Radio Show Hour 2 – 12/23/2024

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[00:01:17] Happy, happy, what do they call this thing, Adam Eve?

[00:01:22] Christmas Eve tomorrow night, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:01:25] We're going to play this show on Christmas Day as well, though, because, man, is it good.

[00:01:29] We got betrayed in 1913.

[00:01:32] Yeah, this day in history, December 23rd, 1913.

[00:01:37] The Federal Reserve was unconstitutionally criminally passed into law and signed by Woodrow Wilson.

[00:01:43] It's been a disgrace ever since, 111 years ago today.

[00:01:46] They always betray us at Christmas.

[00:01:48] Shame, Biden signs the stopgap spending bill as well.

[00:01:52] Shame on Trump for trying to basically put an elimination or a delay of the debt ceiling in provisions to stop spending.

[00:02:00] And what's going on, ladies and gentlemen?

[00:02:02] Anyway, they passed it.

[00:02:03] It's a sad tale to tell.

[00:02:05] Well, we then talked about the Panama Canal with Dr. Scott Bradley.

[00:02:09] It was given to Panama and the people of Panama.

[00:02:12] Trump threatened to reclaim it.

[00:02:13] I don't think we should have built it in the first place, much less gave it away.

[00:02:18] Getting it back is probably the right idea.

[00:02:20] The question is, how do you go about it and how do you prevent a world war when you, you know, now it's falling into the hands of the communist Chinese?

[00:02:25] That's a serious problem indeed.

[00:02:27] Anyway, Dr. Scott Bradley, Sam Bushman, back with you live.

[00:02:31] Our guest today as well, Mark Tapscott.

[00:02:34] He's an award-winning veteran investigative journalist.

[00:02:38] He's a senior congressional correspondent with the Epoch Times.

[00:02:44] Congress is who he focuses on, spends time with.

[00:02:48] Wow, that would be an interesting fly on the wall for me experience to watch Mark interact with the members of Congress on this thing.

[00:02:55] What do you hear behind the scenes versus what comes, you know, makes it to press time, if you will.

[00:03:00] Mark, welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live, sir.

[00:03:02] Merry Christmas to you and your family.

[00:03:05] Well, Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.

[00:03:09] All right.

[00:03:10] It's hard to know where to start on this thing.

[00:03:12] I want to get into Doge a bit here.

[00:03:16] You know, Havik Ramoswamy, Elon Musk, Basley, and Doge, they're going to go ahead and restrict spending and everything else.

[00:03:22] And one of the first shots across the bow they've kind of said is, hey, you know, if you work for the government and you're kind of at home, eh, we're not going to do that.

[00:03:30] You're going to go into the office or, you know, sayonara to you.

[00:03:33] And I don't think that it's the right approach in my humble opinion.

[00:03:37] We can get to that in a minute.

[00:03:38] But break this down for us.

[00:03:40] Some of the Congress representatives are speaking out about this as well.

[00:03:43] Joni Ertz being one of them, right?

[00:03:45] Yes.

[00:03:45] Joni Ertz, Senator Joni Ertz from Iowa, has been especially vocal about it.

[00:03:50] She's been tracking it and talking about it for more than a year.

[00:03:54] Her basic point is, based on the research that her staff has done, if you go into the typical federal office in Washington, D.C. on a work day these days,

[00:04:08] only about 10 to 15 percent of the full-time paid employees are actually present working.

[00:04:14] The rest are predominantly working from home, officially, at least that's what they claim.

[00:04:22] But there's no way to verify that, you know, they're actually producing work that the taxpayers need to have done.

[00:04:30] I disagree with that, but let's continue.

[00:04:33] Well, I suspect there's a number of things that could be said in disagreement with that.

[00:04:40] But that's her point.

[00:04:41] And her point further is, as it is with President Trump, President-elect Trump, seems like he's president already.

[00:04:52] Well, that's because you've got Joe Biden derelict in his duty and vanished from reality, and therefore you've got to have somebody step in.

[00:04:59] Either it's going to be the deep state or Trump, right?

[00:05:02] Oh, absolutely.

[00:05:03] Absolutely.

[00:05:04] But Trump is saying, you know, we're going to say on day one, if you don't show up for work, you don't work for the taxpayers.

[00:05:13] And I can assure you there are millions and millions of Americans who will say, absolutely, that's exactly the way it ought to be.

[00:05:20] Oh, you're right.

[00:05:21] If I don't show up for work, if I don't show up for work, I don't get paid.

[00:05:26] Right.

[00:05:27] And the point about, you know, working is vital, the point about where I disagree with this, I don't disagree with the general point to say you've got to be working or you don't work and you're gone.

[00:05:36] I get that concept and agree a thousand percent.

[00:05:39] The reason that I reject the at-home discussion is because I believe people are actually more productive at home.

[00:05:45] Studies show a lot of productivity from home.

[00:05:49] It saves, you know, driving into work.

[00:05:51] It's less traffic on the roads.

[00:05:53] It's less office space necessary.

[00:05:55] We can go on and on and on about it.

[00:05:57] But here's my quintessential point, which is this.

[00:06:00] Hey, if you can't measure somebody's work, if you can't measure it, then the work they're doing is not valid enough to matter and they need to be gone anyway.

[00:06:09] I don't care whether they work at home or in the office.

[00:06:11] Gone.

[00:06:12] If I can't measure what you're doing for me, sir, in some meaningful way that's productive, then I don't need you.

[00:06:18] And if I can measure it, then I need to measure it not based on whether you walk around the water cooler and talk about sports and try to pick up on the chick in the other office or whatever.

[00:06:29] I'm going to measure the work that you're doing for me.

[00:06:31] If you're a video producer, I'm going to see how many videos you crank out and how good they look and how much traffic I get from my social media guy promoting those videos.

[00:06:39] And I can go on and on and on.

[00:06:40] But what I'm saying is I'm going to measure productivity, not where you appear or, you know, whether you buy lunch for your colleagues or whether you sit in an endless boring meeting droning on for three hours and call that work.

[00:06:51] Or, okay, I want productivity.

[00:06:54] And there's ways to measure productivity.

[00:06:56] And nobody can tell me there's not.

[00:06:57] I've been working from home and managing teams for way too long for that lie.

[00:07:01] Yeah.

[00:07:02] Yeah.

[00:07:02] Listen, Sam, I absolutely agree with you.

[00:07:04] I work from home two days a week.

[00:07:07] And I know that you can be productive and in some ways more productive working from home.

[00:07:14] But the point, the key point here, and you put your finger on it, is verifying valuable, needed, worthwhile work, productivity.

[00:07:25] And in the federal government, measuring productivity, you might as well be saying, hey, you guys have all got to speak Russian, Greek, and French.

[00:07:33] Well, then let them go.

[00:07:34] If we can't measure it, we don't need it, sir.

[00:07:37] And that's the point.

[00:07:38] So I don't want to talk about if they come into the office, they're fine.

[00:07:41] I say if I can't measure the productivity you do, what's your job description?

[00:07:44] If I can't measure key – they're called KPIs, you know, key indicators.

[00:07:50] Yep.

[00:07:50] If I can't measure those things, buddy, you're gone because I just don't need it.

[00:07:53] Yep.

[00:07:55] Absolutely.

[00:07:55] I agree.

[00:07:56] And I'm sure that President Trump and Musk and Ramoswamy and the folks behind those, they will say absolutely, too.

[00:08:08] Anyway, I find it interesting.

[00:08:10] So where do we go with this then?

[00:08:12] What's kind of on the docket?

[00:08:13] What's kind of the idea here then?

[00:08:15] If we're just going to simply say show up on January 20th, you're gone or what?

[00:08:20] Well, that is a rhetorical way of putting it, and you shouldn't be surprised that Donald Trump would put it in a rhetorical fashion.

[00:08:29] Well, what he's trying to do is boil down complicated subjects and make a point to the American people, which I generally agree with.

[00:08:35] Yeah, exactly.

[00:08:36] Number one, they don't have too much flexibility in terms of the law in redefining the work conditions for most of the 2.1, 2.2 million, depending on how you measure it, career federal employees.

[00:08:57] There's actually a lot more of them than that, but that's the official numbers.

[00:09:03] And most of them, their working conditions are set to a great degree by agreements that they have worked out with federal employee unions.

[00:09:17] We've got to be fired, too, by the way.

[00:09:20] President John F. Kennedy in 1962 signed the executive order that made such unions legal, and we've been paying the price ever since then.

[00:09:28] But that is the first big obstacle.

[00:09:32] And the second big obstacle is going to be the career of federal civil service.

[00:09:39] And trust me, during the Reagan administration, I spent three years at the U.S. Office of Personnel Management as a member of the Reagan team trying to reform that place.

[00:09:50] There are a host of regulations and administrative procedures that have to be observed.

[00:09:58] They're going to have to find a way to cut through all of that stuff and make it clear that the commander-in-chief is, in fact, the commander-in-chief, and that includes his legal right to set working conditions for employees.

[00:10:13] I don't know how they're going to do that.

[00:10:14] I don't know.

[00:10:15] And the right to determine who we keep and who we don't based on what criteria.

[00:10:20] Dr. Bradley, I want you to chime in here.

[00:10:22] What do you say to all this?

[00:10:23] Well, as Mark indicates, there's a lot of moving parts on this.

[00:10:27] It's an extremely complicated thing.

[00:10:30] It's been nearly 200 years in development.

[00:10:32] Go ahead, Dr. Bradley.

[00:10:33] Yeah, it's been nearly 200 years in development, and it goes back probably to Grover Cleveland even, that you're going to end up having to really extricate ourselves from this.

[00:10:46] Excuse me.

[00:10:47] I do not believe this is going to be one of those wave-a-magic-wan, presto-change-o, it's all solved.

[00:10:54] And these agreements that we've had, and your representative, Mark, may have already gone down this path quite a ways, but from the perspective of someone that has a little bit of understanding about over the years what kind of a morass we've created for ourselves,

[00:11:11] it's almost like the university mentality of being able to have tenure.

[00:11:17] And these people have ownership of these jobs based upon the way it's been handled in the past.

[00:11:24] And this is going to be probably, Sam, you know, we talk about a kind of a transitional kind of period of time in which we extricate ourselves.

[00:11:34] And I don't know if we've got 10 years left as a country, but there's going to have to be some period of time.

[00:11:39] And I would be absolutely shocked if it could be done in one presidential administration because of the depth and breadth of the stranglehold these people have.

[00:11:51] Amen.

[00:11:52] You're right.

[00:11:52] You're spot on.

[00:11:53] There's been a lot of people that, you know, the presidents with executive orders have been brought up.

[00:11:58] Other executive orders can countermand those things.

[00:12:00] They're not casting concrete.

[00:12:02] But there have been agreements made that have people are going to take this to the mat on court.

[00:12:09] I mean, I guarantee people will say I have ownership of this job.

[00:12:14] My, you know, my income, everything else like that has been guaranteed to me.

[00:12:19] And so it's not an easy solution, but we need to begin extricating ourselves from it because it is not the right way to run a country.

[00:12:29] And when you say how many people work for the federal government, sounds like about 10 or 15 percent of those that claim a job, you know, and verifying productive, purposeful work is going to be one of the first things that's got to be put forth.

[00:12:45] Well, and then determining who's official, who's not, and why are we writing checks for non-official people?

[00:12:50] And I mean, we can go right on down the list.

[00:12:51] So Mark Tapscott, EpochTimes.com.

[00:12:54] Do you believe Doge can get this done, though?

[00:12:56] What I mean is that we're on one hand told that it's just so hard to unravel, it's almost impossible.

[00:13:02] On the other hand, to me and to everybody outside government, it seems like really easy.

[00:13:08] Look, just, you know what?

[00:13:09] Work through this one minute at a time.

[00:13:11] Say we're going to put harsh measures in place.

[00:13:13] You're going to have these five key indicators, buddy.

[00:13:15] And if you're not meeting them, you're getting written up.

[00:13:18] And if you get written up more than once or twice, you're gone.

[00:13:20] Okay, but hey, government doesn't work the same way as the private sector.

[00:13:25] And I think that Elon Musk and Vivek, they're going to be in for the same rude awakening that Donald got his first go-round.

[00:13:31] Now, I don't mean to be negative, and I pray for them because I want them to be successful.

[00:13:35] I just have my hesitations.

[00:13:37] Your thoughts?

[00:13:37] Well, let me tell you, Sam, I have exactly those same hesitations because I've spent the last 40 years here in Washington, D.C.,

[00:13:49] covering, among much else, waste and fraud stuff.

[00:13:53] It all comes down to one simple fact.

[00:13:58] The waste and fraud, there are literally, Senator Rand Paul today released his latest Festivus report.

[00:14:07] And he points out more than a trillion dollars in spending that reasonable people may disagree on some of it,

[00:14:15] but most of it is obviously not needed to be spent by the federal government.

[00:14:19] So what to do is there.

[00:14:22] And it's been there for a long, long time.

[00:14:25] And there's been a lot of think tanks.

[00:14:27] Hold on.

[00:14:28] Just to be clear for everybody to understand, there's been a lot of think tanks that have worked on this

[00:14:31] and written documents and books and provided guidance and support.

[00:14:35] I mean, there's so many groups until the cows come home.

[00:14:39] This is so well documented, so well.

[00:14:42] I mean, it's so obvious.

[00:14:43] It's shocking they haven't already done it.

[00:14:45] But when you understand government, you kind of know why, right?

[00:14:48] Well, that's the problem.

[00:14:50] The big question is, does Congress, which appropriates the money and decides how that money is going to be spent,

[00:15:02] does Congress have the political will to enforce the kind of laws that you and I think obviously need to be done?

[00:15:12] And the answer is clearly no.

[00:15:14] I'm not convinced that they don't.

[00:15:16] And let me tell you why, Sam.

[00:15:18] I think the experience that we saw last week, the response in the House to the first continuing resolution,

[00:15:26] the one that was 1,500 pages, had a 40 percent congressional pay raise in it,

[00:15:33] had billions and billions and billions of dollars in waste and fraud spending that Democrats demanded.

[00:15:40] And I could go on and on and on about what was in that.

[00:15:43] It didn't make it.

[00:15:45] And it was rejected decisively.

[00:15:48] They could not pass that.

[00:15:50] Now, they didn't have quite enough votes to go back and do the kind of bill that you and I would write,

[00:15:57] but they did have enough to kill that outrage.

[00:16:00] And that's a turning point.

[00:16:02] And I think we're going to see in January when the new Congress convenes,

[00:16:08] I think there's going to be more people, especially in the House,

[00:16:12] who recognize that this business as usual that has prevailed for the last 40 years is over.

[00:16:19] And it's going to be a knockdown drag out.

[00:16:21] And, you know, the things that we would like to see be done, not all of them will be done,

[00:16:25] but I think you'll see a lot of them get done.

[00:16:29] Well, I absolutely pray you're right.

[00:16:30] Dr. Bradley, what do you say to this, though?

[00:16:32] I mean, government's so entrenched that even the brightest minds haven't been able to resolve

[00:16:37] the continuing towards the cliff.

[00:16:41] Well, we have a foundation that's still in place in spite of the way they act,

[00:16:45] and it's called the United States Constitution.

[00:16:47] And if we go back to that original job description, if you will,

[00:16:52] the House, the Senate, the President, the courts,

[00:16:55] everybody has their marching orders, if you will.

[00:16:58] And we, you know, we the people need to insist that they step up and they abide by what it actually says.

[00:17:06] I mean, they're in violation of their oath of office.

[00:17:09] Virtually everybody that's in office today is that way.

[00:17:12] So I believe that somebody's got to grow a backbone.

[00:17:16] I mean, I don't think Mike Johnson has that backbone in the House,

[00:17:21] but maybe there's somebody else that could step it up.

[00:17:24] And I'm hoping that Mark's right, that we get a, you know,

[00:17:27] a kind of a new awakening, if you will, in January when they get the new people seated

[00:17:33] and that there's got to be a recognition that we've got to begin on this.

[00:17:38] Again, I don't think that it's going to be unraveled completely in four years.

[00:17:42] I just don't.

[00:17:43] I'm sorry.

[00:17:44] I think that the lawsuits that will prevail and be dragged on, I mean, every single morass that they can step into,

[00:17:52] every quagmire they want to get into, someone is going to be playing that.

[00:17:56] But we've got to begin.

[00:17:58] And that's maybe we are at a new beginning.

[00:18:01] I don't know.

[00:18:01] I hope and pray so.

[00:18:03] But there's a lot of people that don't have any backbone that are still in office

[00:18:06] and have been there for a long time.

[00:18:10] So we look at this thing, Joni speaking out on it pretty boldly,

[00:18:15] and I agree with her general point, which is, you know what, we've got to have people working.

[00:18:19] And if you're not working, and that's the problem with these people at home,

[00:18:21] no one's got the measurements in place.

[00:18:23] No one's got the ability to monitor these KPIs.

[00:18:26] These people are just hanging out at home and having a good time on the dime, aren't they, Mark?

[00:18:31] A lot of them, yeah.

[00:18:34] But on the other hand, you know, the bottom line, again, is how do you verify productivity?

[00:18:42] And there is not a culture in the federal bureaucracy of doing that.

[00:18:47] So this is –

[00:18:50] Buddy, you put me in place, Mr. Tapp, Scott, and I'll monitor and I'll have some KPIs in place in less than a month.

[00:18:58] I have no doubt about that, Sam.

[00:19:01] I went through –

[00:19:03] Go ahead, Dr. Bradley.

[00:19:05] Go ahead.

[00:19:05] I went for a company – I worked for a company almost – well, it was 40 years ago

[00:19:11] that was creating a new culture for itself.

[00:19:15] And it was a huge, massive company,

[00:19:17] probably close to size of what the federal government has in terms of employees.

[00:19:24] And, you know, it's the AT&T and the old bell system, total, total, total employees and everything.

[00:19:30] And we went through a process called functional accounting.

[00:19:32] And I don't know if that's a good name for it or not.

[00:19:35] But every single 15 minutes of every day – and trust me, as an employee, it was a bothersome task –

[00:19:44] had to be accounted for and the process that they went through.

[00:19:48] They were trying to ascertain just exactly what Doge and Musk and Ramaswamy have tried to do here.

[00:19:56] We have 32 segmented day parts to track here now.

[00:19:59] And so what you do is you say, okay, this 15 minutes was put into this activity.

[00:20:06] Now, of course, we've got computers now that compile a lot of this stuff.

[00:20:09] It could be done.

[00:20:10] But every single stinking employee went through this functional accounting process.

[00:20:17] And it was a very eye-opening process.

[00:20:20] The company became reshaped by it.

[00:20:23] And so stuff like this has been done in private industry.

[00:20:28] And people think, well, I work for the government, so I'm protected for life or whatever.

[00:20:33] You know, I don't know how this tenure thing got embedded in the government stuff.

[00:20:37] Well, I can kind of know a little bit about it.

[00:20:38] But the fact of the matter is these kind of tools should be available.

[00:20:43] And Elon and Vivek should have some understanding of this.

[00:20:49] If they don't, there are people that they could bring on board.

[00:20:53] It's like when Henry Ford was asked one day about some inane question.

[00:20:58] He says, I don't know the answer to that, but I can hire somebody that does.

[00:21:01] And that is the quintessential point.

[00:21:04] And I can get that done for them.

[00:21:05] Now, Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa basically told housing and urban development officials,

[00:21:12] why they're even involved in it, I don't know.

[00:21:14] But housing and urban development officials are involved,

[00:21:16] to stop talks with federal employees' unions,

[00:21:20] stopping the new deals that would allow teleworking rules to be extended for five years.

[00:21:26] She says, hey, you know what?

[00:21:27] We don't need to spend our final days battling the bureaucrats on this thing.

[00:21:31] Not to do their job.

[00:21:32] It's wrong on every level.

[00:21:33] She's right as rain on all this point.

[00:21:35] But I don't even understand.

[00:21:36] Why are we dealing with the unions?

[00:21:37] Fire them.

[00:21:38] Get rid of them.

[00:21:39] And why are we even dealing with this housing and urban development related to jobs for

[00:21:44] employees and telework in the first place, Mr. Tapscott?

[00:21:48] Well, as I mentioned earlier today, the federal employee unions were legalized in 1962 by an executive order signed by President John F. Kennedy.

[00:22:01] And I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that a presidential executive order can be superseded by a different presidential executive order.

[00:22:13] Well, and both executive orders are criminal, and they don't have any authority to do that.

[00:22:16] That's called pretend legislation, but we diverge from topic here.

[00:22:20] Go ahead, sir.

[00:22:21] Well, my point is that, again, is there a political will in the Trump White House and in the Republican Congress to take whatever the right steps are to fix this

[00:22:32] and to then stand behind them and not cave when the Democrats and the mainstream media and all of the unions come after them with the kind of lawsuits that the doctor was mentioning?

[00:22:51] And there's a thousand ways that they can delay and cause this problem to not be fixed for some period of time.

[00:23:02] But if there is political will to fix it, it will.

[00:23:06] And the doctor's right.

[00:23:07] It won't happen all in the first or this last Trump term.

[00:23:11] I think it'll take 15 or 20 years.

[00:23:14] And do we have that much time?

[00:23:16] I don't know.

[00:23:18] Well, I think if we take the right steps and turn to God Almighty, we have time.

[00:23:21] If we don't, we don't, doctor.

[00:23:24] Well, just going back to a historical thing, and I don't know what it is about being old.

[00:23:31] You remember some things occasionally.

[00:23:33] You know, short-term memory may not be so good.

[00:23:36] But at any rate, some of you may remember the PATCO fiasco back during the Reagan administration.

[00:23:42] The Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization was formed in 1968.

[00:23:47] And this was a follow-on from what Jack Kennedy did in 1962 and the unions of, you know, federal employees.

[00:23:57] But he shut them down.

[00:23:59] When they went on strike, he said, you guys don't have no more jobs, boys and girls.

[00:24:04] And this was an earth-shattering kind of thing, but they backed out of it.

[00:24:09] It was done.

[00:24:10] They hired new people.

[00:24:12] So stuff like this has happened before.

[00:24:15] Mr. Tapscott, do you have an extra few minutes to stay with us?

[00:24:18] Absolutely.

[00:24:19] All right.

[00:24:19] Stay there, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:24:20] Mark Tapscott, Epoch Times senior reporter, works with Congress.

[00:24:24] Dr. Scott Bradley, yours truly.

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[00:26:09] Daniel Duggan is accused of working with the Chinese military at a flying school in South Africa over a decade ago.

[00:26:17] Prosecutors in the United States claim he was part of a conspiracy to illegally instruct pilots how to land and take off from an aircraft carrier.

[00:26:26] In May, a magistrate in Sydney ruled Mr. Duggan could be sent back to the U.S. to face arms trafficking charges.

[00:26:36] He's denied breaking any laws, but his extradition has now been approved by Australia's Attorney General.

[00:26:43] The former U.S. Marine's family said the decision was callous and inhumane.

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[00:27:44] Two employees of Omaha-based Union Pacific were killed in the crash.

[00:27:48] It occurred on Wednesday.

[00:27:50] It happened at a grade crossing in Pecos in West Texas.

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[00:30:27] Probably brought up a bigger mess than I should have.

[00:30:31] We brought up the 1981 professional air traffic controllers strike that they did during the Reagan administration.

[00:30:38] And, well, I don't want to, you know, my tendency is to go back and tell the rest of the story,

[00:30:43] but I just, without getting too much in the weeds, sometimes we have to go back to go forward

[00:30:49] and look at some analogous kind of concepts that might be given consideration.

[00:30:56] And we're talking about federal employees and their workers and all this kind of stuff.

[00:31:01] Over the years, it's become a morass of regulation and agreement and unions and blah, blah, blah.

[00:31:08] But back in 68, these professional air traffic controllers came into, they organized and they came forward.

[00:31:16] And in the Reagan race, they actually endorsed Reagan.

[00:31:22] They walked away from Jimmy Carter.

[00:31:23] But they were in this heavy-duty negotiation stuff.

[00:31:27] And it kind of unraveled.

[00:31:29] And they were hoping to better their position with their status and standing in the U.S. government.

[00:31:40] But there's a couple of really interesting things that happened.

[00:31:43] Reagan ended up firing them all.

[00:31:46] And here's what they did when they accepted their jobs.

[00:31:49] This is an oath they took.

[00:31:50] I'm not participating in any strike against the government of the United States or any agency thereof.

[00:31:56] And I will not so participate while an employee of the government of the United States or any agency thereof.

[00:32:03] So Reagan brought that up when this strike was going on.

[00:32:06] I say, you guys, you know, this is not going to work.

[00:32:09] And he says, here's what he wrote.

[00:32:11] This is a news conference.

[00:32:13] They are in violation of the law.

[00:32:14] And if they do not report to work within 48 hours, if they have four-footed, their jobs and will be terminated.

[00:32:22] People say, you can't do that.

[00:32:23] These guys are air traffic controllers.

[00:32:25] We're not going to let this.

[00:32:26] Just did.

[00:32:27] But poof, gone.

[00:32:28] They were gone.

[00:32:29] And so stuff like that has happened historically when the will was there.

[00:32:34] And this is not a completely, you know, overlay of what we're dealing with right now.

[00:32:40] And as, you know, Donald Trump comes into office.

[00:32:44] But the idea that if 10, 15, 20 percent, I don't know what the number is, of the people that are now drawing public funds are not earning those things for a valid purpose.

[00:32:57] That needs to be relooked.

[00:32:59] And honestly.

[00:33:00] And the historical table has been set to do it again, Mr. Tapscott.

[00:33:06] Well, I was just thinking as I was listening to Dr. Bradley, that it's perhaps ironic and telling that Justice President Reagan at the outset of his first term, and I was a part of the Reagan administration, so I'm very familiar with all of that.

[00:33:22] He had a basically a personnel problem that he dealt decisively with against the opposition of unions and even against the opposition of the union that had endorsed him in the campaign.

[00:33:36] Now, here we have President-elect Trump coming in.

[00:33:40] I don't know that the Teamsters Union has said anything about the federal employee unions, but I can guarantee you if Trump moves as decisively on this telework issue as President Reagan did with the PECO union, that there will be tremendous opposition from all of the union establishment.

[00:34:03] And it will be a question of whether Donald Trump is going to say, look, you either work productively for the taxpayers or you go work for somebody else.

[00:34:13] And it has to be verified that you're doing that.

[00:34:18] Well, our prayers are that Donald Trump has the backbone.

[00:34:21] Our prayer that Doge can really dig in.

[00:34:24] And like I say, I don't believe this separating telework from working in the office is really the button they ought to be pressing on, because I think that's a losing battle in the modern society and work anywhere movement that's taking hold.

[00:34:36] And the next generation is embracing big time and has some tremendous value to it if we don't just ignore it, if we really focus on, hey, let's talk about KPIs.

[00:34:46] Let's talk about productivity proof.

[00:34:48] Let's talk about, hey, knowing when you're working and when you're not.

[00:34:51] And let's talk.

[00:34:52] Okay.

[00:34:52] Those are the discussions.

[00:34:53] But nevertheless, I think we're off to a good start, though.

[00:34:55] This debate opens up, in my opinion, a big vacuum where leadership can jump in and provide guidance and direction in a very productive way.

[00:35:05] Mr. Tapscott, let's let you end on that note.

[00:35:09] I think that leadership definitely can step in.

[00:35:12] And let's not forget the personnel issue of teleworking.

[00:35:17] And trust me, there are a bunch of other personnel issues that are related to that.

[00:35:20] But that's not the only thing that DOGE is lining up.

[00:35:25] Let me give you just an illustration from Senator Rand Paul's Festivus report this morning.

[00:35:33] The federal government, I think Senator Ernst has spoken about this as well.

[00:35:37] The federal government spent $10 billion on maintaining, leasing, and furnishing almost entirely empty buildings in 2024.

[00:35:46] Now, a bunch of those buildings are not empty because federal employees are teleworking.

[00:35:51] They're empty because they're not being used by the government.

[00:35:54] But the government keeps paying to keep them in the government's inventory.

[00:35:59] There are thousands and thousands of examples like that.

[00:36:03] There are hundreds and hundreds of recommendations from inspectors general to fix things like that that have not been adopted.

[00:36:11] If Donald Trump says, look, we're going to eliminate this stuff, a lot of it will be gone.

[00:36:20] Well, he has my absolute 1,000% support in getting those things done.

[00:36:25] I pray for Dr. Senator Rand Paul, Joni Ernst, DOGE, Trump, Vance, the whole team to get that done.

[00:36:34] And I offer my services if they need somebody to kind of keep a finger on the pulse.

[00:36:37] I got a lot of experience in this, and we're glad to help in any way possible.

[00:36:41] Mr. Tabscott, will you keep us up to date on what's happening as things unfold?

[00:36:45] You got it.

[00:36:46] We appreciate you.

[00:36:47] Merry Christmas to you and your family.

[00:36:49] We'll talk soon.

[00:36:50] All righty.

[00:36:51] Y'all have a great day.

[00:36:52] There he goes, Mr. Mark Tabscott, ladies and gentlemen, senior reporter for the Epoch Times,

[00:36:59] award-winning investigative journalist, no less, congressional correspondent for the Epoch Times,

[00:37:05] doing a great job.

[00:37:06] We really need Congress, Dr. Bradley, to double down and back what these guys are trying to do too, right?

[00:37:13] Well, absolutely.

[00:37:14] My concern often, again, there was hope voiced in this last little segment that with the new Congress being seated at the first part of January and a new presidential administration and all those kinds of things, you know what?

[00:37:31] It is a new beginning.

[00:37:33] It is a new beginning, we hope.

[00:37:34] But there's so many things wrong right now.

[00:37:37] It's kind of like how in the world do you cover all the things that really need to be covered?

[00:37:42] I mean, there has to be a triage.

[00:37:44] You know, you split them into things.

[00:37:46] This one's going to die regardless.

[00:37:48] This one's going to live regardless.

[00:37:49] This is the stuff we need to focus on.

[00:37:52] And I mean, you know, just about everything is broken in the government right now.

[00:38:01] You're right about that.

[00:38:02] And it's something that we need to change.

[00:38:04] I think that priorities could really make a difference.

[00:38:06] And I know this.

[00:38:08] At least if you look at businesses across the board, payroll is one of the biggest expenses businesses have.

[00:38:13] Same thing's got to be true in government.

[00:38:15] So I simply say this.

[00:38:17] You know what?

[00:38:17] We don't need most of these employees.

[00:38:19] I don't know what they're doing.

[00:38:20] I don't know what purpose they serve.

[00:38:22] If we don't have the ability to measure what they're doing and really get a handle on it, then they need to go away.

[00:38:28] And if we can measure it and we can really, you know, prove it successful, I don't care if they work at home or not, if we can document their productivity, et cetera.

[00:38:36] And I agree with Mark Tapscott.

[00:38:38] He's like, hey, I work from home two days a week.

[00:38:40] So he's got kind of a hybrid approach.

[00:38:42] And I think in many, many cases, the hybrid issue is a really good one.

[00:38:46] You don't have to be home all the time, but you don't have to be in the office all the time either.

[00:38:50] Let's get you some office time for meetings and communications.

[00:38:53] And, okay, let's get you some home time so you can be left alone and really, you know, what do they call that when you just get focused in on a task or whatever?

[00:39:02] Oh, there's a word for that.

[00:39:04] Anyway, you get these super productive times where you're just, you're in the zone.

[00:39:08] That's the word I'm looking for.

[00:39:09] You're in the zone.

[00:39:11] Time for people to get in the zone and all that kind of stuff.

[00:39:13] That's what needs to happen, Dr. Bradley.

[00:39:15] Well, you know, and I just want to, again, make a little slight on the slight.

[00:39:20] This is a critically issue important pitch for the fact that we just don't make productivity more efficient if it has no tie in whatsoever to their authority of the that's delegated in the United States Constitution.

[00:39:39] I mean, just.

[00:39:40] Yeah, if it's not needful, I don't care how efficient it is.

[00:39:43] It's better that it's efficient.

[00:39:44] But if we don't need it, let's get rid of it.

[00:39:46] Let's think about it that way, too.

[00:39:48] Not needing it is not even the issue.

[00:39:50] I mean, it's part of the issue.

[00:39:51] Yes, I agree.

[00:39:52] But the fact of the matter is, if there is no justification constitutionally for somebody to be stacking BBs in the corner, even if you make them a better BB stacker, does not make it right.

[00:40:05] You've got to get rid of the stacking BBs things that just don't fit.

[00:40:09] See, we don't need to stack BBs.

[00:40:10] That's what I'm getting at, right?

[00:40:12] Right.

[00:40:12] All right.

[00:40:12] If the Constitution doesn't allow it, it ain't there, baby.

[00:40:16] Yeah, then it's not needed.

[00:40:18] If it isn't there in the Constitution, it's not needed.

[00:40:20] That's for sure.

[00:40:20] That's right.

[00:40:21] If it really is needed, let's talk about how constitutionally add it then, right?

[00:40:26] Absolutely.

[00:40:27] Okay.

[00:40:27] So there's ways to go about it even so.

[00:40:29] All right.

[00:40:30] Tucker Carlson spoke at the same conference, believe it or not, that Donald Trump spoke at yesterday, which is the Turning Point USA conference.

[00:40:40] He delivered a strong message to Republican senators during this Turning Point USA thing on Thursday.

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[00:43:40] Welcome to Liberty Roundtable Live.

[00:43:41] Ladies and gentlemen, Sam Bushman on your radio.

[00:43:43] People say, Sam, don't sing.

[00:43:45] Keep your day job, buddy.

[00:43:47] All right, I'll do it.

[00:43:47] Thanks for being alongside for the ride.

[00:43:49] Merry Christmas to all of you.

[00:43:51] We're talking about Tucker Carlson delivered a strong message.

[00:43:56] During a speech at Turning Point USA

[00:43:57] He basically said, hey, you know what?

[00:43:59] Any senators that don't vote for Tulsi Gabbard

[00:44:01] And back Tulsi Gabbard

[00:44:03] Nah, they're an enemy to the country.

[00:44:06] And I think that's just pure flat-out gaslighting.

[00:44:09] Okay, I think Tulsi's done a lot of good.

[00:44:11] But I think she's done a lot of things that are concerning.

[00:44:13] For me, the fact that she's not pro-life is a problem.

[00:44:16] Just my opinion.

[00:44:17] So let's say I vote against her because she's not pro-life

[00:44:20] And I don't want her to get any more power authority than she's already got.

[00:44:23] Well, so I'm an enemy of the country now, Tucker?

[00:44:26] See, that's gaslighting, Dr. Bradley, and it's got to stop.

[00:44:30] You know, there are people that have what I would term fatal flaws.

[00:44:34] I mean, if someone, for example, wants to rewrite our Constitution

[00:44:40] And replace it with some other scurrilous document

[00:44:43] I think that's a fatal flaw.

[00:44:45] I think that shows that they're not committed to their oath of office.

[00:44:49] Okay?

[00:44:49] So there are, in my opinion, fatal flaws.

[00:44:52] And if you put somebody in, and I could name names

[00:44:56] Lots of people that have lots of preeminence in the country

[00:44:59] Have that position about getting rid of the Constitution.

[00:45:03] I think they're fatally flawed and should be removed from office

[00:45:05] By knowledgeable voters.

[00:45:07] But I think that the job that Gabbard is being called into

[00:45:13] And you bring up a point.

[00:45:14] Oh, holy cow.

[00:45:16] She's not pro-life.

[00:45:17] She doesn't protect the unborn.

[00:45:19] But will she protect the living, too?

[00:45:22] I mean, all of these kinds of things

[00:45:25] Are things that people need to make decisions of

[00:45:27] But to make a blanket statement

[00:45:29] Like they're an enemy of the country

[00:45:32] An enemy of the state or whatever

[00:45:33] Pretty soon we're just kind of painting with such a broad brush

[00:45:38] On so many people

[00:45:39] That we're creating more polarization

[00:45:42] And there's probably very, very, very, very, very few people

[00:45:46] That are as much as a purist as we might be, Sam

[00:45:50] But the fact of the matter is

[00:45:52] Some people have skill sets

[00:45:54] And if they're not in a position to affect the areas

[00:45:57] Where they're, you know, where we feel they're flawed

[00:46:00] You know, maybe we ought to talk about having a team there

[00:46:04] That can work through things

[00:46:05] If they're monolithic

[00:46:07] If everybody's monolithic in their perspective

[00:46:11] Of this or that or the other

[00:46:13] Sometimes we're setting aside people

[00:46:16] That might bring some good ideas to the table

[00:46:18] I mean, holy cow

[00:46:21] So I think he's not being accurate in his statement

[00:46:27] And I think he's being inflammatory almost in his statement

[00:46:31] So I think Tucker probably has overstated his position

[00:46:36] In this particular instance

[00:46:37] Well, and that's what I mean by gaslighting

[00:46:39] It's got to stop

[00:46:40] Stop it, Tucker

[00:46:41] I know you think you've got a ton of power, buddy

[00:46:43] And I know you do

[00:46:43] In many, many ways

[00:46:45] But again, this is Elon Musk

[00:46:46] And, you know, Tucker Carlson

[00:46:48] And some of these people

[00:46:49] That have kind of got this newfound power

[00:46:52] Steve Bannon and many others

[00:46:53] The same scenario

[00:46:56] And to me, it's a big problem

[00:46:57] Okay?

[00:46:58] These people act like they're

[00:46:59] You know, they're the go-to for knowledge

[00:47:01] Go-to for understanding

[00:47:05] Or whatever

[00:47:05] And I just disagree with a lot of this

[00:47:07] I look at the Constitution for my guidance

[00:47:09] I look at the proper role of government

[00:47:11] The tradition of the Founding Fathers for my guidance

[00:47:13] Not to some of these clowns

[00:47:15] That want to jump in front of the parade

[00:47:17] And you know what?

[00:47:18] I would vote against Tulsi Gabbard

[00:47:20] If I were in the Senate

[00:47:21] Just saying

[00:47:23] That's just my opinion

[00:47:24] And I'm not an enemy to the country

[00:47:27] That's the problem

[00:47:28] That's the

[00:47:29] Okay?

[00:47:29] We can't be guilty of what the liberals do

[00:47:31] Folks

[00:47:31] Just can't do it

[00:47:32] Steve Bannon

[00:47:33] Backs increasing

[00:47:36] Taxes

[00:47:36] On wealthy Americans

[00:47:38] And I would say

[00:47:39] Shame on Steve Bannon for this

[00:47:41] He says

[00:47:41] I'm for a dramatic increase

[00:47:43] In corporate taxes

[00:47:44] We've got to at least tax the wealthy

[00:47:48] Anyway

[00:47:49] Then he goes on

[00:47:50] He says

[00:47:51] We're all partners in this

[00:47:52] And

[00:47:54] Anyway

[00:47:55] During his speech to supporters

[00:47:58] Of the Republican Party

[00:47:59] At the annual banquet

[00:48:00] Or whatever

[00:48:01] He doubled down

[00:48:02] And literally talked about this

[00:48:03] And said

[00:48:04] Hey

[00:48:05] Gotta have this

[00:48:07] Gotta have assessment of taxes

[00:48:09] On the affluent

[00:48:10] And I'm saying

[00:48:11] Folks

[00:48:11] That's a progressive

[00:48:12] Kind of income tax

[00:48:14] In many ways

[00:48:15] One progressive means

[00:48:16] It keeps going up

[00:48:17] Number two

[00:48:17] It creates brackets

[00:48:18] To penalize some more than others

[00:48:20] It's a disgrace

[00:48:21] It needs to stop

[00:48:22] And Steve Bannon

[00:48:23] Quit taking a page

[00:48:24] Out of the socialist playbook

[00:48:26] Buddy

[00:48:26] You can't do that

[00:48:27] Okay?

[00:48:28] Why don't we just get rid

[00:48:29] Of the income tax entirely

[00:48:30] Shut down the IRS

[00:48:32] Put tariffs at the borders

[00:48:33] Free the American people

[00:48:35] Indirect taxes

[00:48:36] Are the only taxes

[00:48:37] Our founding fathers endorsed

[00:48:38] I get the proper role

[00:48:40] Of government needs to be

[00:48:40] You know

[00:48:42] There needs to be a budget for it

[00:48:43] I get it

[00:48:43] And I support that

[00:48:44] But not direct taxation

[00:48:46] That violate the freedoms

[00:48:47] Of the people

[00:48:47] And certainly not taxes

[00:48:49] That pit Americans

[00:48:50] Against each other

[00:48:51] Doctor?

[00:48:53] You know

[00:48:53] There's so much

[00:48:54] We should have spent

[00:48:54] A whole hour on this one

[00:48:55] Perhaps

[00:48:56] But this is

[00:48:58] Basically

[00:48:58] Right out of the

[00:48:59] Communist manifesto

[00:49:01] I mean

[00:49:01] This progressive income tax

[00:49:03] Kind of thing

[00:49:04] This idea

[00:49:05] You know

[00:49:06] What are we going to do

[00:49:06] Say off with their heads

[00:49:07] Like they did with the nobility

[00:49:08] For a while

[00:49:09] In the French revolution

[00:49:10] Because they were the

[00:49:12] Elite

[00:49:12] I mean

[00:49:13] You know

[00:49:13] This

[00:49:14] This whole concept

[00:49:15] Of divide and conquer

[00:49:18] Fragmentation

[00:49:19] Pitting

[00:49:20] A socio

[00:49:21] Social economic class

[00:49:23] Against social economic class

[00:49:25] That's how we've overthrown

[00:49:26] We not

[00:49:27] With the communists

[00:49:28] Have overthrown

[00:49:29] Governments

[00:49:30] Historically

[00:49:31] And so this idea

[00:49:32] Of polarization

[00:49:33] Fragmentation

[00:49:35] Fractionalization

[00:49:36] Is all

[00:49:38] A destructive thing

[00:49:39] And the whole idea

[00:49:41] Of what we're basing

[00:49:42] Our tax structure on now

[00:49:44] Is falsely based

[00:49:45] Based on the way

[00:49:45] The founding fathers

[00:49:46] Considered how it should be done

[00:49:48] Even this idea

[00:49:49] That Trump

[00:49:50] Is leveraging tariffs

[00:49:52] I mean

[00:49:52] You know

[00:49:53] Sure

[00:49:53] Congress has the authority

[00:49:54] To do tariffs

[00:49:56] And what did it lead to

[00:49:57] Back in the

[00:49:58] 1850s and 60s

[00:50:00] It led to the Civil War

[00:50:01] That was largely

[00:50:03] The process of it

[00:50:04] It was being

[00:50:05] Unfairly leveraged

[00:50:06] Even though they had

[00:50:07] The power

[00:50:08] To put tariffs out

[00:50:09] It was being done

[00:50:11] Incorrectly

[00:50:12] And violating

[00:50:13] The founding principles

[00:50:14] And tariffs

[00:50:15] You know

[00:50:16] Yeah

[00:50:17] I think there's

[00:50:18] Tariffs need to be looked at

[00:50:19] There's no question

[00:50:20] That was the way

[00:50:21] Most of the government

[00:50:22] Was supposed to be

[00:50:23] Funded from the get-go

[00:50:25] Read Federalist 45

[00:50:27] But

[00:50:27] But if you put

[00:50:28] 100% on these guys

[00:50:29] And 25% on these guys

[00:50:31] And 12%

[00:50:32] Or 0%

[00:50:33] It's again

[00:50:34] It's a kind of a

[00:50:36] Progressive tax

[00:50:37] That's based upon

[00:50:39] It's a weapon

[00:50:40] It becomes a weapon

[00:50:42] And so

[00:50:43] Tariffs need to be applied

[00:50:44] Fairly and appropriately

[00:50:45] Usually uniformly

[00:50:47] There may be some exceptions

[00:50:49] To that

[00:50:49] Never weaponized

[00:50:50] This weaponization of law

[00:50:52] Is wrong

[00:50:53] But see

[00:50:54] Everything that

[00:50:55] Everybody's talking about now

[00:50:56] Is

[00:50:57] Is adding to the

[00:50:58] Fractionalization

[00:50:59] Of government

[00:51:01] To the point

[00:51:01] Where

[00:51:02] We're just going to

[00:51:04] Break in little tiny pieces

[00:51:05] We'll be balkanized

[00:51:06] To the point

[00:51:06] That we can't hang together

[00:51:08] So there's so many

[00:51:09] Bad approaches to this

[00:51:11] And

[00:51:11] And

[00:51:12] So

[00:51:13] This idea

[00:51:14] Of singling out

[00:51:15] The rich

[00:51:16] And put a higher

[00:51:17] Tariff on them

[00:51:18] If you will

[00:51:19] Is equally bad

[00:51:20] With any of the other

[00:51:22] Marxist philosophies

[00:51:23] That are out there too

[00:51:24] So

[00:51:24] People need to say

[00:51:25] What baseline

[00:51:26] Are we going back to

[00:51:27] With this

[00:51:27] Oh

[00:51:28] It doesn't fit

[00:51:29] Our back trail

[00:51:31] Back to our original

[00:51:32] Intent of the

[00:51:33] American founding fathers

[00:51:34] Is not on that trail

[00:51:35] The way that

[00:51:36] Bannon's

[00:51:36] Recommended

[00:51:37] Amen

[00:51:38] So

[00:51:38] Shame on Bannon

[00:51:39] Is my headline

[00:51:40] For this

[00:51:40] And we got to

[00:51:41] Stand against it

[00:51:41] I'm not against

[00:51:42] Steve Bannon

[00:51:42] I really like him

[00:51:43] But I'm telling you

[00:51:44] Right now

[00:51:44] To me

[00:51:44] It's not a matter

[00:51:45] Of I don't pick

[00:51:45] Sides

[00:51:46] I don't pick

[00:51:46] Trump

[00:51:46] I don't pick

[00:51:47] Bannon

[00:51:47] I don't pick

[00:51:47] Tucker

[00:51:48] I don't pick

[00:51:48] Anybody

[00:51:48] I pick

[00:51:50] Constitutionality

[00:51:50] And I pick

[00:51:51] Principle

[00:51:51] Over people

[00:51:52] Every time

[00:51:53] And that's what

[00:51:53] We need to do

[00:51:54] Somebody needs to

[00:51:55] Look at Joe Biden

[00:51:56] Right now

[00:51:56] He's spending

[00:51:57] The waning days

[00:51:57] Of his presidency

[00:51:58] Not taking care

[00:52:00] Of the country

[00:52:00] At all

[00:52:01] But basically

[00:52:01] Dishing out

[00:52:02] One billion dollars

[00:52:03] To preserve

[00:52:04] The Amazon rainforest

[00:52:06] They say

[00:52:06] The president

[00:52:07] Traveled to the

[00:52:08] Amazon rainforest

[00:52:10] In mid-November

[00:52:11] By the way

[00:52:11] To announce

[00:52:12] The United States

[00:52:13] Pledge

[00:52:14] To increase

[00:52:15] U.S.

[00:52:16] International

[00:52:16] Climate finance

[00:52:17] To over

[00:52:18] Eleven billion dollars

[00:52:20] A year

[00:52:20] By 2024

[00:52:23] The Daily Caller

[00:52:24] With this piece

[00:52:25] And I just

[00:52:25] Look at this

[00:52:25] And I say

[00:52:26] If Congress

[00:52:26] Didn't approve

[00:52:27] That

[00:52:27] Then they ought

[00:52:28] To throw

[00:52:28] The president

[00:52:28] In jail

[00:52:29] For stealing

[00:52:29] Money

[00:52:30] If the

[00:52:30] Congress

[00:52:31] Did approve

[00:52:31] This

[00:52:32] Then we need

[00:52:32] A laser-like

[00:52:33] Look at

[00:52:33] Congress

[00:52:34] And say

[00:52:34] What on earth

[00:52:35] You criminals

[00:52:35] Think you're

[00:52:36] Doing

[00:52:36] Thou shalt not

[00:52:37] Steal

[00:52:37] Should be

[00:52:37] At the top

[00:52:38] Of your

[00:52:38] No-no

[00:52:38] List

[00:52:40] Doctor

[00:52:40] Well that's

[00:52:41] That's part

[00:52:42] Of the problem

[00:52:42] With these

[00:52:43] Omnibus

[00:52:43] Bills

[00:52:44] They get

[00:52:45] Stuffed

[00:52:45] With pork

[00:52:46] Or turkey

[00:52:47] Stuffing

[00:52:47] Or whatever

[00:52:47] The heck

[00:52:48] You want to

[00:52:48] Call it

[00:52:48] And if

[00:52:49] Congress

[00:52:50] Passed

[00:52:50] And somebody

[00:52:50] Says oh

[00:52:51] By golly

[00:52:52] Was that

[00:52:53] In there

[00:52:53] I didn't

[00:52:54] Know that

[00:52:54] Oh golly

[00:52:55] I wouldn't

[00:52:56] Have voted

[00:52:56] For it

[00:52:56] Then

[00:52:57] No

[00:52:57] That's

[00:53:00] Epidemic

[00:53:00] In the

[00:53:00] Problem

[00:53:01] Of the

[00:53:01] Way we're

[00:53:01] Doing our

[00:53:02] Budgeting

[00:53:02] But yeah

[00:53:03] Biden has

[00:53:04] No right

[00:53:04] Giving away

[00:53:05] Any money

[00:53:05] Let alone

[00:53:06] Any number

[00:53:06] I mean

[00:53:07] Anything

[00:53:08] Did you see

[00:53:09] Where he

[00:53:09] Wandered off

[00:53:10] In the jungle

[00:53:10] Or appeared

[00:53:11] Like he was

[00:53:11] Going to

[00:53:11] At that

[00:53:12] News conference

[00:53:12] I mean

[00:53:13] It's like

[00:53:14] Dr. Livingston

[00:53:15] I presume

[00:53:16] He was going

[00:53:16] To go out

[00:53:17] Some place

[00:53:17] And be lost

[00:53:18] In the jungle

[00:53:19] There's just

[00:53:20] So many things

[00:53:21] Wrong with

[00:53:21] What's going

[00:53:22] On right

[00:53:22] Now

[00:53:23] And you

[00:53:24] Know it's

[00:53:25] Kind of like

[00:53:25] I don't

[00:53:26] Really think

[00:53:26] That they're

[00:53:28] Fiddling

[00:53:28] While Rome

[00:53:29] Burned

[00:53:29] Because that

[00:53:29] Didn't really

[00:53:30] Happen either

[00:53:31] I don't

[00:53:42] Needed them

[00:53:43] So yeah

[00:53:43] Biden's

[00:53:44] And that's

[00:53:44] The reason

[00:53:45] That I speak

[00:53:45] Out so boldly

[00:53:46] About it

[00:53:46] Dr. Bradley

[00:53:47] Is we have

[00:53:47] A window

[00:53:48] To kind of

[00:53:48] Point people

[00:53:49] In the right

[00:53:49] Direction

[00:53:49] And man

[00:53:50] It just

[00:53:51] Seems like

[00:53:51] There's so

[00:53:51] Many people

[00:53:52] With a lot

[00:53:52] More

[00:53:53] I don't know

[00:53:54] What you

[00:53:54] Want to call

[00:53:54] An influence

[00:53:55] Than we've

[00:53:55] Got

[00:53:56] But I want

[00:53:57] To stand

[00:53:57] Tall

[00:53:58] For what's

[00:53:59] Right every

[00:53:59] Time

[00:53:59] And it's

[00:53:59] About a

[00:54:00] Principle

[00:54:00] Over people

[00:54:01] And I hope

[00:54:01] To point people

[00:54:02] To the correct

[00:54:03] Principles

[00:54:03] Doctor

[00:54:04] Because that's

[00:54:04] The only way

[00:54:05] In my opinion

[00:54:07] To make

[00:54:07] America moral

[00:54:08] Again

[00:54:10] Well we're

[00:54:11] Approaching Christmas

[00:54:12] Maybe you can

[00:54:12] Refocus on the

[00:54:13] Savior

[00:54:13] And maybe

[00:54:14] Keep that

[00:54:15] Focus

[00:54:15] In the coming

[00:54:16] Amen to that

[00:54:17] To all of you

[00:54:19] A Merry Christmas

[00:54:19] From the Liberty

[00:54:20] Roundtable live

[00:54:21] Team

[00:54:22] We do celebrate

[00:54:22] Christ

[00:54:23] He lived

[00:54:24] He suffered

[00:54:26] And died

[00:54:26] But he was

[00:54:27] Resurrected

[00:54:28] And in that

[00:54:29] Resurrection

[00:54:29] Becomes our

[00:54:30] Salvation

[00:54:31] If we turn

[00:54:31] To him

[00:54:32] And allow him

[00:54:34] To make us

[00:54:35] Free

[00:54:35] It takes

[00:54:36] Repentance

[00:54:36] It takes

[00:54:37] Faith

[00:54:37] It takes

[00:54:38] Hope

[00:54:38] And it takes

[00:54:39] A testimony

[00:54:40] Of Jesus

[00:54:41] Christ

[00:54:41] God

[00:54:42] Save

[00:54:42] The Republic