Radio Show Hour 2 – 02/14/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard-hitting news that never refused to use, no doubt, continues now. This is February the 14th in the year of our Lord, 2025. Hour 2 at 2, promoting God, family, and country, protecting life, liberty, and property every day on your radio.

[00:00:42] Well, thanks for spending time with us. I dig it. Our last hour guest, incredible. Chaplain Joseph Bannon, author of the 19th Chamber, From Killer of Men to Healer of Men. I like to focus on the healer of men part the most, ladies and gentlemen. If you want to learn more about what he's got to say, check out that book, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, everywhere. Also, BannonInstitute.com to learn more about his training and all that he does and everything else.

[00:01:11] But I really want to focus for a second. Dr. Bradley is with me. Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com. I really want to focus on his statement at the end of the show. I said, if you could tell the world one thing of all your life, all the different things that you've done, all the trends, everything. What would you say? And he basically talked about God. And with God, all things are possible. And then I basically said, you know, how do you think prayer fits into the mix? And he says, prayer is the bullet in the gun.

[00:01:38] I mean, I don't know how many comparisons you get that relate to the power of prayer. But that's a powerful explanation of prayer, doctor. Well, prayer does really. It's the soul's most sincere desire, perhaps. It's unspoken many times. I think many times people, you know, like they say, there's no atheists in foxholes.

[00:02:03] Sometimes when things get tough, you know, the things that you're saying in your mind that are unspoken perhaps are the most powerful, you know, prayers that might be effort at any time, you know. So I think we need to sometimes turn our hearts and allow ourselves to transition to that vulnerability and the hope that comes with God.

[00:02:30] I mean, I really do believe that a lot of times in today's world we are so secular we forget. And getting back to that point is a hinge point we talked about in the first hour, a transition point that we can move forward on if we will. So I think humbling ourselves and going on our knees before God, you know, sometimes we've

[00:02:56] got to humble ourselves and fall to our knees and look to our redeemer for everything we are. And once we reach that point, hopefully we'll be able to start climbing back out of the hole that we might have got ourselves into. Anyway, I love it. Joe Bannon, prayer is the bullet in the gun. And I really like that. You know, some say prayer is the passport to spirituality. I say prayer is your lifeline to God.

[00:03:22] You know, some people say, well, prayer is the first real one-on-one social media. You know, any way you want to look at it, I just want to focus on that value that prayer brings to the table, ladies and gentlemen. All right, let's go to Dr. Bradley's webinar. You had the webinar last night? I did indeed. We had a very interesting exchange. In fact, it was a target-rich environment. I think I got seven questions is all. As it always is, right? Oh, yeah.

[00:03:51] I mean, the thing is, though, that in the last few weeks since the 20th of January, there's been no lack of things to talk about. And you kind of got to put it on fast forward to be able to even touch on any of the subjects. So, yeah, we had some very interesting discussion, and there's yet many things to be done, I'm sure. But I don't know. What do you want to talk about?

[00:04:19] Well, there's a lot of overlapping questions that you get. There's a lot of questions that, hey, three or four questions asked slightly different could be boiled into a single question, et cetera. Not counting RFKJR, because that's where we're going next. Okay. What was covered the most, or what issues weren't covered that you might want to focus on? Oh, let's see. I'll go back at some of the list of stuff we got here.

[00:04:43] You know, one of the big ones, I think, was the Trump-Putin call and the Ukraine war. You know, it's astounding to me, absolutely astounding. Biden may never have had a phone call with Putin his entire four years. And I think his handlers probably wisely handled that, because Putin would have eaten his lunch.

[00:05:07] But certainly in the three years since the Ukraine war has started, there has been no Biden-Putin conversation. Well, that would require that Biden can have a conversation, sir. That's right. Some kind of cogent, put the words together and haven't made any sense thing. But finally, and I would have thought there would have been some upfront stuff even earlier than it did happen. This week, they talked to each other.

[00:05:36] And I believe there's a lot of people that are critical about what was said there, for example. I'm not. Well, here's the deal. There's like, oh, you know, this NATO membership is off the table. Oh, you can't give that away in your negotiation. And OK, Russia giving back all the territories off the table. Well, wait, wait, you can't do that. You're giving away your negotiation points. But the fact of the matter is, they may never come to a negotiation unless Putin actually

[00:06:05] realizes that the whole crux of what brought this invasion about three years ago was the NATO alliance coming on his doorstep. And he's just it's just not going to happen. So, I mean, and we got Mike. What's his name? Mark Fogle, I think, was the American that got released. And that's right. Yes, sir. That we turned over a crypto criminal. I don't know what exactly that is.

[00:06:31] Somebody that was into crypto and somehow picked up a hundred million dollars or something like that in his dealings fraudulently. But, you know, we gave away a nonviolent criminal that basically sounds like, OK, I'm going to you look at all of the people that are in office right now that are making a hundred thousand effect. Elon Musk talked about this a little bit. Hundred thousand, one hundred fifty thousand, two hundred thousand dollars a year there.

[00:06:58] And they end up with multimillion dollar portfolios from their time in office. That's why you got to prop them up, prop them up by the jukebox. You know, you got this whacked out Kentucky guy, Mitch McConnell, voting against, you know, RFK, J.R., the only one to vote against him as a Republican, as a Republican. Yeah. And you go, wow, this clown can't. I mean, you know, Nancy Pelosi and and this guy falling down and they don't stay there because they're getting two in a grand a year.

[00:07:27] Doctor, two in a grand a year in Washington, D.C. is like making 70 grand where I live kind of thing. Right. Exactly. And so, I mean, this kind of thing that we're talking about, there's there's just kind of popping the cap off of this stuff. And and sooner or later, somebody's going to have to do some some answering, you know, got some splaining to do, as they say. Someone's going to have to back off of these critical points that we're just not going to agree on. Right.

[00:07:56] But but the fact is that we may have a footing to put an end to the Ukraine war. I pray so. People are just ticked off saying, oh, you can't say NATO. In fact, some of our NATO allies, some of the belligerent ones that think, well, I got a big brother in the background. That's the United States, by the way, that's going to carry the big stick. They want to be hard nosed and everything. It's like, no, we're going to shut NATO down entirely. That's my comment. There you go, baby.

[00:08:24] So anyway, that was a that was something that we spent a lot of time on, because honestly, that's the that's the elephant in the room. Well, it is. And it brings up my question that I've been asking ever since Trump took office. You know, are they going to force Trump into being a war president in some way? I mean, I know that's their goal. Will Trump be wise enough to not step in it is the question, right? No, I don't believe he will be wise enough to step in it. And by the way, that was another point. I mean, yeah, that was another point.

[00:08:54] You know, Trump talked with King Abdullah II of Jordan, and they talked about Trump's plan to take over the Gaza Strip and have Jordan and Egypt absorb the displaced Palestinians. And euphemistically and kindly, Abdullah said, we'd prefer they stay in Gaza. Well, if you know any of the history, which I'd be shocked if Trump knows any of it, we our presidents do not have a context in which they can hang their stuff.

[00:09:23] But the entire existence of Jordan, I mean, they came into existence in 1921. But ever since the first Israeli war, they call it the 1948 war, they have had displaced persons after displaced persons after displaced persons that have come to Jordan. They have disrupted their entire existence, whether they've been Palestinians or Syrians or whomever.

[00:09:49] They bring a malcontent, a militaristic, an overthrow-the-government kind of mentality. And I think that King Abdullah should have said it a lot stronger than heck no. But the fact of the matter is, I don't think Trump has any idea how much of a burden taking all of these refugees in is for Jordan, who's not a rich country, really.

[00:10:14] And the fact of the matter is that it's like, so Egypt, Egypt's a bigger country, can absorb more. But here's the deal. Jordan could cease to exist. See, the Hashemite tribe has been ruling them since 1921. And by the way, Abdullah, I think, is... And I appreciate that history and that detail, Dr. Bradley, but my response from the United States point of view, from a sovereign nation point of view, is simply this.

[00:10:44] What does that have to do with me? Meaning my country. What does that have to do with the sovereignty of the United States and the protection thereof? In other words, if I'm president, if I'm Joe Blow's citizen, if I'm military extraordinaire, whoever I am, what does that have to do with us? Well, here's the deal. We have no right, responsibility, anything, to foist anything on anybody. And for us to take that on violates the constitutional oath of office that Trump and everybody else took.

[00:11:13] And it violates the protocols that have been in international law since 1648 in the Westphalian Treaty. Because we never said we're supposed to protect Jordan from enemies foreign and domestic. No, but we're not supposed to. We're not supposed to do that kind of stuff. It's nation building. It's meddling in foreign affairs. It's everything contrary to what we stand for as a country. But we can't force Jordan or Egypt to take on things within their sovereign country either. It's a violation.

[00:11:43] It's a globalist perspective. It's what the people in the Council on Foreign Relations, the United Nations, and everything else would like to see happen. And Joe has walked out of the scene and left Trump as the monarch, I guess. And the monarch is saying, okay, you guys over there, you're going to have to do this and this and this. And we have no right to do that. And we have no constitutional authority to do what Trump's wanting to do. So I know Trump promised that he would end the war. And I know that he thinks he wants peace and everything else.

[00:12:12] But in my opinion, that very willingness to be involved at that negotiating table tells me the ship's already sunk. Well, people think that we've got a monarch and we don't. We just don't have a monarch. Don't you agree that being at that table means the ship's already sunk? There's no way out if you get yourself in the middle of that. That's true because I'll tell you how it'll turn out.

[00:12:34] We will end up promising billions of dollars, billions of dollars to whomever comes to agreement with this thing. And now we're stealing from people for that billions of dollars or we're creating out of thin air, putting the next generations at risk. I mean, it's a disaster. That's what we did with the Camp David Accords when Assad and Menachem Begin came to a handshake. And Jimmy Carter promised billions of dollars for Egypt and Israel forever. We're still paying that. Do the math.

[00:13:04] Hundreds of billions of dollars have been handed over. We are not to be there. And I guarantee that's where this is going. And the Gaza Strip transitioned to the Riviera of the Middle East. Trump, where does this come from? How could this possibly be considered by anybody? And he's acting like he's got full authority to do it. This kind of stuff, we get way off the rails and we're off in the weeds instantly.

[00:13:32] And I submit to you, once you start that, there's no real way out. Because once you make decisions, you become trapped by those decisions. Whether it be money and we're over a barrel to pay, pay, pay, pay, pay. Whether it's we pick sides and we insert ourself in one way that comes back to bite us. It's called blowback in another way. I mean, the list just goes on and on and on. And the only way, really, in my opinion, is to stay out of these foreign entanglements. That's the founders understood this.

[00:13:59] Ron Paul today has been speaking out about this boldly, and I do too. The only way is to simply stay out of those foreign entanglements and say, you know, y'all are crazy. Maybe you ought to turn to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And maybe you ought to become a light on a hill like us. And by the way, there's a free copy of the Constitution if you're interested. It's online, and you can download it for free. And, hey, we encourage you to kind of take the road we have, which is the free enterprise system, not meddling in the affairs of others, staying on our sovereign nation,

[00:14:25] protecting our nation and our people from enemies, foreign and domestic. And, hey, our plan is pretty simple. Well, our greatest export should be our principles that other countries can emulate. If they chose to do so, and it's their agency to do so, they can make their own choice. But for us to convert by the sword or any other process that you might have heard that used in other religions is absolutely incorrect and improper.

[00:14:53] You know, you talk about let's just go back to the Founding Fathers formula. You know, to preserve the nation, we've got to use that original formula. All right. There you have it. A little kind of an idea of some of the things they discuss on the incredible weekly webinars. Dr. Scott Bradley, Thursdays, 7 p.m. If you go to freedomsrisingsun.com, you can sign up and be part of that webinar. You can submit your own questions. You can listen and learn. It is an opportunity of a lifetime every week.

[00:15:21] Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com. By the way, people can listen to the – you can go to our BitChute channel, which is Freedom's Call. Go to bitshoot.com. Type in Freedom's Call. You'll come up with the latest videos, which are being posted as we speak at this moment. They're being edited and posted from last night. And you can go back. There's over 700 videos right now on there that you can look back historically and see what's done. They're there.

[00:15:50] And that's even after the thugs took down thousands of videos, the first go-around shutdown clown show. He's already got 700 videos as he rebuilds, right? Correct. We did never repost any of the previous ones. We maybe ought to think about that. But, man, there's a lot of energy that goes into that. It's not only energy. It's money and time, which I have neither of. There you go. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, it's great stuff. We'll keep an eye on that ball as it unfolds. Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency. It's not really a department at all, but there you have it.

[00:16:20] The debate is the clowns say Trump doesn't have any right to delegate these responsibilities. So they're suing Trump over this, saying Trump delegated too much to Elon Musk and Doge. And Trump's statement is, look, you know, I have to. I have no choice. I'm supposed to spend this money and be responsible for it. Then I've got to make sure that it's being spent appropriately. I support that view. But what I really submit to you that's missing from this is Congress, doctor.

[00:16:47] Well, Congress really has, well, they never had a backbone in recent history. And they do have that financial responsibility. But the president needs to make sure that the, you know, he's the executor, if you will, of the laws that they write. And he's got to see that they're going out and being executed properly. And so this natural capability of being able to audit, I mean, let's audit the Fed while we're at it. Let's audit the IRS and all these kind of things. Well, by the way, that's the latest thing today.

[00:17:18] Doge audits the IRS. That's the headline. Well, the thing is, bring it on, baby. You know, we'd like to know what they're doing. And lately, the last few years, they have been militarized, if you will. You know, they're becoming more and more militarized. And this is a... So now you want to be for gun control, do you? Here's the deal. I want gun control.

[00:17:44] I want the American people to be able to hit what they aim at, control that gun, be very careful, hit what you aim at. And then I want the government agencies like the IRS to be disarmed, sir. Well, yeah, absolutely. Here's the deal. You know, they were against standing armies that could be used against the people to enslave them. And so if you're putting armed forces out there that are going to be exercised against the American population as though they were a military force,

[00:18:10] which they're, you know, very much turning into that, that we're going completely countered away. It's green on green. It's Americans against Americans at this point. And that's the problem is that this continues to roll that way with everything that's happening, this federalization of our police force, this walking away from the local control of our police agencies.

[00:18:36] It's becoming, and you always hate to say, because everybody that brings up Nazis first loses. The fact of the matter is that's where Nazi Germany went. Not on my program. You want to know why? Why? Because you've got to understand the context in which it's being brought up, to be honest and fair and accountable. Absolutely. That's why. Okay. So, you know, we can bring this topic up, and that doesn't mean we're Nazis, and it doesn't mean we agree with what they did, and we don't agree with socialism, and we don't agree with a lot of those things.

[00:19:07] Nevertheless, you know, we can take a page out of that historical reality and make decisions and refer to it in meaningful, productive ways. And to suggest we can't is, again, a dishonest manipulation of free speech. And that's what they do often. They basically tie it. You bring it up, and, oh, man, now you're the bad guy. You're the Nazi. You're just speaking in code is what you're doing. You're, okay, you're, oh, what do they call that when you're, when you, oh, what's it called? Shoot, there's a word for this. When you basically refer to a dog whistle.

[00:19:36] Hey, you just threw out the dog whistle. Okay, they like to tie that together. But it's absolutely grounded in propaganda, to say the least. Well, putting things in a historical context. We can light our way with the light from the past. Amen. And if, in fact, we find things historically that are absolutely destructive of liberty, we need to say, whoa, wait, wait, wait. There's a parallelism here. We've got to think about this. And if we don't, we're going to lose it again.

[00:20:05] It's just the way it comes. Yeah, because history repeats itself. Absolutely. Absolutely. It does. You know, and, you know, you can look at Shakespeare. You can look at Patrick Henry. I mean, the wise men throughout history have always referred back to referring back to be able to understand. Anyway, I appreciate Doge auditing the IRS. I think they need to audit and end the IRS. And I'm going to say something for Trump.

[00:20:33] You know, all these clowns are telling us that, oh, man, tariffs are going to be horrible. Prices are going to go up. It's going to be awful. Inflation's at the helm. It's disaster. And my response is, Donald, they're right unless you shut down the IRS and decrease taxes on the American. Just imagine if Donald Trump came out and said, listen, the IRS has been suspended. Nobody has to file taxes this year. April 15th is gone. Freedom Day is here today. You know, we could start there, right? And you could say, well, he can't do that.

[00:20:59] And my response is, if there's a group that's judged, jury, and executioner that has become weaponized against the American people, is it reasonable for the president to interpose, Sheriff? I mean, doctor? It is. It's time for some interposition. By the way, there are court injunctions being exercised.

[00:21:25] I think in the last two weeks they've probably had about 15 injunctions exercised against Trump. And Trump has said, all right, we're going to honor those things. We will appeal them until we have victory. And we will have victory. And so he's not running roughshod over the system. They're doing that very responsibly. Yeah. And I think that they will be appealed. I think there will be reasonable heads that prevail in these things. But it's sure slow rolling it.

[00:21:54] And there's a lot of people that are doing it not based upon principle but upon agendas. And so Donald Trump said, should I audit the IRS into oblivion? And Doge said yes. And they're going after it. Now, the reason this is interesting is there's all these lawsuits going on. And Trump says that he will respect them. But this is an interesting headline.

[00:22:13] Headline says, judge faces impeachment for blocking Doge Treasury access because of judicial overreach, writes the blaze. I've been talking about this. Phyllis Lafley has talked about this for 30 years, doctor, and more. And we need to impeach these judges. And now someone's actually finally, finally talking about it on the national stage. This is encouraging, doctor. Well, it truly is.

[00:22:41] But lest we do our victory dance in the end zone right too early, I think total, total, total, total in the entire history of the United States, there's been like something like 15 judges that were impeached. Now, impeachment is not removal. Only eight of those judges were removed. Okay. Yeah, we've got to impeach and remove. And prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, ladies and gentlemen. Absolutely.

[00:23:05] But if Americans would start to realize impeachment has a place in the United States government, it is part of the constitutional process. There are, I think, a couple of Congress critters that are, I use the term too deridedly anyway, at this point, that have, are in the process of filing impeachment paperwork for some judges. Because then, okay, here the deal is.

[00:23:32] If 51% of the members of Congress, it only takes a majority, agree that impeachment charges or an indictment needs to be brought forth, then it goes to the Senate. So we've got to, and this could happen in a Republican-controlled House because they've got a majority. And then it goes to the Senate, and two-thirds of the senators have to agree. So it's a real long high bar. But the fact that somebody's even talking about it is encouraging. Amen to that.

[00:24:02] And that is the quintessential point. There's a whole lot more where that came from, ladies and gentlemen. There's a lot to cover in the news, I'm telling you right now. RFKJR got confirmed. We want to talk about that and what that means. I also know that Kash Patel, who I have publicly endorsed, I think he's up for confirmation today. Our prayers are that's successful, ladies and gentlemen. All I can tell you is this. Trump officially calls for the end of the income tax.

[00:24:33] Maybe the first POTUS in history to do so. That's great news, too. Is it enough? No. Is it a start? Yes. Do you have a role to play to get it done? Absolutely. Hang tight. Everybody round the table live in seconds. You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from townhall.com.

[00:25:03] I'm Rich Tomlinson. Vice President Vance rebukes European leaders for squelching freedom of speech and conscience. The vice president made his remarks during a NATO security conference Friday in Munich, a day after visiting a notorious Nazi-era concentration camp. There is no security if you are afraid of the voices, the opinions, and the conscience that guide your very own people.

[00:25:28] Mr. Vance reasserted the U.S. demand that NATO members step up defense spending to balance American levels of financing the security alliance. Correspondent George Williams says Vance will be meeting with Ukrainian President Zelensky, also attending the summit. Federal workforce layoffs have begun as the administration strives to cut the size and the cost of government. Probationary employees yet to be covered by civil service protections are being pink slipped. President Trump planning tariffs to match those charged by other countries on U.S. imports.

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[00:30:12] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen. Senate approves RFKJR. Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsizingsun.com. What will that look like going forward, sir?

[00:30:39] You know, I've been very hopeful since Kennedy was named as the potential HHS secretary and very much looking forward to what I predicted would be an extremely difficult confirmation process and it proved to be so, and if I sound like I'm kind of chewing my tongue, I am,

[00:31:06] because I hope Kennedy didn't give away too much virtue to get the confirmation. I, you know, this, the idea of exposing truth in regards to the relationships in the FDA, the CDC, the NIH, about the industry capture that's gone on there.

[00:31:31] I mean, it is absolutely, I mean, this is a case where the law has been twisted to be in favor of those that were supposed to be watched over. The telltale sign that we'll know is if he teams up with Rand Paul, with Tulsi Gabbard, with others, Kash Patel, if he gets nominated, our prayers are on that, and he actually goes after Anthony Fauci. And that would tell me that we're serious. Until then, I won't believe it.

[00:32:00] Well, I think Fauci's been pardoned by Biden. You don't care. You can force him on the stand and you can force him to admit the things that aren't pardonable that are after the fact. You can force him to bring all kinds of other people into account, et cetera. I mean, there's a ton of things you can still do. That pardon is bad news. But you could also document this idea, though, that I don't think that Joe could give a pardon. I don't think Joe's capable of granting a pardon. He doesn't even know what he's pardoning.

[00:32:27] I think you could demonstrate that and drag all that out and prove it. But I think the real truth of the matter is he thought he was signing Christmas cards or something when he was doing these pardons because his confidence level had gone to that point. So the question is, is the pardon valid if you're not competent to make the pardon? Yeah, that needs to be pursued.

[00:32:48] But I think the idea of getting Fauci and bringing him on the stand and the interrogation, the ultimate perjury that could be brought. He hasn't been pardoned a perjury for future perjuries. They pardoned all sins, past and known and unknown and all that kind of stuff. And Fauci really does need to be held responsible. I mean, it's kind of like, again, let's go back to the history, the Nuremberg trials, Nuremberg II.

[00:33:17] We need to understand America needs to remember what we went through in 2020, 2021, the abominable things that happened. And they really started under Trump's administration. I mean, the warps. They didn't. Shame on Donald for that. Absolutely. But the American public, you know, it just astonishes me how few people even remember what happened.

[00:33:43] I talk to people that I know, you know, that are in our community. And it's like, you have completely done an expunged their memory on these kinds of things. And never again, we can't let this happen again. And I just think that it needs to be pursued. Again, let's go back to the Robert F. Kennedy thing. So hopeful.

[00:34:08] I have been so hopeful that something good would come out of his being HHS human secretary, health and human services secretary. But they wanted him to sign in blood the fact that he would not expose the dangers of the vaccines, for example. We need to just absolutely repeal the 1986. Amen. Well, here's his time to take off the gloves.

[00:34:37] We need to repeal 1986, this idea that we want to give an injury compensation fund and get vaccine companies off the hook for what they develop. No industries in the world hardly have that kind of special privilege. And it needs to stop. And RFK is the one to get it done. The question is, will he, do you think? What do you say? Will he? I think he'll try, but I think he'll be blocked down in the courts and locked down by everything under the sun. I mean, they're making this very difficult for anything good to happen, right? Well, you're absolutely right.

[00:35:04] And you think Trump is having trouble right now with injunctions and slow rolling in the courts and everything else like that. I think if Bobby Kennedy really went, took the gloves off and went after this with absolute like a bulldog on a bone, I mean, the hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars that have been poured into the coffers of our Congress critters over the years by the pharma companies. I think that that would, and it's not just the pharma companies.

[00:35:34] I mean, think about the stuff that's poisoning our soil, poisoning our air, poisoning, you know, our food. I mean, it's absolutely, it's not just vaccines. When you stop and think about, much of America's production cannot be sold in Europe. I mean, whether it's our agricultural products. Yeah, that's because they know better. Well, they have banned the products.

[00:36:01] And there's a generally regarded as safe. That's grass, I think, is the terminology they use. American producers of food can put stuff in it using products that they have denominated as generally regarded as safe. And the Europeans have banned those. They say, no, are you kidding? We're not going to poison our people.

[00:36:26] And so whether it's stuff you're putting in your soil to do your production for your agriculture or actually putting it in the food products that are being sold to breakfast cereals, for example, for your kids or grandkids, Europeans won't even allow those products to be sold. I get it. They say, no. Hopefully RFK comes to his senses. Hopefully he won't just, you know, peck around the edges. Hopefully he'll take off the gloves and get serious.

[00:36:51] And my response is, you know what, you know, in the swamp, if you don't get after it and get serious, that's one thing I got to give Trump credit for a little bit. I mean, he has gone after these people in some very meaningful, productive ways. And you can say, well, he's ruling by executive order. And I say, that's a problem. I'll be the first to point that out. But, hey, when Congress is simply sidelined and doing nothing and the courts are attacking President Trump's every single move, at some point you got to do something. So we're praying for RFKJR. We hope Tulsa Gabbard tolls the line in an appropriate way.

[00:37:19] We hope Cash Patel gets nominated and he can take care of business. But there's another interesting triad of discussion that I want Dr. Bradley to chime in on. Elon Musk had a couple of posts back and forth with two people, Charlie Kirk and Mike Lee, Senator Mike Lee. And basically the point is we need Ron Paul to be the great next chairman of the Federal Reserve. Do you want to respond? Oh, holy cow. Can you imagine?

[00:37:49] Wouldn't that be? You know, there's been people that have gone into that assignment and they say, oh, well, they became polluted while in there. But I think Ron Paul, unless he hasn't somehow, you know, as he's aged, had problems come in or anything, I don't want to predict that or say it sounds like it's there. But, man, if Ron Paul were the head of the Fed, you wonder how long it would be before somebody spilled the beans on the Fed. And I think it would be Ron Paul doing that.

[00:38:19] It would be a Ron Paul for Fed chair, ladies and gentlemen. Let's get her done. Anyway, I'm not saying that everything is perfect. I get the problems with executive orders. I get a lot of the problems. And I get that, you know, we want to act like everything is just going to be incredible. You know, a lot of the Republicans want to go to sleep. They think by putting Trump in place, it's going to make a difference. And I think it is. But, you know, you can't take your hands off and you can't stop. We've got to press harder than ever. So imagine RFK taking off the gloves.

[00:38:50] Imagine Kash Patel taking off the gloves. Imagine Trump to pardon Edward Snowden. There's a statement that Trump is going to pardon Snowden. I think he should. What do you say, doctor? Well, I think Snowden is the national hero. I mean, really, he had to decide it was his oath to keep secrets more important than his oath to the Constitution. He chose the Constitution. Amen.

[00:39:18] And I think that absolutely that's the right path. There was a superior law, if you will, that took preeminence. But the Trump administration, some of the folks in his administration before wanted to have him assassinated. So there's a real recalibration that's happening if Trump really will pardon him and, you know, welcome the science. I say the sooner the better.

[00:39:47] I think so, too. So I've been talking to former Congressman Steve Stockman, and he thinks we ought to have Good Friday every Friday and just, you know, start working on this political prisoner problem in America. We don't want to be the most prisoned nation in the country or in the world, and we are. And so why don't we just have, you know, prisoner pardon Good Fridays and just, you know, create a list of people that will be pardoned every Friday.

[00:40:10] We could create a nonprofit organization, a private sector citizens group that would vet the pardons first and present them to the president and get them done. And, you know, we could start there. Now, Pam Bondi, I've not really been a fan of hers because she's been the take the guns first due process second lady. Shame on her for that. However, Pam did get confirmed. So that's the deal. Pam Bondi sues New York over sanctuary laws, says we're coming after you. Doctor, go ahead and skip the break.

[00:40:39] Here's the deal. There are impediments to being able to remove criminals. Some cities have taken seriously their position that they're a sanctuary city. And New York has got this thing that says that, you know, we're going to protect. See, they've put out records. Not records. It's a license. It's a driver license thing where illegals can get driver licenses.

[00:41:07] And they're saying, no, you know, the general government cannot have access to those licenses that we've offered for these people that are here illegally in violation of federal law. And so Bondi and company are saying we're going to sue you because your law is protecting their you're harboring federal criminals. And so New York is thumbing their nose at that right now.

[00:41:34] And some of these other states and local municipalities are similarly looking to this. But I think that ultimately and finally they're going to see that that it's not going to hold water. I think there's going to be a fight over it. It'll go to court. And ultimately the courts will have to say, oh, you guys are off base. You know, yeah. The New York folks are off base. Pam Bondi is right on that, et cetera.

[00:41:58] Now, headline says President Biden implicated in crimes of treason in stunning emails leaked. PC Daily Journal dot com with the piece. America First Legal is the organization that took this on, doctor. And they've been critical of the Biden administration, as you know. But they quickly pointed to these now forced to be released emails.

[00:42:24] The prosecution against Donald Trump was a sham about the. Oh, what do you call it? The classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. And it turns out that it was all backed by focused on promoted by Joe Biden. So you've got literally the president of the United States. He's using his, quote, wherewithal to go after the former president over this issue. And now he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

[00:42:52] I think that the criminal activity is at. I don't know that it could even be to higher levels with Joe. He's destroyed everything. But I don't know that there'll be any accountability. I don't think anybody's ready to go after Joe like they need to be. No, I think that the Robert Herr idea that he's too incompetent to stand trial. But I think there's other things that he'll stand on, too. Probably it doesn't meet treason definition as of Article 3.

[00:43:22] And so there's not going to be able to be treason charges brought. But even the criminal charges, you know, the Supreme Court ruled recently that the president has a lot of latitude for actions within the fulfillment of his office of the president. And so they're going to fall back on that, too. I don't see anything coming out of this. I think it's great that it's coming out.

[00:43:47] I think it adds further evidence of the criminality of the previous administration. And it's, you know, fool me once kind of thing. Don't fool me again. Amen. That kind of activity. But I think it's going to be hard to pursue it for treason and or for any kind of criminal stuff that he did because of the Supreme Court ruling. Yeah, they'll just say Joe's incompetent. He can't handle it and everything else. You know, where do you go with that?

[00:44:12] And then and then if they go there, though, then we can say, OK, well, then these pardons don't count if you're incompetent to, you know, then you can't do the pardons. So it's the only way we're going to have any justice on that is if we have absolute rock solid people who relentlessly pursue putting people on the stand, forcing them to perjure themselves and everything else. The next question is Pam Bondi is there now. Will she go after and release the Jeffrey Epstein list?

[00:44:42] Do we get to the bottom of that, you think, doctor? I would love it if we did. I mean, but the problem is, is that so many people, including your current president, are on that list. I mean, there's there's people that have been down that path and it's it's a really discouraging kind of thing. So that's going to get in the way of that. I mean, I think that, you know, and let's go to another thing that they there's been signed orders to release the JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King.

[00:45:09] How about that in a quick second? But before that, there's a shock claim. They say Hunter Biden was running the White House. Is it possible? Writes the blaze. I don't think so. I don't think Hunter Biden can run his own car. I mean, usually he's too impaired to do that. It would seem to me I I would be shocked if if you could, you know, pull the strings on that. I think it's more likely that Jill Biden was heavily involved in running the White House. Well, there you go.

[00:45:39] So, you know that. I mean, I appreciate that. But that. So now you bring up this question about some of these other things. So Republican Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida announced on Tuesday that now she's been appointed to be the chair of a new task force aimed at classifying federal secrets. This will be a, quote, relentless pursuit of truth, she says, and transparency. And we will not stop until the American people have the answers they deserve.

[00:46:08] It goes on and says the task force will focus on declassifying records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, RFK, Dr. Martin Luther King. Those also look into the Jeffrey Epstein's client list. They say they'll also work on UFOs documents relating to September the 11th. Issues related to COVID and more. Think it's real, doctor?

[00:46:39] Wow. You know, I guess it remains to be seen. I hope that those things will be declassified and fully exposed. I hope so. But my prediction is a lot of smoke and mirrors and a lot of talk at this point. Until I see real pay dirt, that's what I'm sticking with. I'm concerned that you're more right than wrong. And I guess we can hope for the best.

[00:47:00] But, man, it just, for full disclosure to start happening, that sounds like kind of a pipe dream and, you know, wishes were horses, beggars would ride kind of thing. But, man, I hope it is. I just hope it is. Amen to that. Trump announced that he would cut the corporate tax rate from 21% to 15% on companies that make products in America.

[00:47:29] I think he needs to do that across the board, not just companies that make things in America. And I will tell you this. It's almost impossible to make things in America, doctor. It is. I mean, you go down to some of the big box stores and, you know, you go in there and try and find something that's made in America. I mean, you know, you go buy shoes. I mean, let's say we're just... Yeah, the problem is the supply chain for raw materials that people need is just not even there in the United States. No. And steel?

[00:47:55] I mean, we can't even talk about these strategic kinds of products that are required for us to actually, you know, operate if we got attacked. I mean, we have offshored almost everything. And it's really a tragic travesty. And I think what's happened... Well, I'll just give an example. And I know that I oftentimes take too much time in explaining things. But I interviewed Chuck Buck, who was the Buck Knife guy.

[00:48:24] And the Buck Knife people were started, I think, like 1903 in California. To make a long story short, California's regulations drove them out of California. Just their... You know, you think about running their forges, the electrical bills, the surcharges on electricity, absolutely over the top. And so they offshored to China. They lost quality control.

[00:48:52] And, you know, who wants to buy a Chinese knife? It's going to fill you in the most, you know, catastrophic way in the most needed time. And he moved to the northern panhandle of Idaho. And the regulatory relief that he got by just moving to another state was unbelievable. Well, the whole United States has done that with almost every product we've got. And now you talk about your supply lines, your supply chain.

[00:49:21] You talk about your regulatory responsibilities with meeting all the government things, the taxes. We've basically driven industry out of America. And somebody's got to recognize that you can't do that and remain, you know, a nation that has high-priced... Not high-priced... High-paid workers that can pay the high price that you have to in order to get good products, you know? So, yeah.

[00:49:50] We've been our own worst enemy. And most favored nation status, 1986 in China. All that kind of stuff that Reagan signed off on. I happen to know quite a bit about it because I consult from an IT perspective to a lot of these companies. And I provide IT guidance. And, you know, how do you deal with warehouses in different locations? And how do you deal with the tariffs? And how do you bring in the proper things? So I have a firsthand front row seat to this. And a lot of this is very, very difficult.

[00:50:15] I was even tasked with an effort to say, let's bring our manufacturing back to the United States. And after I came back, I had my research report. And I just told the company, you can't do it. You're not big enough. The supply chain is not there for your raw materials. You can't get it done. Well, and there's also things that we don't even talk about even. You know, you talk about being taxed in various taxing entities when you sell into that entity. So let's say you have a product that you're selling from a warehouse.

[00:50:45] Say it's in Utah and you're selling it in Colorado. You have to pay your local taxes in Colorado to get a lot of those things done. And so every single stinking way we are sinking ourselves, and we're our own worst enemy. And, you know, it's the old Pogo thing, you know, that political cartoon. We have met the enemy and he is us. And truly, we are cutting our own throat in every way possible, in every opportunity.

[00:51:13] And Americans just need to wake up and say, you know what? Okay, here's a big part of the problem. A big part of the problem that every legislature that meets, and our state is currently meeting, and a lot of others are at the first of the year here, they look for another revenue stream. And they say, hey, we're not taxing this yet. Yeah, that's a good idea. We can tax this too. Every single time they turn around, they're looking for another revenue stream.

[00:51:39] We need to start shrinking government requirements to the point that we can operate without having another revenue stream that they can pick our pockets in. And we're not doing it. We're just saying, hey, this is an area we're not taxing. Oh, holy cow, how do we overlook that? Let's create a new law and do it that way. And so we just, our grandchildren will wake up enslaved in their nation because we just

[00:52:06] were too stupid to recognize what we should do along the way. Yeah, and I want to be the first to say, I don't want you to think that I'm being negative. I really believe, I really believe honestly that, you know what, we can make a change on this. Meaning we really can solve this. But it can't be small companies that do business like 10, 20, 30 million dollars. They're just not big enough on their own.

[00:52:35] We're going to have to put a sustained effort in the United States to really get that done for it to stick. And what I mean by that is, you know, we would have to basically appropriately allow the supply chains to be developed. It would take years to bring all this manufacturing back to the United States because of all the infrastructure that you've got to build and all the, you know, rerouting of, you know, raw materials. And what I mean is it's a whole process.

[00:53:02] It took us 50 years to take down an incredible manufacturing and the greatness of the United States from an economic perspective. And it's going to take a while to put it back, doctor. Let's be clear and realistic about this. And so we've got to start now. I mean, if you start five years from now, you're five years behind. I mean, think about how long it takes to build a real steel plant, a real live operational steel plant.

[00:53:25] In your neighborhood, you used to have one of the most productive, efficient, highly, I mean, high volume steel plants in the world. And we sold it lock, stock and barrel to China. And they came and took it apart and took it to China. I mean, it takes years to build that kind of thing. And China was willing to buy one here so they didn't have to come up with all of the technology to put it in place. So, I mean, we got to start now.

[00:53:53] Putting it off another year is too late. Amen, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm just telling you, I pray that we're successful. And I don't mean to be negative. But I do want to be candid and honest. Joel Skousen just released his World Affairs Brief, and he has a headline on the releasing of the JFK files. This is an interesting, in my opinion.

[00:54:18] Trump is being set up for failure relating to the release of the JFK assassination files. I sadly believe he's correct. Anyway, just thought I'd bring that out for the final thought. Dr. Bradley, we sure appreciate you and all that you do. freedomsrisingsun.com. Check out his website. Get signed up for his webinars, his incredible collegiate series to preserve the nation and more. Thank you, doctor. Well, glad to be here and hope everybody has a great weekend. God save the republic. Happy Valentine's Day.

[00:54:48] Happy Valentine's Day.