Radio Show Hour 1 – 06/13/2024

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[00:01:12] You know, the checks and balances brilliantly put in place by the founding fathers. One of the peaceful restorative keys we still have at our fingertips. You got to count on that, ladies and gentlemen. There is so much to cover. There's never enough time.

[00:01:26] As you all know, the news just seems to exponentially increase. You know, I think there's a lot of news around, but now they're trying to overwhelm us with just headline after headline after headline.

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[00:01:53] but that you're actually involved in meaningful solutions, right? So we'll have Brian rest coming up. Our honest money report in a few minutes. But in the meantime, Steve Bannon is ordered to surrender for prison time or his prison term by July the 1st.

[00:02:12] You know, I've had a little bit of a tiff with Steve Bannon. He decided he couldn't attend our conference because I was attending the Constitutional Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association Conference. He found out that Sam Bushman was one of the leaders and organizers of it.

[00:02:27] He goes, Oh my gosh, I can't be with Sam Bushman. Steve, I don't mean to be offensive, but why not? You can hang out with Richard Mack. You're going to prison. I'm not. OK, let's be clear.

[00:02:37] You know, they've all called us all three racists and all kinds of lies about us. So sadly, Steve, you fell for the lies about me, brother. And what I challenge you to do is meet me in person, shake my hand,

[00:02:50] have me on your show and find out who I really am because you shouldn't let the mainstream clown media control the narrative, brother. Don't do that, please. Now, I don't have any anger or hatred towards Steve. I think it was a mistake on his part.

[00:03:05] I forgive him for it. Let's let it go. But Steve Bannon ordered to prison on July 1st. I think that's a travesty. I don't think Steve Bannon belongs in prison at all. I think it's a clown show, et cetera. Right? There you have it.

[00:03:20] Now you say, well, wait a minute, Sam, he defied Congress. I understand. I understand all that. But when does executive privilege matter? When do you have to appear? When don't you, et cetera? And so there you have it. Now, Steve Bannon filed a last ditch effort.

[00:03:42] It's an emergency motion, if you will, on Tuesday to avoid going to prison. He plans to appeal all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. My prayers are with you, brother. I hope you're successful. I think we've turned our courts into clown shows in many ways.

[00:04:01] All right? Now, the House recommends criminal charges against Garland. That's right. The Epoch Times.com House votes to hold A.G. Garland in contempt of Congress for failing to what? Comply with a subpoena to produce audio tapes of old Joe Biden.

[00:04:30] Republicans sought audio tapes of the president and his interviews with special counsel, her. And they've said, hey, we've got executive privilege over the tapes. The referral will now be made to the Justice Department, which is unlikely to prosecute the matter, but it's likely to end up in courts.

[00:04:52] Now, what do you think of that, ladies and gentlemen? You have these two... This is kind of interesting. And I think they're doing this on purpose, by the way, folks. They're trying to destroy everything that we hold dear.

[00:05:05] So what they're doing is they're having Donald Trump's team on one hand, Joe Biden's team on the other hand, go through similar scenarios. So take Steve Bannon and Garland. They both failed to obey. But, you know, where do we go, right? Let's see. What is it?

[00:05:32] What did Steve Bannon do? Well, failed to appear. What did Garland do? Failed to deliver tapes. But we're kind of on the same trajectory to a great degree, aren't we? Do they have to comply or can they thumb their nose at the courts? Now, that's the problem.

[00:05:50] You got a dilemma, don't you? Which side are you on? And I'm on the side of truth. So if Garland is going to be let go, because they say the Justice Department likely won't, you know, deliver on the charges, deliver on the recommendations from Congress,

[00:06:10] then they say the referral from Congress will now be made to the Justice Department, which is unlikely to prosecute the matter. So it might end up in the courts. OK, how do you say Garland can go free? But Steve Bannon can't answer.

[00:06:26] Garland is above the law and Bannon what? Not above the law. That's interesting. So, see, I'm kind of a guy that says let's let's have the truth. Either you're going to put people in jail for defying Congress or you're not.

[00:06:46] Now, which is worse, though, not showing up to testify or not delivering tapes? So, see, I personally think there's nuanced differences there. In my opinion, neither of them should be going to prison over this. But, you know, I think Steve Bannon should be forced to the stand.

[00:07:11] And then what Steve Bannon can do is he can say I plead the fifth, which he has every right to do. OK, so that's what in my opinion, Steve should have done. He should have shown up and he should have just played the fifth and said,

[00:07:25] Look, I don't have any. I have every obligation to be here. I don't have every obligation to talk to you. I can be here and my First Amendment says I have the right to speak freely and freedom of speech. I have also the freedom of silence.

[00:07:38] Silence sometimes is golden. So I would recommend to Steve Bannon, Hey, you shouldn't have defied the court. You should have went, but you should have declared the fifth and said, I'm not talking. I'm just not going to answer your questions at all. Period. End of paragraph.

[00:07:50] I will not answer any questions. I'm going to stand on the stand and you're going to hear silence. And you're going to say, Sir, we're going to swear you in. So help me God or whatever you do. I'm not swearing in anything. I'm not saying anything.

[00:08:00] So I'm not going to pledge or agree or anything to anything at all. And that's just not going to talk. I'm going to walk in there like a mute, just be silent. That's what I would have done if I was Steve Bannon. Nevertheless, Steve didn't show up.

[00:08:11] That's a problem. Garland didn't deliver the audio. However, I think that Garland should be forced to deliver the audio. And I think Steve Bannon should be forced to appear. And Steve Bannon can remain silent if he wants to. Do I think both of them are criminals?

[00:08:28] I don't think so. I think they're trying to exercise their First Amendment rights, et cetera. But when do you have authority to just defy courts or defy Congress or et cetera? Right. That's kind of what the problem is. There's also a nuanced difference.

[00:08:45] Garland is still a sworn executive or sworn in servant of the people. Steve's not right. Steve was when he was an advisor to the Trump administration. So there's a big difference between when you're a citizen versus when you have to carry out duty on behalf of the people.

[00:09:01] So I think there's a lot of differences between the Bannon situation and the Garland situation. But it's interesting that every time we have a situation, they parallel between Trump and Biden.

[00:09:10] Trump, wow, his classified documents, Biden's classified documents, Trump being hostilly, abusively treated or abusefully treated, whatever you want to call it, wrongfully treated. But then Joe, nothing. No problem. Same thing here. Garland, oh, no problem. You can defy Congress and not deliver the audio. No problem.

[00:09:28] But Steve, you're going to jail. So you got a problem with the different standard based on who you are or what side of the aisle you're on or whatever.

[00:09:35] I personally think that, hey, Joe and Donald should not have had those secret documents so blazingly out in the open like that. But I also agree their presidents and number one, they could have pardon themselves from this.

[00:09:50] And number two, the courts have already ruled that they you know what? The president can have those papers. He can decide what's classified and what's not and everything else. So, you know, I wouldn't convict Biden or Donald for the classified documents.

[00:10:06] I'd let both of them go beyond that. We've got bigger fish to fry, if you will. I think when it comes to Steve Bannon, I think he should have been forced to testify. And when I mean by forced to testify, I mean appear. You don't have to testify.

[00:10:19] You have the right to remain silent. You say no, you don't. Yeah, you do. You don't have to talk. Jesus Christ set the absolute perfect example and it would be for some of these leaders, Pontius Pilate and others. Right. So he doesn't have to talk.

[00:10:34] So I'm defending Steve Bannon and I'm saying Garland neither should go to jail over this, but both of them should be forced to deliver. Show up to Congress, Steve. Deliver the tapes, Garland. Biden and Joe, you're off the hook for the classified documents things.

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[00:13:26] Freewatercoinco.com is the website. That's freewatercoinco.com. Welcome to the broadcast, Brian. Thank you much, Sam. Glad to be with you. So I'm finding these cases very interesting between Steve Bannon and Merrick Garland. Both of them kind of defied Congress. One wouldn't show up. That's Steve.

[00:13:48] The other one wouldn't turn over audio tapes. That's Garland. Both of them held in contempt to Congress, but Steve has been ordered to report to prison by July 1. But they say Republicans will be making a referral to the Justice Department,

[00:14:03] which is unlikely to prosecute the matter so it might end up in the courts. My problem with this is, you know what? People want to say, well Sam, your favor one side and not the other. Wrong. I don't do that. Let's base this on principle.

[00:14:16] Even though those two cases seem similar, I don't think they are for a variety of reasons. Number one, Garland is currently a public official and Steve's not, first of all. But you know what? Why not force Steve to appear before Congress? You know what? You're going to Congress.

[00:14:32] But you don't have to talk, Steve. You can remain silent if you want to. No one can order you to speak. Jesus Christ sat silent and they didn't like it but they couldn't do anything about it.

[00:14:40] Same thing. Steve could just walk in there and not say a word. They can say, all right, we're going to put you under oath. Silence. Right? Okay. We're just not going to talk to you, but I will show up.

[00:14:51] Okay. Garland should be forced to turn over the audio. Okay. They should be forced to obey. Otherwise, we just thumb our nose at the courts. So I don't like what Steve's done here, but I think they've wronged Steve in this.

[00:15:04] And the double-sided or you know, what's good for the goose is not good for the gander idea kind of thing. Or somebody who's above the law, somebody who's not. Why is Garland above the law and Steve's not? Kind of a discussion. That's where the concern comes to me.

[00:15:17] Am I being fair about both sides here? I don't think we should treat them differently. I think we should do the same. You will obey the subpoena. Otherwise, what good is a subpoena?

[00:15:26] But yet, you know what? Steve can remain silent if he wants to. Nobody can force him to talk, right? So anyway, I think we ought to have not differences between people, but we ought to have the standards laid out.

[00:15:38] You will show up. You will obey and go from there. What do you say? Is this being fair? Well, I think you're right, Sam. There's no doubt about it. I think we're built on having transparency and so on and laws.

[00:15:58] And when we tend to not follow those laws, it's chaotic. And that's what we're seeing and have seen for years now. I mean, one side seems to just kind of do whatever they want to do.

[00:16:13] We have a president in the office that wants to do whatever he wants to do, regardless of the laws in order or in place. And it's kind of where what's happening here. I mean, it's you know, the judicial system is a joke.

[00:16:27] I mean, Trump's trial was a joke based on fact, mainly of where it was held and who did this and what the judge was trying to accommodate. It was a joke. And yet we're seeing this continually throughout what's going on here in the last number of years.

[00:16:46] I mean, just there's no it's all chaotic. There's no order. No one cares about the laws on the books or what we should be doing based on the Constitution.

[00:16:54] And I think that's kind of where we're at. So they all kind of just, well, we're not going to show you these or we're not going to turn these over.

[00:17:01] And perhaps there's stuff on these tapes that we need to see and they don't want to give that up. But they don't tend to care. And yet on the other side, they want, you know, let's put Bannon in prison and move forward on that.

[00:17:14] I mean, it's just it's one thing after another. And heads or tails. I don't know if the American people can even get heads or tails out of any of this stuff. They can't. And that's kind of why I say, look, we've got to transparently deal with this.

[00:17:27] I'm not just picking Steve Bannon's side and say he's fine and Garland's a thug and he's bad. Look, both of them don't have the right to violate the subpoena.

[00:17:34] You need to go to court if you respect the rule of law in America or you need to obey the court. But that doesn't mean Steve has to speak or testify, really. He can just sit there silently and say, you guys have drug me in here. Fine.

[00:17:48] But I'm not going to talk. And so I think I'm being fair to Steve. What I don't think is executive privilege just extends to all kinds of people around the president, whoever he may or may not be. Right. What is this executive right?

[00:18:01] For people that aren't even the president for that matter. Yeah, you're exactly right. And you know, you look at Trump, Trump went in. He could he have done the same thing like I'm not going to court. I'm not going to go in and show up at this case.

[00:18:14] I think it's a joke and he has said it's a joke, but he did show up. You know, they ask questions and they they ran him kind of through the ringer, which he knew would happen. But I think that's what needs to happen here.

[00:18:26] I mean, you need to show up. Maybe you're not going to say anything. You don't agree with what they're they're trying to push and point the finger at.

[00:18:33] But I think by law by by following the constitutional order and so on, the laws on the books, you show up. I agree. And I think it's wrong for both of Joe and Donald to have classified documents that they're kind of fast and loose with

[00:18:50] classified out in the open, not a wise move. But I don't think either president ought to be prosecuted. Presidents have done this forever. We need to tighten that up and say, look, you know what? Going forward, you can't do this and make the landscape more clear.

[00:19:03] I support that. But I don't see how you can hold Trump as a problem. And Biden's let go. That's kind of why that case stopped is they're realizing now there's some differences there. Joe had classified documents when he was V.P.

[00:19:19] Again, this is what I mean by executive privilege. When you're the president, you might get away with it on both sides. But when you're the vice president, you can't get away with that.

[00:19:26] It's a debate whether you should have had those documents in the first place and especially after you're out of office, you shouldn't have them. So there's some nuances there that are interesting.

[00:19:36] But again, I would just simply throw it away on both of those guys and say, look, we're going to tighten this up, Congress. If you don't like these presidents having these documents out in the open like that in your garage by your Corvette

[00:19:47] or in Mar-a-Lago where the dance party is going on or whatever you want to say, fine. You know what? Strengthen that law and say there will be prosecutions for this going forward.

[00:19:56] But you don't have the right just to look back and go, yeah, Bill got away with it. Barack got away with it. Joe's getting away with it. But hey, nail Trump to the wall. His case is different and all this. You've got to be fair on both sides.

[00:20:10] That's kind of the whole reason for the segment, whether we're talking about Garland and Bannon, whether we're talking about Joe or Trump, in my mind, we've got to be consistent and transparent about this and the reasons why. So I would force Garland to release the tapes.

[00:20:26] I would force Bannon to appear before Congress. I wouldn't throw him in jail. I'd just say you're going to appear before Congress. And then I would instruct Steve Bannon if I was his attorney or just as a talk show host, hey, go there because you got to, buddy.

[00:20:40] But don't say anything. You don't have to say anything. You just go there and walk around all silent like a mutant, you know, and just, you know, you could have a statement. Walk in with a sign on your shirt that says I will not speak.

[00:20:50] I'm forced to appear so I'm here. But I have every right to speak or remain silent. And I shall do just that. I just put a sign on your neck that says that.

[00:20:58] Just roll in there and mock the media and mock the clowns and just go in there. And then what are they going to do? They're going to say you have to speak. Well, where does that come from? Where's the law on that?

[00:21:11] If you have to speak, then what? You have to answer my questions. That's what they tried to say to Jesus Christ and he just sat there. Right. All right. Well, that's that's exactly right. I like, you know, consistent and transparent. The laws are for all basically.

[00:21:26] And I think that's what we're asking is as a, you know, the people, you know, we're just asking for some clarity for, you know, we don't want this circus anymore. We don't want this circus is just tearing this country apart. What we do want is consistency.

[00:21:44] We want transparency. We want, you know, I mean, you know, pants vice president. He had stuff in his garage or wherever at his place. I mean, it seems like they all have stuff. Hillary had stuff and I mean, it's just was common.

[00:21:57] But if that's not the order of things, then they need to establish a stronger order and say, you know what? This is just not going to happen. And where's the checks and balances to make this? You know, here's what here's the law.

[00:22:11] Here's how it what a state and and and you need to follow this. You can't just oh, you can follow it, but you can't follow it. You can and you can't I mean, it's this wishy washy here and there and toss to and fro basically.

[00:22:26] And how well has it worked? We well we know it doesn't. And so here's where we're at. So even though Steve Bannon hasn't been very kind or fair, honorable to me, I'm still defending him and giving him a way out of this thing. You know what?

[00:22:40] You don't need to put Steve Bannon in jail. That's a clown show. You don't need to put Trump in jail. You don't need to put Joe in jail for this. You don't need to put Donald J.

[00:22:49] OK, just ignore all that because I don't think there's grounds to do that. Hey, demand the tapes are delivered. You know what? If Garland won't deliver the tapes, there's somebody else in his office who can and will. And we're going to demand you do it.

[00:23:00] And Garland, you know what? You're going to deliver. We're going to get the tapes. That's all there is to it. We're going to have the audio. OK. And you've been held in contempt of Congress. But I think there needs to be teeth to contempt of Congress.

[00:23:12] Otherwise, what good is that? I mean, you can just demand everybody appear and no one shows up. What kind of a rule of law do you have in America? You know, it's just a clown show problem with order. And that's why I'd advise Steve to do this.

[00:23:23] But see, I'm defending Steve Bannon. I don't think he belongs in jail by any means. All of them are trying to play games with executive privilege. And that's a problem, too, I think. We really need to dig into that. What does executive privilege mean?

[00:23:35] Can I just say, hey, I'm a talk show host. That's like executive status. See, I don't get it where it applies, right? That's right. You're exactly right. And I don't think Bannon has basically given you... I just don't think he's done his homeworker.

[00:23:55] I mean, knowing you and seeing how your show works, you're not there to attack him and make him look funny on air. You've been fair with everybody that you've brought on. And so I just don't think he's done his homework because usually that's the effect.

[00:24:10] You know, I'm not coming on this show because I can't, or if you're going to be there, I can't, because I've heard this rumor. Well, what the heck is this rumor? I mean, go do your due diligence. Then there's not an issue.

[00:24:21] You already know the fact of what's going to happen. Those that are going to attack you already show the fact that they're going to attack you. So, yeah, you're not a threat, man. That's why I've invited Steve Bannon to find out who I am.

[00:24:33] Let's dig in and be brothers and get it done and take care of the country. That's what we both want to do. Let's get it on, Steve. Anyway, back in seconds with Brian Rusty, Honest Money Report, straight ahead on your radio. USA News. I'm Ryan Daniels.

[00:25:05] The Attorney General of the United States reacts to a big vote to hold him in contempt of Congress. USA's Tim Berg with those details. Attorney General Merrick Garland is calling a vote by the Republican-led Congress to hold him in contempt, deeply disappointing. The Attorney General adding the vote

[00:25:22] disregards the constitutional separation of powers. The vote came down to 216 to 207 with their particularly narrow majority. Republicans could only afford to lose two of their own as all Democrats voted against the measure. They lost one, Republican John Joyce of Ohio,

[00:25:38] who cited his role as a former prosecutor for voting no. The White House says a commutation of Hunter Biden's felony gun sentence in Delaware by his father and President Joe Biden is not out of the question. On Wednesday, Press Secretary Kareen Jean-Pierre

[00:25:54] told reporters the White House is not ruling out the move. However, she reiterated the President does not intend to pardon his son. Russian warships have arrived off the coast of Cuba for a planned visit. On Wednesday morning, a frigate and submarine

[00:26:10] were welcomed with honorary cannon fire from Havana Harbor. The stopover is viewed as a show of force by Russia, a longtime ally of Cuba, though both the U.S. and Cuba stated it poses no threat. Prior to their arrival, the ships conducted

[00:26:24] high-precision missile weapons training in the Atlantic Ocean. I'm John Schaeffer, USA News. The Russian military also set to conduct military drills this summer in the Atlantic and Caribbean Sea area. The Federal Reserve announcing Wednesday that it will keep interest rates unchanged.

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[00:30:22] You've got a friend in the honest money business. Honest Money Report starts now. Hi, Brian, where's gold sitting, sir? Gold is sitting at 2,327.30. 27.30, okay. That doesn't really change very much, has it? Hadn't changed. We've seen some yo-yoing up and down, profit taking, those kind of things. Yep.

[00:30:46] All right, gold? I mean silver? Silver's 29.44. So that's down a teeny bit, but again we really just don't see much change at all. Yeah, and they just play, you see a little bit of, we call it the weeding out factor because they kind of suppress the metals,

[00:31:04] they kind of rise and up and so the gameplay here for the big banks because this is paper driven obviously on the exchange, but the gameplay is to weed people out. If your gold kind of climbed up, so we've seen some profit taking.

[00:31:21] People have said, okay, you know, gold's at a high, we're gonna sell some of our gold. Silver kind of tends to get up there. I mean, we're not anywhere near the $50 we were at one point, you know, a few times, but people get tired of saying,

[00:31:37] okay, gosh, I was hoping this was gonna go to this. I've been holding and it's not going to this. I just gotta get out. I need the, you know, or they need the money, you know, with the markets that, excuse me, Sam,

[00:31:50] but the markets that because of cost of living and so on, people are using it and needing to sell some of their material. The factor is it protects paper. So if we're worried about the fact that we might be a devalued paper

[00:32:06] where our paper's worthless as it is now, these are the kind of things that you protect. These are assets, metal, physical metal protects that paper. Or stocks or IRAs and all that stuff. So we hedge this as one investment as you put this away for a rainy day

[00:32:27] or protecting your assets if they devalue your dollar. In other words, it is the necessary hedge for your whole portfolio is the point, ladies and gentlemen. All right, silver's at 29. What was it again? 44. 29.44. How much does it cost to get a silver,

[00:32:47] silver eagle, silver dollar 2024 right now then? So the silver eagles are running about the 38, $39 range. All right, so you got a $9 spread, I guess a $10 spread really. Nine to $10 spread on those right now. If you get rounds, it's about half that spread, right? Right.

[00:33:08] So 33, $34 to get like a one ounce round? Yeah, the one ounce rounds are sitting about the 33 range. $38. Looks like silver eagles are running about the 38, $50 range and up and rounds are around the $33 range. Now is there a difference between the latest silver eagle 2024

[00:33:33] versus getting an earlier year one? Is there a difference there? Yeah, they're usually about a dollar. I mean, the 24s are running about 38. The earlier dates are 37, but they go up based on year. So a 96 right now that sells for about 70, 80 bucks. 86 is probably 60 bucks, things like that.

[00:33:55] What makes those years so unique and worth more? Well, it was based on minage, availability and minage drives those. Okay, so realize folks, there becomes a little bit of a new mismatic reality to some of those coins. My goal is always to ignore the new mismatic side

[00:34:13] of the thing, because I'm not really like an art trader or this or that for the value that's perceived or whatever, because you know what? That'll disappear overnight if reality hits. Meaning there's economic real turmoil or headwinds. Those new mismatic ideas will kind of vanish in a hurry

[00:34:31] because people don't have the time or the money. We're not collectors now, we're realists. So I always try to stick to the base price. And the spread is because it has to be turned into a coin, has to be minted, has to be in the nicer it is

[00:34:46] or the better protected it is. In other words, the quality of the coin is better. That matters. But when you're talking about just a spread to get it into coins and the cost that it takes for dealers to deal with it and everything else, you're doing pretty good.

[00:34:59] So the most spread I like to accept is the Silver Eagle 2024, which says, hey, it's newly minted. It's a very nice, fresh, modern coin. I'm going to accept a little bit of a spread on that because I'm not going to lose too much on that spread.

[00:35:12] I'm willing to take that chance. But I try to get to as close to the real metal price as I can get within reason, Brian. Yeah, you know, that's exactly right. And that's kind of what we try to get our clients.

[00:35:24] What is your goal based on your portfolio? I mean, I have clients. I had a client the other day who came in. He didn't purchase this for me, but he bought a silver piece that was made into a rhinoceros. So it's about eight ounces.

[00:35:42] It was a, you know, and he used the desktop thing. And basically, it was a $200 piece based on metal. Might have maybe it sells for $250 and the value of just the silver and it's probably a couple hundred bucks. Well, he paid $680 for it.

[00:35:59] And he says, well, I paid $680 for this. I said, well, okay, you know, you didn't purchase this for me. You might check into that company who sold you that. But my clientele is not going to buy a paperweight for $650.

[00:36:14] Now, if you want to collect that way, you can. I'm not saying you can't collect that because there's plenty of stuff out there to unique things like that. But you have to understand if you're buying those kind of things because you enjoy that, that's what you like.

[00:36:27] Maybe that's your favorite animal, dah, dah, dah. But it's not per se an investment tool, per se, at that. It's something you enjoyed and you made the hobbit. It holds some value because of the metal. But that's a pretty big, a $600, $650 piece might not return you the $650

[00:36:49] and because you thought it would be cool, other people might not and they're not going to pay that amount for it. And I'm going to throw this out, Brian, as kind of a redneck businessman so people get this. This numismatic, this perceived value

[00:37:03] is kind of in the eyes of the beholder. You know, there's a really rhinoceros community out there that loves that unique mintage or creation of that coin. Then you might do well, but it's kind of like trading cards, baseball cards or something. You know, you can have one

[00:37:17] and as long as the world's doing fine, everybody's interested in it because they've got money and they kind of like that thing. There's a whole world out there for that. Great. But that world can disappear overnight. What we call that in the redneck world of business

[00:37:28] is it's called blue sky. Look, I'm going to give you the reality of your metal for sure, maybe even a little bit more, but I'm just not going to go for all that blue sky stuff and wise investors and people who buy businesses

[00:37:41] and people who are angel investors and everything else, they look at that and they say, look, I'm going to lend on the reality of the business as I perceive it, but I'm going to ignore the blue sky number, right? Right. That's exactly right.

[00:37:54] So it depends on how you and perhaps your income. I mean, maybe it is, you know, he could afford that 600. You know, he shouldn't be irritated. The fact I'm not paying him 600 is what I'm trying to say is because look, you bought that

[00:38:10] knowing it had a high premium and supply to man might on the secondary market that markets not really kind of there and we get promotional companies which are not a good thing for this industry in a sense because most cases they don't buy anything back.

[00:38:27] They just really hype it up. This is a low-manage thing. Dada, this is and it's high grade and so on and you're going to remember of work, right? They always say limited number of special run of whatever. It's always, you know, they want you to be this perceived

[00:38:43] scarcity is kind of the reality and that may be factual. But it isn't real meaning that it's factual that there may be only a certain number made but it isn't real about the scarcity and that relating to the blue sky dollars that it represents

[00:38:57] and that's the reason that I spend time on this like we're talking through this prime because that's really what you guys provide for folks as people kind of decide what their goals are and how to invest in everything else at freewatercoinco.com.

[00:39:09] You're basically saying I'll talk through this with you and let you know had that guy basically said I want to buy this rhinoceros and this metal, you know, you would have highlighted to him look there's a lot of blue sky in there.

[00:39:19] I mean if you're fine buying that blue sky because it matters to you fine, but be aware that you may not be able to, get a return or a ROI return on investment for that. And that's really the talk through that helps people

[00:39:31] in my opinion, you want to manage those expectations and you want a guide to help you. And so you'd say, well, you know, hey what's the world out there for a rhinoceros kind of a silver coin like or silver, whatever you want to call it figure like this

[00:39:42] or whatever and the answer is A, it might be really cool to you. You might think that's awesome, but there might not be a secondary market for that. Engaging and understanding that secondary markets important if you're into the new mathematic or the blue sky numbers.

[00:39:55] Otherwise, if you're like me, you're just a redneck kind of guy that just says, hey man, I just want the price of the metal and I want to get as little spread as I can get. Now I'll take a brand new minted coin in 2024

[00:40:04] and take a little bit of a spread for it because if I keep the coin nice, hey, it might be worth a lot like these specialty years that we're talking about. And if I look through all my coins and find the 1986 ones and spin off those,

[00:40:16] I might spin off 10 of those and buy 100 of the 2024s or 2022s or whatever, that's wise business. So a little manageable spread might make some sense, but if you're not very careful, you just get taken advantage of nine times out of 10. Go ahead and skip the break.

[00:40:33] Thank you so much. Nine times out of 10, if you have a big new mathematic spread on something or blue sky number or something, nine times out of 10, you won't get your money back, Brian. Yeah, you're exactly right. And we try to educate in the fact of somebody,

[00:40:46] you know, the promotional companies, you got to know what you're buying as well. I mean, if I go out and buy a box of silver eagles, a green box, 500 coins in there, here's the price of what those would be. A company, a promotional company

[00:40:59] might buy a box of 500 eagles and they might electroplate or paint a little gold lining on this silver eagle and say, well, there's only 500 made. Well, there's only 500 made of your electroplated silver eagle, but you bought, I mean, silver eagles, there was this many made,

[00:41:15] you just happened to buy 500 of them from the mint and now you've electroplated a little gold on there and then you charge, you know, maybe 10 times the value because it's a certain, you know, there all ought to be these certain grades. It just came off the press.

[00:41:29] And yet you're charging this. That's where the client gets stung because I had a client that spent 300 grand for promotional stuff. And if he gets 100 grand back, I'll be shocked. And I've known him for a year. I said, you know, I won't mention his name,

[00:41:45] but he comes in here, what are you thinking? I've known you forever. You're asking me about this one coin. Come to find out you've spent up 300,000 on these coins. Well, ah, now, you know, so we walk down the path, let's reach out to them and so on.

[00:42:01] Well, a lot of times reaching out, well, as Bill, Bill was my guy out there and well, Bill doesn't work here anymore. We don't know what he was doing. What do you mean? He worked for you. See, it just goes on and on

[00:42:12] and they can't get their money out of it. That's the sad thing. And ladies and gentlemen, that little gold thing that might be on there, they might tell you that it's worth this much, but it also might be a liability. People might say, you know what?

[00:42:23] I don't want that marred coin. I'd rather have a perfectly minted silver eagle that has never been touched or whatever. And so there's a lot of details to that. And there's a lot of ways to get ripped off is really the point that I'm finishing up on

[00:42:37] is that you've got to be very careful. You've got to talk to somebody who's been in the biz for a long time. Brian Rust and his family have been in it for generations, well over 50 years. He's got a freewatercoinco.com. He can give you advice.

[00:42:49] And if you invest with somebody like a Brian, see Brian has a no regret idea where he's just like, hey, I'll tell you how it really is. I'll lay it out for you. And then you can make your decisions with the friend in the business guidance.

[00:43:02] Okay, Brian just wants you to be happy and Brian also wants you to be able to come back to him. And the only way he can do that is by honesty being the issue. All right. Not only did the house vote hold HG Garland in contempt of court

[00:43:17] because they won't turn over the audio tapes. That battle's going on. A referral is gonna be made to the justice department, which is unlikely to prosecute. They'll just prosecute Bannon and Trump and never the other side. Meanwhile, Fed keeps rates unchanged. They signal one rate cut this year.

[00:43:34] We were told at the start of the year we might have three or four rate cuts. Now they're kind of backing off of that, Brian, and saying, no, we're not gonna change rates. Only one rate cut before the end of the year.

[00:43:43] They might even back away from that and not do it at all. And it's turning into sky high inflation as the Federal Reserve signals one cut this year. What do you think of that? Well, they're trying to band-aid this situation we're in. And over the last period,

[00:44:07] these periods of time that have evolved into this, I mean, you bail out all this and you hand out all this money, and there's plenty of money out there. It seems like that we're fixing or we're giving out, look, we're doing all this stuff.

[00:44:22] But they've created this monster. And then you start to see these banks in trouble because of the reality of they've got some bad loans out there. The banks are struggling and their bonds, I don't know. There's just all these things that are going on.

[00:44:42] And yet the Fed just keep, well, we need to raise because that's gonna help, but we don't wanna raise because it's gonna hurt. Well, yeah, we've got major inflation. And I think the bottom line is people are paying more money for food and home and medical and gas

[00:44:59] and everything else. And so, and their credit cards are maxed out. Now they're a little less spending, I guess, this last little quarter here because they're capped. They have no money. So yeah. All right, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Inflation, they say is sky high.

[00:45:20] It's interesting they say this. Elevated interest rates, sky high prices continue to weigh on America's finances, small business melting down. Now they say inflation has resulted in a quote, 20.1% non-seasonally adjusted price hike since Biden took office as of May. Now the problem that I have with this

[00:45:42] is I think they're lying. They want you to believe it's only 21% or 20.1% since Biden took office. I think things have increased way more than 20% overall. Brian, I mean, you look at certain things and what they do is they take out food, they take out gas,

[00:45:56] they take out anything that they consider volatile. But how does that relate? I still have to have gas to go anywhere, even to go to work. I still have to have food. You can't take out those essentials and pretend we're on an even level,

[00:46:07] honest, transparent playing field, Brian. Well, that's it. I mean, they kind of change the rules as they go along to help better their situation. It's like unemployment and so on. Well, unemployment, holy, more job. People went back to work. Well, yeah, maybe full-time jobs, they're laying off.

[00:46:25] They don't talk about that, but more part-time jobs are coming in. And so they kind of twist the numbers so it looks like that or, you know, some sort. When they say it's 21.9%, is it? I mean, you gotta look at everything and that's the issue.

[00:46:39] They just wanna pick and choose so it makes them look, you know, paint a little better picture for themselves when in reality, bottom line in hitting the American, you know, the middle, medium income workers, they're getting hit pretty hard. And I get that you don't, you know,

[00:46:57] maybe you don't have to have makeup in the index. I understand or, you know, lip gloss or something. You know, whatever. But to not have gas, in other words, energy or food, you know, it's like, hey, we're gonna take out food and shelter

[00:47:12] and we're gonna take out all the core and pretend that's the economy. They're playing games here, folks. And that's really the problem that I have with it because everybody needs food. Everybody needs fuel. Everybody needs clothes. Everybody needs shelter. And you take those fundamentals out of the discussion.

[00:47:26] We're just playing games with numbers. They also have different indexes and they have different ways. They change the way the indexes are reported and what's focused on and what matters. And small business is really suffering with this. They're experiencing a squeeze like nobody's business. So you know what?

[00:47:45] All the numbers can talk all day long, but at the end of the day, if my small business is in a squeeze and I can't handle, you know, or pay my employees or whatever else, we're gonna start to have other problems.

[00:47:55] And I also have a problem with this job idea. You know, what's a job? If I'm working part time, is that a job? And then they play this game and they say, well, non-farm labor. What is non-farm labor?

[00:48:08] It's we're gonna take the whole farming sector out of it because we know that the farming people don't get paid as much money so we don't want that to bring the number down. So non-farm labor takes that whole segment out. It's kind of like this,

[00:48:19] non-farm and restaurant labor minus that. Now we're gonna do the thing. You can't do that. You take huge swaths out of the equation when you play those games. And that's really what they're doing with this number, Brian. I'm convinced it's more like 35 to 50% overall.

[00:48:36] And you say, Sam, that's way too high. And my response is, I don't think so. Because remember, when the dollars go up, your taxes go up too on everything you buy. If you buy something for 10 bucks, you got a certain amount of taxes. If it goes to 20 bucks,

[00:48:48] I gotta pay a double taxes too, right? And so I don't think it's at all what they claim, Brian. No, you're exactly right, Sam. It's not all they claim and that's the issue. Realistically, if you go out and you start talking to the average family,

[00:49:04] it's not the issue. And they are feeling the impact. I read of something else too. They're starting to take some of these jobs. They say, okay, well, they're laying off a lot more full-time people. You've got part-time jobs surging.

[00:49:21] Well, a lot of the influx into those part-time jobs are illegals. And how's that gonna work? So are they paying taxes? Are they, I don't know, but they're saying a lot of these, there's people coming across the border taking these jobs. So I don't know.

[00:49:40] It's very interesting to see kind of where we're at and they're just band-aiding. And then if there's a natural disaster or you can't get this or supply chains have cut down, we can't get that in from overseas that we subsidize everything from.

[00:49:55] Now that little fine line that we were on, just, oh no, we weren't expecting that. And there's one more thing. So I don't know. It's reckless abandon out there and one little glitch could, just takes us a little farther down to where we're really hurting.

[00:50:12] So medicine, all those things. All right, well, I got an interesting twist on this too that I think directly relates. Listen to this headline. Biden's goal of building a half a million electric vehicle charging stations across the United States ran into a snag.

[00:50:30] Yeah, they wanted to get it done by 2030, but it's running into a snag. Why you ask? Well, you got diversity, equity and inclusion. That's the DEI deal, right? Well, I guess there's a bunch of requirements for that, Brian. I didn't know this, but just so you know,

[00:50:47] there's a bunch of requirements and they have to like hold events, you know, to help out society and do neighborhood kind of fun things and all this kind of stuff for the DEI to take place. And since they haven't done it, then it's all on hold.

[00:51:02] And so Biden's goal of building a half a million charging stations electrically ain't gonna work by 2030 because everybody's just tied up in all this red tape garbage. Okay, what will that do to the economy? Okay, is that gonna be included in all these indexes? The fact that,

[00:51:15] A, you can't build these charging stations. So y'all with an electric car that you were talked into and the government subsidized and everything else, now you can't charge your car because we can't build the stations because we've got to have neighborhood watch and neighborhood barbecues and stuff first.

[00:51:29] That's part of the, you know, red tape going on. It's like psychotic, Brian. But there we are, you know, conflicting Biden agendas just absolutely shutting everybody down. How's that gonna work for the electric or the electric car manufacturers and everybody else? Like I got a car,

[00:51:45] I was promised that charging stations would be happening and they're not cause of red tape. That stuff has just a negative toll on the economy and I don't see how you measure it. Well, they pushed for the electric, total electric

[00:52:00] and didn't look at kind of what would happen when they can't get some things done. I mean, plus they don't really look at the issues. They're getting pressure or their agenda, basically a clean air and we've got to stop driving these vehicles and da da da da da.

[00:52:17] But they don't really look at the logistics of putting it all together. Well, what's it gonna take how can we get this done or whatever? It just doesn't work. And so when they jump out there so quick and they've got all these things

[00:52:31] and even testing where the batteries and the metal to make batteries and all the other things that go along, it's a huge thing, but yet they want to force us to stop driving these other vehicles and that's kind of just what they do.

[00:52:46] We'll just stop it and then we'll think about it later. Anyway, our prayers are that we can lower inflation and we can get rid of the debt with these conflicting agendas. I don't see how, but we were delivered a little bit of good news

[00:52:58] that I want to end the hour on, Brian. Thanks to your phone calls, emails and petitions, the US House of Representatives passed a bill to ban. You heard me to ban the central bank digital currency, ladies and gentlemen. Now you and I must push it through the Senate,

[00:53:19] says Ron Paul. We've got to work on this, so hopefully we can block digital currency because that will spell disaster as government would have control to manipulate your very dollars digitally and everything else. So this is good news. Thanks to your phone calls, emails and petitions, we've banned.

[00:53:35] Now we've got to get the Senate to do it. We're not all the way there, but we're making progress and hopefully we can force this through. It's going to be a tough road to home, but we've got to work on it

[00:53:44] and at least there's good news so far, Brian. Amen, I agree. Don't want to go down that road, but they're pushing for it just like they push for the cars and all the other things. And Utah providing a great lead too. They're making gold and silver constitutional currency

[00:54:03] more and more every day. Other states are starting to take a page out of the Utah playbook. So we're getting ground on that front as well. So we banned digital currencies and we moved forward with constitutional currencies. I call that a pretty good starting point.

[00:54:15] Let's get to work, ladies and gentlemen. If we have our greater numbers, we can absolutely peacefully move towards constitutional. In other words, the proper role of government. Brian, thank you so much. Amen. Great job, Sam. Brian Russ doing a phenomenal job. As always, you've got a friend

[00:54:32] in the honest money business, freewatercoinco.com. Check it out. That's freewatercoinco.com where they encourage you to take possession of your medals. I am Sam Bushman, lovingliberty.net. Spread the word, share the love and God save the Republic of the United States of America.