Radio Show Hour 1 – 01/16/2025

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[00:01:11] my dear friend and brother in liberty, Eldon Stahl, field coordinator for the John Birch Society, jbs.org. Also for the New American magazine, thenewamerican.com. Eldon, welcome back, my friend. Oh, thank you, Sam. It's great to be here. We'll get to the Honest Money Report here in a little bit in the show. I'm going to ask when do we celebrate National Honest Money Day? Okay. Hopefully Donald Trump will make that a reality.

[00:01:38] But I find this fascinating, daylight savings time. You know, I know we've talked about this over the years, how nonsensical it is, and it goes on and on and on. But here's the interesting thing. You know, I don't know what Congress is doing, but they've been, what, rolling since the 4th? So they really had Friday, as far as I understand. And then they had, you know, all week that week and then all week this week.

[00:02:04] So you've got, I don't know, five days, six days, seven, eight, nine, like 10 days they've been in, you know, and I don't know what they've really done. I guess they certified the election. I guess they, you know, talked about a couple of bills. The Senate's going crazy, kind of interviewing everybody and their dog for the positions they're going to have. Pam Bondi in the mix. Marco Rubio in the mix.

[00:02:31] You know, several different people being, you know, quizzed down and whatever. But I don't really see what Congress has done. And, you know, they talk about Mike Johnson wants to put a big on-the-bus spending bill on Donald Trump's desk by Memorial Day. I mean, that's just clown show stuff, okay? That's just, it isn't going to go well. What they need to do is pass single issue, straight up and down votes,

[00:02:57] clearly one at a time, and find out who's voting right and wrong on real issues that matter. Well, the reason that I bring this up is because one of the other things that you need to do, in addition to voting bills in one at a time, you could have already had in these 10 days of business, if you did it right, literally 100 small bills, straight up and down vote bills, that would fund the proper role of government. Okay, the debt ceiling's upon us right now. No one's really even focused on it that I can see. I don't understand that, but that's the reality.

[00:03:27] Okay, but they need to also pass single issue bills, and they need to get a bunch of wins behind them. And they need to do it now. All right, former congressman Steve Stockman said, you know, I know you think you've got two years until the next House election cycle and four years until the next president, but you don't. You've got less than a year to get something significant enough on the table that you can run on. And if you don't do that, you're going to be in bad shape and lose. And if you do do that, you know, you can make a difference. So you've got a year.

[00:03:57] But, man, if we're going to get this on, you know, Donald's desk by Memorial Day, and then that slips, and then pork gets put in, and pretty soon you're back to the same clown show, Mike Johnson, that we've seen before. The reason I'm bringing this up is you need to get some wins behind you. That's the reason for these teeny pills. If you can come back and say, hey, man, we've been working at this for a month, and we've got 100 bills passed, funding the proper rule of limited government, constitutional line items that have passed, other items that aren't constitutional we've rejected.

[00:04:26] You know, now you're really starting to talk turkey in a meaningful way, right? Anyway, I bring this up because time zone. I mentioned that. I have not forgot it. I just wanted to kind of set the stage, tell you the end from the beginning so you know what we're talking about, and then set the stage, and then drill into this. Daylight savings time, ladies and gentlemen, starts at 2 a.m. on Sunday, March the 9th. So it started January 16th, so you've got less than 60 days until March 9th, right?

[00:04:57] What do you got? If it's the 16th, you've got February 16th. March 16th would be 60 days, so you've got to take off some for February, take off some of the night. You've got like 50 days or something right now. They've never been able to get this done. But I think now the climate's right to say let's just move back to standard time. Oh, whoa, we're already on it. Good. Now let's just not spring forward. Now you've got to make bills change people's lives for the better for them to be able to see it.

[00:05:26] But if they got that passed, which I think they can do because it's not that controversial. There's as many Democrats that don't like the daylight savings time as there are Republicans. I'm sure of it. And if you could pass an up and down bill, hey, we're going to stay on standard time as a nation. We're not springing forward in a month and a half or two months, whatever it is. We're not doing that. We're going to go ahead and change your life for the better. This is gone. It's been stupid. Back in the 70s, they had permanent daylight savings time. Everybody hated it.

[00:05:55] Okay, the government messing with the time has got to stop. This is the chance to really double down and get something productive done that will affect your life. When daylight savings comes, they can say, look, you're not springing forward. We've got stability in the nation. This is just the start of our efforts. You can pick another issue that's non-controversial if you want to. And if you do, I say good on you because that's my point. They need to get 20 of these, 50 of these that are life-changing, that are beneficial,

[00:06:22] that can really make a difference in our lives on the table. So far, they've done nothing. I don't even know what Congress is doing except for the Senate's got a clown show where they're arguing with everybody about, you know, Pam Bondi this and Marco Rubio that and whatever, right? Pam Bondi defends Cash Patel. Well, good for her. But Eldon Stahl, what do you think? I'm saying you've got to do single-issue bills to prove what you've accomplished,

[00:06:50] to give straight up and down votes on things, and you've got to get some wins under your belt. And they're not even starting out right, Eldon. I don't see it. I don't see it at all. Oh, yeah, I agree. And, hey, Sam, do you know when the daylight savings time started? Do you know? I know that in the 70s, they had a big permanent daylight savings time pitch, so that was kind of the recent latest manipulations or whatever. I know that Ben Franklin pushed for it in the beginning, and back in the 1800s, it kind of started.

[00:07:19] It's been through all kinds of, quote, iterations and historical changes, though, based on the states and the scope and the time zones and all that stuff. So the modern version of it, though, started World War I. Yeah. And then it got modified slightly in the 70s. Yeah, slightly. Right. But, you know, last I checked, World War I has been long over, right? We celebrate Veterans Day. I think so. 100 years, yeah. Plus. Yeah.

[00:07:47] I mean, there may be somebody still alive that was alive when World War I was going on, but very few. Maybe we should, you know, one big thing that came out of World War I, out of the Wilson administration, was basically the idea that we need really smart people in government that can make these decisions for us and manage our lives.

[00:08:15] Well, that's antithetical to what the founders of our country came up with, right? That their idea was people can make decisions for themselves, like deciding what time is it. Oh, serious? Yeah, totally. That's right. That's what I'm saying is that, look, this is clown show, and don't you think getting a few significant life-changing wins on the table would be the way to go?

[00:08:43] Or am I just naive on this? No, that's right. I mean, we need to have – and finally, you know, I mean, actually, you look across the world, okay? Europe, Western Europe especially, and the United States, and there's a few other countries, but mostly there are countries around the world, if they had daylight savings time, they got rid of it.

[00:09:12] But now we just got the U.S. and, you know, Europe that are doing daylight savings time, and why are we doing this? So let me ask you a question. Do you think they'll get this solved before March 9th, or do you think we're springing forward? Well, considering that this has come up a number of times and they have not done anything about it,

[00:09:39] I wouldn't hold my breath expecting daylight savings time to go the way of the dodo in the United States. But, you know, maybe if Trump would actually get behind it and say, you know what, can we finally stop doing – Well, Trump and their Republicans have already said that they're going to do something about it. Well, yeah, some have. Some have. And thank goodness. I mean, at least –

[00:10:02] All I'm saying is this, if you don't release Stuart Rhodes, a nonviolent American that had no prior record, a Yale-based attorney, you know, great guy, if you don't free Stuart Rhodes come first, second, third, whatever, next couple of days after the inauguration next week, and if you don't deal with the daylight savings time issue, that's a big issue and a small issue, but important issues.

[00:10:30] I'm telling you, you can use a few of these issues as kind of bellwethers. Sure. Belden, to kind of say, are we going to get anything done or not? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Let's talk about it with Brian. Yeah, they proved his book on him. We'll do it in seconds. Amen. Our prayers are with Stuart Rhodes. He wrote an incredible article, by the way. It's in the Gateway Pundit. We'll check that out, too, as the broadcast unfolds. You're listening to Liberty Roundtable Live.

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[00:13:15] The Rust family for generations, three generations, has been helping people understand precious metals. Most important issue, take possession of your precious metals, baby. You've got a friend in the honest money business over at FreeWaterCoinCo.com. Brian, welcome back, sir. Thank you much, Sam. Glad to be with you, Eldon. So we're talking about daylight savings time because on the 9th of March, 2 a.m., they're going to kick that dude in and we've got to spring forward. So we've got less than 60 days.

[00:13:43] Congress, I don't know what they've been doing for the last 10 days, but for the most part, they've been wasting time, in my opinion. Mike Johnson says he wants to get a big, old, beautiful, big, beautiful pill. You know, an omnibus spending bill over to Donald by, you know, Memorial Day. We've talked about that in the past. But here's the deal. Bill, I think you need to have teeny bills up and down votes so that you know where people stand on issues so that you can basically say, listen, we've passed the 47 bills that are all constitutional that fund the proper role of limited government. We know who's against the right things. We know who's for it. Okay.

[00:14:13] And these tiny bills. And then they need to focus on things that will change our lives for the better and get some gains on the docket. The sooner they have gains they can tout, things they can promote they've accomplished, the better off we're all going to feel. I already see they're missing the boat. Do you think we're going to spring forward on March 9th, or do you think they're going to get a handle on this thing? Well, they've been talking about this before. So, you know, I guess they'll continue to kick this can down the road. It would be great to see a new change and make the change.

[00:14:42] And, you know, but they seem to just, they seem to not really, they talk about it, but they don't seem to do anything about it. I like your idea with, you know, maybe small bills. We can see how people vote. That's a great idea, accountability and kind of what our leaders are supposed to be doing and what they're doing. Well, then you're going to also find out where the real problems and the real debates are with single-issue bills. You're going to say, hey, you know what? These guys are against this. What better way than to take it to the public with a single up-and-down issue bill and say, listen, these clowns don't want this.

[00:15:12] Okay. You could leverage the American people like you wouldn't believe if you did single-issue, single-subject, small bills that people could literally, mere mortals could understand and deal with and everything else. And I don't understand why is Mike Johnson just like, we're going to get this big, beautiful bill on Trump's debt. Trump wants a big, beautiful bill. No debt ceiling. He calls it ridiculous. Mike Johnson wants this big, beautiful bill idea. When are they going to learn? Yeah.

[00:15:39] The issue I find is that these big, beautiful bills are a mess because they're so full of junk that we don't understand half of it. We don't even, you know, I mean, the reading of them and so on and what they're – I think they just hide so much stuff in these big bills.

[00:15:59] I just – I absolutely – let's get to just single bills where we can kind of read and identify and really kind of know and focus what they're accomplishing instead of just – yeah, I mean, it's chaos when they bring these big bills. Yeah, like do you want to study the sexual habits of butterflies for $2 billion, Brian? Yes or no? You know, if you're for it, let's just absolutely punish your name as a – or publish your name as a clown. If you're against it, then it's dead. Next? Next? See, we could do these kind of things.

[00:16:28] The dumbest things – hey, do you want to spend, you know, $462,000 on a toilet seat for the military? No, I don't. Next? See, you could literally take most of these clown show stuff one at a time and just mock the resistors. Right. You've hit it right there, and that's what needs to happen. I mean, we're fed up, I think, as an American people with all the chaos and the clutter that just, you know, causes our life havoc here.

[00:16:58] So I hate to give Joe any credit, but Joe Biden and clowns literally have this deal where they're now, I guess, to the FDA or whatever you want to call it. They basically said, hey, warning of cancer or tie to cancer. However, U.S. bans red dye. Now, red dye's never been good for you. It's been tracked to cancer and all kinds of problems and all kinds of products. They just ban it. Well, so it looks like the FDA and Joe Biden's doing more good right now than Congress is.

[00:17:27] I don't see anything coming out of Congress of any value. I mean, it's just insanity. So I'm not here praising Joe, but I am saying it's good to get rid of red dye. It's good to get yellow five, red three, whatever the crap they are. You get rid of all those. And I know they make things look more appealing, but they're very dangerous for your health, right? But where has been the FDA this whole time when it's been cancer-causing and cancer-associated and all this kind of stuff? They've just let it go.

[00:17:54] But now they're finally doing something about it because they're worried, hey, we want to have something on the docket that we started that RFK or Trump didn't start. So see, I just don't understand how we get scooped on this stuff all the time. It just doesn't make any sense. Yeah, you've hit it. I think we have a lot of institutions right now that let's talk about the Fed. Why don't we get rid of the Fed? How about the FDA? They don't seem to be doing it. It seems like all these organizations don't really seem to – it's all about money.

[00:18:22] How much can you put money in my pocket type thing as a leader of this and a leader of that? I'm not really going to help do much to help the people, I think. And where's all the environmentalists when they want everybody to drive into work, Eldon? You would think the environmentalists would rage and say, are you kidding me right now? We can't have all these people on the roads. Right. What's happening? Yeah, it's crazy.

[00:18:52] I don't know where we go with all this, but I just – I find this stuff just interesting. And, you know, maybe I'm just not the strategic thinker that I think I am. Maybe not. But I look at this, though, and I just think some of this seems so simple, so common sense, Brian, that I have a hard time thinking others haven't thought of it, but yet there's nothing to it. What the heck? Well, that's it, the common sense. We've talked about that over the years. Where's the common sense? And we just shake our head at some of these things.

[00:19:22] Just, really? That's going to happen? Or they're talking about that? Really? I mean, you just – I mean, we're back to junior high days. It feels like it as they're about ready to take another recess, sir. It feels like that. I'll tell you what. All right, where's gold sitting, Brian, in the Honest Money Report? Gold's at $2,716.70. Whoa, it's up a bit. $2,716. What is it?

[00:19:52] $2,716.70. $2,716.70. Man, it's up quite a bit, folks. That's surprising a little bit to me. All right, where's silver? Silver's at $30.62. And silver hasn't changed much, huh? Yeah, that's the one. It seems to be a little more manipulated.

[00:20:14] You know, I read an article here by Sam Meharry that he was talking about the silver market runs another big market deficit, stating the fact that the fourth quarter ran in its fourth consecutive deficit last year. So anyway, industrial demand, modest increase in supply while results of physical deficits. So there's just things that are going on there. Well, which means the paper plays even more fake news lie than it's ever been.

[00:20:43] Yeah, exactly right. And it means the ratio is even more extreme. What is it now to one? We're still 88.72 to one. Back on January 2nd, it was 90 to one. And it's kind of the yo-yo effect we talk about.

[00:21:02] But still, the lining factors are, realistically, if you've got so much here in physical silver and yet your demand is greater, obviously, because of consumption. You know, consumption as far as, you know, what are the three main electrical grids, your electrical vehicles, your batteries, your renewable energy technology, all these things that are coming up. Well, you only have so much silver. And so, yeah.

[00:21:32] All right. Do you think Donald's going to buy Greenland? And if so, what do you think Greenland's worth, Brian? Well, that's a good question. We have all this extra cash, I guess, laying around. You know, the dollar got stronger when Trump got in. Man, the dollar just rose a little bit. Man, it's just looking great. And I laugh at that. $36 trillion in debt. It's looking great. That's right. But that's a great question. I don't know.

[00:22:04] You know, Greenland, that's, yeah. That's a good question, Sam. I don't know. People are debating this right now, saying we've got to decide if we're going to tie it to the minerals that it relates to, if we're going to tie it to the economic prosperity of the United States. And is it an economic discussion? Is it just a security discussion? And the price varies wildly based on that. Have you looked into this at all, Ellen?

[00:22:32] Well, I don't know about the price. That's a really hard thing because, you know, the United States bought Alaska from Russia back way back in the 1860s, I believe. And, you know, at the time it was not known what minerals would be there. Now, maybe there's a way to better assess that today. But still, Greenland is mostly covered by ice.

[00:23:02] So how do you figure that out? I don't know. Well, and then the question becomes, what do you buy it in? Do you buy it in dollars or do you buy it in gold there, Brian? Well, do we have that much gold to buy it in? I don't know about that part. Fort Knox has a big globe, but we're just going to give you a paper. We'll hold that gold because it's not there, in my opinion. But we'll hold that and then we'll give you this piece of paper saying we own it. How's that?

[00:23:32] How's that going to work? And you can, you know, redeem it as long as you never do. Okay? Yeah, that's right. It's just weird. So how much would buying Greenland cost? Even the New York Times has an article about this. And I find this economically fascinating. Because we don't have any money. Yeah. Now, some are saying it's worth $150 million. Some are saying it's billions. Others are saying it would cost trillions to get.

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[00:28:59] Mr. President. Senator Kentucky. Reserving the right to object. I lived for four months in Asheville, worked at the VA hospital, still have fond feelings for Western North Carolina. But the thing is, is the reason why we won't do this in responsible ways is because the Senate voted to send all your money to Ukraine. I mean, they voted to send $200 billion to Ukraine. I've been all over the mountains of Appalachia when I ask people, would you rather that your senators take care of you here in Asheville or here in Pikeville, here in Appalachia, would you rather them send your money to Ukraine?

[00:29:27] I don't get anybody wanting to send a penny to Ukraine. Look, you can have all kinds of sympathy in the world for Ukraine, hostility towards Russia being the aggressor nation, but we don't have the money. We're $2 trillion in the hole. Interest this year is going to be $1 trillion. And as far as passing this, I'm willing to let it pass today. He's going to object to passing his own bill today simply because it gets paid for. I'm willing to let the bill pass, but take some of the fluff and boondoggle subsidies from the Green New Deal and put it into here. The money's sitting here. We put it into here for disasters.

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[00:30:27] Hey, man, what is it going to cost to buy Greenland? People are all over the map in terms of the numbers. It's shocking, and I agree with anybody else. How do you figure that out? How much is that thing worth? Well, let's just kind of try it like this, folks, for starters. I don't know if you know this, but in 1946, the United States offered Denmark $100 million in gold to buy Greenland.

[00:30:54] That's according to documents in the U.S. National Archives. I find that fascinating. They say that's equivalent to about $1.3 billion in today's dollars taking inflation into account. So, you know, they're talking about $1.3 billion if you compare it. I think you're going to have to pay north of that to get it for a variety of reasons. I think by Donald Trump talking big about it so publicly, he did himself a disfavor.

[00:31:23] I'm not a perfect negotiator, but I'm telling you right now, to run around and say, I'm going to buy something, you'll see it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. You know, pretty soon they're going to be like, yes, you are, and you're going to pay dearly for that sucker, baby. He should have kept quiet, worked on the art of the deal, came out with, I bought it. Or, you know, the equivalent, right? I'm not very smart, Brian. Every time I look at all this stuff, I go, what are these clowns doing? This art of the deal guy runs around telling you that I'm going to get this thing.

[00:31:48] And if you're going to keep your promise, if you're going to keep your – they can just extract as much as they can get out of it for you. Now, I find this interesting. Didn't X or Twitter get purchased for $44 billion? Yeah. Many are saying that he overpaid for it. They say it's worth now about a third of what it was once worth. But here's what's interesting. The Biden administration now trying to sue Elon Musk, claiming that he got a bunch of stock for cheaper than he should have.

[00:32:15] So, you know, these numbers really are fascinating because it all comes down to what are you willing to pay for something? At the end of the day, supply doesn't even matter. At the end of the day, it's demand. And if there's no demand, something's not worth anything. If there's a lot of demand, things are worth a lot. That's the reality check. So all you did was create this massive demand discussion. Now Russia might bid on, you know, Greenland or something. I'm just saying this thing's so weird. Everything they're doing is just backwards, Brian. It's awesome.

[00:32:45] You're right. You're right on. I mean, I'll buy it. I'll buy it. I'll buy it. I love it. You know, the thing is, if we take a step back, I think we're buying Ukraine. We've been pumping billions into that. We probably own Ukraine right now. That's probably the talk. From the money we've spent, there's no question from the reality check, we owe nothing, buddy. We've been betrayed and, you know, ripped off, right? Yeah. No doubt about it.

[00:33:13] We're worth the, you know, I'd be going into, if we're going to pay for this, you know, I'd like, you know, your Rand Paul. And then, look, we're sending all this money over there. How about we keep it here and take care of our own? You know, we got wildfires that are burning California into the ground. And, you know, who's going to pay for that? You know, but we're sending money over here to Ukraine to take care of all those people.

[00:33:33] You know, I'd be, you know, if we're going to pay for these wars that we seem to be in and they want us to pay for, well, then let's take the resources and recoup our investment. Let's take the resources. We're coming over. We're going to pay. We're going to help you. We're taking your resources. We're going to get repaid the investment that we're putting into your country. And if you don't like it, we're not doing nothing. You know, but yet we don't. No, let's just keep pouring money over there because we need to or have to. That's a yeah, it's a crock. All right.

[00:34:02] I find this interesting from an inflationary point of view. Back in 46, they say we offered 100 million for Greenland. Now they're saying in today's equivalent dollars, that would be 1.3 billion. So 100 million to 1.3 billion. Isn't that a 13 times increase? Yeah. Is that right? Am I thinking about this right, Eldon? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So a 13 fold increase.

[00:34:29] You got to ask yourself, what was minimum wage in 1946, huh? I got to look that up. But I look at this thing and I kind of think, I don't think they're really giving real inflation reality here, though. I think it's more like 35, 40 times. Brian, what do you say? Well, you're probably right. But the bottom line is, do we have even money to buy Greenland? No, sir. We're $36 trillion in debt, must I remind us all. There you go. No, we don't have money for that at all.

[00:34:59] However, you got to say, well, are we going to talk about it economically? Are we going to talk about the minerals under the ground that we want? Are we going to talk about national security discussions? You know, what are the discussion points? So, you know, that's significant in and of, just so you know, there's only like 56,000 people that even live on the island. Yeah. It's cold. Yes, it is, my friend. So, you're thinking like a 1031 exchange type of thing? You know, it's fascinating, though.

[00:35:27] I did compare the cold really quick and then we'll get to Eldon. I did compare the cold and it was colder in the Northeast when it was snowing than it was in Greenland. And I found that fascinating. Anyway, Eldon? I think we could do a 1031 exchange, you know, just do probably the, okay, let's take the UN headquarters place and exchange that for Greenland. Can we do that? I love it.

[00:35:57] Now you're getting something, buddy. Maybe. The only thing we could do is we could just have the general government basically raise money by, you know, giving all the lands back they stole. And then would, you know, those states that have a bunch of land, like in Utah, you know, 80 plus percent of the land is controlled by the federal land. Right. They could just sell the federal land and buy Greenland. They could just go ahead and do that and then buy Greenland. What do you think of that, Brian? You get held and hit it. I love it. That's really good. Hey, man, the art of the deal guy is getting some run for his money now with the Liberty Roundtable Live Think Tank, people.

[00:36:25] I'm just saying it's just so weird to me, this whole thing. Why would Donald run around saying, I'm going to buy it, I'm going to buy it, I'm going to buy it, I'm going to buy it, I'm going to buy it, I'm going to buy it? I mean, I don't think that would lower the cost, would it, to just do that? You know? No. I just don't see how that would lower your costs. It just increased. So I just find the whole thing very fascinating. This guy's supposed to be the art of the deal guy. Well, you're right. I don't know what's going on there. Do you think shouting, I'm going to buy it over and over and over worldwide is

[00:36:54] going to lower the cost? But I just don't see how that can happen. Are there any other competing bidders? Well, not yet. But that's kind of my point. If you keep pitching this, pretty soon Denmark said, yeah, we're going to sell that thing to China or sell that thing to Russia or whatever. Yeah. You know. Now, the folks in Ireland are saying we want independence where Denmark's saying it's not for sale. So the question becomes, does Denmark have a right to have this weird, I don't know what

[00:37:23] you call it, territorial or so-called self-determining island that they control? Anyway, I just find the whole thing very strange there too, Brian. Yeah, I think this is just one thing they push aside and let's get to the real, let's shut down the Fed or IRS or let's, you know, those would be things I would think would be more thought after than the elements there.

[00:37:52] Now, I got an interesting question for you. So they said that they offered $100 million in gold for this thing. So in equivalent, it would be $1.3 billion. So that's 13 times. But if they offered it in gold, Brian, what was gold worth back in the day versus what is gold worth now? You'd have to put together a little bit of an equation, but it's through the roof, buddy. If you really, because we're not talking dollars. See, that's what we think.

[00:38:20] But if you read the story carefully, they offered $100 million in gold. Right. So what was $100 million in gold worth in our dollars back in 46? And what would a $1.3 billion, whatever number they want to say, what would that be worth? I mean, I'm having a hard time kind of putting this together. I mean, gold was like back in those days, like $30 an ounce, right? Yeah, that's exactly right. $30 an ounce. Let's go with that. Because I know they pegged me at $35 later is my point.

[00:38:49] And I don't know the exact number, but I know that's a safe number to count on, right? That's exactly right. Yep. All right. So if it's $100 billion in gold, I got to times that by $30 to get dollars, right? Yeah. Okay. Well, $100 billion times $30 is, I mean, $100 million times $30 is what, $3 billion? Yeah. Is that right? I think so. Okay. So if it's $3 billion in those days, now what would it be in our day?

[00:39:17] I mean, if you times that times $13 like they're doing, you'd be at $40 billion. But I think the number's gone way up from that because one ounce of gold now is worth like $2,700. Yeah. So we're $200 billion? $1 trillion. So, you know, we're talking, see, do you see how I said some people are saying you might get it for $150 million? Others are like, no, it's going to take closer to a trillion.

[00:39:43] It all depends on how you play this dishonest paper money game and where we really are in reality, right? You're correct. So I'm not very smart, but you could take $100 million and divide it by 30 and you could get how many ounces of gold that is. Then you could times that by 2,700 and you'll see where we're really at, right? Yeah. What do you think? Should we try that?

[00:40:13] Yeah, man, come on. I know this sounds funny, but hey, nobody does this kind of stuff but me. Well, that's the problem, Sam. That's the problem. $100 million divided by 30, people. Ready? $3,333,000. Okay. $3,333,000. Okay, hold on. Wow.

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[00:43:03] All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're talking, when you really figure it out, if you look at what gold was when we offered $100 million in gold for Greenland back in 46, go look at the archives. You'll see we did it. They didn't do it. They said no. Denmark said no. Now you put that, they play these games and say, oh, man, if you do the inflation, and no, they're playing games because they just switched from gold to dollars in their configurations. They're all out in the weeds.

[00:43:27] The fact is, if you do gold then, what, 46 to now, 70 years ago, whatever it is, right, 75 years ago, you're going to have to offer gold again. You can't just go, yeah, we offered you gold back then. Now we're going to offer you paper. They're going to laugh in your face. So if you do gold then and you figure it all out and you take the $100 million in gold and divide it by $30 an ounce, which is what it was worth then about, and now you times it by $2,700 because that's what an ounce of gold is worth now. Now people are like, oh, Sam, the gold and silver, that doesn't hold the wealth very well. Are you off your rock?

[00:43:57] That means we'd have to pay a trillion dollars almost, $800 plus billion to get Greenland. And as Brian wisely pointed out, sir, we don't have it. You're right. We don't have it. We don't have that. So I don't know where they're going to, you know, we just going to, and they're not going to, why would they take our currency? See, that's the key. They wouldn't. Eldon? Well, I think you're right.

[00:44:23] We've, although, like we said, we've got, there are a lot of federal lands, which should not be federal lands. It should be sold off. Maybe that would be the thing to do it. But I don't see, you know, how, say, borrowing from whoever is going to help things if we do buy Greenland.

[00:44:48] And although Greenland may have a large amount of accessible, possibly, minerals, oil, all that, that is, I'm not sure how much potential there is there. So, Brian, where do we go with this kind of thing? I think that we need to quit spending time on trying to buy Greenland for a trillion dollars in gold, which we don't have.

[00:45:16] And I think we need to maybe try to get a single win, like let's see if we can't reduce spending so we don't have to raise the debt ceiling. Something like that, Brian. Yeah, I think the question is, if we go back to your first comment, and let's just get back to one thing at a time, not jump out here and start talking about something else. Let's just get one thing at a time, like you said before. Let's put one bill on the table here. Let's see how we can improve our economy.

[00:45:44] Let's see how we can bring money back into the pockets of maybe the middle class or those that are struggling the most. Let's just start accomplishing these little tasks at hand that make sense and that we need. And let's take the trash or the rubbish bill and so on, and let's just get rid of them because it's a joke, some of this stuff. You want Dojons steroids, don't you, Brian? That's it.

[00:46:14] Now, the sad part to me is Elon Musk said we're going to get $2 trillion in savings out of this thing. Now he's already backed off and said we might get $1 trillion. He's already lowered the top number, chopped it in half before he even starts negotiating. See, I don't understand that kind of stuff either. I would come back and say I've decided instead of $2 trillion, it's going to be $3 trillion, maybe $4 trillion. And then if I get $1.9, people are like, okay, all right. But if I go, I'm going to get $2 trillion, and then a month later I come back, two months later, and I go, yeah, maybe I'll get $1 trillion.

[00:46:43] You're going to end up with like $500 million is all, or billion, I mean, $500 billion. That's not even enough to matter. I mean, yes, it's better, but we're still going in the wrong direction so fast we're going to fail, Brian. Well, words are cheap, and I think they're throwing numbers out there and saying things that they don't know for sure what's going to happen. So that's just cheap. But I think we as an American people, let's put our country back creating a safe environment.

[00:47:11] Let's get rid of the illegals or the criminals or accountability for those that have caused harm and so on instead of – Well, Biden opened up or – I talked to somebody, and they just letting these prisoners out. You know, Bell Boseman was in my store and was talking, and they're just – They're putting criminals in for a day, and then they just released them. And so there's no –

[00:47:38] Yeah, unless you stand up for liberty, and then you're in there for life, bro. Yeah, that's exactly right. But that's what I'm saying. Let's get back to just, okay, let's accomplish one thing at a time, and let's move down this and start making America great again. And let's start with small successes, though. We don't need to run around and try to take back the Panama Canal and buy Greenland tomorrow. We need to see if we can't get rid of the time zone change so we can all rest easy for a change. And then we need to start, you know, working on single things that matter to the American people.

[00:48:06] Yeah, I want you to show me how much you've decreased in foreign aid. That's what I want to see first. Right. Right. Now, that's what I'm talking about too, Sam. That would – boy, how smart that would be. Well, hey, that's too smart. We can't do that. I just don't really understand where we are and what's going to happen. When I pray for President Trump's administration, don't get me wrong, people. I just – I have my doubts, though. What's going to happen come Monday? Is it going to be a peaceful day? We've asked for a humble inauguration.

[00:48:35] He raised $200 million for his inauguration and some of his administration's transition stuff. I'm saying save that money. Maybe you say you're going to buy Greenland with that, right? And then save that money and have a humble inauguration and say we're going to let everybody watch it on TV. We're not going to have a big event. The national security concerns are too great. We want to make sure there's a peaceful, appropriate transfer of authority. And, you know, that's where it is. That's what we're advocating for. But no one's listening to us on that either, Brian.

[00:49:05] That's right. That's exactly right. And I think, you know, what would be the next shock if all of a sudden he had something going on and maybe he was assassinated there? Wouldn't that be a crush right off the bat? So let's be smart about all this that's going on and let's make America great. Let's bring God back into the picture. Let's, you know, family and, yeah, help anyway. Well, then Kamala could step up and say Joe's derelict in his duty and he can't handle it anymore.

[00:49:34] And since we never properly transferred power because the other guy's gone and because of this and that, I mean, it would be a debate on who's even in charge. Yeah. See, there you go. How well. Because you would say, well, it should fall to J.D. Vance, but not if nobody's sworn in, it wouldn't, right? That's right. That's exactly right. So I don't know. And I pray nothing goes wrong. Don't misunderstand me. And I'm not telling you that I have any intelligence that something's gone wrong necessarily. I'm just saying it seems so risky to me. And you kind of think, what's the value in it?

[00:50:03] Just pomp and celebration or what? I mean, I don't get it really. Well, I think everybody likes a party and so let's party big. I disagree. I think we just agree with you and let's just be smart about this whole thing. I'm not saying something's going to happen either, but I just think that let's just be smart. Imagine that. I say the party's over, people. It's time to go to work and fix this great country, to leave our children and our grandchildren and so on generationally. Leave them a better place than we found it.

[00:50:33] I mean, isn't that a fundamental, simple principle that everybody can agree on, you would think? And so let's take the steps. Let's make sure that we move in those directions. And I think a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, before you know it, a little bit over some time becomes quite a bit. I think we need to start there and not start on these colossal, we're going to change the world tomorrow ideas all the time that end up just getting quagmired. And nine times out of ten, go south. Don't go the way you intend them at all. And anyway, I digress.

[00:51:03] Right, what are we looking at in terms of honest money? If I'm going to go ahead and buy Greenland and I'm going to get gold, what should I get first, Brian? Well, let's put some silver nickels up there and we can start with that and then go to a dime, quarter and a half. I mean, yeah. I'm going to pull out my piggy bank because I'm buying Greenland, Brian. Let's go ahead and do that. Got some wood nickels, got some silver nickels. What's the next thing? I mean, are we supposed to, is it we're supposed to like a widow's mite?

[00:51:32] She throws all that she has in her two mites. Are they coming to us now and saying we'd like everybody to throw in a few mites? That's how we run this radio network, by the way. Just like that. There you go. What do you think, Eldon? Are we on to something here? Do you think this hour, is this hour just kind of a waste of time? To me, it's supposed to be a think tank to really generate real change and real answers.

[00:51:56] Well, you know, it's good to think about these things because, you know, sometimes people just ignore them and things can be very important, very consequentially, you know? Yeah, I just think we come out of the gate saying there's not a turkey in every pot, ladies and gentlemen. That's the commonest way. If you want a pot, you've got to buy one. If you want a turkey, you've got to catch one or buy one. And, you know, that's how this thing works. And you all got to work hard. And Governor Bradford, back in the day, discovered it.

[00:52:26] And we're just reiterating the truth because history repeats itself. And therefore, we're going to start out really humble. And we're going to start out by saying we're going to abolish the education department. We're going to go ahead and, you know, get the daylight savings time off the table. We're going to go ahead and decrease foreign aid and spending across the board. Rand Paul single-handedly created a report showing a trillion dollars in government waste. I mean, Elon doesn't even have any work to do to implement that, Brian.

[00:52:55] That's exactly right. My comment would be there's a 66% increase in copper. So maybe start with the poor man's silver's copper. So let's start maybe buying a little copper. I wonder if they got copper in Greenland, you know? Yeah. Buy a big old store of copper there, you know? Maybe they got rhodium in Greenland, Brian. I mean, Kirk Grosby would be all happy. Hey, rhodium's sitting about $4,475. So, yeah, maybe it's up.

[00:53:24] Kirk Grosby's grudge full just done him well. But it is about strategic control of resources in the world, though. There is something to that that I do say, hey, there's some value here. And I don't think we ought to make Canada the 51st state either. I don't like this expansionist idea, this under the banner of nationalism, America first. We're really promoting globalism if we're not careful, Eldon. Yeah. Yeah, good point. Boy.

[00:53:53] All these things come together, don't they? Yeah, when you listen to Liberty Roundtable, man, life changes. Eldon Stahl with us. Brian Rust with us. Over the past 50 years, the Brian Rust family, three generations, have been taking care of precious metals for folks. Helping you know what to get, why, and how to prosper. However, freewatercoinco.com is the website. You've got a friend in the honest money business. Thank you, Brian. You bet. Have a great day, guys. Thanks.

[00:54:22] I'm telling you right now, he's your man. Most important, most important, I'm going to say it again, most important advice, take possession of your metal. All right. Eldon Stahl, yours truly for hour two in seconds. God save the republic. All right. All right. All right.