Radio Show Hour 2 – 06/25/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, Sam Bushman, Lance Migliaccio on your radio. This is the broadcast for June 25th in the year of our Lord, 2025. This is Hour 202, promoting God, family, country, protecting life, liberty, and property.

[00:00:43] Hanging out with Lance Migliaccio, the Big Mig Man. We'll dismiss George. He's got a lot to do. Hopefully he'll be back with us next time. We always miss George Ballantyne, the other half of the Big Mig Brothers. The Big Mig, the tip of the spear. They say, hey, you know what? We have the right to tell you things you don't want to hear. Amen to that. TheBigMig.com. They're on Liberty News Radio, on Rumble, on X. Just look for The Big Mig. But we're talking to Mike Ritland. Again, Mike Drop is his podcast.

[00:01:12] Mike-drop.com to check that out. And it's a special two-hour interview that we're working on. Okay, so Mike dropped off. Uh-oh. Shoot. Oh, I'm sorry. Hang on a second. If you can text him and tell him to jump back on, that'll be the best thing. I don't know if he realized. I apologize. I thought I... Anyway, we'll get to that. But meanwhile, while Lance is texting Mike to have him jump back on,

[00:01:37] I'll just highlight that Mike Ritland spent 12 years as a U.S. Navy SEAL, seeing action in Operation Iraqi Freedom. And he was involved in some of the biggest special operations in history. He then served as the lead trainer for the Navy SEAL K-9 program for the West Coast operations in the United States. And then after he got out of the service, he got some lung illness that prevented him

[00:02:06] from being a dog handler and being out in the field, keeping up with the dogs, if you will. Warrior Dog Foundation was his next venture. And he started this incredible organization to help these dogs. You know, they serve their country just like military vets do, right? They're basically canine vets. And these canine veterans come back. Sometimes they've got troubles. They've got, you know, their bodies are broken, just like the humans.

[00:02:33] Their, you know, psyche, their minds sometimes have trouble adjusting to normal society. But with appropriate love and care and kindness and respect, remember, animals respond in the way they're treated, right? You treat them hostily and hate-filled, and they tend to give that back. But if you treat them with love and kindness and respect and dignity, then, hey, it's incredible. Well, this is what we're talking about. How do we give them dignity when they return? Answer, warriordogfoundation.org.

[00:03:01] That's warriordogfoundation.org to learn about that. And, you know, Mike is a dog trainer. He's just an expert in every way. He's done so much for his country, not only in service, but now that he's out, but he goes around and speaks around the country. He's written three different books, so he's a triple award-winning author. His podcast is renowned, MikeDrop, Mike-Drop.com for that.

[00:03:29] But he's also been involved in doing things for animals, because once you get this love for animals in your blood, it's almost like everything you do is for the animals, right? And so this guy's got all kinds of food programs for animals and different things like that that he does. He's got these kennels. I mean, he lives a great, great personal life. He lives a life, really a life of service. And as a dog trainer, he's learned that, hey, the best way to get the most out of your animals is to serve them and to love them and to treat them with kindness, dignity, respect,

[00:03:57] and expect a lot out of them because they love the challenge too, right? Real dogs, real animals love the challenge of whatever they're doing. They dig it and they, you know, step up to the plate with all four paws and get it done. This is the kind of stuff we're talking about. And most people don't even realize how many dogs the military actually has out in the field or law enforcement actually has out in the field. They use them because they work, right? These animals can be trained and they're very intelligent. But at the end of the day, it comes back to how many people even realize they're being used.

[00:04:26] And number two, no one's thought about the dog's life or what happens after the glory or the, you know, service. And, you know, people don't realize. People don't realize there's not a budget for this. And that is a serious, serious tragedy. We at Liberty Roundtable Live are bringing it to your attention. Compliments of Lance Miliottover, the big Meg, bringing this to our attention as well. Hey, I didn't realize that there wasn't an infrastructure for this. I just naturally thought, hey, they bring dogs into the field and obviously they've got a way to handle that and take care of them.

[00:04:55] Sadly, it's kind of like people. We don't have the infrastructure and the support and the love we need. It's all about the wave the flag. But what about, you know, when the day is done, you know, what happens then? And that's what we're bringing to your attention with this incredible program that Mike Ritland has put together. Do we have Mike back? No, not yet. She's actually trying to connect right now. All right. We'll get Mike back. I don't mean to talk forever on this, Lance. I know you were busy kind of getting him back and everything else. Do you want to chime in on this, though? I think it's really important to kind of tell the story in that way

[00:05:24] so people kind of connect the dots, Lance. You know, I think it's really interesting, the disconnect when it comes to our veterans. And that includes these important assets, these working combat dogs. And I think that what Mike is doing is he's shining a light on it. He's providing a service. And when he was on my show originally, we talked about the fact that what he really needs to do is to expand because there's still such a high need.

[00:05:51] He'd like to have a facility, one on the East Coast, one on the West Coast, and one, of course, in the middle of the country because that expansion is going to allow him to help more of these animals reintegrate. It'll make sure that after their service, they're not put down. And I think that's, you know, again, I think that people, they love the freedom. They love what our military, you know, does for us because it guarantees that freedom. They take it for granted a lot of times.

[00:06:21] And I think they take these animals for granted. You know, Mike, you talked about, and thanks for coming back to us. I don't know what happened there, but I appreciate you getting back. You know, you talked about how you need to expand what you're doing. Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, you know, the need for resources to be able to take care of these dogs post-service, you know, is not dwindling. In fact, it's the opposite. It's growing as, you know, more and more operational units incorporate dogs. And so, you know, the need is there.

[00:06:50] It's going to continue to be there. And, you know, the unfortunate reality of any individual location is there's only so many dogs you can really accommodate at one place. Because they have to be let out, generally speaking, one at a time, the more dogs you have at one location, the less time each of them are getting the one-on-one time spent with them. So, you know, we have a 30-dog capacity and we are full all the time. We have, you know, about 10 or so dogs on a waiting list at any given time.

[00:07:20] And so, you know, the need is for sure there for there to be, you know, more locations instead of just having one massive location. And I think it would make sense to have them in different parts of the country because, you know, there are working dogs all over the country. So, you know, again, that needs not going away. It's also easier to place dogs in homes for transition when they're more local where people can come and visit the dogs and kind of learn and meet with people on site.

[00:07:47] And there needs to be kind of a little bit of a fill-in-the-background understanding with these dogs so people kind of understand, hey, what am I agreeing to? How does it work? If I need some support and help as I do this, where do I go? I mean, there's a lot to it, right, Mike? There really is. You know, there's a number of dynamics that all play a role. And to me, you know, our collective goal should be to make it as easy as possible

[00:08:13] for both the units to retire the dogs, for the dogs to be rehabilitated, and then ultimately for, you know, civilian volunteers to be able to take the dogs. And, you know, to me, the best way to accomplish that is to, A, have federal funding, B, have multiple locations throughout the country, and C, raise awareness within the public to understand that there's a need for that. Are some dogs beyond rehabilitation? Obviously, physically, if their, you know, bodies are beat up at some point, the answer is obviously a yes.

[00:08:43] But what about from a transition to a normal home situation? I would say it kind of depends. You know, there's not really a black and white answer that says yes or no. I do believe that every dog has the capacity to be retired if two things are present, which is number one, the actual, you know, working facility that they're initially retired to

[00:09:07] has the resources and the competency to be able to rehabilitate that dog to the best of its ability. And then the second part is that there is, you know, whoever is adopting the dog has that same high level of training and handling competency to be able to manage a dog that maybe is a little more difficult than some of the others. So those two factors are really the biggest key indicators as to whether or not a dog can be retired

[00:09:34] or adopted out to, quote, unquote, a more normal household. And there's not a one-size-fits-all either, folks. Sometimes it's kind of a match that happens. That's true with guide dogs and blind people. It's true with dogs and service for different reasons. Some dogs have different skills and people have different skills. And oftentimes you've got to kind of find a match. Finding a home is a little like that, right? It's exactly like that. You know, our standard operating procedure, when we have somebody who fills out an application

[00:10:02] and kind of clears all of the benchmarks or checks all of the boxes required to be able to adopt one of these dogs, you know, then we'll bring them to the kennel and have them interact and spend time with several different prospects that, you know, may be a good fit for them and see which one they kind of jive the best with and match with the best. So, yeah, I mean, it is very dynamic. And there's, you know, a lot of components that contribute to whether or not it works.

[00:10:31] And that's really the best way to go about it. All right. Hang tight, ladies and gentlemen. This special interview with Mike Rilton continues. Mike-drop.com is a podcast. We're going to talk about his books, too. And we're going to talk about a little bit more about how you can get involved. There's just so much going on. But he's a former Navy SEAL. He's the host of the Mike Drop podcast. He does a lot in his life, public speak and a whole lot more. Hang tight. Liberty Roundtable Live. Have you ever had great honey?

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[00:13:04] Welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live. Of course, with your host, Sam Bushman. And along for the day, his ride or die, Lance Migliaccio. We're here with former Navy SEAL Mike Ritland. You know, this is such an incredible interview. And what's important about this is how we're shining a light on the importance of what our veterans do for us. And that includes our combat dog veterans. And what Mike's doing really is God's work. And I think he's so accomplished in so many ways.

[00:13:34] You know, Mike, I want to kind of maybe switch gears here for a little bit. Let's talk about your experience as an author. I'm always impressed. They say to be a real author, I think you have to write 13 to 18 pages a day. You've now published, I think one of them self-published, but you've now published four books. By the way, Lance, that's why I'm not a real author. Yeah, exactly. Myself included. I am working on a book, but it's a struggle when you're busy with everything else.

[00:14:02] And I'm really impressed with the fact that you produced four of these books along with everything else you're doing. Let's talk about that process a little bit and maybe how your experience as a Navy SEAL, how much of that did help when it came down to sitting down to actually push these books out? Yeah, it was definitely a critical component.

[00:14:23] I will say the first book that came out, actually the first two, were a little bit unorthodox in how I approached it and that it wasn't an idea that I had. I was approached just, again, on the heels of the Bin Laden raid and this kind of overabundance of thirst for knowledge on special operations dogs that kind of came to light.

[00:14:47] I was just kind of in the right place at the right time and was approached by St. Martin's Press, which is under McMillan, to do it. And so, you know, for me it was more about, you know, do I want to be kind of in the limelight and be, you know, kind of out there and not be such a gray man that I was used to being. And it was a difficult decision to make, but once I decided to do it, just like with everything else in my life,

[00:15:13] I went all in and said if I'm going to do this, I'm going to do it to the best of my ability and see it all the way through. And so it is a painstaking process. You know, there's the kind of obvious, the actual generating the material and content. But then the editing is a whole different animal as well because, you know, there's the publisher's perspective. There's, you know, the actual editor and kind of what message or agenda he wants to try to put forward. And then there's the original author's message.

[00:15:42] And trying to get kind of three different angles to all mesh together and everybody be happy with it can be a heavy lift. But I was fortunate to work with a really great editor and Mark Resnick at St. Martin's Press. And Macmillan was very, from a creative control standpoint, very hands-off and allowed us to kind of do it how we wanted to do it. And so, yeah, it was just, it was an incredible process and a really neat learning experience.

[00:16:10] And I was also very fortunate to have Laura Logan with 60 Minutes at the time come to a piece on me and the dogs and the foundation at the same time that that book came out. So, you know, it was on 60 Minutes. There was like 18 million people watched the episode. And it shot the book up to number four on the New York Times bestseller list. And it was the number one book on Amazon for several days after the show.

[00:16:37] So, you know, I was just very, very fortunate to have a lot of people working on the same collective goal. And, you know, but for me, the neatest part about the whole experience was just shedding so much light on, you know, how amazing these dogs are, what they're capable of, what they do, how much they help us. But then ultimately how much need there is for post-life service in supporting groups such as the Warrior Dog Foundation.

[00:17:05] The Warrior Dog Foundation.org is where you go for that. Now, you wrote a third book and everybody's dropping bombs in the world, it seems like. And Donald's even dropping F-bombs. He's so frustrated about it. And you've been frustrated about the country too, right, Mike? I have. You know, the fourth book that I wrote, and just to be clear, the first two are essentially the same book. Trident Canine Warriors and Navy Seal Dogs. Navy Seal Dogs is a young adult adaptation.

[00:17:33] So if you were to read both of them, you would feel like you're reading the same story because you, in fact, are. The third book is called Team Dog, which is more of a dog training manual on kind of a general or principle scope. And then the last one, which the title is a little dicey to say over the air, but Un-F America is the gist of it.

[00:17:55] And, you know, I found myself, like a lot of people at the start of the COVID lockdowns, incredibly frustrated with, you know, governmental controls and just kind of how the country was headed direction-wise. And so, you know, I was in a unique position in having had the podcast for a number of years at that point already. Having had a lot of subject matter experts on the show in whatever field that typically is a pretty hotbed topic politically.

[00:18:24] And what I found was that, you know, what the media portrays as the things that we should be the most worried about, when you contrast that with data and, you know, kind of the intangible proof or evidence that says this is actually what's negatively impacting the country the most, they don't line up.

[00:18:42] You know, the media catapult these very emotional hotbed topics that statistically play a much smaller role in our society than things like opioid overdoses and PTSD suicides and child sex trafficking and open border policies and big pharma and big food, you know, having such a negative impact. You know, so few of those topics are being talked about in the media.

[00:19:09] But when you look at the statistics of how many people die or severely negatively impacted from them, they weren't adding up. And so I wanted to kind of bring or shed a light on what's really plaguing this country, but approach it from a direction or an angle where the reader, you know, number one is going to understand how to approach the conversations. Number two, understand what's really worth being worried about.

[00:19:36] And then number three, how we can collectively solve those problems, but then ending it up with most importantly, how you as an individual can approach it. Because I think for most people, you know, whether they're watching the news or now at this point with podcasts and other kind of less than mainstream media outlets that are really shedding a lot of light on the problems that I'm talking about. You know, they look at it and they feel a little overwhelmed and think to themselves like, you know, that's a huge problem and I'm concerned, but what am I going to do about it?

[00:20:05] You know, and most people say, well, they feel like, hey, the fat lady's already sung, right? Yeah. Or they, you know, they hear, well, you know, make sure you vote. It's like, well, that's one thing that you can do. And what I found, and this is something I learned in the SEAL teams is set the example, you know, be the thing or the change that you want to see in society. And if you can't hold yourself to the standard that you expect everybody else to, well, then you can't really expect everybody else to hold them to a standard you're not willing to hold yourself to.

[00:20:32] And so it starts with yourself, you know, and that's a combination of being disciplined, you know, eating right, working out, being a positive member of society, contributing in any way that you can that makes you a net positive impact on society. And don't be a taker from society, be a giver. And, you know, it doesn't mean you have to join the military and be a special operator. It can be anything. It can be Boys and Girls Club. It can be a soup kitchen. It can be helping the homeless.

[00:20:59] It can be, you know, helping, you know, veterans that struggle with mental issues. I mean, there's so many different things out there that you can do that serves a purpose greater than yourself that I think that the instant you do that, number one, you realize it's not about you and people stop being so selfish.

[00:21:16] And number two is that you're contributing to society in a positive way, that if everybody does that, you know, it's the rising tide raises all ships mentality is that if everybody just puts a little bit in the entire collective nation becomes much stronger and much better and much more positive. You know, it reminds me of the old country song by Rascal Flatts. You know, when you play a country song backwards, you get your house back, you get your dogs back, you get your first and second wives back.

[00:21:45] You know, the name of your book reminds me of that. So the subtitle I'm going to give it is Snafu in Reverse. Yeah. Right? That's what we want to do to America. We want to fix America. And it's just kind of your modern day military way of saying, hey, we've got to restore the Republic, man. And here's how you do it. Right? Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it's I think most people feel that way, that the country's been been headed in a direction that they're not not happy with or feel good about for a number of years.

[00:22:13] And, you know, those types of trends have gotten to the point where it's tangible. You know, people can see the damage that it's impacting on our kids, on subsequent generations, on our society as a whole. And I think most people don't want to feel helpless. I mean, it's one of the worst feelings in the world is seeing a problem and realizing there's nothing you can do about it. But the reality is, is that you can do about it. And it does start with us as individuals. Where do people get the latest book, too?

[00:22:43] You know, the title is a little bit tart for radio because, you know, but in the modern world, though, this is something that people really feel. Well, I'm pretty tart. So how do people get the book? Myself included. It's on Amazon. Amazon's the easiest place to get it. And I know there's people that are anti-Amazon and what have you. But, you know, in terms of being able to access that, it's available there.

[00:23:09] But it's also available in audio book format in my voice on my Patreon page, which I don't think we've talked about. But, you know, that's basically an addition to the Mic Drop podcast. It's bonus footage. It's behind the scenes content. It's extra stuff that I have personally. And I actually do a once a month, one hour Zoom call with the Tier 3 members where they can ask me any questions. And we sit around for an hour and shoot the breeze.

[00:23:38] But so you can order the audio book version off my Patreon page. All right. The title again. Be careful now. Un-F America. Un-F America. Okay. And I want people to understand, you know, hey, I'm not really, you know, that title I get in older generational society or whatever, you know, whatever circles, it's a little bit unsavory. But really, the point is that, hey, we are in a serious snafu, people. And as a result of that, you know, hey, you've got to turn that around. You've got to play a country song backwards. You've got to do something for crying out loud.

[00:24:08] And at least Mike is coming to the table. Now, I want to also say when you read the book, though, as you can tell from Mike's commentary on the radio, he's very intelligent. And so it's not just full of trash words. It's full of actual solutions to restore the republic. It's full of what you can do and how you can get involved and how you can make a difference and more.

[00:24:27] We're talking about a Navy SEAL, a man that knows how to bring solutions to problems, immediate solutions on the fly, solutions that work and save lives and protect people, solutions that make a difference. His name is Mike Ritland, ladies and gentlemen. We're talking to him and Lance Miliacho on Liberty Roundtable Live. Across the land, you're listening to Liberty News Radio.

[00:24:59] Breaking news this hour from townhall.com. I'm Rich Thomason. President Trump has been demanding that NATO nations spend more on their own defense. And NATO leaders, led by the Alliance Secretary General, have now agreed on a massive hike in military spending. Mark Ritter has said allied leaders at this summit will take the bold decision to ramp up defense spending to 5% of their GDP. It's the figure that Donald Trump's been demanding from European allies.

[00:25:29] But to soften the blow, Mr. Ritter says the new target will be made up of 3.5% on core defense spending, with an additional 1.5% on undefined defense-related expenditure to be reached by 2035. The BBC's Jonathan Beal at the NATO summit in The Hague. President Trump says U.S. and Iranian officials will talk next week, continuing a dialogue that was interrupted by the recent war between Israel and Iran.

[00:25:58] Quoting the president, We may sign an agreement. I don't know. Mr. Trump taking issue with a preliminary intel report suggesting the U.S. bombing of Iran's nuclear program has set the program back by just a few months. The president insisting Iran's nuclear ambitions have been shattered. The findings come from the Defense Intelligence Agency, according to people familiar with the early assessment. The report found that while the strikes on the three Iranian nuclear sites did significant damage,

[00:26:26] they were not completely and totally obliterated, as President Trump claimed. The White House strongly pushed back on the assessment, calling it flat-out wrong. Greg Clugston, Washington. Tonight was not our night. The words of former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, conceding the New York City Democrat mayoral primary, the 33-year-old State Assemblyman Socialist Zoran Vamdani. Vamdani. Watching Wall Street, the Dow down 49 points, NASDAQ up 90.

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[00:30:13] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, ladies and gentlemen, a special interview with Mike Ritlin, well-known dog trainer, former Navy SEAL, host of the Mic Drop Podcast. Interview continues. Lance Miliacho, thebigmig.com with me.

[00:30:38] And, you know, the latest book Mike Ritlin is called Un-F-America. And you can say, wow, that's a tart title. I know. But, hey, man, more news just came in about the Obamas melting down and breaking up. You've got literally the former president of the United States doesn't even know where he's at. You've got, I mean, I can keep going, right? Wars all over the world. We don't take care of our vets when they come back or their animals. I mean, it's insanity what's going on in the country. No doubt he wants to play a country song backwards.

[00:31:07] Lance, I really want to ask Mike this. Out of his life or out of your life, Mike, you know, dog training, SEAL, public speaker, podcaster, all the different things you've done in your life, if there's one thing you've learned, whether it's been advice from somebody else or something you've learned internally, what's the single thing you've learned that you think would be great or important to tell the world? What would it be?

[00:31:34] Again, I think it's the kind of mainline synopsis of that book, which is just be the example. You know, I think far too often, you know, we live in such a nosy society, nosy judgmental society where everybody's worried about what everybody else is doing. You know, make sure your own house is in order first. And even then, you know, if whatever anybody's doing isn't negatively impacting you, leave them be, you know,

[00:32:02] and just focus on being productive and being a net positive member of society. If everybody would do that, our society would grow in leaps and bounds in terms of productivity, happiness, you know, political parties getting along. You know, it's a very simple, very simple prospect, yet seems to be almost impossible for most people to actually adhere to.

[00:32:28] When you think of the title of Mike's book, Lance, you think of Let's Go Brandon, and then you kind of go, okay, I get the title, right? Yeah, you know, and I think that's what it takes to catch the American public's, you know, focus. They've been so overwhelmed. I mean, the mainstream media narratives are so organized. To me, it's a fomented plot, right? The vision and chaos.

[00:32:52] And even when you look at what's on, say, for example, on TikTok, you know, what we're doing to our youth is where the damage is really occurring. At such an early age, you know, they really lack discipline. One of the things I hear all across the country is that companies are struggling to find people that have discipline and that have focus and are willing to put in the work. And it doesn't matter what kind of company we're talking about. Mike, you know, you're a keynote speaker now, and, you know, you've done speaking engagements all over the country.

[00:33:22] What do you, as far as topics, what are the hot topics that you find, whether you're talking at universities or conferences or maybe to corporations? Do you hear that resounding message that they're struggling, that it seems like the youth in America aren't really willing to work? They want everything now. And they also seem to be brainwashed through this message that they're getting pumped constantly on social media and the mainstream media. I think to a certain extent, yes.

[00:33:52] There's no question that the kind of coddling and kinder, gentler mentality towards subsequent generations has had a negative impact. And I think, you know, it's the culmination and response to or overcorrection, I would say, you know, in terms of the political correct movement, you know, in the mid to late 90s,

[00:34:15] where everything now turned into not wanting to hurt people's feelings and not saying anything that's brash or that might be upsetting or what have you, and just kind of beating around the bush and sugarcoating everything. And that, I think, has trickled down into child rearing where, you know, if a child, you know, can go to school and have, you know, whatever attitude they want, have absolutely no consequences for bad behavior.

[00:34:37] It only stands to reason that, you know, 15, 20 years later, that same child now as a young adult is going to be, you know, kind of a pain to deal with in the workplace if there's not been a standard that they've been held to or there's not been consequences for not doing what they're supposed to or being, you know, giving attitude, et cetera. And so there is absolutely a component to that. And I think, you know, there needs to be a sway back to the middle.

[00:35:03] You know, I don't advocate nor condone, you know, being abusive or being so hard on people that it's unfair or counterproductive. But that same problem can exist if you're too easy on them. And I see a lot of parallels in dog training that way is that, you know, good without the context of bad isn't very good. You know, and, you know, if all you eat is ice cream, it's not going to seem like a treat. If you're never punished for not doing the right thing, then it's not going to matter if you don't do the right thing.

[00:35:32] Yeah, because we'll give you sauerkraut and ice cream if you don't behave, buddy. Yeah, yeah. You know, so, yeah, there is an aspect to that. Having said that, I've also met some really amazing millennials and even Gen Z folks that are incredibly intelligent, that are incredibly hardworking, very driven, quite disciplined. There's just, there doesn't seem to be as many of them. Amen to that. Mike, I know you're a well-known, renowned public speaker, too.

[00:36:00] You're a keynote speaker on entrepreneurship, on leadership, on business ownership, on business growth, and a whole lot more. Tell us a little bit about, you know, some of your speeches and some of the topics and things like that, because you're in demand as a public speaker, too. Yeah, I mean, I just try to really relay the same message or messages that I've kind of been talking about now and in my latest book. And, you know, there's obviously a couple different angles.

[00:36:26] There's, you know, there's the dog training stuff where I'll, you know, come in and teach or consult for working dog groups, and that's kind of its own thing. There's certainly been some speaking engagements or tours that I've gone on that people just want to hear about military working dogs and or my service in the SEAL teams and kind of how that can relate to business principles and how to manage or lead,

[00:36:52] how to conduct yourself in environments where you've got to make difficult decisions and how lessons from the battlefield or just in the military and in that world can translate to very simplistic and easy to understand and digest, you know, business or leadership lessons. And then there's the last component, which, you know, is more kind of on the political side of, you know,

[00:37:17] I've been in a unique and incredible position to be able to interview some of, you know, the most leading experts in their fields for a lot of the things that we talk about and that plague our society or that are hotbed topics on the news. And being able to spend, you know, the long-form format of four or five hours with them asking whatever I want and having follow-up questions that pertain to it, you know, has given me quite a bit of insight on each one of those genres or industries or problems.

[00:37:45] And so, you know, it's given me a pretty well-rounded and, I think, unique perspective on kind of how it all fits. It's together and, you know, how it's relevant to today's society. So it's something I certainly enjoy and, you know, am happy to do and find it, you know, just an honor to be asked to come speak to so many different groups. Well, and being a Navy SEAL, it's kind of like a crash course in learning how to, one, manage, but two, be managed,

[00:38:13] and three, put together, you know, planned events, planned exercises and things like that, too. You gain a lot of those skills kind of along the way just by the nature of things. Now, I think this is hashtag rumor mill, but I'm just going to throw it out anyway. I think one of Mike's latest books is supposed to be coming out and stuff like that. It's like how to train your spouse, and then it's subtitled A Little Like Dog Training, right? A Little Like Training Your Dog, you know? Yeah.

[00:38:40] Well, I will say, I mean, that the parallels are pretty exact, actually. I mean, you know, not to oversimplify it, but, I mean, the reality is that, you know, if your spouse or children, I mean, and it can be a coach with their athletes, a student with teachers, a boss with employees, you know, anything that you want to happen again or continue to happen or more frequently take place,

[00:39:04] you need to positively reinforce it and incentivize that individual to continue to do it or do it even more often. On the transverse, if it's something that's an undesirable behavior that you want to extinguish, you have to provide a consequence that is substantial enough to actually extinguish the behavior and cease for it to continue to happen, but it's really that simple. Where I think most people fail, and this is in all realms, whether it's dog training or being a parent, a spouse, whatever,

[00:39:33] is inconsistency. You know, if it's wrong, it's always wrong. If it's right, it's always right. And, you know, where people fail, I think, is, you know, they've had a long day at work, they come home, and whether it's, you know, the dog, the kids, the spouse, whatever, they do something that's important, that's valuable, that you appreciate. You have to recognize that every single time. You know, people are going to stop doing things that you either want them to do or that you value and appreciate if you never show acknowledgement

[00:40:03] and don't give them both that acknowledgement and some sort of positive reaction or consequence for it. I mean, one of the kind of jokes that I say to relate to dog training is that, you know, if your wife goes out of town and you spend the weekend cleaning the entire house, you know, and you spend hours doing it, and she comes home, and the very first thing she notices is that you didn't take the trash out. It has no compliments or appreciation for you spending the time. Like, you didn't take the trash out? It's overflowing. Like, what's wrong with you?

[00:40:33] But then you yell back. But I did. I'm the one who let the dogs out, ladies and gentlemen. Quick pause as we run this commercial. WarriorDogFoundation.org. Here it is. Forged through rigorous training and honed by the finest instructors on Earth, these canine units serve beside our nation's warriors as they fight to preserve and cherish. When these warriors complete their duty,

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[00:41:31] Yeah, you're on a roll. Although I'm not sure, comparing somebody's wife to dog training, I'm not sure how that's going to go over with the audience. Although Mike did a nice job of cleaning up for you there. No, I know Mike did an amazing job of cleaning that up for you. I was wondering where that was going to go, Mike. Kudos to you in making that sound better than the way Sam presented it. Well, they say the whole world's going to the dogs, and we're trying to rescue it all. Mike, dogs and everybody else, right?

[00:42:00] Yeah, I mean, I can't argue with that. It's always the common goal of everybody, I think, is to get us going in the right direction. So however we can make that happen, I'm all for it. I've got to throw out a political topic because Mike, in his mic drop podcast, it is a mic drop. I'm telling you, it's no holds barred, hard hitting. You better be ready for it when you listen because, man, it's not ready for radio. It is ready for, you know, people who are blunt, want to deal with it. If your feelings are going to get hurt, you better go away quick because they will.

[00:42:29] But if you have a thick skin and you really want truth, he's a truth teller. That's for sure. Now, I want to talk about this ex-Biden aide. Her name is what, Nera Tandon? I think it is. She admits under oath to the House Oversight Committee that she controlled Joe Biden's auto pen. Now, she says, hey, everybody does it. It's okay. Mike, your response to that. Remember, you're on the radio. Well, yeah, I would just say disrespectfully disagree.

[00:42:59] I don't agree with it. And to me, let's just say hypothetically that everybody does do it, which I don't believe. That doesn't mean it's right. You know, I mean, it's a pretty simple premise, in my opinion, is that, you know, if the president is doing executive action, he should be the one doing it and the only one doing it. He's the only one with that authority. And he should be the only one actually signing whatever it is that he's signing.

[00:43:26] And to me, I can't even believe that that's up for debate or discussion or that somebody would give an excuse like that to try to justify doing things like that. It's just, God, it's disappointing. Lance, I say, you know, Donald Trump said, hey, take the guns and due process later. I reject that, too. What I'm saying, though, is toss her in the clink before she testifies, Lance. Let's get this done. Come on. You know, as leader of the free world, of course, you know, and arguably the most powerful

[00:43:54] position in the world, I think giving somebody authorization and the ability to duplicate your signature with little to no oversight at many times while you're vacationing down in St. Croix, eating some ice cream and playing golf, sounds like a really bad idea to me. I mean, you wouldn't want to do that when you're running your radio station. You wouldn't want to do it if you're running all of Mike's endeavors. I sure as heck wouldn't do it. So, you know, and I think, you know, she's not the only one. I think they've identified potentially five people.

[00:44:25] But the power of that signature should not be left in the hands of aides. And, you know, I know AutoPen's been used in the past. Maybe he's not the first and maybe he won't be the last. But I think, as Mike just said, this can't stand. And if we're not – this is my toughest thing for the administration. I know that if you and I ran into the White House and signed off a few documents, maybe

[00:44:51] signed a line item budget for Mike's business and we weren't authorized to do so, I imagine they would wrap us up before the sun set. And accountability and consequences, I don't see it yet. I don't see Pam Bondi – you know, and again, I'm friends with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. I don't see them being allowed or doing what they should be doing. We were promised that kind of accountability and consequences. And I think when you violate the laws of the United States – and in this case, I think

[00:45:17] this is a violation of American people's trust in the administration and the executive branch. This should not be going on. And we just haven't seen enough of what I would say should be the hammer. She should be locked up like so many others. I'm still waiting for the dirty 51 plus 8 to get locked up. I'm waiting for the Secretary of Retribution to get her done there. Yeah. That's what I'm saying, you know? Yeah.

[00:45:44] Yeah, I mean, to me, I'll reduce it down to the most simple premise that I think anybody and everybody could understand is just think about how many other aspects of our daily lives that you and I wouldn't be able to have somebody else use an auto pen for our signature. There's tons of – Yeah, I don't need to pay my mortgage because, man, there was an auto pen over there. I mean, you know – Sorry. Yeah, bank accounts, closing houses, signing for prescriptions.

[00:46:12] I mean, there are so many other things that, in my opinion, are far less dangerous if that power is abused that you're not allowed to do that with and for good reason. How this is any different and how anybody could possibly rationalize it in a way where it's okay or minimized is baffling. Well, and that's the reason – the title of the book, folks. It's like when that stuff starts happening, nobody understands it, but there's no consequences.

[00:46:42] And I'm telling you right now, if we have to play a country song backwards to resolve it, we've got to do what we've got to do there. It's really, really important. Mike, I know when you get interviewed, everybody else asks all the questions and stuff like that. I like to play slightly different. I ask a bunch of questions, things that kind of interest me or that I think I would want to know, and I kind of consequently think the public would want to know the same things I'm wondering or thinking and everything else. But in an interview, I also like to throw it back to the person getting interviewed and say, hey, what have we left out? What have we overlooked? What things would you like to focus on in the last couple of minutes of the show, sir?

[00:47:12] Well, just for anybody listening that wants to find out anything more, again, I would just say, you know, my podcast, Mic Drop, I'm very proud of and I would encourage people to listen to it. I also started a dog food treats and supplements company. I've got online training that's very, very reasonable for people to be able to apply these principles to train their own house pets. It's not just for high-level working dogs. And then, you know, last but certainly not least, I know we've talked about it, but I really

[00:47:41] can't stress enough the importance of the Warrior Dog Foundation and just how vital our mission is to be able to give these dogs dignity and grace in their final years and allow them to live those years out in a way that is commensurate with their service. And we cannot do that without help from society because, again, the federal government gives us zero. So I just, I really appreciate you guys providing the platform and the mouthpiece to be able to

[00:48:09] bring awareness because it's very important. And isn't it teamdog.shop? Yeah, for all of the dog products and such. And then micdrop.com for the show. And of course, warriordogfoundation.org for the nonprofit. And there's ways you can fund that. There's ways you can possibly take a dog and give them a home. I mean, there's so many ways to get involved and volunteer and make a difference. Lance, you want to wrap this up for us?

[00:48:34] Well, you know, listen, I think as this probably happens to all of us, so many times people struggle with what they can do to make a difference. And I think if people would just pick up the phone and call all their congressional representatives in D.C. and let them know how they feel about this. I mean, I don't think anybody should sit on the sidelines, especially when it comes to our veterans, because without them, you know, I honestly think that our freedom is at risk. I think Americans misunderstand, you know, freedom, sacrifice.

[00:49:03] And this military service is, you know, of course, the men and women of the country have done incredible things for us. And they've sacrificed many things in their own lives. And these dogs have done the same thing. They've been put into service. They've faced the harsh consequences of combat. And to just, you know, decide, oh, well, I guess we'll just have to euthanize because there isn't a place to go. And in this case, there is a place to go. In the case of Mike Ritland, he's got a model. He knows what needs to be done.

[00:49:31] And when we look at the budgets and the way they're going right now, we have seen $4.7 trillion worth of waste. We've got missing money. We've got magic money computers. This is the kind of good we should be doing. If they're going to spend the money and they're going to spend our money, then this is the kind of project I want to see supported. So get on the phone. Get on email. Let your congressional members know that by supporting Mike Ritland, they're doing, you know, they're doing a service for the country that's needed. And here's a guy that's willing to do it.

[00:50:01] At the end of the day, it's not an easy job. And he's chosen to make this his life's work. And I just don't think there's any reason we shouldn't be supporting him financially and making an effort to expand what he's doing so that these dogs have a place to go after their service. Well, you know, I really can't thank you. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, Mike. I just wanted to say I can't thank you guys enough for both having me on and conveying

[00:50:27] that message because, you know, again, this isn't something, you know, that I just started or, you know, that we're trying out and figuring out the process, you know, to the point of, you know, having a model. You know, we've been doing it for 15 years this August. And, you know, we've seen a lot of dogs come through our facility and, you know, at this point received dogs from pretty much everywhere. I mean, police departments all over the country, military working dogs, military special operations

[00:50:54] dogs, Customs, Border Patrol, Secret Service, Federal Protection Services, State Department, everywhere, you know. And the entire country from a working dog entity standpoint has utilized us as a resource, as a last ditch resource in where the dogs would have been euthanized if we hadn't taken them. And it's something I'm very proud of. But I'm also, you know, something that I would like to bring to the attention of the American people that, you know, the federal government to this day, 15 years later, still

[00:51:24] hasn't stepped up to do the right thing and fund these projects. And it's not about even funding the Warrior Dog Foundation. I mean, ideally, I would love to see my organization and all like it, you know, not be necessary and be able to close their doors because the U.S. government has built the facilities and, you know, augmented the resources. I would like to see a private sector managed because I know they'll do a good job and they'll care and they'll make it local and everything else. But I'd like to see federal funding and competing for that.

[00:51:53] And that way you get kind of the best of both worlds. The only dogs, as far as I understand, Mike won't take are Joe Biden's dogs like Commander and such like that. They attack everybody on the planet. And they're crazy. So it's not only where they're treated, don't you think, Mike? Well, not only would I take Commander, I would I would prefer and love to do it to prove a point in that, you know, that that's not a behavior that needs to be tolerated, shouldn't be tolerated and is fixable.

[00:52:22] Again, to your point, if you just have the right person at the helm, you know, it would be it would be an honor to be able to do that. But mine was a little bit of a joke. But Mike's right. And the point is, it's it's how they're treated and what kind of leadership they see. If they see kind, loving, but accountable leadership, man, people gain respect in a hurry, don't they? Just like with parents and spouses. Yes, absolutely. See how see how spot on I am with that, man. That's really the next book, Lance. You thought I was kidding, but it's real.

[00:52:51] No, I think it was more about the delivery than what the benefits of that book could do for the American public. Come on, we got to have fun on the radio. So Mike drop if you can handle the truth, if you can deal with, you know, the tart, you know that the real the hits no holds bar. So it's pretty rough on one hand. On the other hand, it is full of solutions. Mike, as you could tell, is incredibly articulate. So it's not just everything going to the dogs. Well, it is, but it's for a good cause. You see what I mean? Ladies and gentlemen, this is real. There are solutions.

[00:53:21] And Mike is working on them. He's a renowned keynote speaker. And I really want to finish on why now is the perfect time for people to have a personal protection dog with all the craziness going on. It's a perfect time to get some kind of protection. Right, Mike? Yeah, I mean, you know, the volatility and dynamic nature that our society finds itself in is well suited for that application. And I will say, you know, it's really the only security mechanism that is kind of a one

[00:53:50] size fits all in terms of it checks all the boxes. You know, alarm systems are reactionary or alert based. You know, there's not a defense mechanism calling the police takes time even using your own weapon. You know, it can be used against you. Maybe you can't get to it in time or don't have the capacity to actually use it when need be. You know, a dog, once they're bonded with you, is an early warning. It's a detection. It's a deterrent. It's an alarm system. It's a reactionary and it can't be bribed or manipulated by any outside force.

[00:54:19] So it's kind of a one-stop shop security application. Mike-drop.com, ladies and gentlemen. To learn more about his podcast, to learn more about all that he's doing, incredible stuff by great people making a difference in this country. You know, when you listen to the mainstream press, everything is negative and downer. This is positive and solutions-oriented. Why? Because you're listening to Liberty Roundtable Live, ladies and gentlemen. For Lance Biliacho, for our dear friend Mike, God save our republic. Have a great look.