Radio Show Hour 2 – 05/27/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman live on your radio.

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[00:01:08] Without further ado, guest two coming on. Man, just star-studded broadcast today. First hour, the good Sheriff Richard Mack, cspoa.org. Second hour, our dear friend Steve Stockman. Former congressman, two times, I might add. Welcome back to the broadcast, sir. Uh-oh. Am I there, Liz? I'm there. Oh, hi. Welcome, Steve. Thank you for having me on.

[00:01:36] I guess it was the NSA interview. That's what they usually do. They kind of disrupt things on purpose. But we've got a big old celebration. Scott Jenkins, former, or I guess I should say former sheriff, because he lost the election over it. Interesting election tampering, by the way, Steve. I want to get into that a little bit. But a big celebration, though. General Flynn, Roger Stone, Richard Mack. Of course, the president of the United States, Donald J.

[00:02:04] Trump, and God Almighty was able to protect Sheriff Scott Jenkins from the Biden DOJ. It's a miracle, Steve. Yeah, it's a miracle that we've got a president that's willing to stand up for America and stand up for those that are persecuted. It's prosecuted. It's really persecution. It's not a prosecution. And everybody's skeptical until they go through it, and then they're shocked at how abusive.

[00:02:34] And really how out of the law that they're operating, they're never held accountable. I know that they have several FBI agents that pleaded guilty to fraud and other crimes, and they all seem to get probation, a slap on the wrist. And they need to be held higher to a higher standard, not less of a standard. And ironically, that's what it is.

[00:02:59] When you wrongly go after somebody because of their political beliefs, it undermines our Constitution. And it really undermines the whole premise of freedom. And it's quite alarming. And they're doing it again and again and again. We hope under President Trump. We hope under the Justice Department, Pam Bondi. And we hope under the FBI, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. We are starting to see a big sea change, though.

[00:03:27] There's a new headline out about the FBI. And they're starting to relook at several cases. For example, they want to know who brought the cocaine into the White House. Oh, yeah, right. They got 300 cameras up. And you've got Hunter Biden rubbing his nose. I mean, but we don't know who did it. Yeah, I don't know if it's Hunter or the daughter. What was the daughter's name? I can't remember, but he showered with her, which is really warped.

[00:03:56] You know, if Trump had showered with his daughter, it would be nonstop. And they wouldn't let him forget it. The whole thing is just insanity. There you have it. But they're going to look into that. They're going to look into the pipe bomb issue. I don't know if you know, but there's a $500,000 reward if somebody can kind of put the truth to power on the pipe bomb thing relating to the J6.

[00:04:21] Well, how is it that they can find a J6-er around the world from a cell phone locator and figure out who it is and all that. But they can't use the cell phone location of that pipe bomb. It clearly had a cell phone. It was on their talking. Just match the time stand. What about Rondo No. 2, though? That was all over the news, and then it just vanished. What's up with that? And that's a pattern. They had that in the Oklahoma City bombing, too. I mean, this is a pattern, right? Well, it could be.

[00:04:49] But, I mean, I'm more familiar with what, you know, what they're saying or not saying regarding January 6th and that bomber. I just think it's – I really do think it's probably tied back to Antifa or something like that. For some reason, they're not using the data that's readily available to them. All they can do is match. He's on the phone. Go look at the records who was calling from that cell phone at that time. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm not smart.

[00:05:19] I don't know. Somehow. Well, here's what I know. This is what I mean by the pattern. Every time when it comes to connecting the dots for a patriot, oh, buddy, they've got you by the short hairs. Whenever it comes to anybody else that they don't want to be caught, somehow they can't connect the dots, right? I mean, it's a pattern. We see this over and over and over. Sure. And when there's a terrorist act and it's a Muslim, they say – they go, we don't know. We don't know if it's terrorism. We don't know the cause of it.

[00:05:49] But if they had a Trump sticker on it right away, they have everything on the guy. They said he went and did this. He done that. But so every time I hear somebody say, well, you know, some terrorist act occurs because we don't know why. And we won't release the name. We won't release the race. We won't release their manifesto. You know, it's really quite incredible. I mean, there's still manifestos out there that they said they're going to release it and never did. So.

[00:06:18] Well, let's look at Jeffrey Epstein to make your point. You know, Jeffrey, Cash Patel and Dan Bungino both said that he killed himself in his cell. All evidence points to that. I don't know that I agree with him on that. But let's set that aside for a second because it almost doesn't matter. Here's what does matter to me. So Jeffrey's gone. Fine. How he got gone might be a debate for another day. But what about all the different bigwigs that were connected to Jeffrey? How come we haven't followed the money? How come we haven't followed the Lolita Express?

[00:06:48] Or released the tape. You know, how come we haven't, like, prosecuted others? Certainly Jeff wasn't all by himself in this, right? No. And there's widely or widely reported, rather, that there was videotapes of some very powerful people. And apparently those powerful people have been successful at keeping the release from occurring. And one of those powerful person was, of course, Bill Gates.

[00:07:17] And when asked, you can go online and look. When he asked, he smirked. He goes, well, he's dead now, right? I mean, they need to be held accountable. It's not really fair to only prosecute the people that aren't powerful. I mean, that's just wrong. And they need to hold them accountable. But I think they're kind of afraid to release it all. Apparently, that's what it is.

[00:07:49] So, Steve, where do we go with this kind of stuff? Can you hear me? Where do we go with this kind of stuff, though? I don't see any real answers for this stuff. Do you? I mean, I don't see... No, well, I pinned a lot of hope on Pan Bonney and Cash. And I'm a little disappointed. Let me state what I think a Democrat would do if they had those positions. They'd already had a grand jury in panel.

[00:08:16] They've already issued 100, 200 subpoenas. And they would have been taking down testimony and grilling everybody that's even come close to walk by, they think. And they did this in my case. In fact, they subpoenaed so many people. They even subpoenaed the guy who worked on my car 10 years ago. And the guy goes, why are they coming? I said, I have no idea.

[00:08:39] They were just subpoenaing anybody they thought they could be intimidated or testify in a negative way or come across in a negative way. But in our case, we set up these panels to discuss things. And we really don't set up a grand jury. We've got to set up a grand jury and start issuing subpoenas, including some of the ones in the DOJ and the public integrity section, which totally abused their authority. They need to go to jail.

[00:09:09] They keep going, well, you shouldn't do retribution. It's not retribution. It's accountability. And we lose the argument when we don't control the language. They control the language all the time. We want to be called pro-life. They call us, you know, anti-choice or something. They never are anti-abortion. They never use the proper terminology. Genital mutilation is now called gender-affirming care. It's Orwellian. And we need to stop it.

[00:09:37] And we need to start taking these people in jail that are doing it. Well, with Donald Trump at the helm, with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and others at the helm, I think we're starting to make a difference on that front. You know, I think we've got a long way to go, and I think we need to keep working on it. But we need a pardon for Steve Stockman. That's, you know, tell me about, you know, where do we go with this? Can we get a pardon for you, do you think? How is that progressing? I would love it. I want out of the gate.

[00:10:06] Yeah, thank you for bringing that up. I'm just thrilled that they appointed some very good people, and they're getting around the pardons. As I spoke to your audience before, I think Trump should do it every Friday. That's the last thing Christ did on the cross, and was to forgive someone that was convicted. And so I call it Forgiveness Fridays.

[00:10:33] And I would love to be one of the first ones pardoned on Friday, some Friday. But anyhow, I'm just excited about your support. I do believe we ought to have a good Friday and have people pardoned as a routine. That's something we're working on as well that we want to get with some of these people to make happen. Steve Stockman with me. So we're going to get to the bottom of the cocaine story. We're going to get to the bottom of the story. We'll tell you about it. In the medical field, IT security is crucial.

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[00:11:57] Why don't we say to the government, writ large, that they have to spend a little bit less? Anybody ever had less money this year than you had last? Anybody ever having a 1% pay cut? You deal with it. That's what government needs, a 1% pay cut. If you take a 1% pay cut across the board, you have more than enough money to actually pay for the disaster relief. But nobody's going to do that because they're fiscally irresponsible. Who are they? Republicans. Who are they? Democrats.

[00:12:27] Who are they? Virtually the whole body is careless and reckless with your money. So the money will not be offset by cuts anywhere. The money will be added to the debt, and there will be a day of reckoning. What's the day of reckoning? The day of reckoning may well be the collapse of the stock market. The day of reckoning may be the collapse of the dollar. When it comes, I can't tell you exactly, but I can tell you it has happened repeatedly in history when countries ruin their currency.

[00:13:04] Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, Steve Stockman on your radio. So, Steve, how do we deal with this? I mean, going forward, are we going to really see accountability on a lot of these things? How far do you think we're going to get with the Trump administration? Because, man, we've got way more than I thought we would, but not as much as I'm hoping for, right? By the way, I want to take a personal privilege here and thank you and your audience for supporting my pardon.

[00:13:31] And if they want to know more, then go, and there's another guy that needs a pardon. But you go to defendthepatriot.com and also listen to the show and contribute to it. Now, getting back to what you're saying is I still think we need and I wish we could get more people calling into the congressional office and then putting pressure on PAM to start instituting grand juries and issuing subpoenas

[00:13:57] because just having a focus group talking about it is not going to get it. We really got to start subpoenaing people and getting them on their record for this corruption. I mean, even the auto pen is alarming. Now there's an omission. It's kind of funny. It's the Democrat reporters who are going, oh, we didn't know. But if you listen to this show, you would have known long before Jake Tapper's book that came out. You would have known it.

[00:14:26] And it's kind of funny. Well, that's a problem that I have with Jake Tapper's book, Steve. And I just want to kind of get your take on this. This clown literally lied, lied, lied, lied, lied, lied, defended Biden, Biden, Biden. But how does all of a sudden he changes tune, have a book out just so timely, so perfect to make a bunch of money going completely against everything that he stood for for like four years. And guys like me would say, no, Joe Biden doesn't have his mind with him. And he would mock us and manipulate and lie and deceive.

[00:14:53] And then all of a sudden he comes out with a book saying what we've been saying all along. And he gets the funding and the credit and the mojo out. I mean, it's insanity. He made money saying that he wasn't a mental handicap or dementia. And now he's making money because he's uncovered himself. It was a cute Babylon B headline. It says, Jake Tapper found out that he was lying.

[00:15:23] Do you think we're going to get a lot more done while Trump's the president? And that's question one. And I really hope we do. And I think it's up to us. We, the American people, is kind of why I'm posing the question, because I think if we put a lot of pressure, like we did to get Sheriff Scott Jenkins pardoned, we can get you pardoned and get a lot of other things done. We'll talk about somebody else that needs to be pardoned, too, here in a few minutes. But all I'm saying is we've got a lot done, but we've got to push for more. So we've got a window of opportunity is what I'm kind of saying.

[00:15:52] Yeah, I agree. And I think the clock is running. I was very concerned that the newest thing about Rasp Newsom, I can't say it, but the polling service, which is a Republican polling service. It's not. And they're pretty accurate. They've had a pretty good track record. But for the first time, the generic ballot has turned against us. And I think the problem is Republicans have done a lot, and Trump, too, have done a lot of really great things. But we just don't market it the way the Democrats do.

[00:16:21] You know, the whole press conference is outside near their action or, like, they amplify it through emotion. And Republicans are, I call it the slide rule party because they do it through statistics and numbers, they tell you. But I think they need to be a little bit more appealing to the emotion of America and showing, you know, he's saving Social Security. And yet people portray it totally different.

[00:16:49] There's illegal aliens getting Social Security. Well, do you realize they just took 12 million people off the Social Security rolls that were over 120 years old? It's really the diet I want to know how I can live to over 120. If we could just... And get a check doing it, my friend. Huh? And get a check doing it, right? Yeah, we need... Exactly. We need Kennedy to figure out what the health plan is for those people over 120 adopted.

[00:17:19] But I don't think they're going to be calling up. But that's amazing. Just think about that. It's 12 million people getting that money. It's millions and millions, hundreds of millions of dollars. And it's saving Social Security because they're no longer paying that. And it wasn't a thank you. And they're attacking Trump and Doge. And they're attacking Trump and Doge over it like they've done something wrong. Yeah. You're taking off crooks. Well, you know, we already know that they sympathize with crooks because they want to get rid of the police.

[00:17:47] They really want to destroy America, frankly. That's what this is all about. And not cleaning up the Social Security and welfare benefits. Like, they're upset now. Our panhandler radio, NPR, asked... He was upset because Trump is demanding people that can work to go work in order to get welfare or food stamps. Isn't that outrageous? I just think making people work is horrible.

[00:18:16] I mean, it's crazy what they're doing there. I think it's wonderful that we put a work requirement on there. But the left is ridiculing it. It's just amazing to me. The average American that works so hard to pay their taxes and sees NPR upset, which is also government-funded, upset because we require that in order to get that tax money, they have to work. And I thought...

[00:18:43] I don't know if you know, but I have to fund my radio networks that I do and my show and all that. Plus, I have to fund NPR with my tax dollars. So I pay for both. Well, let me ask you this. Do you have a sushi chef like NPR does? No. Do you have 32 people per show helping you out? Do you know how many people are doing this show right now, Steve? You ready? Me, you, and my producer. That's it. Oh, no.

[00:19:13] And last hour, I had Richard Mack with me. So there was four of us on the two-hour show today. Oh, well, you know what I'm saying. This is horrible. NPR has, on average, like 32 staffers per host. The host right now is making over, well, with benefits. It's $300,000 without benefits, but with benefits, it's almost $700,000. Yes, Steve Inskeep makes almost $700,000 with benefits. Well, if you drop to zero, you're getting close to what I make. Yeah.

[00:19:43] Well, that's what I'm saying. We need to, you know, why are we funding this stuff? And I think, what is it, 97% or 98% gave the Democrats. And then they had the audacity. By the way, the woman's head of NPR is also the head of Signal. And Wired Magazine did an expose where Signal's been cooperating with the government for the last three or four years. Yeah, I've been telling people not to use Signal in other encrypted applications. But they're all out there.

[00:20:12] Yeah, the one guy goes, I can't talk to you unless you're talking Signal. I'm going, like, for what? So the FBI gets every conversation. It's horrible. Yeah, I mean, what people don't understand is when you go to those communications, you think that you're encrypting stuff. But the government has the backdoor, you know, keys to this thing. Yeah. And what you're really doing is saying out of the thousands and millions of conversations that happen constantly, please focus on mine is what you're really saying. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to do something wrong. But it's kind of funny. People use Signal. They go, well, what are we eating for dinner tonight?

[00:20:42] I'm going, like, this is really unclassified. You know, you don't have to use that if you're, you know, if you're talking one-on-one. And it's amazing, too, as someone that went through trial, I was told, oh, they don't have that. They don't have that. But during the trial, they had it. So I just think people are unwise to think that they're saying. We found that out when it came to Stuart Rhodes big time.

[00:21:05] They literally trotted out all those communications and used those against Stuart Rhodes, who I still consider a dear friend, who I'm convinced was innocent. And they literally framed him as they did to you, as they did to Scott Jenkins, as they've done to Ammon Bundy. I mean, I can keep going. And we're starting to get, you know, a lot of people in the wake of this. And every one of these people that gets abused like this ends up becoming a freedom fighter and spends their time standing up for what's right.

[00:21:31] So hopefully within the Trump administration, we can reach critical mass because I think we're running out of time and we're getting a lot done. But, man, it's such a target-rich environment, Steve. I just don't know how we can get it all done in the time we've got. Yeah, Sam, your show and your efforts throughout the years, and I know it's been a great sacrifice to you and your family. It's really appreciated by us that get targeted.

[00:21:57] And your voice sometimes is a lonely voice in the woods, but it's not inaccurate. It's very accurate. And I just can't express my gratitude over the years. You have really supported us through the trial and through the conviction and then the imprisonment. And then now for the pardon.

[00:22:18] And I want to make clear, Trump gave me a commutation, but a pardon is needed because I'm still being – well, they fired – Trump fired the guy that was going after me, which I think is great. But he, before he left, just right before the election, he filed additional suits against us. So it's been a – it's now a 12-year process since it started. It's pretty horrible, very expensive and crushing. It's very expensive. It's very tough on families.

[00:22:46] It's out of control government. It's government run amok folks. And we've got to have transparency and accountability and work towards it. You know, as long as I have breath, I will stand for the sacred cause of liberty and defend those who deserve defense and protection. It is not about retribution. It is about accountability, and it is about transparency. Speaking of Wood or Woods, John Woods is his name, right?

[00:23:11] Yeah, and I think he's going to – I saw a post by Ed Martin, who's the pardon attorney. Ed Martin's a hero. Ed Martin's a hero. Yes, he is. He's a great guy. He did the Eagle Forum, and his commentary – I wish he would continue it, but I know he can't. But his commentary – I don't know if you ever had his commentary, but he'd do about a two-minute commentary that he would send out.

[00:23:38] And I asked him one time, I said, how did you – who writes for you on those commentaries? I said, they're really good. And he told me, I do. I said, well, you're a good writer. He's a great writer. Yeah. Yeah, and he's really dedicated Christian. He's a dedicated conservative, just wonderful man. And we're convinced he gets credit in the pardoning of Sheriff Sakat Jenkins. Now we're looking for pardons for John Woods and Steve Stockman and others, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:24:05] We need Good Friday, as Steve Stockman has so well articulated, to pardon folks that have been abused and persecuted by the Biden administration, by the Biden Justice Department and others. It's a new day. It's a new dawn. It's a new life. It's a new opportunity with Trump in office. Is Trump perfect? Far from. Has he done tremendous good? Without a doubt. And we thank him and stand with him in our sacred cause of liberty. Steve Stockman, stay there, my friend.

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[00:25:04] Wall Street was already flying high this morning. This could help boost it even more. Consumer confidence, measured by the conference board, rebounded this month following five straight monthly declines. The latest Russian attack on Ukraine could be the last straw for some congressional Republicans, demanding the imposition of harsh sanctions on Russia for its devastating drone and missile strikes, the largest such assault of the war so far.

[00:25:29] We're getting some hints from President Trump that an Iran nuclear deal could soon be announced. The president sounded upbeat following the latest round of talks between the United States and Iran. I can tell you the Iran talks have been going very well. He pointed to real serious progress in negotiations and said he might have something good to report soon. I really would like to see that happen, and I think there's a good chance that it could happen. The two countries are discussing how to curb Iran's nuclear program in exchange for lifting some economic sanctions.

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[00:30:15] the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Steve Stockman, former congressman, two-time former congressman, I might add on your radio. Steve works for you. Ladies and gentlemen, DefendofPatriot.com, we need a pardon for John Woods and a full pardon for Steve Stockman. He got a commuted sentence, which is a blessing and a half. Thank you, President Trump, for that. But we need to go a step further

[00:30:44] because harassment continues from these clowns. We need Cash Patel and Pam Bondi and Dan Bongino and others to get to the bottom of this for sure. We need a good Friday, every Friday, to pardon good, honest Americans that have been abused by the system for sure. They say that the FBI is going to go after Letitia James in her real estate transactions and stuff like that. That's a headline. Steve, what do you say to that? Is that not amazing? She was prosecuting Trump and then she's doing way worse

[00:31:13] than what Trump got accused of. At the same time she's committing a crime, she's prosecuting Trump. I just, it's, I don't know if we, don't you think if we presented this to Hollywood? Yeah, if we presented this to Hollywood ago, that would never happen. No one's that stupid. And not only that too, I wonder, she had listed on the application, I guess one of the houses was in Virginia or somewhere else, and she lists that as her home.

[00:31:43] So when she got elected, is she really the elected official? Because she doesn't live in the state, technically, according to her. Well, when you're above the law, Steve, you don't really have to live in the state. None of those requirements really matter. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, there's an Amex card, it's called a black card, and I was going to create a Democrat card, and it says, Democrats never have to worry about prison because they got their get out of jail card. Don't leave home without it. I mean, it's really, you like it,

[00:32:13] it's kind of cute, isn't it? It is, but in a fun, I shouldn't say fun, in a very tongue-in-cheek way, though, it does highlight the problem in a way that people can clearly understand, and that's really the point for people to really get, is that, hey, these people are for real. They're literal criminals, and they get caught every day. The problem is none of them go to jail. For example, I mean, I mentioned this Jeffrey Epstein thing. Who connected to Jeff has gone to jail? The only one is his female,

[00:32:43] whatever her name was, fixer, and she had the videos and the list, and I didn't want that to get out. And now she says, I promise to destroy it. I mean, it's protection at that point, right? Whatever, her name is Ghislaine Maxwell, right? Right. And she promised that she will destroy it if she gets let out. I mean, this is so bad. I wish, you know, she was a citizen of France. I don't know why she decided to stay in the United States. She should have known better, but she did. She stayed here.

[00:33:13] I wish she stayed in France and released it. Well, the reason she stayed in the United States is because she knows she's getting protection. I mean, on one hand, we think we won because we got her in jail, but the truth is she's winning. I don't know if she's winning because she's not releasing the documents. I want to see the documents that she's got, all the footage. Well, that's how she's winning is she's not releasing them, so no one else goes to jail, it seems like. But I think we have enough to connect the dots and stuff to put other people in jail. But the reason she's not releasing

[00:33:42] is because her life is threatened and she's in prison. I think if she was in France, she would release it, I would hope at least. But right now, she's too, she's afraid that they're going to do even worse. But she has already, once she got in prison, she says, I promise to destroy it. But I think she needs to turn it over and we need to make it public. Well, even without her documents, though, there's enough stuff to connect to a lot of these people. All you got to do is follow the money. Yep. Right? Yep.

[00:34:13] It is incredible. You know what, it's like, the lower people get justice in terms of what the left says, you know, we're going to throw you in jail. But the minute we hold any of those people accountable, they just say, oh, it's retribution. And it's not retribution. Again, I want to say it is accountability. And to hear them say it's retribution is not true. And if we don't hold them accountable, just like a child,

[00:34:42] if you don't punish the child, the child will do it again. The Democrats, if we don't hold them accountable, will be in the same place four years from now. If, unfortunately, if the Democrats take over. And, or they eventually will, I think at one point. And they're going to, you know. And when they do, I'm afraid they're coming for us, though. You know, they try to, I interviewed Stuart. I interviewed Stuart Rhodes the day before January the 6th. So on January 5th, I had Stuart Rhodes on the program with me. And I had him on because I knew he was going to Washington,

[00:35:12] D.C. I knew he had a pattern of peacekeeping and helping, you know, protect people who were Trump supporters and everything else. They had been all over the country protecting people, police departments and sheriff's offices and county commissioners. All of the country had thanked Stuart Rhodes and the Oath Keepers for the peaceful work they were doing to protect people. And so I had Stuart on the day before and we kind of said, hey, this could go all bad. And Stuart knew it. They've literally tried to go and push for prosecution

[00:35:41] for me saying that I was involved with Stuart Rhodes and therefore I should go to prison too. I mean, this is the kind of stuff they're talking about. So anybody that even thought about going to January 6th or buying a hamburger four miles from that place is a convicted felon. I mean, it's ridiculous. But I didn't even go there. I wasn't even there. In fact, I encourage people to go to January 6th. Well, isn't it? I'm trying to get into the Proud Boys

[00:36:10] who he wasn't even near D.C. Correct. He wasn't even there. Yeah. It's unbelievable. And I've had to become a white nationalist and he's not even white. It's just insanity. But you know what? I am white and I'm proud to be white. Steve? Well, I don't think you should be a white. Yeah, I don't think you should be that way. I'm really proud of it.

[00:36:39] I told one friend we're traveling South Africa and they said, you're not a black man. He thought he was a black guy. The guy goes, you're not black, you're white. I go, oh no, you're part of the oppressor. But the thing is that labels like that where they're dividing people, my dad taught me racism was horrible and I never really saw colors until really the left started. The most racist

[00:37:09] party is the left and even their commentary they go, we need Mexicans here to do the jobs who won't. So they're still supporting slavery. I mean, they're like, you know, it doesn't stop. And then they said, well, we hate that Trump's tearing down our history. They tore down statues and every one of those statues that I'm aware of, maybe but one or two exceptions, are Democrats. So they're trying to erase their racist history past but tearing down all statues. statues.

[00:37:39] Those are all Democrats of the statues that they tore down or most of them. So, and the same thing with Keen and Teslas. Don't, most Teslas bought by liberals and they got liberals Keen and scratching damaging Teslas. And they're the ones that bought all the cars and built the whole company in the first place. Yeah. I'm not a fan of electric vehicles personally. Well, I don't have one so I can't speak to it but I don't know. I just, right now I think

[00:38:08] the battery life's not long enough and plus it takes a lot of toxic materials to create that battery and it also takes kids in Africa, literally children to dig up the special cobalt and things like that that are lithium. Well, to make matters worse when one of those things catches on fire, I mean they literally when cars catch on fire that are EVs, they literally just step back and go we can't even put it out, it's so hot, it's so crazy, it burns so long. Yeah.

[00:38:40] Yeah, water accelerates the burning so people don't realize that it's, people think water puts everything out but no, certain material like not electric fires. No, no. Well, the lithium is what's burning, it really burns hot and it's really quite dangerous too in fact, it's very toxic and, but the thing is is that I don't understand, I always thought what was a brilliant concept actually is the hybrid cars

[00:39:09] where you don't have to put a special charger in your house but it, it mixes the two technologies and it really gives you great gas mileage, you know, and, but instead they were slamming down, you know, I think you recall this in California there's so many of the way and mostly Teslas in, in California that they told the people in the wildfires come, don't charge your car because we don't have enough electricity to charge your cars. So,

[00:39:39] not only are they denying you your transportation but you can't even use it in time of crisis, you know, it's, it's, it always reminds me of the joke I used to tell back when they wanted to put, you know, grain and create fuel out of grain I'm like, you're going to drive around hungry people and it's the same thing with this electricity thing while we're cranking up AI, while we're cranking up bitcoins and mining for digital currency and all this kind of stuff and while we're cranking up AI or we're going to add EVs to the mix and stuff, we're throwing everything on

[00:40:08] the electrical grid quadrupling our needs going forward but yet we're getting rid of all the stable sources to fulfill those needs I mean, it's insanity Yeah, China has way surpassed us now in electric two and a half times more electricity is produced in China than air and that's what powers their industry and you're right by the way one of the things that burns more electricity than Bitcoin or the AI believe it or not is pot growing pot

[00:40:38] the grow lights they figured they just came out with a study saying hydroponic marijuana and stuff Yeah, where they used the grow lights and everything they said it is now in the United States it's 1% of all the consumption which is more than Wow They say Trump's looking into some nuclear solutions for this and I really support that I think that we've come a long way in nuclear since the bad old days we've got nuclear reactors that are tiny they're easy to maintain they're easy if something goes wrong to deal with them Yeah

[00:41:08] And they're water-based you said you know they're general atomics out of California and actually San Diego and they got these nukes that they call them walkaways because even if you walk away it doesn't yeah you don't they don't melt down in there but we've had many nuclear reactors since the 60s that's what we had nuclear subs and they've had very high success rates and you're right we would need the infrastructure

[00:41:38] of the wires and everything if we had set up reactors everywhere and they said they're going to do that I hope it's true you're right I don't know if you know this but if you go really I did not know that that's exciting other than at the university well that's the hope that's the I mean you know we're on the brink of this but it's so political

[00:42:08] it just can't get off the ground I get the past disasters are scary and I understand all that but we really need to educate the public to where we're beyond that stuff is it perfect no is it the best stable opportunity we have going forward without a doubt it's not debatable we would already have solved we're so short electricity and seeing what China is doing it's kind of funny too because we've getting rid of all our coal plants but China is building more coal two or three

[00:42:38] times more coal plants that we ever had in the United States and somehow they think if they pollute on their side of the world it's not going to affect us it does and they're building one or two new plants a week I mean it's incredible plus they're doing nuclear power and other resources we really got to start especially if Trump wants to bring back all these jobs like you mentioned AI and other things are going to take a tremendous amount of energy and we just

[00:43:08] for nothing you'll hit it I say burn frack drill let's embrace nuclear let's do it let's have a great economy and a great opportunity others are doing it and it will affect us Donald Trump is working on some nuclear solutions going forward he's also been opening up all kinds of current typical energy solutions as well that's been held off from us by the liberals for quite some time

[00:43:38] but it's also turned out now that China I guess they're saying hey they've got a big old COVID problem again and it's the same new strain of COVID that's hitting China is in the they had a similar Chinese virus and the thing that's amazing that we knew that China did

[00:44:08] which is horrible is that they barred inner travel in China but they encourage people with COVID to get on a plane and spread it throughout the world and they did that you know no accountability or scrutiny right no no they don't care and now they're threatening they want to take over the entire ocean and it turns out now they're already drilling they're setting up basically in fact

[00:44:38] they're the only country I know that's doing this they got a deep seeded habitat that's gone really far deep in the ground and they're going to start drilling into the earth crust through the seafloor which is really I don't know if it's good or bad but they're also going to start harvesting gold and silver and things like that and metals from the ocean floor there why would they want gold don't they know that fake currency is where it's at Steve yeah well

[00:45:08] the problem is they're doing the area which the Philippines declare for themselves they're bullying everybody and I really think we had the opportunity to get Vietnam the Philippines and Japan all together to make a NATO thing against China but they keep building these islands and they also have 300 tubes in the Gobi Desert which is a replica they probably stole it of the peace keeper which has 10 ICBMs on each

[00:45:37] warhead so they're going to have 3,000 new nuclear weapons so they'll be able to wipe every city that's major United States off the face and then Trump is supposed to be putting a defense system in place for that now too right well he's better hurry up because they're building that in the Gobi Desert and they're going to have it in about two three years plus they also this aircraft

[00:46:07] that releases thousands of drones it's a big aircraft it's like a mother ship and as it gets near the target it releases the drones which would be overwhelming the system to shoot them down when you have that many drones it's really there a lot of them will get past your defenses yeah and the only reason Russia has done that to Ukraine they used to take months to build them every

[00:46:37] this kind of thing that they're building the Chinese are building it's only for one purpose which is to destroy America and it's not self defense they're all offensive weapons one of things I think the FBI and

[00:47:07] they it was active they kind of released a little bit of a report but it was active surveillance which Biden officials said it wasn't possible well it turned out and not only was it possible they got records off because they recovered some of the equipment and what shocking was some of the equipment was very highly developed equipment from United States that was on they used our equipment against us and surveilled us President lied and said they didn't is

[00:47:37] Joe going to go to jail one could wish but I don't know if you put him in jail if he knew he would be in jail he's pretty pretty far gone I think in his mental capacity are the people around Joe going to go to jail then let's say we even let Joe off the hook fine what about people around him that used the auto pen and did all this stuff well they need they're doing a committee hearing which I think is a waste of time because I've been

[00:48:24] the charges in fact if you look at the charges in my case and in Trump's case what Jack Smith did to us or the public integrity section which were both in my case they extrapolate out things and what they do is they find one thing they charge you with and then they make up 20 different charges and they

[00:48:54] to governor they did to Trump and it's a methodology that really should be outlawed it's not criminal enforcement it's political targeting and it's really frankly very very bad and like I said earlier it undermines the constitution and I I'd like to tell Jack Smith Henry the seventh had a lawyer that did the bidding for Kent Henry the seventh and did the same thing that Jack Smith did he went and persecuted people through the

[00:49:24] law but when Henry the seventh died the people rose up and hung the lawyer that was doing that so I think people should take heed that while they probably won't get hung but they may hopefully pay for their crimes and go to jail well and lawfare is what they stack on top of it too to make sure that we can never get to the bottom of it and create accountability and transparency it's this lawfare that just continues to muddy the waters and drag it on forever and this

[00:50:16] the committee said it's all horrible but then they end up destroying all the evidence that they collected because they didn't want to get out it's just a constant destruction of evidence even the arrogant Comey destroyed evidence and made copies and then illegally released it to his roommate and he should be held accountable for that you can't steal sensitive information that's classified and give it to your roommate that's exactly what Comey

[00:50:46] believe that those shells just appeared as he happened to be walking he's so arrogant I can guarantee you he put those where it says 86 47 I'll guarantee you he's the one that put it on I mean oh I just happened to be walking down the

[00:51:16] occur and he said we didn't want to look like we're homophobic I mean not homophobic Islamic phobic like you have to protect the nation that's your primary job and they basically backed off the investigation even though Russia and other intel said these guys are going to do something and they just didn't investigate because he didn't want to look Islamic phobic it is absurd the first priority is protection

[00:51:46] is unbelievable and I would be nothing by the way he wanted Trump to go get arrested and put on an island and I think that would be fitting for him well we are building or we're going to hopefully redo Alcatraz yeah put him in Alcatraz right yeah but I thought it was interesting that he called that for Trump I'm just

[00:52:16] he the but there's so many people people don't realize that under Biden and Obama they hired some of the most leftist people and I hear our friends like Sean Eddie say it's only the top no it's not the FBI engine that came to my door was a member surprisingly left it up on our website was a member of the American socialist thing in college it's only the top I would say this what about mom going

[00:52:46] to her local school board then yeah and they wrote a memo attacking the Catholic church I'm not Catholic but I'm appalled that they thought the Catholic church was subversive you know and the thing too is Joe Biden took off all the and he put him on J6 I would love to see something similar to that only go after Antifa put them in prison not because we want retribution but we want criminal activity to

[00:53:16] stop you had hundreds of riots the what they call the summer of peace and I love the CNN reporters stand in front of a riot behind them it goes many more people were injured and killed under their riots and by the way I'm still convinced if you look at Antifa and a lot of those people that did some of the major

[00:53:45] violence never have been held accountable because they're wearing masks and that is hallmark of what Antifa does the way they acted and the one Antifa guy was walking out saying we did it we did it and he got Steve Stockman we pray for you and John and others to get a full pardon and we'll do our best to advocate for that as long as

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