Radio Show Hour 2 – 06/24/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, this is the Liberty Roundtable and yours truly Sheriff Mack along with Sam Bushman bringing you the news that no one else wants you to know.

[00:00:37] And we have a guest right along that line, a very dear friend of mine and someone who is to me a national hero. When I first saw Dr. Simone Gold in front of I think it was the United States Supreme Court building, she brought in a dozen or more, about 15 or 16 doctors from all over the world.

[00:01:00] And they were telling everyone that COVID back then, it was called coronavirus, and that this movement for vaccinations and lockdowns and masks was a farce and a lie. She was way ahead of the curve. She had the guts, the courage, the leadership, and the professional duty to let everybody know the truth.

[00:01:28] And she did, and wow, was she ever attacked. Dr. Simone Gold, thank you so much for being on the Liberty Roundtable today. Welcome. I think this is my first time joining you. Thank you for inviting me. Dr. Gold, it's Sam Bushman, and I just want to say to you that I commend you for your stance. Everywhere you've gone, you've stood for truth and freedom and for the American people.

[00:01:54] You've used your wisdom, your integrity, and your desire to really help people. I mean, the doctor's creed is to first do no harm. And you've been 20 years plus a former board-certified emergency physician. And then you became the author of the best-selling book, I Do Not Consent, Ladies and Gentlemen, My Fight Against Medical Cancel Culture. That's really what they do whenever you stand up for your real beliefs, don't they?

[00:02:24] Absolutely. And, you know, I write and I speak publicly because I want to encourage everybody to do a little bit more in their daily life. Maybe you're not a doctor, maybe you're not a lawyer, but you're a mom or you're a teacher or you're a police officer. But within your own life, don't self-censor, push back, assert your constitutional rights. That's actually how Sheriff Mack and I first met, is I noticed what he had done many, many years ago to assert the constitutional rights that we had to bear arms. And I remember thinking, wow, that's a person who understands how important it is to fight, you know, even if you're just a single person getting it going.

[00:02:55] So I just want to encourage everybody to, you know, keep asserting your constitutional rights in your daily life and to live joyfully while doing so. Amen. And so tell me what came first, your book, I Do Not Consent, or the American Frontline Doctors, AFLDS.org? Yes, it's a very fun story, Sam. I was a completely anonymous, board-certified emergency physician right up until the time the SARS-CoV-2 kind of started circulating around the world.

[00:03:23] But I saw so much lies and propaganda and disinformation, a lot of it by our federal government, that I started speaking out. And that is what Sheriff Mack just referred to when America's Frontline Doctors, about 20 of us stood on the steps of the Supreme Court in the summer of 2020. And from that moment on, I was heavily targeted. You know, half the nation loved me, half the nation hated me, but I was always a truth teller, whistleblower, et cetera. And that first book I did, I Do Not Consent,

[00:03:52] is I tell the story of what happens when an ordinary bedside clinician just refuses to go along with policies that are killing patients. I will not consent to that now, yesterday, or tomorrow. And that's the beginning of a marathon. And let's be very clear, to you at first it wasn't political, it was a medical stance, right? Not at all. I want to be clear, even to this day, it's not really political. I am portrayed as political because it suited people who wanted to stop us. But there is no political litmus test to be a frontline doctor.

[00:04:21] It used to just be following the Hippocratic Oath. So I aligned with physicians who put patients first. It is true that most of us are politically conservative because we understood the threat to the individual. The newest book I did has an epilogue, like an afterword, which explains how the public health system is really in direct opposition to individual well-being. So it happened that people who were attracted to the Hippocratic Oath and helping people, right, the doctor-patient relationship,

[00:04:49] happen to be more politically conservative because we are concerned for the individual. But no, we are not actually political. We are nonpartisan. And I want people to understand that because it's the first do no harm. It's the Hippocratic Oath. It's the desire to help people. I mean, that's what drew you to the profession to be involved in the first place. Why do you think the establishment is so against that? Is it money? What really drives that, doctor? I love that question. There's actually multiple reasons.

[00:05:18] I outline this in my next book, which we'll mention in a moment. But it has to do that there's some people that are just useful idiots, right? That would be most of the media. The media just says things because that's where their paycheck is. That's kind of where their ideological slant is. There are people who have truly nefarious goals. Those would be the Klaus Schwab people of the world, right? But that's the minority. And then there's just people with financial interest, deep financial interest, right? And that would be big pharma. The problem, what's gone wrong, it's a very deep question and answer.

[00:05:48] What's gone wrong is a lot of these interests are now moving in the same direction and with the leftward direction, right? So the useful idiots, the financial interests, the truly nefarious, they all had kind of the same kind of global financial interests, and there's worldwide instant communication. All of that became exceedingly powerful, and up against that was the most discriminated minority of all, which is the individual. So our founding fathers built this amazing constitution, which is the thing that is a bulwark against a very strong government

[00:06:18] and even worse, a one government world order. So my answer is there were multiple motives all going in the same direction, which was left combined with worldwide instant communication. And that's it. And they all came arrayed against Trump, for example, and they all became arrayed against me. I was standing up against big pharmaceutical and big insurance. It was a lot. Sheriff?

[00:06:44] Well, I've got to say, Sam, my daughter and I were both watching the news when Dr. Gold held that press conference in front of the – and I was right to remember that it was in front of the United States Supreme Court. And how many doctors were there that day? About 20, about 20, maybe 25. Yeah. And it looked so impressive. And to hear you and other doctors warning the American people

[00:07:12] about the dangers of trusting government to make these health decisions for us was absolutely amazing and miraculous. And the courage that all of you showed, and especially you as you were the leader of the entire movement there, it was so amazing. I wanted to tell you something. But then something happened. Pardon the pun.

[00:07:40] She set the gold standard that day, Sheriff. Yeah. Yes, she did. She definitely did. What happened when you went to January 6th at the U.S. Capitol? I know you said – So I was – Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Please tell the story about that. Right. So I was present on Capitol grounds on January 6th, 2021. I was there, ironically, not being political.

[00:08:08] I was probably the only person in D.C. that day that wasn't being overtly political. But you could go and protest if you want. But I happened to be there because I was an invited guest speaker with a government-issued permit to speak. And since I had been so heavily censored all over the nation since that white coat summit on the steps of the Supreme Court, I accepted all invitations I could to speak in person. I was invited to speak on January 6th on the Capitol grounds, and I accepted because I knew it would be an enormous crowd.

[00:08:37] When I presented myself at the designated location, inexplicably, they did not let us speak. I was due to speak with three other congressmen and about 15 other people, and we all had about five minutes. And the day didn't go that way. We know there was a lot of nefarious actions that day. And I was just a one person who was caught in the middle of many, many thousands of people. And I was standing on the steps of the Supreme Court when the doors swung open from the inside. And I basically fell. Hold on.

[00:09:06] I want you to say that one more time, Dr. Gold, because this is vital to understand. Go ahead. The doors swung open from the inside, right? Yes. And I want everyone to know that there's videotape of all of this. It's all on videotape, which I've seen and anyone can see. I'm standing on the steps. There's thousands of us. The doors swung open from the inside, and I personally fell over the threshold. You can see that I almost fall because there was such a crowd surge behind me

[00:09:36] that pushed me into the building, all on videotape. Once I'm inside the building, I do what I do, which is I think, well, I'll just speak publicly. I have my speech in my hand. All the videotape captured of me shows me holding my speech. And inside the Capitol, I give my freedom, my medical freedom speech, constitutional speech twice. And then a police officer asks me to leave, I guess because people were really listening to me. And then we wait to exit.

[00:10:06] And that was my entire time in the Capitol. It goes without saying. Of course, I'm a nonviolent person. I didn't touch anything. I didn't do anything. And that was it. That was my experience on Capitol grounds on January 6th, 2021. But then the entire weight of the federal government came after me. It was dramatic. And what... I was... Yeah. Go ahead and skip the break. This is just too good. What on earth, when they came to you and said,

[00:10:35] what were they accusing you of? I guess you were just at the wrong place at the wrong time. What is their excuse for a literal... Look, a doctor with credentials, speaking about freedom with a permit to speak, going to speak with other congressmen, so not kind of an erroneous or... Hey, completely legitimate in every way. Peacefully done. Willing to leave when asked. What was their excuse to say you were a problem that day?

[00:11:06] This is emphatically to send a message to all Americans that you need to get in line. Obviously, I didn't do anything worthy of anything. I wrote my next book called Selective Persecution. You can get it on Amazon, but I mention it now because everything that happened to me was so over the top, was so aggressive on behalf of the federal government, there is no justification. The only charge that was potentially applicable, and I want to remind everybody, I'm a lawyer as well as a doctor,

[00:11:35] the only charge that was potentially relevant to my actions that day was trespass, and even that didn't qualify because I didn't have the criminal intent on the mens rea for trespass. But at least you could imagine that trespass was relevant. Everything else they charged me with was utterly irrelevant, and I break it down in the book to show how the government spun this web to charge people like me, nonviolent, politically opening our mouths against government policies,

[00:12:04] in my case about the Constitution and medical freedom. And the government charged me with a 20-year obstruction of justice charge that was 100% so inapplicable to January Sixthers, it had to do, it's a technical accounting statute from 20 years earlier relating to the Enron scandal, and the government charged 350 people like that. I was one of them. They actually charged Trump with that, they charged other people with that, and it was such an erroneous overcharge

[00:12:32] that it was reversed at the Supreme Court in 2024, and you ask yourself, how does the government charge someone like me with a 20-year felony if not to send a message to chill our citizens from speaking out? Well, and we're hoping Kash Patel is going to dig into this and really get to the bottom of that accountability and who pushed that agenda and who criminally put all that in place and attacked citizens, violating due process and more. But I want to challenge even the idea that you trespassed.

[00:13:01] And the reason I say that is the doors were open from the inside. You were literally pushed over the threshold by the crowd, so you didn't even willingly enter, although you probably thought it was fine to do so because the doors opened from the inside. But when you were there then, when you were asked to leave, you queued up and were willing to even leave. How in any stretch of the imagination can you call that trespass? So I want to answer with precision. It 100% was not trespass. I said the only thing that was remotely, potentially applicable

[00:13:29] because the other things they charged me with were hysterically irrelevant. Of course. Protesting and picketing and all that. But I break down how, of course, I didn't even trespass. You have to go as a lawyer and I walk people through it. It's entering and remaining. The statute is entering and remaining. I didn't enter voluntarily. You can literally see me falling over the threshold being pushed by the crowd. And I couldn't exit. But the moment an officer asked me to leave, I attempted to leave and I waited patiently for 20, 25 minutes,

[00:13:57] all caught on CCTV waiting to leave. So the entering was involuntary and the remaining was involuntary. Of course it wasn't even trespass. But there you go. It's just beyond me, Sheriff, how we get there, though. And it just shows that there's two classes. There's the elite thugs and there's the rest of us. Selective persecution is the name of Dr. Gold's book. And it basically says the legalization of American fascism. Dr. Gold, quote, it's my story.

[00:14:28] It's my story about how speaking the truth got me in trouble on January the 6th, right? Yes. I want everyone to read this because it's every chapter is something else that happened to me due to my COVID whistleblowing. But mainly my experiences on January 6th and what the government does to a citizen if the citizen steps out of line. The California Medical Board attacked me. The New York Bar attacked my law license. I never told you this, Sheriff or Sam. I was framed for narcotics.

[00:14:57] I was framed for narcotics. Yep, that's an entire chapter. It's unbelievable what was done to me. I was targeted by Congress. I had to deal with Congress. Basically, they tried to hold me in Congress. That was a 15-month fight. So these stories are unbelievable. I talked about my time in prison. I've got to add something there, Dr. Gold. Did they accuse you of being the one that dropped the cocaine in the White House?

[00:15:27] Exactly. It's so unbelievable. The thing about being the framed for narcotics that they attempted to do to me, the most kind of in a way, the most interesting part is there's actually no record of it from the government's perspective, at least that I could find. But there were four witnesses, video, and pictures of it. Right? So I show all of this, all of this in the book. But there's no court official record of it. It's wild stuff. And you ask, you know, Sam, you said this wasn't even trespass.

[00:15:57] Not only wasn't it a trespass, it was a misdemeanor. And do you know anybody who's gone to prison for a misdemeanor? No. Especially federal prison. Only the patriots for political persecution in modern times. Other than that, I don't know. No. Certainly not. Right. And not only that, I was sent to what is equivalent to a maximum security prison. Yeah. So we know that there was some funny business behind the scenes that riggered,

[00:16:25] jiggered, putting J6 nonviolent people in very dangerous situations. And you wonder to yourself, does the government want us to be killed by other people? You know? Yes. That's me. Well, she's absolutely correct about something, Sam. And this is another remarkable thing about Dr. Gold. She has a law degree. How many people in this world have a medical degree and a law degree? And I was so impressed.

[00:16:54] Well, it reminds me of that country song where they're like, where they hope their daughters will become doctors and lawyers and such. And boy, howdy, did she get them both done? Yeah, she got them both. But I've talked to her about this before. And we've had lots of conversations about this. And I did not know about the charge. You're absolutely correct, Dr. Gold. We haven't talked about that. I did not know about the drug-related charge. But another farce of our government under the Biden administration, obviously. And it was so corrupt. And to me,

[00:17:23] it's the greatest threat to America. And that's government corruption. And it's all over the country. It's in Hawaii. It's in California. It's in Maine. It's horrible. And we've got to do something. And that's what we're working with or working on at the CSPOA. But there was no criminal intent. And I said this over and over about your charge and people who had criticized you. And I said, let's get this straight. She was due to speak there.

[00:17:53] And that's all she did. And that's all she tried to do was exactly what she was supposed to be doing there. And so when anybody wants to charge you, you have to be, to have even a trespass charge, you have to willingly be there to remain unlawfully. That was never your intent. And as a matter of fact, there's a Capitol Police officer while you're giving your speech standing right next to you. And I guess he's trying

[00:18:22] to be a little respectful and wait to tell you that you had to leave until after you finished your speech. That's exactly right. So this video, the videotape of all of it, and the sheriff is absolutely right that the basis of law in a well-run society goes back to common law, which is you have to have the intent to do something. If you bump into somebody, that could be assault and battery, right? But if you're blind and you bump into somebody, there's no intent.

[00:18:51] You didn't see the person. There's no intent. Men's Rhea is the critical common denominator in almost all crimes, certainly in trespass. When you read the trespass statutes, like entering and remaining, it's that you knew you entered, you knew you remained, you knew you didn't belong, et cetera. It's always about the intent. Of course there was no intent and our government just ran roughshod over the citizens. And it was from top to bottom. It was the U.S. prosecutors I outlined. I showed proof. By the way, there's hundreds of references

[00:19:21] in this book because I'm tired of people saying that I don't speak exactly. You know, they like to say I wasn't speaking the truth about COVID. Everybody knows I was. But I give so many references to the facts. You know, there's videos, there's links. But the judges, the prosecutors lied. I gave very specific examples of who lied, when, and what they said. The judges were completely corrupt. The Bureau of Prison was corrupt in putting me

[00:19:49] in a worse position. I mean, I outlined it all. It's like a John Grisham novel. Really, I encourage people to read it. It is not boring. It's shocking. Oh, and just for fun, because we went past it fast, but I have a whole chapter on COVID and the COVID lies and Anthony Fauci and who said what and who did what. I mean, if you want, like, the details on the lies that were told. And, you know, a lot of people in 2023, 24, 25, they're trying to say, I didn't say that. Oh, yes,

[00:20:19] you did. And I have the receipts and they're all in the book. Ladies and gentlemen, the book is called Selective Persecution. And listen, the legalization of American fascism. Dr. Gold says, it's my story, how speaking the truth during COVID-19 made me public enemy number one and how the government used its full force against me. I don't know if I should call you doctor or attorney or both, but let's just say Dr. Gold. Do you know

[00:20:49] where this is coming from, though? Who has such control of the United States to obliterate all due process of law, to obliterate all checks and balances and literally call the shots like a thug communist dictator? Where are the origins of this? Did you discover that in writing the book? Yes. No, for sure. I actually named specific people who were instrumental. Here's one example. You could never have conceived the complexity of the 20-year felony with which we were charged because it was a highly

[00:21:18] technical accounting felony. It had to have been conceived months earlier. You could never have conceived it within the days following January 6th. So, for example, on that particular one, there's a felon named Andrew Weissman that I believe is the architect behind that. That is certainly my opinion. I give reasons why. So I think there's a lot of people who are interested in like a one world government sort of order and then there's a lot of other people who are kind of manipulated to go along with it or financially motivated. I've said for a long time the big pharma

[00:21:47] runs the federal government, not the other way around. So certainly big pharma has a lot of interest in this. You may not realize this, but the medical industrial complex dwarfs the military industrial complex. It's about 20% of our GDP at this point. Military is 4% to 5%. So there's a lot of financial interest there. There's a lot of regulatory capture. I absolutely name names. And we're just happy we have a different administration at this moment who's pushing back. And, you know, we're really blessed as much as he's gone through so much heartache and pain.

[00:22:17] Our president, he lived, my story is very much like his on a lower scale because this is very unique, but he has lived the weaponization of our government. But the elite people, I think one of the reasons the hatred came out for me so hard is because by all definitions, I was the elite, right? I went to Chicago medical school. I graduated when I was 23. I went to Stanford Law School best position. There's like maybe 3,000, 4,000 MDJDs in the nation.

[00:22:47] When I graduated medical school, I was the youngest doctor in the country, right? I belonged to the elite. And yet I stood up and I spoke out against him and the elite is furious. The elite is furious. So it's the education in the Ivy League institutions that are training both leaders in America to hate America. That's a huge component of the problem. But I name names in the book who I think is responsible. Yeah, it's kind of like the mafia, the elite. You know, who does she think she is to defy us? Dr. Gold with us, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:23:16] We're talking about COVID. So you got the Fauci facade and I kind of want to understand this too. We've already exposed Fauci's facade and the lies and the COVID con and everything else to the point of, you know, they know we're right now. How come Fauci is not in prison though? I mean, aren't we going to go ahead and have accountability for Fauci and some of these other people that perpetrated all this? My understanding is he's chilling out in Italy. I've said forever, I don't think Fauci is going to be held accountable. I think he's put a lot of layers between him and the justice.

[00:23:45] But I also want people, there are options, right? States can go after him. He got that federal pardon by the auto pen. We'll see. I don't think he's going to be held accountable. That's just my judging in the world. But if you read chapter six in this book, you're going to be astonished to find that COVID was Fauci 2.0, AIDS was Fauci 1.0 and it was all the same tricks that he's been doing for 40 years. I pray Fauci goes to prison. I predict, I predict Dr. Simone Gold, our guest, is correct.

[00:24:14] There will not be. Because remember, the book is called Selective Prosecution. Need I Say More? Get your copy at Amazon back in seconds. I want to talk about RFKGR. Will he change the game in a positive way? And then we'll turn it over to the sheriff for some commentary as well. Hang tight, ladies and gentlemen. It's a one and only special interview on Liberty Roundtable Live.

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[00:30:13] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable radio talk show. The Good Sheriff, Richard Mack, cstla.org and yours truly continue on your radio with our special guest, doctor and attorney, Simone Gold. This is the must-have, her new and latest book, Selective Persecution. Yeah, we're talking about

[00:30:43] America fascism. It's been legalized, ladies and gentlemen, and people are being persecuted. Right before the break, I mentioned, I agree, Fauci probably won't pay for his crimes because it's selective persecution. I pray we will make a difference, though, Dr. Gold. Do you think RFKJR is going to make a big difference? He had a big splash. He's right on a lot of points. Do you think he'll be able to realize a change in America that will bless physicians and we the people to be more healthy and truly look at things honorably?

[00:31:12] Yes, and I'll just start with something humorous. Just take a look at Rachel Levine and take a look at Bobby Kennedy and see how you'd like to look okay, so this is a man who is inciting the system. He's a Kennedy and he went up against the system for at least 30 years now. He went up against true environmental poisons. He went up against actually a lot of things in big agriculture and he's delivering on what he said. Now, people have short memories and they want more than maybe anybody can deliver in an immediate but even when

[00:31:43] the mainstream press was saying, oh, these children died of measles which was not accurate. They did not actually die of measles. There's more on that. He told people vitamin A is really important. He told people that mandates are never going to be the way we go. He is making a difference right now. I have a lot of faith in him. It's absolutely going to make a difference. All right, Sheriff? Well, yeah, Sam, and there's another person from AFLDS that was also arrested, John Strand.

[00:32:12] What did they get him on? Oh, my goodness gracious. Gotcha. So, so John Strand refused to take a plea. I'm so sorry. John Strand refused to take a plea. We were charged with the same thing, trespass, essentially, and everybody in our situation took a plea because we were facing a 20-year felony. I'm a pretty tough customer, Sheriff, you know that, and even I blinked. I said, I can't be facing a 20-year felony. I can't be facing loss of my licenses, and I blinked

[00:32:42] and I took the plea. John Strand said, I will not take a plea. I will not take a knee. I will not say something that's not true. The judge threw the book at him, gave him almost four years in prison. He was essentially tortured in prison, four months in isolation, and he was released and vindicated at the Supreme Court. So he did exactly the same as me. He was working with my security guard that day. So if anything, he had less culpability than me. So I ask you, if you have a constitutional right to have a trial, then how can you

[00:33:11] give me 60 days, which is disgusting, right? But how can you then give somebody else in my situation almost four years, the person who was working for me, right? His story is outrageous. I have to tell everybody, I so admire John Strand. And John and I have had some real serious talks lately, and I think he's another, just like you, a national hero. He refused to take the deal. He refused to go along

[00:33:40] with their subterfuge and their corruption. And he ended up paying for it and he went to prison. What was he in? Three and a half, four years before Trump finally He was sent for three and a half years and then the Bureau of Prison put him in isolation for months. They didn't let the lawyers speak with him. They didn't let him get mail. All of those things are illegal by American law. It's outrageous. Well, I hope there's a big lawsuit of class action against the federal government

[00:34:10] and it's not the ones that we want to be held accountable. And back to what Sam was saying, I want the people held accountable that did this. Now, Fauci already got a pardon from Biden, but you're correct. Any of the state charges, that doesn't cover that. And I would love to see that. It needs to happen where the people who did this to you and to John and to hundreds if not thousands of others and that not one time did the FBI

[00:34:40] go pick somebody up from around the country and do it correctly and constitute. There are specific reasons and indications when you use a SWAT team arrest. We didn't need any of them. So whoever ordered that needs to be brought up. Now, a couple of bad guys just because I like to name names. Merrick Garland is the mob boss. Merrick Garland was the attorney general who authorized all of these things. And U.S. prosecutor Jason Manning. Jason Manning lied repeatedly. Repeatedly. You want to come sue me, Jason Manning?

[00:35:10] Come find me. Dr. Gold, America's Frontline Doctors. You lied repeatedly in court. These are the people that need to be held accountable. Yes. Yeah, it starts. I would like to see it start with Biden, but yes, Merrick Garland is absolutely a part of this. But, well, and I said this all along, even when, before Biden took office. He is not mentally competent to stand trial. I've said that for five years. And now we have...

[00:35:40] Who is signing for him? Who is signing for him? Who is doing the autopilot? And those people need to go to prison and Trump and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi and everybody else need to get to the bottom of that. Sadly, they're running out of time and we pray for them and they'll get it done. We're about out of time with Dr. Gold, folks, so I got to kind of move this along. Support America's Frontline Doctors. We are your freedom, medical freedom organization. We help various litigants

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[00:37:09] you guys are crazy and now we seem to want to adopt it wholesale. Thank God for Tennessee standing up and thank heavens for AFLDS.org standing beside them and more. You also need to tell us about this incredible SCOTUS delivery. It's a historic ruling in the United States. Yes. Well, there's been several. I mean, like, we're starting to push back like the judges are getting pushed back. The judges that are trying to think that they're as important as Trump and they get to say that to stop his immigration policy,

[00:37:39] no, the justice is fine. I said, no, that's not true. You know, the executive, the president gets to make these decisions. We had a lot of good stuff. That's one. Could I mention one other thing? Next week on July 1st, goldcare.com, goldcare.com declaring a medical independence with the country music patriot, John Rich. That's amazing. If you want to find out how to get medical freedom in your own life, it's free to the public. goldcare.com declaring a medical independence.

[00:38:08] All right. And this medical ruling that I'm talking about where SCOTUS delivered, they're basically saying, hey, you can actually get ivermectin where they said it was horse poop and everything else. By the way, it saved my life. We've been over that. But this is critical though because the court agrees with us after this whole time. We're getting vindicated everywhere, aren't we? Are you aware that ivermectin won the Nobel Prize in medicine in 2015? The RFDA, how shameful. RFDA said it was horse medicine knowing that it won the Nobel Prize. I mean, if you win the Nobel Prize and you still can get smeared

[00:38:38] by your federal government, I guess I'm in good company. Well, it just goes to show who should be prosecuted for that lie too because they know full well it was a lie, right? Yeah, for sure. For sure. And by the way, at least 75% of the people who died from SARS-2 who got very, very sick and they went into the hospital with severe COVID and died, at least 75% of those people shouldn't have died because early treatment was very effective. You had to catch it early. It's a biphasic disease, meaning the first 10 days

[00:39:07] was kind of one disease, but then if you got, if you recovered in this first 10 days, you actually did fine. But if you were sick longer than 10 days, many of those people got very sick and some of them went to the hospital and a lot of them died. Okay, at least three quarters of those people wouldn't have died if they had had access to early treatment like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. It's such a scandal. Dr. Simone Gold, everybody, aflds.org. How's the best way to keep up with what you're doing? That website? Yes,

[00:39:38] please follow me on x, Dr. Simone Gold. You'll be up to date. Please consider becoming a member, subscriber, donor to aflds.org. I will come back next time you ask me. There's so much good stuff. Goldcare.com. You can find me. There you have it. Dr. Gold, thank you very much. We'll chat soon. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. Thanks, Dr. Gold. The good sheriff's going to stay. Dr. Gold's got to fly. She's got other meetings, but she's taken plenty of time for us and we're so grateful for that. And sheriff, you know,

[00:40:08] when you talk to people like that, you get hope for the country. You just do. Yeah, you really do. And what happened to her and John Strand and many, many others of the victims of this horrible government crime. I mean, I just, my hat's off to them. I bow to them. I am just so amazed that she and others were able to survive, especially with the horrible conditions that they received at the hands of our corrupt federal government under the Biden administration.

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[00:43:34] from Dr. Simone Gold, available now at Amazon and all fine bookstores near you. Dr. Gold says, it's my story, how speaking the truth during COVID-19 made me public health enemy number one and how the government turned its full force against me. It's amazing that that can even happen in America, Sheriff. And that's really the big takeaway. I mean, I'm startled that this is even possible to happen in the country that our founding fathers

[00:44:03] bled and died and sacrificed so much for and now in our day we see this and it's just like, wow. And I fear for after Donald Trump's out of office what's going to happen. Well, you see, I do too. That's really a scary situation. It's scary to me that Donald Trump could get so much support and he won in an amazing historic victory because there's only

[00:44:33] been twice that a president served a term and then skipped and then served another term and that's Grover Cleveland and Donald J. Trump. And Trump's probably even more so just because that he was charged criminally with about 50 felonies and this one-sided anti-justice system that went after him going after him with violations of the Eighth Amendment.

[00:45:03] No excessive fines or bail and they were obviously doing that. They were obviously fabricating things against him and he still wins the presidency. But what's going to happen to him now at the midterms next year, I think that the Democrats are going to make a huge comeback. I don't get it. I don't understand it. Maybe because that's another sign that there is election fraud. But

[00:45:32] presidents historically don't do well in their midterms. Well, especially if they don't deliver on most of the things they promised. I mean, we were supposed to cut spending and now we're just on the verge of a supposed big beautiful bill to increase debt by $5 trillion. Rand Paul, many other people, Mike Lear against it and everything else and they're supposed to pass it by July the 4th. It's not going to happen. Right now they're trying to mix, you know, getting rid of the pro-death agenda of funded abortion in that bill. I mean, I pray that that gets done. They need to take these things as separate bills and they haven't

[00:46:02] learned their lesson. I know. I know. And again, just political positioning all the more. And yes, defunding Planned Parenthood needs to be its own bill. You can't have 20 really good things and then throw that in there and mucky it up with that. because then you vote for things you disagree with 100%, but you really want this done. And that's what they always do. And that's why a big, beautiful bill is an absolute boondoggle failure. But I want to move to Michelle Obama

[00:46:32] really quick. Michelle Obama, quote, I'm so glad that I didn't have a boy. She confessed. And when Martinez on the show pushed back and said, oh no, it'd be wonderful. I'd be taken by the boy. It'd be awesome. Obama noted and said, why? Because he would have been a Barack Obama. Obama. I mean, what an absolute attack on your husband. I mean, Obama's considered one of the most, you know, whatever top men in the world or whatever. And his wife who knows him

[00:47:02] intimately and personally said, oh no, we don't want another one of them. what an indictment, Sheriff. Yeah, and maybe it's because the rumors are that he's an in-the-closet homosexual. I don't know if he is. Don't really care if he is. He's not a good person. I don't care about the others. Yeah, WND.com did the most research on that and they've documented it pretty well, actually. Yes. But this is typical

[00:47:32] of Michelle Obama. she's always been really stupid. She doesn't know how to speak in public and yet she would have been the President of the United States had she run against Trump. More than likely she would have been the President. I pray you're wrong but I bet you're right. Yeah, but hopefully we'll never have to find out. Amen. But the problem with this whole thing is is that she's very much indicating

[00:48:01] to the world that she is just married to him for political convenience. It's the same thing with the Clintons. It was the same thing with FDR and was Eleanor and she was very popular just like Michelle Obama. But very struggled mentally ill life as well, right? Exactly and we don't know who Barack Obama was.

[00:48:32] His upbringing and even where he was born is a huge controversy still today. I thought Donald was going to find out the truth on that for us. If we're going to release classified information let's find out about the birth certificate, shall we? Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice? Because we don't want to be dubbed as birthers. It's about really, hey, you know what? What's the truth? Was it a forged birth certificate? I think clearly Joe Arpaio proved the answer was yes. So we need to deal with that. By the way, we're all

[00:49:02] being surveilled. Ron Paul wrote an incredible column called The Ugly Surveillance Tape and he documents this thing called Palantir. P-A-L-A-N-T-I-R Palantir. It was founded in 2023. It has been helping our general government collect and store information about U.S. citizens. The company was named after the whatever and Lord of the Rings and all that kind of stuff. And it's a

[00:49:31] huge, huge surveillance system against us all, Sheriff. This is something we need to be aware of as well. And Ron Paul's exposing it. We need Cash, Patel, and Donald to get on this one. Well, some people have asked me, how could they be monitoring millions and millions and millions of us? They would have to have millions of employees doing that. No, they don't. You see, all of this is done electronically and it's fed into a computer and it's all saved there. So if they ever

[00:50:01] need anything on you or on me or my wife or my brother-in-law or you and I don't even know, it doesn't matter. All they have to do is punch in your name or your social security number and they can pull anything and everything out about what we've ever said, done, or where we've been. They must have a big old file on Sam Bushman then because I've got more of what I've said in the public eye than probably anybody on the planet. That's right.

[00:50:31] Wow. Anyway, they say this organization they call this venture capital firm is controlled by the CIA Sheriff. Well, of course it is. The one agency that probably more than any other agency, the IRS is close, that doesn't answer to anybody. They do whatever they want. There's credible evidence that they've been part of assassination attempts throughout the world. There's

[00:51:01] very what rudimentary evidence or just speculation that they had something to do with the death of JFK. And that's been talked about ever since the assassination happened. But yet they do whatever they want. And it's all in the name of national security and international security. And they're out there playing their games. And they were part

[00:51:31] of an assassination attempt on Fidel Castro. So how you could trust them to do anything is rather astonishing. And another sign of what you and I have said is the greatest problem facing America, and that is our own government corruption. And they're a huge part of it. You know, I don't know where to go with this kind of stuff,

[00:52:00] because you really had hoped that the Trump administration would change the game. And maybe our expectations are just way too high. But man, they've got to stop these government spying apparatuses, these government, you know, hey, they've got the finger on the pulse of every communication we have and this and that, because once it gets in the hands of somebody like Joe Biden, or maybe worse, somebody competent, just imagine if Barack Obama or somebody like that took over the next one. And these people are so evil and so, I just, I fear for what's going to happen

[00:52:30] if we don't disassemble this stuff and fast, Sheriff. Yeah, for sure. So, we're doing everything we can at the CSPA to counter that, to have sheriffs who are knowledgeable on the Constitution and what's really going on in our country, and that they stand to protect people from the corruption that has taken over our Constitutional Republic. And I pray that

[00:53:00] the sheriffs of this country will see and understand their role in preserving America. Yeah. And the best way you can help, ladies and gentlemen, is to become a member of the Posse today. We need your funding, we need your involvement, you've got to join us, America's growing posse today, and help take America back one county at a time. And if there's enough of us, we can put enough political pressure. We literally got rid of that sheriff in Florida that was going to be the leader

[00:53:30] of the DEA. We literally helped the Cash Patel get in office. There's a lot of things we can do, and the more members we have, the more funding we receive from your membership, from using the materials to help educate your sheriff and local law enforcement people in your area, the better we are, the stronger we become. We need your support, CSPOA.org. Sheriff Mack, we'll chat soon. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you, Sam. See you soon, brother. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the one and only Liberty

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