, right?

[00:03:21] We need to be very careful about that, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:03:24] But Matt Gaetz is, I guess, after they released the report, it might change the lawsuit that he filed.

[00:03:31] So here's what happened.

[00:03:32] He tried to file a lawsuit that said, hey, you can't release this report.

[00:03:36] He lost.

[00:03:36] He said it threatened constitutional fundamental rights.

[00:03:41] He sued the Health Ethics Committee saying, hey, you guys just can't release this thing.

[00:03:45] Well, they did.

[00:03:46] And the question becomes, what is it going to do to the lawsuit?

[00:03:50] Because he didn't want it released.

[00:03:51] Now is he going to say, well, now that it's released, you've done the damage that I warned you about, and now you owe me big money?

[00:03:56] What do you say, Lance?

[00:03:59] Well, you know, I don't know.

[00:04:00] That's a difficult one.

[00:04:01] First, I want to say to the audience, you know, I haven't always been the guy that I am now.

[00:04:04] I used to be a much different guy.

[00:04:06] I was much more selfish and narcissistic.

[00:04:08] But I've got to say this.

[00:04:09] I think this is a tough one.

[00:04:11] It depends on the authenticity of what's occurred.

[00:04:14] Now we know that Congress has been paying these sexual misconduct and discrimination settlements, and they've been involved in all sorts of things to the tune of $17 million, I think, in about a 15- or 20-year period.

[00:04:25] And that's taxpayer money that got paid out for all other members of Congress, all sorts of other things.

[00:04:30] And I don't know why we're paying it.

[00:04:31] I don't know why there are officers where they don't personally pay it.

[00:04:33] But, okay, we've been paying it.

[00:04:35] In the case of what's legal, it's going to really come down to the authenticity of what they're alleging.

[00:04:40] He told them that they couldn't do it, but that's not enough.

[00:04:43] If it was authentic, then it's not slander and libel, right?

[00:04:46] It's not the written word or the spoken word.

[00:04:48] So this is going to be a tricky one.

[00:04:50] This is going to come down to the authenticity of what's going on.

[00:04:52] And that may be why he won't move forward.

[00:04:54] Because let's say, theoretically, it's authentic.

[00:04:56] Maybe he just wants to be done with this and it's over and done.

[00:04:58] But if it's not authentic, if it's another Russian collusion hoax scam, then they're in serious trouble, Sam.

[00:05:06] George, I want you to chime in on this because I'm of the opinion that, you know, I think that there's some problems for Matt Gaetz.

[00:05:14] When he literally tells you there's nothing wrong, nothing wrong, nothing wrong.

[00:05:17] And then before they release the report, he says, hey, I might have parted.

[00:05:21] Woman, I drank too much, you know, but there's nothing criminal here.

[00:05:25] The problem is the first line he kind of laid out was that this is nothing but a witch hunt.

[00:05:30] Now he's virtually admitting, well, it's all true except for the criminal part.

[00:05:34] His changing story is what concerns me the most.

[00:05:40] Well, you know, typical politician always flip-flopping.

[00:05:43] But, you know, listen, I wasn't, and I know this might be a shocker to some of your listeners,

[00:05:47] I wasn't always a choir boy in my younger years.

[00:05:49] I too had some lavish activities going on, you know, but nothing.

[00:05:54] Nothing criminal in that sense.

[00:05:56] But, however, you know, we did what we did in our past and that's our past.

[00:06:00] It's what we do today.

[00:06:03] Now, the DOJ looked into this whole thing with Matt Gaetz and there were no laws broken.

[00:06:08] Right?

[00:06:09] And this is before he was, it's not like he was doing this while he was in Congress, first of all.

[00:06:13] It was years before.

[00:06:15] So who cares?

[00:06:16] He didn't even break the law.

[00:06:18] He was out partying, you know, being a kid and having a good time.

[00:06:21] Let him have a good time.

[00:06:21] You know, what's weird here, and Lance was bringing up good points, one of the girls that, you know,

[00:06:30] half ethics committee put in a report that, you know, Matt Gaetz paid her for sex,

[00:06:35] the girl in her deposition said, no, she's not a sex worker and she didn't get paid.

[00:06:42] I'm looking at it right now in front of my eyes.

[00:06:44] I'm reading it.

[00:06:44] No, those inconsistencies are a serious problem.

[00:06:46] And that's why I kind of go back, that's why I go back to this and say this, you know,

[00:06:51] why they didn't charge him with any crimes is really telling.

[00:06:54] I agree with Matt Gaetz on that.

[00:06:56] If there were crimes, you know that they would have found a way in the Democrat-controlled Congress or committees

[00:07:03] that they would have taken care of business if they could have.

[00:07:05] So I agree with Matt on that.

[00:07:07] And I also agree with this idea that, ladies and gentlemen, we defend and strongly believe in the simple, powerful principle of change and repentance.

[00:07:16] People can change, and they do.

[00:07:19] Now, this Matt Gaetz lawsuit, this ethics report, are we talking about ethics or legal stuff, Lance?

[00:07:25] Because I find this interesting.

[00:07:26] They call it a house ethics report.

[00:07:28] They don't call it a criminal report or anything like that.

[00:07:30] You've got to remember this guy's innocent until proven guilty.

[00:07:33] I don't care what an ethics report says.

[00:07:35] There's no doubt that I'm sure it was craftily worded.

[00:07:39] And that's what I think may be the issue.

[00:07:41] It all comes down to what the facts of the situation are and what they've stated.

[00:07:45] If what they've stated openly in writing and in public verbally, the people that are out for blood here against Matt Gaetz,

[00:07:52] if it doesn't match with what actually happened, they've got a serious problem.

[00:07:56] And let's face it, how many times have we seen congressional members come out with reports and come out with statements

[00:08:03] that weren't even close to true?

[00:08:05] Look at the Russian collusion hoax.

[00:08:07] Look how many of them jumped on board with the dirty 51 plus 8 and completely fabricated all of that against Mike Flynn,

[00:08:14] against Roger Stone, against Donald Trump.

[00:08:16] And you saw what they did.

[00:08:18] They should all be sued personally for what they did because we all know now that the Russian collusion hoax was fake.

[00:08:23] So how much of this is fake?

[00:08:25] And that's the issue for me, Sam.

[00:08:26] I don't trust Congress anymore.

[00:08:29] I really don't.

[00:08:29] I agree 100%.

[00:08:30] And that's why I'm bringing this whole thing up because listen to the wording.

[00:08:34] You nailed it, Lance.

[00:08:35] Listen to this wording.

[00:08:37] Here is substantial evidence that former Representative Matt Gaetz of Florida participated in prostitution,

[00:08:47] statutory rape, and illicit drug use.

[00:08:49] And you think about that first thing and you go, okay, well, wait a minute.

[00:08:53] You know, how do you define statutory rape?

[00:08:56] It's different in a lot of jurisdictions.

[00:08:58] The wording can be slightly different.

[00:08:59] And, you know, now you're dealing with a national overlay if you're dealing with federal, right?

[00:09:04] And you've got these conflicting rules and guidelines.

[00:09:06] And the bottom line is they have nothing.

[00:09:10] And when you say there's substantial evidence, though, there's not evidence enough to convict or they would have.

[00:09:16] So when we say substantial evidence, now we're talking about the eyes of the beholder where somebody might say, Sam, there's tons of evidence.

[00:09:23] This girl was 17.

[00:09:24] It's provable.

[00:09:25] He had sex with her.

[00:09:26] Everybody saw it and claims it.

[00:09:28] My response is that doesn't mean he knew it, though.

[00:09:32] And a 17-year-old, I'm not saying, you know, that she should be there in the first place.

[00:09:36] I'm just saying that's a little different than a 14-year-old and a 30-year-old or something like that.

[00:09:41] We're not talking about, okay, they're playing games here.

[00:09:44] And they're bringing everything to the brink of criminal activity, pretending that it's criminal activity, and trying to barbecue gates in the court of public opinion because they couldn't get it done behind the scenes.

[00:09:55] Now, I'm not here to say that he's a choir boy, but I'm here to say there's a difference between fact and fiction.

[00:10:00] There's a difference between noble criminal acts that are provable and not, and they've fallen short, and the evidence that that's the case is everywhere.

[00:10:09] Lance?

[00:10:09] Lance?

[00:10:10] Yeah, I think that's a very, very valid argument you've just made, and it wouldn't surprise me if you just nailed it.

[00:10:16] At the end of the day, look, they went after Gates because they were concerned about his involvement in the Trump administration, right?

[00:10:23] So he already made the decision he wasn't going to do that.

[00:10:25] He's moved on.

[00:10:26] He's going to have this show, and he's decided that he's not going to be involved in that portion of politics, at least for the moment, right?

[00:10:32] First of all, I don't really understand the intent anymore.

[00:10:34] This just seems to be malicious.

[00:10:36] And on top of it, you can't trust these people.

[00:10:39] I don't trust their committees.

[00:10:41] I don't trust their hearings.

[00:10:42] I don't trust their investigations.

[00:10:43] I literally think there might be 10 or 15 honest men in the executive branch at this point, and I think that's the situation.

[00:10:50] I concur.

[00:10:50] You need accountability and consequences to stop this kind of shenanigans.

[00:10:53] So I'm not buying it.

[00:10:55] Whether Gates did it or Gates didn't do it, I just don't trust the authenticity of what these people have done here.

[00:11:00] But let me give you an example to make the point, and this is, you know, you wonder how many of these other people,

[00:11:05] if you dig into their past lives like they've done to Gates?

[00:11:07] How many of these people will come belly up?

[00:11:09] I mean, look, Kamala slept her way to the top is the common refrain, even from those who love her and think she's great.

[00:11:16] I mean, the document and the evidence, the documentation, the evidence out there is overwhelming.

[00:11:20] Let me just see if I know how to say this.

[00:11:22] There's substantial evidence, Lance, that Kamala Harris slept her way to the top, you see.

[00:11:27] Well, I got to correct you on that.

[00:11:29] I don't know if she slept her way.

[00:11:30] She maybe, you know, got on her knees a lot.

[00:11:34] Let's make a valid point there.

[00:11:36] Listen, wait, I've got to chime in.

[00:11:38] So you made some valid great points, Sam, too.

[00:11:40] But they say the girl was 17.

[00:11:44] Now, if you look at the way these kids are today, you can't tell if they're 17, 18, 25.

[00:11:49] They just, the hormones and foods is making them look older.

[00:11:54] But Matt Gaetz, if it's true, how would you know she wasn't 17 or how do you know she wasn't 21?

[00:12:01] Being at where she was out and all that.

[00:12:04] But if you look at all these high school kids, take 17, 18 year olds.

[00:12:08] So every 18 year old that's dating a 17 year old, they'll get in trouble, that 18 year old.

[00:12:13] That's what we're saying in a sense.

[00:12:15] Yeah, that's right.

[00:12:15] I understand 17.

[00:12:16] Yeah.

[00:12:17] But when you go under.

[00:12:18] That's what I'm saying.

[00:12:19] It's not like we're talking about 14 or something.

[00:12:21] When you go 16, I got problems with that, though.

[00:12:24] Let me rephrase.

[00:12:25] So, but here's what nobody's saying.

[00:12:28] How is the U.S. House Rep, the Committee of Ethics, they call themselves the Committee of Ethics here.

[00:12:35] Where are their ethics when they put out this report lying for the fact that the girl said in her deposition,

[00:12:45] she's not a prostitute and she didn't get paid, but yet they're saying she got paid in a prostitute in her report.

[00:12:49] So where are their ethics?

[00:12:52] That's a little hypocritical here.

[00:12:54] I mean, if you're going to go with the women's movement, Lance, you got to believe her.

[00:12:57] She says she's not a prostitute, don't you?

[00:13:00] I mean, let's face it.

[00:13:01] You got to believe her, Lance.

[00:13:02] You can't.

[00:13:02] Come on.

[00:13:03] I think if we read the definition of what a prostitute is, I would have to assume that it would be payment for services.

[00:13:10] So I think if you've received any payment, a statement like she made would be contend.

[00:13:14] It depends on how far you take payment for services, too.

[00:13:17] Let me give you an example.

[00:13:18] Let's say you got a wife and you give her, you know, a monthly stipend and stuff.

[00:13:22] And, you know, you sleep with your wife, right?

[00:13:24] They can say, hey, man, that payment's directly tied to that, you know?

[00:13:27] She wouldn't be sleeping with you if you weren't giving her money.

[00:13:29] Sam, I'm going to stop you right now.

[00:13:31] You're on a slippery slope.

[00:13:32] I know.

[00:13:34] I know.

[00:13:35] But here's my point.

[00:13:36] That's the slippery slope they're on is the problem.

[00:13:39] I'm going to give you a great example of a prostitute.

[00:13:41] Not because it's his wife, but because who defines all the terms?

[00:13:45] Here's a great example of a prostitute not taking money, but using alternative means.

[00:13:52] Kamala Harris.

[00:13:54] Now, Sam, you said slept with her.

[00:13:55] I'm going to say she was on her knees using her mouth in order to advance her career.

[00:14:00] That's prostitution.

[00:14:02] She's only doing it for something in return.

[00:14:06] Yeah, but she didn't take any payment, Lance.

[00:14:08] You don't want to take payment.

[00:14:09] She took payment and she didn't take money as a payment, but she took a job, a career, a better.

[00:14:15] Payment, the definition of payment isn't necessarily a currency.

[00:14:18] It isn't necessarily related to U.S. currency or otherwise.

[00:14:21] So how do we do this?

[00:14:21] We're going to leave Kamala alone.

[00:14:23] Kamala got quid pro quo.

[00:14:26] Quid pro quo.

[00:14:28] But here's the deal.

[00:14:29] Now, so we're going to leave Kamala alone.

[00:14:32] We're not going to really drill into the Jeffrey Epstein thing.

[00:14:34] Poor Bill Clinton's in the hospital, so you can't bother Bill.

[00:14:37] We're going to go ahead and just go after Matt Gaetz, though.

[00:14:40] And we're going to use this and say, hey, this is akin to Bill Clinton.

[00:14:45] I mean, Bill Clinton had an intern in the Oval Office.

[00:14:49] Same deal as Kamala.

[00:14:50] Kind of, you know, whatever.

[00:14:52] And so we're going to just go out to Matt Gaetz and just drill into every aspect of his life.

[00:14:56] No forgiveness, no change, no repentance, no grace.

[00:14:59] But yet when the tables are turned, it's like there's a pass everywhere.

[00:15:03] Lance?

[00:15:05] There's no doubt.

[00:15:06] You know, I've said it many times.

[00:15:08] I think if any of the congressional members were put through a full investigation, I'm talking about all their finances, all their communication devices over the period of time they served in Congress, all their emails.

[00:15:20] If we did hair follicle drug testing, I'd be surprised if even 20 percent of them made it through that without us determining that they'd done something either illegal, unsavory or unethical.

[00:15:38] So here's the next question.

[00:15:40] How about Jeffrey Epstein, though?

[00:15:41] We're not really going to dig into that, though.

[00:15:43] I mean, you've got all these people with ties to Jeff, right?

[00:15:47] Oh, no doubt.

[00:15:50] So Gislaine's just going to chill.

[00:15:53] Jeff's dead.

[00:15:54] We're not going to really peel back how those ties all worked and how the money worked and how everything worked.

[00:15:59] We're not going to do that, but we're going to just absolutely just rip Matt Gaetz.

[00:16:05] So I hope Matt Gaetz, and here's my challenge to Matt.

[00:16:09] Somehow you've got to find a way to get involved with whoever you need to to start digging into.

[00:16:16] If they're going to pull back the curtain on you and say, yeah, when you're a little younger, you, you know, partied with chicks and did some things you shouldn't have done.

[00:16:22] And I'm not excusing that.

[00:16:24] Don't misunderstand me.

[00:16:25] Wrong is wrong.

[00:16:26] Right is right.

[00:16:26] I'm not dismissing that.

[00:16:27] But I submit that Matt's innocent until proven guilty, and so far they haven't proven guilt at all.

[00:16:32] They've proven a smear job is all they've proven.

[00:16:35] And I would say then if we're going to dig into that, then we've got to find a way to force them to be digging into Jeffrey Epstein, to Bill Gates, to all these people that have had ties to this.

[00:16:47] Because how do we just deal with the very simple stuff like the Matt Gaetz deal?

[00:16:54] Oh, my gosh, he was a kid and he partied.

[00:16:55] Shouldn't have done it horrible.

[00:16:57] Let it haunt him for the rest of his life.

[00:16:58] Well, we're not going to touch any of these other things.

[00:17:00] For example, is Pizza Gate real?

[00:17:02] They say no.

[00:17:03] But I got a friend who dug into it, and he literally got kicked off of the mainstream press for well over a year and had to pretty much hide out before he could come back over that.

[00:17:12] And if there's nothing to it, why that kind of a response and a reaction to yank him off the air and everything else?

[00:17:18] Now, he might not want me bringing it up, but I'm going to bring up the point.

[00:17:21] Why would he get shut down so hard when he was digging into it and starting to deliver evidence?

[00:17:26] Substantial evidence, gentlemen.

[00:17:30] You know, there's no doubt that there's lots of stories out there that we've seen lots of what I would consider pretty convincing evidence online.

[00:17:41] You know, and at the end of the day, they do their best to get rid of it.

[00:17:44] You know, look at that.

[00:17:45] Look at that.

[00:17:46] Who's the guy that just had sex on the desk in Congress?

[00:17:51] What about that kid?

[00:17:52] What happened to him?

[00:17:53] The guy that posted it that was having homosexual sex.

[00:17:56] Yeah, or it was in all these videos.

[00:17:57] It was like gay stuff and everything else, right?

[00:17:59] Yeah.

[00:18:00] And my thing is...

[00:18:01] I just got buried after it made great salacious headlines.

[00:18:03] Now it's gone.

[00:18:04] The guy's probably been promoted.

[00:18:05] No, he got fired.

[00:18:06] I'm going into overdrive online.

[00:18:07] I was just looking around for a minute.

[00:18:09] And right now...

[00:18:10] He got fired, but where did he turn up, though?

[00:18:11] Be careful, George.

[00:18:12] He'll turn up somewhere in a better position.

[00:18:14] You watch.

[00:18:17] Yeah, and here's what's interesting.

[00:18:18] Right now they're trying to craft the statement that Matt Gaetz didn't have sex with a minor,

[00:18:22] that Matt Gaetz raped a minor.

[00:18:25] So they're doing that semantics things again, where they're trying to twist it around and make it seem as, you know,

[00:18:29] as over-the-top offensive as they possibly can.

[00:18:33] And they use the word statutory rape, too.

[00:18:35] So the problem is when you use rape, you think it's like force.

[00:18:39] Hey, he threw her down.

[00:18:40] He held her down.

[00:18:41] He zip-tied her.

[00:18:42] He, you know, this hostile kind of a...

[00:18:44] Well, it turns out the statutory just means that she's 17, not 18.

[00:18:48] And he didn't know that.

[00:18:49] But yet, okay, statutory then says, okay, because she's a minor, then the games change.

[00:18:54] And it's not the same as rape at all.

[00:18:55] She may have been plenty willing.

[00:18:58] I know this is kind of crude to even go into, but I'm just saying.

[00:19:01] But it still can be considered statutory rape.

[00:19:03] So some of these terms, unless you understand the legal realities of them,

[00:19:06] sound way different than reality as well.

[00:19:09] No doubt.

[00:19:11] No doubt.

[00:19:11] But again, isn't that what they do?

[00:19:13] Isn't that how they craft the narrative?

[00:19:14] Yes, indeed.

[00:19:14] And that's my whole point.

[00:19:16] So I'm not necessarily defending Matt Gaetz.

[00:19:19] I'm not necessarily defending Matt Gaetz and what he did.

[00:19:22] I'm defending the circumstances surrounding it.

[00:19:24] And how can we surgically attack and remove and shut down and destroy Matt Gaetz,

[00:19:30] but yet we're not going to deal with the real issues?

[00:19:34] How many of these people are involved in what, where?

[00:19:37] There's allegations of all kinds of child trafficking by congressional members and staffs

[00:19:44] and all these kind of things.

[00:19:45] And then we get told there's no truth to it whatsoever.

[00:19:47] The more they say that, the more they try to deny,

[00:19:50] the more I think it becomes kind of official to some degree.

[00:19:53] At what point are we going to force the dig into that?

[00:19:56] If I were Matt, I'd work with James O'Keefe and others,

[00:19:59] not expose those suckers is what I'd do.

[00:20:01] I'd spend my whole life doing that.

[00:20:03] You know, if I was Matt, I would, even though he resigned in 2024,

[00:20:07] he could still take up his seat in 2025.

[00:20:10] And that's what I would do if I was him.

[00:20:13] Yeah, because now they've released everything.

[00:20:15] Okay, now that's out of the way, let's come on back.

[00:20:17] And maybe that's the intent.

[00:20:19] George, I think you're very wise that there's a lot of opportunities for him.

[00:20:22] But I'm telling you, I would start to expose these suckers is what I would do.

[00:20:26] Well, I want to tell you something.

[00:20:27] Did you ever think that maybe that's the true strategy?

[00:20:31] I hope so.

[00:20:33] Well, think about it like this.

[00:20:34] He's got a new gig on One America News Network, right, on Owen.

[00:20:38] Yes, indeed.

[00:20:39] You have to believe that he knows where most of the bodies are buried over the last years.

[00:20:43] He's probably been paying an awful lot of attention.

[00:20:44] So maybe by attacking him in advance, they're setting it up to discredit him when he gets on to Owen,

[00:20:51] so that all the information he's going to drop and all the bombs he's going to drop and all the people he's going to go after.

[00:20:55] They could say, well, of course he's saying that because he's trying to come after us because of what he did when he statutorily raped that girl.

[00:21:02] Isn't that maybe potentially what they're doing?

[00:21:04] They're trying to get some early discreditation where they can go, well, of course he would say something like that.

[00:21:09] We know that's not true.

[00:21:10] He's just going after so-and-so because he went after him for that case.

[00:21:14] Maybe that's the plan.

[00:21:16] I hope that's the plan, and that's really the reason I spend so much time on this is, look, folks,

[00:21:21] I believe they have violated his fundamental constitutional rights.

[00:21:24] And why do I say that?

[00:21:25] Because he's innocent until proven guilty is the fundamental understanding in America.

[00:21:28] And you've literally got an unconstitutional government agency literally releasing these details on this guy,

[00:21:37] and they're claiming there's substantial evidence.

[00:21:39] But I don't know what substantial means in the light of they don't have the evidence to convict.

[00:21:45] They don't have even the evidence to file charges.

[00:21:48] They've all been dismissed, right?

[00:21:50] So how do you continue this?

[00:21:52] It's like the Donald Trump thing.

[00:21:53] How do you continue this when the facts are clearly contrary?

[00:21:59] And the answer is witch hunt.

[00:22:00] And the longer they persist in this, we need to start to expose these clowns for who and what they are.

[00:22:05] And, Matt, I support you in doing so.

[00:22:08] Again, I'm not defending your mistakes, buddy.

[00:22:10] But I am telling you that I stand for your idea that I believe in this simple, powerful principle of change and repentance.

[00:22:17] We can change, folks.

[00:22:18] People can change.

[00:22:20] And if he didn't know that she was a minor, now, I mean, I guess you should ask?

[00:22:25] First off, you shouldn't be involved in these kind of situations in the first place, right?

[00:22:28] But, I mean, do you really expect Matt Gaetz to ask her, hey, are you 17?

[00:22:33] Can I see your ID?

[00:22:35] Can I?

[00:22:36] What I'm saying is I'm not saying the whole scenario is good at all.

[00:22:40] I'm just saying, circumstantially, how do you call that statutory rape?

[00:22:44] The answer is they're using this and the manipulation of the law, the jaunt and tittles of the law, to destroy someone based on public opinion, based on walking to the very edge of presenting everything you want to present, to make it appear as if he's guilty instead of innocent in the court of public opinion.

[00:23:02] It's a violation of constitutional rights, and I hope his lawsuit continues forward.

[00:23:05] And I hope he gets with James O'Keefe and everybody else to expose these clowns.

[00:23:10] It all starts now, and I think they've gone too far on this one, gentlemen.

[00:23:14] So I encourage Matt.

[00:23:18] I agree.

[00:23:19] Any last thoughts, Lance?

[00:23:20] No, I just think it's time to drop the hammer on all of them.

[00:23:23] And I think Matt just needs to take off the gloves, do what's necessary.

[00:23:27] And, of course, if they're guilty of libel and slander, then I say take the court case, move forward, drop the hammer.

[00:23:37] Well, then I got a question, though.

[00:23:38] What point when you destroy someone's character because of the different definition of celebrities and famous people, Matt Gaetz, certainly a celebrity, certainly a famous person, certainly a legislative leader, now a media leader, you kind of got to ask yourself a question.

[00:23:55] What if it's not, quote, to the level of libel and slander because of the different definitions?

[00:23:59] You lose rights when you become famous, right?

[00:24:03] But what level have we crossed constitutional lines?

[00:24:06] Have we violated principle?

[00:24:08] And I think the answer is clearly yes.

[00:24:10] But, hey, let's go after Bill Clinton.

[00:24:13] Okay, let's go after Jeffrey Epstein.

[00:24:14] I know he's not here, but we can go after all the connections he had.

[00:24:17] Whatever happened to that?

[00:24:19] When we get back, we'll talk about Justin Trudeau under major pressure from his own party, urging him to step down.

[00:24:28] Donald Trump said, hey, why don't you just go away and why don't we just make Canada state 51?

[00:24:35] Let's talk about this, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:24:37] That, the Panama Canal, Canada, Mexico, Greenland.

[00:24:42] We'll get into it in seconds on your radio.

[00:24:59] We'll get into it in seconds on your radio.

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[00:26:00] A Dutch court has sentenced five men to anywhere from six months prison to 100 hours of community service.

[00:26:06] Punishment for their roles in violence surrounding a soccer match last month involving an Israeli team.

[00:26:12] The prosecutor said that a hatred of Jewish people was not to blame for the hit and run attacks, which is why none of the suspects was charged with terror offenses.

[00:26:20] Instead, the men were found guilty of committing or aiding and abetting public violence.

[00:26:25] A number of them physically assaulted Maccabi Tel Aviv fans.

[00:26:29] Others sent messages in a WhatsApp group encouraging attacks against people of Jewish descent and the visiting supporters.

[00:26:36] The sentences raged from six months in prison to a community service order of 100 hours.

[00:26:42] The BBC's Anna Holligan in Amsterdam.

[00:26:45] Famine is reported to be spreading across Sudan amid relentless war between the military and a notorious paramilitary group.

[00:26:53] It's devastated the country, creating the world's largest displacement crisis.

[00:26:57] News and analysis.

[00:26:58] Townhall.com.

[00:27:00] There's a warning about the Internet and AI.

[00:27:03] Researchers and watchdog groups are concerned about the emergence of generative artificial intelligence tools that allow people to efficiently produce detailed and novel online reviews.

[00:27:13] They say this has merchants, service providers, and consumers in uncharted territory.

[00:27:19] Phony reviews have long plagued many popular consumer websites such as Amazon and Yelp.

[00:27:24] But tech industry experts note that AI-infused text generation tools enable frosters to produce reviews faster and in greater volume.

[00:27:33] Correspondent Jeremy House.

[00:27:35] A NASA spacecraft has made a record-breaking visit to the sun.

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[00:29:01] Regrets?

[00:29:02] Oh, we're all going to happen.

[00:29:04] Doesn't matter who you are or what you do.

[00:29:06] At some point, you're going to wish you'd done something differently.

[00:29:10] You know, the woulda, coulda, shouldas.

[00:29:13] But let me tell you a couple of things you'll never regret.

[00:29:17] You'll never regret spending extra time talking to your teenager.

[00:29:21] Trust me.

[00:29:22] You'll never regret answering your three-year-old's question about where the water in the bathtub comes from.

[00:29:29] And I've never seen anyone wish they hadn't sat in the kitchen laughing with their children and telling them goofy stories about when they were kids.

[00:29:40] Yeah, sure.

[00:29:41] We're all going to have regrets.

[00:29:43] But talking too much with our kids won't be one of them.

[00:29:47] No matter what you talk about, love is what they'll hear.

[00:29:50] A thought from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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[00:30:15] Well, welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live with your host, Sam Bushman.

[00:30:19] Of course, the Big MIG Show team, Lance Migliaccio and George Valentin along for the ride today.

[00:30:24] And Merry Christmas and happy holidays, everybody out there.

[00:30:27] So, listen, I like Trump's moves here, Sam.

[00:30:30] You know, he's talking about the acquisition of Canada, the Panama Canal and Greenland.

[00:30:36] I say go for it.

[00:30:37] What do you think?

[00:30:38] Well, it depends on how you go for it.

[00:30:41] I think there's ways to go about that.

[00:30:42] You know, we're not a predatory nation.

[00:30:44] The problem is that the world already thinks the United States is a hegemonist nation,

[00:30:49] just basically gobbling up everything in its wake.

[00:30:51] We've toppled governments.

[00:30:52] We've done all these things throughout the years.

[00:30:53] So that's a problem.

[00:30:54] I don't have any problem growing the United States, our footprint, our influence,

[00:30:58] especially when it comes to key strategic waterways and or, you know, in Greenland, for example.

[00:31:04] You know, you gain some control of, you know, who crosses into which hemisphere and everything else.

[00:31:10] And so there's some real value there as long as we do it right, meaning we don't just conquer and steal land and stuff like that.

[00:31:16] As long as we, you know, hey, purchase it.

[00:31:17] And that's what Trump's talking about.

[00:31:19] I'm not saying he's not.

[00:31:20] I'm just saying, you know, I don't have a problem with it, especially when it comes to the Panama Canal.

[00:31:23] We should have never gave that sucker away in the first place, Lance.

[00:31:26] There is no doubt.

[00:31:28] And let me tell you something for the listeners out there.

[00:31:30] People really may not know what the impact of that was, but they have driven the fees to pass through the canal through the roof,

[00:31:37] which has directly impacted the cost of goods that are getting transported through there.

[00:31:41] So I agree with you.

[00:31:42] Number one, Panama Canal never should have been given up.

[00:31:45] But I'll be honest with you.

[00:31:46] The way that Trudeau is screwing up Canada, I'd love to see Canada be part of the United States.

[00:31:51] We could worry less about predicting that border across the Great Lakes, you know, which, of course, we know there's lots of stuff coming in there illegally.

[00:31:59] The cartels are taking a pretty big control position up there.

[00:32:02] That's number one.

[00:32:03] Number two, incredible amounts of fresh water, crazy amounts of natural resources.

[00:32:07] I like the Canadian people.

[00:32:09] And, you know, my feeling is that the U.K.'s influence in Canada should be put to an end.

[00:32:14] I'm tired of the monarchs of these.

[00:32:18] Well, you're right.

[00:32:19] And half of it speaks French, to make your point, right?

[00:32:22] Exactly.

[00:32:22] So I say let's do Canada.

[00:32:24] I'm all about that.

[00:32:25] I'm not sure about the value of Greenland, but okay, I'll go along with that plan.

[00:32:28] I definitely agree with the Panama Canal.

[00:32:30] I know the president of the Panama Island is very happy about it, though.

[00:32:34] He's made some really public statements about it.

[00:32:36] So we'll see where that has to go.

[00:32:37] George, what do you think?

[00:32:38] Why didn't he turn it over to China when we gave it to him then?

[00:32:40] I mean, come on.

[00:32:41] Yeah, exactly.

[00:32:41] What side are you on, buddy?

[00:32:42] Where do you stand?

[00:32:44] Let's take names and kick some butts here, George.

[00:32:48] I say so, too.

[00:32:50] Let me see.

[00:32:51] Let's start with the Panama Canal.

[00:32:52] Well, 1977, the Senate that gave it gradually back to Panama, they should have never did that

[00:32:58] in the first place.

[00:32:59] And now you have so much Chinese influence over there that, I mean, it's a national security

[00:33:05] threat to us.

[00:33:06] So we should take it back.

[00:33:08] I don't know what's the procedure in doing it, but hell, let's just take it back.

[00:33:13] As far as Canada, hmm, let's see.

[00:33:17] Alaska are other states right there, so why not make it a state?

[00:33:20] Screw this.

[00:33:22] Get rid of the French over there.

[00:33:23] I like it.

[00:33:24] But hold on.

[00:33:24] But before we officially make it a state, we need to send Ton Holman over there to get

[00:33:29] rid of all those illegals that Trudeau let in, because we can't have that in another one

[00:33:36] of our states.

[00:33:37] Well, and then you got to ask yourself, would it really be one state or would it be several

[00:33:40] states?

[00:33:40] Right.

[00:33:41] And the place is huge.

[00:33:44] I say go for one big state.

[00:33:48] Let's make it one big state.

[00:33:49] I agree with George.

[00:33:50] We don't have to struggle to get to Alaska anymore.

[00:33:52] Now we're just blowing through, doing our thing, and we can get to Alaska if we need

[00:33:55] to.

[00:33:56] Yeah, the smaller the states, then they'd have more representation in Congress and stuff.

[00:34:02] Hold on.

[00:34:03] No, no, no, no.

[00:34:04] So let me stop you right there, Sam.

[00:34:07] We don't want to make it more than one state, because right now we don't know how many liberals

[00:34:10] really are there.

[00:34:11] And if you make it more than one state, that means they have more senators.

[00:34:14] No.

[00:34:14] Well, that's not allowed.

[00:34:16] Only two senators.

[00:34:17] That's the point.

[00:34:17] All right.

[00:34:18] Yeah.

[00:34:18] No.

[00:34:18] So one state.

[00:34:19] Then the question becomes, hey, the Constitution is supposed to call for a certain amount of

[00:34:23] Congress critters per population size.

[00:34:25] I know we don't even obey that in our own reality right now.

[00:34:29] But that's something to consider, too, right?

[00:34:32] Yeah, no doubt.

[00:34:33] I think there's a lot to consider.

[00:34:34] But I like the Canadian idea.

[00:34:36] I got to be honest with you.

[00:34:37] I thought about it many times because I think, wow, this would be a really good plan.

[00:34:40] Let's just get Canada.

[00:34:42] Maybe we should make it like Guam, a territory.

[00:34:44] Yeah.

[00:34:45] Well, a lot of people have floated that idea out there, you know, about Canada before.

[00:34:48] And I've always been like, yeah, let's go.

[00:34:51] Canada.

[00:34:52] You think the UK is going to give it up?

[00:34:53] Give Canada up?

[00:34:54] No.

[00:34:55] No, no, no.

[00:34:56] But they might not have a choice.

[00:34:59] Exactly.

[00:35:00] Part of the discussion of the problem.

[00:35:01] Do you buy it?

[00:35:02] Do you make it, as you said, a territory?

[00:35:05] Do you make it, you know, what do you do?

[00:35:08] And I don't really like all these kind of no man land kind of territories and weird

[00:35:14] land grabs.

[00:35:15] Look, either treat the people right.

[00:35:17] For example, Puerto Rico, turn it into a state or cut it loose.

[00:35:20] Now you say, Sam, turning it into a state is way too expensive.

[00:35:22] That's just horrible.

[00:35:23] They don't have anything.

[00:35:24] They don't bring anything to the table.

[00:35:25] And you might be right, but you can't have it both ways.

[00:35:28] You either got to give them, you know, a fair shot at being, you know.

[00:35:33] Well, they didn't want to be a state.

[00:35:34] Or you've got to let them.

[00:35:35] Well, then let them be their own country then.

[00:35:36] But don't keep them in this no man's land.

[00:35:38] Yeah, but don't you think that's because the IRS has its primary address there?

[00:35:43] Yeah.

[00:35:44] Well, shut that sucker down, too, and you won't have to worry about that anymore.

[00:35:46] I agree.

[00:35:47] I agree.

[00:35:48] But that's probably why it's been caught in the no man's land middle ground of territory

[00:35:53] of the United States, but not a state.

[00:35:54] Well, the reason it's done that is because it has to have this weird status where nobody

[00:35:57] – the reason it has this is because it's got this overlapping status.

[00:36:00] You go to Congress and they say, oh, that's the president's purview or that's the court's

[00:36:04] purview.

[00:36:04] And you go to the courts and they say, oh, Congress has to decide that.

[00:36:07] And they just go round and round dodging the bullet of the truth, which is that it has

[00:36:10] no authority and needs to be shut down.

[00:36:12] But look, I'm hoping Doge runs that sucker to ground and shuts it down right away.

[00:36:17] They probably won't, but I pray they do.

[00:36:19] I mean, Doge has definitely got their hands full, but that means they also have to focus

[00:36:23] on what?

[00:36:23] North Marianas and Guam.

[00:36:24] Aren't they still territories in the United States?

[00:36:26] Yeah.

[00:36:27] Remember?

[00:36:27] And then what about all the Indian reservations, too?

[00:36:29] They're kind of weird countries within the United States, but they're not really

[00:36:32] countries, but they're kind of sovereign nations.

[00:36:34] Yeah, the Indian reservations are sovereign nations.

[00:36:36] So it really becomes...

[00:36:38] To some degree.

[00:36:39] Yeah, to some degree.

[00:36:40] There's no doubt.

[00:36:40] Based on the law, they're supposed to be completely sovereign, right?

[00:36:45] Based on the law.

[00:36:45] Yeah.

[00:36:46] But of course, they always...

[00:36:46] And that's my problem is that the games we play are amazing.

[00:36:51] But look, we'll see what happens with Canada.

[00:36:53] We'll see what happens with Trump Renew's bid to buy Greenland.

[00:36:57] Now, that's very interesting because as far as I understand, there's a lot of military

[00:37:01] and space war discussions relating to Greenland, interestingly enough, which backs us into

[00:37:06] this drone discussion.

[00:37:08] Well, Greenland does have vast natural resources.

[00:37:11] They have a lot of uranium.

[00:37:13] Yeah.

[00:37:14] Rare earth minerals.

[00:37:15] They also have, I don't know, a lot of natural gas and offshore oil.

[00:37:21] So we all get our investment back.

[00:37:24] I think it's worth it.

[00:37:25] Why not?

[00:37:27] It's worth it.

[00:37:28] The problem is you got a fine line between just, hey, we're going to take over your country

[00:37:32] versus we're going to work out some deal.

[00:37:34] And I favor kind of like the Louisiana purchase, right?

[00:37:37] No, they're going to buy it.

[00:37:38] They're not going to...

[00:37:39] We can't just...

[00:37:39] We're not going to be...

[00:37:40] No.

[00:37:40] How would you look just taking Greenland?

[00:37:42] No.

[00:37:42] You buy it.

[00:37:43] They could buy that.

[00:37:44] It's for sale.

[00:37:45] Yeah.

[00:37:46] Make them an offer to Camel Town.

[00:37:48] Make them an offer.

[00:37:49] Exactly.

[00:37:50] At the end of the day, I'm game for all these.

[00:37:52] Let's go.

[00:37:52] Let's go.

[00:37:53] Let's expand the U.S.

[00:37:54] It's time.

[00:37:54] Let's make a move here.

[00:37:56] Let's get rid of Trudeau.

[00:37:57] I mean, gosh.

[00:38:00] He's a love child of Fidel Castro anyway.

[00:38:03] Let's make the move here.

[00:38:05] Well, let's just...

[00:38:06] If we're going to dress down Matt Gaetz, we can at least have Trudeau take a DNA test,

[00:38:11] right?

[00:38:11] I agree.

[00:38:12] I think for sure.

[00:38:13] I'm going with that he is the love child of Fidel Castro.

[00:38:16] That's my take on it.

[00:38:17] I saw the way Trudeau's mom was looking at Fidel.

[00:38:21] I think it was game on.

[00:38:25] He's on his way out the door anyway.

[00:38:27] I mean, let's face it.

[00:38:29] His days are numbered.

[00:38:30] His own party wants him to get rid of him.

[00:38:32] Like, there's, what, over 50 liberal members in parliament from Ontario, and that's the most

[00:38:38] populous of provinces.

[00:38:39] And that's the main party stronghold.

[00:38:42] And they want him.

[00:38:43] They agree to have to have him step down.

[00:38:44] And there's a conservative now, leader Pierre Polivari, who is likely going to win.

[00:38:52] Yeah.

[00:38:53] I'm all over, let's make Canada great again.

[00:38:55] Let's go.

[00:38:56] Let's go.

[00:38:57] All right.

[00:38:57] Listen, the Canadians, let me tell you something.

[00:38:59] The Canadians would want to be part of the United States.

[00:39:01] You know, I don't know why?

[00:39:02] Because the healthcare system sucks.

[00:39:05] Hey, I'm with you, George.

[00:39:07] And listen, I want all those natural resources, and I want all that fresh water.

[00:39:11] I'm all about it.

[00:39:12] And I like the Canadian people.

[00:39:13] I like the Canadian people.

[00:39:14] I like Montreal.

[00:39:15] Well, there you have it.

[00:39:17] Yeah, beautiful.

[00:39:18] We're awesome.

[00:39:19] Prediction time.

[00:39:20] In Trump's next term, four years, do we further that Canada discussion?

[00:39:28] What happens with the Panama Canal?

[00:39:30] What happens with Greenland?

[00:39:32] What happens with all this different stuff?

[00:39:34] What do you think?

[00:39:35] Any predictions from you gentlemen for next year?

[00:39:37] You know, I don't know how to predict any of it.

[00:39:40] I think the Panama Canal is a serious situation because of the way it's been managed and the

[00:39:45] way they turned it over to China like they did.

[00:39:46] So I think that is most likely going to be a pushed agenda.

[00:39:50] How Panama deals with it, I have no idea.

[00:39:52] I think the American public, if we were not and polled, I think Canada is game on.

[00:39:56] I think everybody would love to have Canada be part of the United States.

[00:39:59] So it comes down to the Canadian people and what the legality of that is.

[00:40:02] What do I think is going to happen?

[00:40:03] I don't know.

[00:40:04] Trump's going to have his hands full.

[00:40:05] I don't know if Canada is going to be the focus.

[00:40:07] Greenland?

[00:40:08] I think the American public isn't as excited about Greenland.

[00:40:11] I don't really.

[00:40:12] I've never been to Greenland personally.

[00:40:13] You know, and I've been to a lot of places in the world.

[00:40:15] I've been over 70 countries.

[00:40:17] I have to tell you that I've never made Greenland a top stop for a number of reasons.

[00:40:23] Come on.

[00:40:23] Maybe I'm missing something.

[00:40:25] George, I mean, let me ask this.

[00:40:26] George and Sam, what's good about Greenland?

[00:40:28] Somebody sell me on Greenland and maybe I'll change my mind.

[00:40:31] George already told you all the natural resources that you have no idea of.

[00:40:34] Plus it's a big military slash issue with the stars and the space program and everything else.

[00:40:40] There's a lot there.

[00:40:41] It's kind of like Area 51 on steroids over there in Greenland, they claim.

[00:40:45] So that plus a lot of natural resources makes the game, Lance.

[00:40:49] Has Greenland actually come out with a price?

[00:40:51] Am I missing something here?

[00:40:52] No.

[00:40:53] No.

[00:40:54] They say it's not for sale.

[00:40:55] But as George wisely points out, everything's for sale, right, George?

[00:41:00] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:41:01] I think it's for sale.

[00:41:04] Yeah.

[00:41:05] It's going to be for sale.

[00:41:06] Listen, you've got to look at Trump.

[00:41:07] I mean, if Trump talks about things.

[00:41:09] Maybe Elon Musk will buy it for the U.S.

[00:41:11] Maybe he can buy Greenland for the U.S.

[00:41:12] He's got more money than he has.

[00:41:14] If Trump is talking about it, all you've got to do is fire that out like Donald Trump Jr. did

[00:41:18] about buying MSNBC or buying Twitter and then Elon will reply that.

[00:41:23] I think he's going to buy CNN.

[00:41:24] Yeah.

[00:41:25] How much?

[00:41:26] Listen, if Trump is talking about it, that means he has his sights set on it.

[00:41:32] And you know Trump.

[00:41:33] If he has his sights on it, he's going to do it.

[00:41:35] But it also means there's more likelihood of reality to it than we think.

[00:41:40] Let's talk about Panama Canal.

[00:41:42] Hold on.

[00:41:43] Hold on.

[00:41:44] It also means, though, that if Trump's talking about it, and this is what I find really about

[00:41:48] Donald Trump that you cannot ignore.

[00:41:50] Oftentimes he talks about something and people just go, oh, my gosh, Trump's off out in the

[00:41:53] weeds.

[00:41:53] But then six months, a year later, it comes up and it was a thousand times more real than

[00:41:58] you thought it was.

[00:41:59] That's a pattern, Lance.

[00:42:01] Yeah.

[00:42:02] I mean, listen, there's no doubt.

[00:42:03] But, you know, a lot of times I have to say this when Trump floats things out there, it

[00:42:07] is part of his agenda.

[00:42:08] George is right.

[00:42:09] Then maybe maybe maybe there's things that he knows that we don't know.

[00:42:12] Maybe maybe we're a lot closer on something with Canada.

[00:42:15] Maybe we're a lot closer on something with the Panama Canal.

[00:42:17] Now, I know the Panama president wasn't doing it because I'm sure he's getting lots of kickbacks

[00:42:21] that nobody know about from the Chinese government.

[00:42:23] I'm sure he is very unmotivated about it.

[00:42:25] But maybe Trump's going to figure out a way to motivate him, because at the end of the

[00:42:28] day, I don't think we can continue to allow the Panama Canal to be managed and run the

[00:42:33] way it's being done now, because the prices are just going to continue to be increased,

[00:42:36] increased, increased, increased.

[00:42:38] And if they don't just shut us off entirely from using it, Lance.

[00:42:42] Yeah.

[00:42:42] And the cost of goods here in the United States are already through the roof.

[00:42:45] And you're right.

[00:42:46] It very well could happen.

[00:42:47] So I think he's strategically it makes sense.

[00:42:50] Greenland, you know, looking it up strategically, Greenland makes sense.

[00:42:55] And so who knows?

[00:42:56] Maybe the Greenland people, maybe he'll convince them in one way or the other.

[00:42:58] The opportunity is there.

[00:43:00] The question is, can Trump close the deal?

[00:43:03] That's the question.

[00:43:03] Is he the dealmaker we believe him to?

[00:43:05] And can he close a deal on all three of these?

[00:43:07] The trifecta of expansion.

[00:43:09] I like it.

[00:43:10] George, you want to talk about the Panama Canal, huh?

[00:43:14] Well, yeah, I mean.

[00:43:16] Let's talk all about the corruption there, the drugs that come through there.

[00:43:19] Let's not forget, even though the Darien gap, right?

[00:43:22] It's not by the Panama Canal, but it's part of Panama.

[00:43:24] And they just keep allowing these migrants to cross through there to come to our country.

[00:43:29] So you know what?

[00:43:29] Payback.

[00:43:30] We need to take over the Panama Canal and put a strong presence there.

[00:43:35] Yeah, it's a modern day by land or by sea, huh, George?

[00:43:38] Yes.

[00:43:39] By land, by sea, by air, whatever.

[00:43:41] We're taking it.

[00:43:43] All right.

[00:43:44] We'll keep an eye on this ball.

[00:43:45] But I just found it very, very interesting.

[00:43:49] Now, a couple of other things.

[00:43:51] Argentinian president.

[00:43:54] What's this guy's name?

[00:43:55] Javier Mili?

[00:43:56] Mili.

[00:43:58] La fuera, la fuera, la fuera.

[00:44:00] He balanced the budget, baby.

[00:44:01] One year.

[00:44:02] Yeah.

[00:44:03] He's going to the inauguration of Donald Trump as well.

[00:44:05] Yeah.

[00:44:06] Maybe give him some pointers.

[00:44:08] What do you think of that, Lance?

[00:44:10] That's interesting, right?

[00:44:12] Listen, everybody likes him.

[00:44:14] He's extremely popular on social media.

[00:44:16] Look how quickly he balanced the budget.

[00:44:19] Look how quickly he turned their economy around.

[00:44:22] He's a popular guy.

[00:44:24] I like his theory.

[00:44:25] And I like what we're seeing around the world, that we're getting this flip-flop of leadership

[00:44:29] that matches what's happening here in the U.S.

[00:44:32] Is it the great awakening, Sam?

[00:44:33] That's the question.

[00:44:34] Are we going to see more of this where conservative-minded, pro-country leadership is going to be put in

[00:44:41] place and it's going to turn countries around?

[00:44:43] I think we're going to see a lot more.

[00:44:45] I think you're going to see a temporary resurgence in America first.

[00:44:50] A temporary resurgence in slimming down government, getting a lot of things on track.

[00:44:58] Doge is going to get a lot of good credit.

[00:45:00] Trump's going to make a lot of great moves.

[00:45:02] Temporarily, things are going to be better.

[00:45:04] I think all that's true.

[00:45:05] I think at the end of the day, though, I don't see things getting better for one reason, gentlemen.

[00:45:09] Because the nation's a wicked people.

[00:45:11] We don't turn to God.

[00:45:12] We're not a repentant people, for the most part.

[00:45:16] We care more about money and our idols, our cars and our possessions than we do God.

[00:45:23] You know, there was a lot of Christians who tried to help, for example, with the hurricanes and all this kind of stuff.

[00:45:28] And all government did was shut half those people down.

[00:45:31] The intrepid pursued the best they could.

[00:45:33] But, you know, hey, the government is stopping righteous people from doing good things.

[00:45:37] Eventually, more and more in your agency will be restricted.

[00:45:40] More of your life will be monitored and controlled, whether it becomes through digital currency or all the above.

[00:45:47] They will absolutely, and we need to be really careful of this, when they talk about government efficiency,

[00:45:53] I don't want an illegal government program to become more efficient.

[00:45:56] I don't want a more efficient IRS.

[00:45:58] I want that sucker shut down and gone.

[00:46:01] And so we need to be very careful with words here.

[00:46:03] But we need to understand, hey, if we're going to be a wicked people and not have the blessings of the Almighty,

[00:46:08] we're in trouble, and it might temporarily feel better because they'll make some good moves in a lot of ways.

[00:46:13] But at the end of the day, I don't see it getting better because I don't think people are looking in the right places for solutions.

[00:46:18] I just did a video.

[00:46:18] I don't know if you guys know this.

[00:46:19] Back in June, Tennessee governor literally signed like a proclamation or whatever you want to say,

[00:46:28] a resolution that the state put together, and it was we're going to pray to God Almighty and fast for 31 days for our state

[00:46:34] that we can choose righteousness and do it.

[00:46:36] Anyway, nobody knew about that back in June.

[00:46:39] Well, I just did a video on it bringing that back to life and saying, hey, why doesn't Donald Trump call on that for the whole nation?

[00:46:46] We can focus on doge and focus on all these things and expansion and whatever.

[00:46:51] But unless we literally start to look to God, it's going to be feckless.

[00:46:56] Sam, Sam, if Trump does that, the other side is going to say, oh, what are you trying to starve the people?

[00:47:02] You know, fasting for 31 days, even though I know what fasting is, but that's the narrative.

[00:47:05] I want to take a step back here because I want to go back to Mealy real quick because he balanced the budget,

[00:47:13] but everybody's missing the big thing here.

[00:47:15] He has ended Argentina's deficit for the first time in 123 years.

[00:47:22] That's huge.

[00:47:24] That's why I say sit down with those while he's here.

[00:47:26] Yeah, right?

[00:47:27] And then I don't know why Georgia Maloney's coming.

[00:47:30] Maybe she wants to talk to Musk on the side, you know, fangirling over him, but she's coming too.

[00:47:36] Did you know that?

[00:47:37] Yes.

[00:47:38] It's very, very interesting.

[00:47:39] Are you guys going to go to the inauguration?

[00:47:44] I'm not one to be standing outside in the cold for hours.

[00:47:47] Come on, George.

[00:47:48] This is historic, buddy.

[00:47:50] I need to get a knee replacement, Sam.

[00:47:51] So I shouldn't be anyway.

[00:47:53] Well, I'll get you a wheelchair, buddy.

[00:47:54] I'll push you around.

[00:47:58] Why?

[00:47:58] You're going?

[00:48:00] No, not a chance on the earth.

[00:48:01] I'm not going.

[00:48:02] Why?

[00:48:03] Because they'll probably throw me in jail.

[00:48:04] It'll probably be January 6th all over again, gentlemen.

[00:48:06] Plus, you know, it's expensive.

[00:48:08] Like, I don't know how much the ticket is.

[00:48:11] Yeah, that's right.

[00:48:12] Are you going, Lance?

[00:48:13] If you can't get the comp tickets, which we know that all the senators and congressional members are given a certain amount of comp tickets, but those tickets are used for their, you know, their most valuable constituents.

[00:48:25] You know what I'm saying?

[00:48:26] The people that made the biggest contributions to their campaigns, the people that carry the most influence.

[00:48:30] So the free tickets are almost impossible.

[00:48:32] They don't get Matt Gaetzed.

[00:48:35] Yeah.

[00:48:35] They're almost impossible to obtain free tickets.

[00:48:36] There's three different tiers of tickets, by the way.

[00:48:38] Did you know that?

[00:48:38] Three different tiers?

[00:48:39] Yes.

[00:48:40] Yeah, I did know.

[00:48:41] Yeah, like the big one is like the full VIP back, you know, the access and all that.

[00:48:45] I think it's like $150,000 a ticket.

[00:48:48] I had tickets like that to the 2016 inauguration.

[00:48:51] Did you know that, gentlemen?

[00:48:52] I did not know that.

[00:48:53] I literally got two of my buddies.

[00:48:54] Did they get media passes?

[00:48:55] I got two of my buddies, and I gave the passes to them, and I didn't take them myself, but I'm the one that got the passes.

[00:49:01] And I literally put James Edwards and a buddy of his.

[00:49:04] They could have literally spit on Donald.

[00:49:06] They were that close.

[00:49:08] We can get media passes, right?

[00:49:11] No, it's hard, but you can.

[00:49:13] It's hard.

[00:49:14] Yeah.

[00:49:15] Everybody news media.

[00:49:15] What are you talking about?

[00:49:16] It's hard.

[00:49:16] All right.

[00:49:17] I'll get you the credentials.

[00:49:19] You go ahead and figure it out and file and get it done and get them back and stuff.

[00:49:22] I'm just telling you that it's hard.

[00:49:24] I'm not saying we couldn't get them.

[00:49:25] I'm just saying it's hard to get.

[00:49:26] I mean, I live four hours away.

[00:49:27] I can stay over there by my aunt and uncle's house.

[00:49:29] So, I mean, you lay it.

[00:49:31] I tell you what.

[00:49:32] George is getting set to go, Lance.

[00:49:33] Hold on.

[00:49:33] You're going to be left behind, buddy.

[00:49:35] We're going to put this on the radio and listeners right now.

[00:49:38] Sam Bushman, you give me the media pass?

[00:49:41] And you give me the credentials and the media pass?

[00:49:43] I'm going and I'm representing.

[00:49:45] Now it's on you.

[00:49:47] All right.

[00:49:47] Email me your picture.

[00:49:49] We did already.

[00:49:50] And I will have this created.

[00:49:53] I'll email you my picture right now.

[00:49:55] All right.

[00:49:56] We'll go ahead and get this done.

[00:49:57] We'll get you a media pass.

[00:49:58] We'll make this happen.

[00:50:00] We're a legitimate news network.

[00:50:02] We literally appeared at the 2016 Donald Trump inauguration.

[00:50:06] We appeared at the Republican National Convention.

[00:50:09] I literally had a booth inside.

[00:50:11] CNN was bringing me water.

[00:50:14] And I was right across from CNN, Microsoft, and ABC, and everybody else.

[00:50:18] And I had a booth.

[00:50:19] Alex Jones couldn't get in.

[00:50:21] I was there live, baby.

[00:50:22] That's how it is.

[00:50:24] And we can go again.

[00:50:25] It's just a lot of dollars.

[00:50:26] And the other problem is, well, they go ahead and throw you in jail because you, you know, that's the problem.

[00:50:33] Throw me in jail?

[00:50:33] Why?

[00:50:34] Just because.

[00:50:35] You were a drip of water on the flood that day, buddy.

[00:50:41] Oh.

[00:50:41] I don't know if you know.

[00:50:42] There's 1,500 people in jail over January 6th right now.

[00:50:45] Most of them didn't do a thing.

[00:50:47] And they're still arresting people.

[00:50:50] Wait.

[00:50:50] Hey, I'm going to have an invitation to be there.

[00:50:52] Different.

[00:50:54] Well, I hope you're right.

[00:50:56] Many of those people say, hey, I only went into the Capitol because the cops said I could go in.

[00:51:03] Well, that's your first mistake.

[00:51:05] First mistake is listen to the, well, let's not get into that.

[00:51:09] That's too much to get into it.

[00:51:09] Listen to the cops.

[00:51:10] Okay.

[00:51:11] That's what I mean, though, is that you never know where the lines and the boundaries are.

[00:51:14] See, we've followed as a country so far, gentlemen, that you can't really know where you stand.

[00:51:22] Anyway, now Ford is donating a million dollars in a, quote, fleet of vehicles to Trump's January inauguration.

[00:51:33] Own Newsroom has this piece.

[00:51:35] Elon Musk.

[00:51:36] All these different people are putting in millions of dollars for here, there, everywhere.

[00:51:39] All these big tech people and all these vehicle companies and everything else, they all want to get in on the inauguration now.

[00:51:44] Millions of dollars going in.

[00:51:46] Lance?

[00:51:47] Well, I mean, they're all trying to kiss the ring because we know they all put money into the other side of this campaign.

[00:51:55] They all went for the woke DEI agenda.

[00:51:59] Ford among them.

[00:52:01] So it doesn't surprise me what's going on here and what their attempt is to maybe try to straighten things out in advance of him taking his position.

[00:52:11] I don't know.

[00:52:12] I don't know if it's going to work.

[00:52:13] You know, Trump is a New Yorker and New Yorkers have long memories.

[00:52:17] I mean, I can think of people I still have an issue with from years ago.

[00:52:21] I'm trying to be a good guy, but I have to be honest.

[00:52:23] Sometimes my mind goes there, Sam.

[00:52:27] Well, it's the kind of thing where folks, I believe it's our job to provide proper leadership.

[00:52:33] And I'm not here to attack anyone.

[00:52:35] I'm here to always stand on the right side of a principle.

[00:52:37] See, I don't need to pick friends and foes and be on this side and that side.

[00:52:41] And I need to always stand on the right side of a principle.

[00:52:43] And then I'm right every time.

[00:52:44] And that's why I say, hey, Matt Gaetz, if he's guilty of something, prove it and convict him.

[00:52:48] If he's not, then quit playing games.

[00:52:50] Leave him alone.

[00:52:52] Justin Trudeau, your own party wants you to step down, buddy.

[00:52:54] The sooner you do that, the better.

[00:52:56] When it comes to reclaiming the Panama Canal, let's get her done.

[00:52:58] We should have done that yesterday.

[00:52:59] We should have never given it away in the first place.

[00:53:02] I don't even think we should have built it, by the way.

[00:53:04] I know we built it for economic reasons, but all we did was create a national security crisis.

[00:53:08] And if anybody ever gets control of that passageway, it just means armies are on our shores and they never could have got here otherwise.

[00:53:16] Because they would have had to go all the way around the horn.

[00:53:18] We would have been able to take care of business far away from American homeland.

[00:53:22] But, you know, so now they've changed that and it goes on and on.

[00:53:26] Now we talk about this, hey, renew bid to buy Greenland.

[00:53:29] I send more power to them.

[00:53:30] I say the more we can peacefully make America larger, more resources, it's a good thing if done correctly.

[00:53:39] But everybody and their dog is donating a ton of money to this inauguration.

[00:53:43] And it's interesting.

[00:53:44] Everybody wants in, George.

[00:53:47] It's funny, right?

[00:53:48] Everybody wants in this time.

[00:53:49] The first time they didn't.

[00:53:50] I mean, just look at all the tech CEOs.

[00:53:54] Bill Gates.

[00:53:59] All I know is this.

[00:53:59] Last time they say there wasn't a big crowd there, but they're lying to you.

[00:54:02] I was there, buddy.

[00:54:04] Oh, it was packed.

[00:54:05] It was packed.

[00:54:06] It's going to be huge even now.

[00:54:08] It was huge in 2016.

[00:54:08] I was there in person, baby.

[00:54:10] Wait until 2028 when he gets his other term.

[00:54:13] How big it's going to be.

[00:54:15] All right.

[00:54:16] Do you support a third term for the Donald?

[00:54:17] Well, he never really got a legitimate first term.

[00:54:20] You know, they sabotage it, so he's just going to do over.

[00:54:23] No, they're already sabotaging the second one.

[00:54:25] He'll never end.

[00:54:26] He'll turn into a king.

[00:54:28] All right.

[00:54:28] Hour one of the can, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:54:29] We've got to stand on the principles every time.

[00:54:32] Merry Christmas to you from us, the Liberty Roundtable and the Big Big Teams.

[00:54:36] Hour one of the can, two coming up.

[00:54:38] God save the republic.