Radio Show Hour 2 – 06/30/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, Sam Bushman, Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com on your radio. Hard-hitting talk continues now. This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for June 30th in the year of our Lord, 2025.

[00:00:40] This is Hour 2 of 2, the goal always to promote God, family, and country, and to protect life, liberty, and property, and to do so on your radio and the traditions of our founding fathers. We reject revolution unless it's a Jesus revolution. Then we're in because we follow the Prince of Peace. Our goal is a peaceful restoration of the greatest country on the face of the earth. Our greatest export should be the supreme law of the land, helping countries understand the proper role of limited government based on jurisdictions and realizing that God is at the helm and he rules all nations.

[00:01:10] And under him, we the people have great sovereignty delegated to sections of government or jurisdictions or boundaries or whatever you want to call it, dual sovereigns between the states and the general government, each tasked with specific responsibilities, and they can't take away or add to those responsibilities. They're just meant to perform the responsibilities via the contract. That's the deal. So welcome to the show. Dr. Scott Bradley is with me. So these sad people got shot up in Idaho. I guess this guy lured a bunch of firefighters by starting a fire.

[00:01:39] Then the firefighters came to deal with the fire and he just opened, fired on everybody, pardon the pun. And everybody's getting shot up and they're still trying to figure all that out. Two people dead for sure. It's a sad deal up in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. A big prayer for the families and a prayer for those who are suffering. And I don't know what's going on, Dr. Bradley, but it seems like this stuff happens more and more frequently in our society. I don't know if it's mentally unstable people. A lot of times the psychotropic drugs seem to have an effect on this and everything else.

[00:02:07] But really the lack of people being tied to God, family, and country are really the source of these problems. Even though downstream we want to blame it on something else. Very rarely do they bring up God and family and the proper things that tie people, ground people to stability and safety and really to God's law, doctor. We've got to mention this if we're going to bring this up. Yeah, there's no question. There's so many causal situations that lead to these kinds of things.

[00:02:36] You know, I am concerned, obviously, about any of this kind of degradation in society, but this isn't particularly close to home. I used to do wildland firefighting. I had a daughter that did. I've got a son-in-law that does. I've got three grandkids right now that at this very moment, even as we speak, are on wildland assignments. And, you know, some of these whacked-out people get, you know, they're copycat kind of things that happen,

[00:03:04] and this has got to be a big concern going forward. But I really do think that the baseline causes need to be addressed. Sometimes people, these people that do these things, I think, are kind of the most vulnerable of all society. They kind of snap. They think we're hopeless. We can't, you know, we're out of options. I've got to take this. And there's no good that comes out of this. Innocent people are killed, and somebody just whacks off.

[00:03:34] There's another incident that happened that's fairly close to us. It just happened yesterday morning. Some strange, strange things where people just seem to be snapping, and people die. And it's just amazing. You know, you talk about those psychotropic kind of SSRI kinds of drugs that are, you know, psychotropic, that they just—

[00:04:04] Utah probably got the highest percentage per capita of people that are on those kinds of things. I mean, you know, you look about it, all of these mass killings, if they ever publicize their, you know, drugs that people were on, they always have these things in them. And there's something really weird going on.

[00:04:27] You know, hopefully Bobby Kennedy and his, you know, FDA and Health and Human Services can take a look and say, wait a minute, these things are being approved for human consumption? Are you kidding me? Because they have so many times they go backwards, you know? There's just a whole bunch of causal things that we all do need to, you know, kind of do a recalibration, go back to the basics of, you know, God, family, and country, and let's stop doing the whacked out things we're doing. Amen to that.

[00:04:57] And we need real investigations whenever somebody goes off and does this kind of stuff. We need to find out, hey, was this person on psychotropic drugs? Is this person illegal? Where do these people get their guns? What was their family life like, et cetera? Because when you dig in, you'll find out most of the time these people were fatherless or they didn't have a father in the home. You'll find out they're on psychotropic drugs. You'll find out they never had God or any religion or family structure in their lives. You'll find oftentimes they were spurned by everybody but their mother or whatever, you know, where they, you know,

[00:05:26] try to have relationships with females or whatever, and it doesn't work out well. They get shunned all the time because they're weird or strange. And you'll find that, you know, every time something goes like this with rare exception, so I shouldn't say every time because it's almost every time, but it's rare exception that, hey, there's not these factors that I'm pointing to involve. Hey, did they have any tie with the government? Was the government working with them? Because oftentimes, hey, you'll find out there's some kind of provocateur or some strange relationship behind the scenes. Oh, they were working with a psychologist or a psychiatrist.

[00:05:56] And, oh, they were on psychotropic drugs. And, hmm, strangely, the government was somehow involved with them in some way, or they had a brush with the military, or they're this or they're that. You know, you'll find these signs everywhere. It's just strange. It could be, I guess, the shooter's dead in this case. So, hey, getting answers to that's going to be hard. They're not going to tie it to some of these issues that I bring up. But I'm telling you, every time these things happen, we need to talk about God in people's lives. And I'm not here to talk about the keys to theology based on a certain, you know, denomination or anything like that.

[00:06:24] I am just here to say, if you don't have ties to God, you don't have ties to family, you don't have ties to country, and you put some drugs in and a little bit of push from government or some weird, you know, agency that wants to provide provocateur, you know, elements plus funding or training or guidance or whatever, you'll find that almost every time these elements are present over and over and over. And a lot of us conservative folks in the news have been talking about this. They dismiss us and say, oh, you're crazy. There's nothing to it. My response is let's dig in and have real investigations and find out.

[00:06:53] And you'll find out there are relationships like this and situations that make this happen. But you find that, you know, people who have two parent homes or fathers in the home or some of these kind of things, some discipline, some tie to God. I'm not saying it can never happen in those conditions, but it's rare, rare, rare indeed. And when we see more and more and more of this happening, hey, go back to the baseline of a God ordained family and you'll start to find solutions every time. So our prayers are out on that.

[00:07:19] Let's talk a little bit about this alligator Alcatraz, Dr. Bradley, because it's in Florida and Donald Trump commissioned it to happen. They're going to have it up by mid-July. So just in a few weeks, it'll be up and running. They say it can hold up to 3,000 plus illegal aliens. They say, hey, good luck. It's pretty dang secure. You'll have miles to go in alligator infested swamp land. If you want to try to escape, not likely. But they say, hey, move the, you know, a couple of thousand feet over

[00:07:47] and we can fly you out on a plane to your country of origin and deport you, et cetera. It's the perfect place, the perfect situation. What do you think of this alligator Alcatraz, sir? Well, I have mixed emotions about it, honestly. I mean, first of all, I think I could get out of it. I mean, I don't want to prove that. But I don't think that it's as impenetrable and secure as everybody says, oh, there's critters out there. Well, you know what?

[00:08:18] People deal with critters and you have to go through life. And maybe a lot of people, maybe if you grew up in the Bronx, you're going to be scared to death of pythons and stuff like that. But the fact is that they're just nature. And it's something you can work through if you had to. So I don't think it's nearly as secure as they're saying. But secondly, though, I'm a little bit chewing my tongue on some of these things.

[00:08:43] They look surprisingly like concentration camps sometimes when these things get created. And, you know, the United States really is the largest incarcerator nation in the world. Well, probably Somalia, they have more criminals per capita or something. But by and large, if you look at, you know, people in society throughout the world, we have more people incarcerated per capita than any other nation, really.

[00:09:14] And I mean, more than China, more than Russia, more than Afghanistan, more than Iraq. I mean, we have a propensity to this kind of thing. And I think we're really, in a way, going the wrong direction with these kinds of things, where you can do mass incarcerations. I mean, I personally, for years, the guy's dead now, I believe. I haven't had contact for a while. But he spent time in the gulag system in Russia.

[00:09:43] And it was a massive incarceration system that Stalin relied upon. And even coming forward into more recent times with this acquaintance of mine came out of it, you know, after being in it for about 10 years. But the fact of the matter is, incarceration is not what I would call a really good first choice. And the United States has done this.

[00:10:11] And you look at the omnibus crime bills that they put out in the 90s, for example, that Orrin Hatch and Joe Biden had, you know, fingerprints all over that thing. I mean, talk about the criminals that do things. We have a hang-a-my kind of mentality in this country so often. And people say, well, we're for law and order. But maybe some of the laws just don't need to be there. Maybe we're just barking up the wrong tree with a lot of things.

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[00:13:09] All right, Dr. Bradley, yours truly on your radio. We're talking about this alligator alley, alligator Alcatraz, if you will. And I agree with President, or Dr. Bradley, that you know what? Oftentimes we find that, you know, it sounds great. Hey, lock them up. But man, we're one of the greatest prison nations in the country. We spend more on prisons than any other nation, that's for sure. More on war and more on prisons. Both of them very dangerous. In this case, they're talking about illegal aliens. Hey, you got to find some place to round them up and put them on planes and send them out. And this is the best place to do it.

[00:13:39] Look, these people come from third world countries, most of them. They deal with wilderness and creatures and different things. I don't think it's as impenetrable as they think either. I think Dr. Bradley's right about that. I also think if we're not very careful, first it's them, then it's us. If we're not very careful, you know, you crank up these things. They're talking about reconstituting Alcatraz off the coast of California as well, Dr. Bradley, for some of this stuff too. And so you look at this and you go, man, what are my options if, say, the next president doesn't like Sam Bushman

[00:14:06] because I speak against the IRS or I speak up for Sheriff Richard Mack's Supreme Court case win or I, you know, possibly don't favor going to war or whatever the case. Pretty soon, hey, am I going to end up in the alligator Alcatraz? Am I going to end up in the real Alcatraz? Am I going to end up as deported to a third world nation or Guantanamo Bay? All I'm saying is I look at this and at some point you go, hmm, I get it and I think there might be a need for it when we've got all these illegal criminals running around, especially the ones from, like, Iran and stuff.

[00:14:32] Man, they could create an insurrection, you know, cells in America that could really wreak havoc. We need this. What we need to remember, though, is in the hands of the wrong people is what the real discussion needs to be because right now, if you like Trump, you're going, okay, it's a good idea. But pretty soon what happens if a Joe Biden's in charge of it or maybe worse, what about somebody that's like a Joe Biden but actually he can think and act on his own merit? It could go bad fast. Just imagine that in the hands of a Barack Obama or a Bill Clinton, for instance, to make the point.

[00:15:01] This could go south in a hurry, doctor. Well, you know, that's the cautionary note that I try and speak about some of these things. You know, you build a bunker that nobody can get in. Well, you're going to have trouble getting out. I mean, and that's, again, a military kind of analogy. But there's the door.

[00:15:24] Unfortunately, the door probably won't swing both ways on this in that we may be building our own prison society in a way. And I just say, let's take a deep breath sometimes and see how we're approaching things. And let's make sure that baseline principles are not being violated. And very often times, it's really interesting. Let's just take, for example, going to war.

[00:15:52] If Barack Obama was taking you to war, most of the people that love Trump would say, oh, no, it's not. We can't do that. But when Trump goes in the heads and does it, I have seen the discussions that are happening. And because Donald pulled the trigger and violated the Constitution, there's no other way to define it than that. I mean, they start saying, well, we didn't go to war. It's not against the Iranian people. It's against their nuke program.

[00:16:21] And no, no, this is not war. It's war, people. People need to recognize that had Barack Obama done this or Bill Clinton or Joe Biden, the people that are cheering on what Donald Trump is doing would be absolutely, poor pun, up in arms. And we need to realize that it's good for the goose, good for the gander kind of thing. And if it's wrong for one, it's wrong for the other.

[00:16:50] And we need to start thinking less about whose agenda we're in favor of and more about preserving the principles of liberty for everybody. Your kids are going to suffer under what we build. And if we keep building gulags, if we keep going to war, I mean, you know, you look at you mentioned, Sam, we're a warlike nation. We're incarcerating nation. We're we're a drug nation. I mean, come on. Those are the big money mongers. I mean, you look at where the big bucks are. It's in war.

[00:17:20] The big bucks are in pharma. The big bucks are more and more into, you know, control. And you look at, oh, we've got to have a better system that monitors things. Cameras everywhere. Yeah, we'll be safer. You're trading, you know, your liberty for safety. And just because your guy's in office right now doesn't mean it can't be abused with a slight tweak in the future. And so I say.

[00:17:49] Well, and the point about trading liberty for safety, the idea is that, you know, you're not going to end up with either. I don't think you can trade liberty for safety and expect safety to hold. What you'll do is lose both, Dr. Bradley. That's what the founding fathers warned of repeatedly. Well, right. You know, you may be safe against everybody but yourself if you're in solitary confinement, but it's still solitary confinement. And, you know, you hear all of these rationalizations that people hear.

[00:18:15] I am sick to death of people that, you know, the real parallels between Pearl Harbor and what we've been doing around the world, they're uncanny. Oh, no, it's not war. It's not war unless we put boots on the ground. Well, Japan didn't put any boots on the ground in Pearl Harbor. I mean, probably no more than we did in Iran.

[00:18:40] But the fact of the matter is it was an act of war and everybody recognized it as such. And this idea that war is the most onerous burden that any nation ever bears, it's legalized, institutionalized mass murder. And it better be just and it better be it better have checks and balances and safeguards in there. You can't willy nilly do it. That's why the president was never authorized.

[00:19:09] Go back and read the 69 Federalist paper where Hamilton, in this particular case, made a pretty cogent argument about it. And he talked about how this this the president cannot initiate. He cannot. This is not this is not a decision. They say, oh, we'll never get the Congress to agree with it. Well, then maybe it's OK. We don't. I mean, if you don't have justification, if you can't say this is really our program. Think for a minute, Sam.

[00:19:39] If if we had a true threat against the United States, do we need a draft? No, we don't. Because people would be lined up around the block to try and get in and protect their homeland. But we have, you know, this conscription thing that's hanging over our heads. Oh, well, everybody owes the government. No, we don't know the government. The government's purpose. If you read the declaration, which we're going to be celebrating this coming week. No, this week.

[00:20:07] If we have that, you know, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal. They're endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights. Names a few. And then it says to secure these rights is the reason we have government to secure God given rights. This idea that that. Oh, man, we need to be thrilled to go into slavery for the government. That isn't what it's about.

[00:20:32] The 13th Amendment, this anti-slavery thing applies to you and me buying people, apparently. But it doesn't apply to the government the way they're talking now. It doesn't apply to the government actually being able to say you owe us two years of your life, baby. No, we don't owe anything. The government is there to secure our God given rights, not to reduce them or eliminate them. And so few people have clarity of thought on this thing.

[00:21:03] It's it's one of those things where we're just because Trump's in there. Man alive. We all love the military and you all ought to serve. It's like, OK, I served. But I did it as a volunteer basis. But it doesn't mean everybody has to. And if there was a clear threat, I think you'd have people standing in line. Probably even me as old as I am. I could maybe reload somebody's rifle. I don't know.

[00:21:30] But the fact of the matter is we have all these twisted, perverse things and and we're really getting out of whack. That's the bottom line. So we've got to take a deep breath, take a chill pill and start looking at this through the lens of what this nation's all really about. And it's not that there's an interesting story where Gavin Newsom now is suing the Trump administration for a big bunch of money.

[00:21:58] And I guess over is this defamation idea. Newsom feels like, hey, they committed defamation against him or whatever they've wronged. And the battle is that, you know, Trump is saying, hey, you know, I had a phone call and Newsom saying, no, we didn't. There was no phone call and this and that. And the debate is over the phone call. And, you know, somebody is saying somebody's delusionary and somebody else is saying, well, man, they you know, I don't know how they can't remember the phone call. What's going on with that? And anyway, then Trump and team put up that there were proof that the phone call was made.

[00:22:28] And Gavin says, I never got this call and it didn't happen. And, you know, somebody is lying and somebody is going to get caught with their hand in the cookie jar on this one. But just more lawsuits everywhere. Yes, we become incarceration nation, which is tragic. Yes, we become a warlike people, a warring nation. We've also become a litigation nation with lawfare. I mean, how much of our tax dollars between Newsom and Trump are we going to spend on these clowns going to war over non nonsensical discussions internally or in the United States or whatever you want to say domestically? Whatever word you use for that.

[00:22:58] And it's just shocking how we can just be in this and who's going to pay it. I mean, I think Newsom and Trump on it, if they have that battle, that'll pay for it out of their own pockets, not make the taxpayers pay for it. This is going to be ridiculously expensive. The lawfare never seems to go away. So we're a litigation nation now, too. Instead of turn the other cheek or be forgiving of one another or don't take advantage or take offense at a word or this kind of stuff, we seem to just, I don't know.

[00:23:24] We've just turned into lawfare nation to the detriment of everyone, doctor. Well, I know we've got to take a break momentarily, but John Adams said that the Constitution was only adequate for the governance of a religious and moral people. And we've pretty much left that status, at least in some of the big high-profile cases. And, you know, you talk about, well, it's in the fulfillment of my job, and so you're going to give me immunity.

[00:23:54] And suddenly everybody's kind of held harmless for all of their actions. We really have lost sight of what these people that hold office really got a responsibility to do. Roger that. Dr. Scott Bradley and yours truly, Sam Bushman, continue in seconds on your radio. I mean, it's a clown show what we see in the news these days. Everybody's suing everybody over everything all the time.

[00:24:20] There's never a time when, you know, there's not a gazillion and six lawsuits against Trump and everybody else. It's insane, folks. It's got to stop. The good news is there was 40-plus suits against Trump because they say he can't do this and he can't do that at the appellate court level. And they've pretty much been shut down and handed their heads for that. So that's good news, at least, to some degree. All right, hang tight, ladies and gentlemen. Dr. Scott Bradley continues on your radio.

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[00:25:19] Senator Tom Tillis of North Carolina announced he will not seek re-election next year. The announcement came after he voted against advancing Donald Trump's massive bill of tax breaks and spending cuts. Tillis opposed cuts to health care programs. The president responded by berating Tillis in social media posts. He accused the Republican senator of seeking publicity and threatened to campaign against him. Greg Clogston, Washington.

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[00:30:13] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Hey, Dr. Bradley, so much going on, so little time. They've got this new deal out. I guess it's a cyber threat. And Donald Trump and everybody's wondering about it.

[00:30:43] By the way, a little correction. I guess Gavin Newsom isn't really suing the Trump administration. I guess Gavin Newsom is suing, oh, who is it now? Oh, Fox News. I guess for the defamation, because I guess Fox News reported some of the behind-the-scenes details. So Fox News always getting sued by everybody over COVID, over illegal alien stuff, over Trump, over, you know, elections, over this, over that, over that. You know, so Fox getting sued and broiled in lawfare, etc.

[00:31:12] Anyway, I guess there's this new cyber threat now where they're going to start to attack airlines. Did you see this, doctor? Well, it sounds like more good news. Why don't you fill me in? So it's very strange. I guess it's a big old situation where they've got this ransomware, and the ransomware is being injected into airlines software.

[00:31:40] And they say it's a big, serious concern where airlines might be, you know, controlled by ransomware and forced to pay big old ransoms, and their systems and their data and everything else might be locked down. And they say it's a big, huge cyber threat right now. Well, is this something that, like, for example, if someone makes a reservation on an airline and they pay with their credit card and stuff like that, does it mean that they're, you know, violating some kind of privacy issue

[00:32:09] with, you know, your credit card information being spread around? Or does it mean that somebody knows that you're traveling and therefore they could rob your house better? I mean, what is entailed with it? Do you have any idea? Yeah. It's basically to infect the system. So let's take airline A. They'll basically infect and then, you know, create this ransomware, and they'll basically hold the data hostage on the airline saying, hey, you've got to pay us or else we're going to, you know, you'll never get access to your system because it's locked down and password protected.

[00:32:39] It's ransomware. So it doesn't affect you traveling per se in the sense that, you know, they're going to deal with robberies while you're gone. This is more of an airline. It's not an individual attack at this point, they claim. But your point's well taken that at some point, if they're going to do ransomware, they can literally do whatever they want to. They could target whatever avenue they choose once they lock your system down and control your data and you can't get it back without a password. You know, we've had historical relevance of many of these big, large corporations already paying ransoms.

[00:33:08] And I think they should never pay any of these ransoms because all they do is give the criminals more, you know, actionable take. When you pay a ransom, you enable them. So I don't think we should pay ransoms. But at the same time, these airlines are being attacked and what they'll do with that ransom data is yet to be seen. Right now, it's not focused on the individual, though. It's focused on the airline and the data the airlines have. In other words, they're attacking critical infrastructure is the point, right?

[00:33:37] Well, yeah. You know, to me, this issue, I think corporations have a fiduciary responsibility. They have a corporate survival responsibility. They need to take care of their business. And, you know, I'm not sure exactly where this thing's going, but I think back, I was in some meetings in the 1990s. I think of one in particular. I was with the then-sitting United States Senator Bob Bennett.

[00:34:08] For some of us that were involved in some of, you know, the concerns that might have come along with Y2K. And Bob Bennett, oh, man, he was on a roll. He was waving his arms. We're going to use this as we're going to attack this like we entered World War II. We're going to mobilize the country and it's going to be a government solution and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm sitting there thinking, no.

[00:34:35] Every organization has responsibility to fix their problems. And to say you're going to mobilize the country and you're going to take all of the, you know, the resources of the United States, all taxpayer dollars and everything else, we're going to throw it against the problem and we're going to end up fixing it, blah, blah, blah. And what really happened was industry fixed themselves. The government was completely powerless, impotent on this whole situation. There was no government solution for Y2K.

[00:35:04] And I think that what happened is industry recognized what was at stake within their own realm. And they said, we've got to fix this, guys. And they put teams together and they fixed it. And I think the airlines need to fix it. And it's like, you know, we've talked about how the FAA is an unconstitutional organization. And the airlines, the industry could have got together and says, okay, we're going to take care of the security of our personnel, our passengers, and so on and so forth.

[00:35:33] The TSA, a government agency that goes in there and papers, papers, script search, and everything else like that, we would have had a much more efficient, more effective, more secure system had it been left to private industry. And I'm absolutely convinced of that. And I think that the idea of air traffic control, ultimately, I know we've got a problem now. To say we're going to let them fix it this minute is really going to be a problem. We've got to extricate ourselves.

[00:36:01] And the system that's out there that's been under the government's control unconstitutionally for my entire life and beyond, we can't fix it this week. But I think as we look forward, I think they would far better, they would be far better at taking care of their business than leaving it in a government hat. I mean, look at what, we've got 30, 40-year-old equipment that we're trying to patch and work for the security of our air traffic.

[00:36:33] But if the industry had been in charge of it all along, they would have said, hey, we ain't going to let our airplanes fall out of the airspace. We're going to have a bad... And you know what I find interesting about this? You know what I find interesting about this, doctor? Whether it's hospitals or airlines or traffic control systems or whatever, why are all these things hooked up to the internet where hackers could get in and do these things? Why don't we have private networks? It takes a little bit more money for the connectivity for a lot of this.

[00:37:01] But why don't we have private networks that can deal with most of these issues? I don't understand why everything has to be connected and everything has to be supposedly public-facing in that sense. Why not have some of these systems just completely offline and completely protected? It seems to me like there's ways to do this, but it would cost a little bit of money, okay? Because using the internet's free and available and connectivity's all over. It would require a lot of dollars to connect some of these private networks.

[00:37:29] But look, these private networks can be built, can be privatized, and can be taken care of to where I think you could mitigate the risk significantly with that kind of investment over time. And you say, well, Sam, that's really expensive. Not as expensive as getting ransomware on your systems to where you're completely compromised and under the thumb of the thugs that want to hack into this stuff. I don't really get it. I don't understand why we connect all these systems. Hey, the voting machines are on the internet, the hospital,

[00:37:58] your systems relating to power, the grid, or water, or sewer systems, and all this kind of stuff. Why are all these things hooked to these internet, you know, publicly, you know, internet things in the first place? Why? There is a better way, doctor. Oh, I agree with you completely. I mean, putting a firewall up is not that difficult. And the issue comes down, sadly to say, in most cases, you can tie this back to government involvement.

[00:38:29] Well, why is all your medical stuff on the, you know, online? Well, it's because of Medicare and Medicaid. It's because the regulators that look at insurance and everything else, look, if insurance was taking care of the payments of their schedules through a private insurance between you and the physician and your insurer instead of a government agent always involved in everything like that. And I really believe that it really comes down to so many of these flaws that are built in

[00:38:58] or built in at the behest of some government tie-in. And absolutely, I mean, if some insurance company, and I, you know, won't mention any names, but let's say they're a big insurance company. Let's say they're doing business all across the nation. If they're responsible for taking care of their clients, both their, the people that are insuring and as well as the people they're financially sending money to, they're going to watch out for it. But there's all these intervention points

[00:39:27] that I believe the government has kind of co-opted and hijacked virtually every aspect of our lives. And it sounds like, wow, there's Bradley talking about big government again. But stop and think about it. If you go to the chiropractor and you're using Medicare as an insurance policy or Obamacare or whatever, the government has their fingers in it someplace. And you just can't do something like that and not have access

[00:39:56] for every stinking hacker that's out there in the world somehow getting involved and being able to intervene in a damaging way. They're calling this thing Scattered Spider, I guess is the group responsible for it. They claim it's backed by Russians. Oh, my. I don't know that I believe all that in terms of the Russians being the problem necessarily. I think we have plenty of problems at home. We don't need to always blame it on the Russians or the Chinese. But nevertheless, why would the Russians

[00:40:26] even have a prayer of getting access to some of these systems that ought to clearly be offline, private, protected, et cetera? Doesn't make any sense to me. No. And again, I think it can tie back in so many ways. Maybe not in every way. I mean, I'm not going to say every stinking thing that's wrong in the world has to go back to some government source. But honestly, there are many things that are going on. Hang tight. We've got a quick break. You're listening to Liberty Roundtable Live.

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[00:42:50] So purchase your delicious raw honey today at localhoneyman.com. All right, back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, Sam Bushman, Dr. Scott Bradley with you. Dr. McCullough's in the news. Did you see this one, Dr. Bradley? He says parasites are everywhere. Most people think parasites are in other countries or if you get it from another, look, there's plenty of parasites in America.

[00:43:19] The FCC's worried about it. Dr. McCullough's worried about it. Hopefully to reach RFKJR status to dig into this. But they say millions of Americans have parasites doing all kinds of damage to their bodies and they're not getting it from third world countries. They're getting it right here in the United States. This issue is huge. You know, like I say, I've been on the road and out back country to some degree, but you know, the fact that I may have, you know, not have all of the latest details on this thing, it does not surprise me

[00:43:48] that there are other causal effects for things that happen and we need to have some research done on them. I'm not so sure that the government is the nose-all, ends-all, bees-all and the FAA, not FAA, FDA, usually will screw it up whenever they touch anything, but I think we ought to listen to some of these people that are trying to be in touch with a holistic solution to our health.

[00:44:18] And I'm interested in what their answers are. I don't have all the answers, I just know this. A lot of times, for example, there's a cereal that just, they found metal in it just recently too and so, you know, our food supplies being attacked, doctor, I think our, you know, we're having parasites because I think that we've basically created these, I don't know what you want to call it, drugs that supposedly fight this stuff and then hey, the bugs become super bugs and eventually,

[00:44:49] you know, out live or I don't know what you want to call it. The drugs don't work on them anymore. I think we're creating a disaster in America based on the way we're going. Well, it's probably true but again, I think that sometimes we, we need to realize we live life, mortality has an end and I mean, I guess if we're all scared to death of our ending, we ought to be enjoying what we're doing in the middle. I mean, I, you know, sometimes

[00:45:18] owing to the awful we're all going to die puts us all in paralysis and I think some of this hopeless scenario that seems to be just center stage on the news if it, if it bleeds, it leads kind of stuff takes people and puts them in a hopeless state and we get idiots that are shooting at firefighters that they lured into and families have, you know, knifings with their spouse or whatever. I mean, people just, it's like, we're all going to die, we're all going to die and pretty soon

[00:45:48] everybody's lost hope. I think we ought to start looking for, you know, the goodness in life and how we can be uplifted and, you know, what we can do to enjoy the relationships we have and the blessings that we enjoy. We're in a pretty good place. I mean, the sun still shines and we still get water and our lawn turned green and all this kind of stuff and I guess, I guess, the only thing to the awful story, there are enough awful things

[00:46:18] without spending our lives just kind of buried in it. I don't know. That's kind of an initial thought. I think you're right about that but I think Dr. McCullough's warning is wise. I think the CDC's warning is wise on this and if we're getting parasites and there's easy ways to fight them and stop that, I think one of the biggest reasons that we end up with so much parasites in America is primarily because of sugar, primarily because our food doesn't have any nutrition in it, doctor. Well, that's probably true. I mean, did you see that thing out of Japan where they're using human feces as a steak replacement?

[00:46:50] I mean, they say, oh yeah, it's got about 60% protein and we can put flavor enhancers and colors in there, chemicals and it actually, you know, it might be a good source of protein. Did you see that out of Japan? I did not see that but they're off their rock. I mean, this stuff is just crazy the things that they're trying to do and why do we need to do it in the first place, doctor? Why? That's absurd. I mean, because we can, I mean, I look at some of the cars that are out nowadays and I think, you know,

[00:47:20] I used to be able to almost climb into an engine compartment and work on a small block Chevy and nowadays with all the computers and everything else like that and I'm not so sure, I mean, I'm not so sure we're that much better off. I have, I had a friend that had a 47 Chevy. I mean, it was a straight Chevy. It was a hunk of iron going down the road and he got like 28 miles to the gallon and I think, wow, a lot of the new cars don't do that good, you know? I don't know what happened but that engine worked,

[00:47:50] you know? And, well, what happened is, hold on, we got over, over-regulated to the point where nobody can function. I mean, you got to spend a ton of money on airbags and you got to spend a ton of money on, you know, the seatbelts and this and that and the, you know, all these different, you know, hey, you got to make it roll-proof and you got to do this and do all these things and pretty soon the expense just goes up and up and up and up and up on a vehicle to where, you know, the average vehicle that's brand new that's a, as you do an electric vehicle is around 60 grand right now.

[00:48:19] The average new vehicle that's a gas powered is around 47,000 right now and as far as I understand used cars are in the upper 30s and $30,000 range on the average now and stuff and man, they've just made it so expensive due to regulation and then they forced, you know, for years and years and years they've continued to up the ante, raise the bar, whatever you want to call it on these vehicles to where it's like, hmm, we've got to cheat. Volkswagen got caught cheating and stuff and other companies have got caught cheating because they cannot keep up with the standards promised and so they've got to cheat

[00:48:48] and lie to get there. We see the same thing with big diesel trucks, you know, they store all their waste and I guess a tank and then release it in the middle of the night and stuff like that to pretend it's not happening and we play all these dishonest games and hopefully Bobby Kennedy can get to the bottom of this whether it's our vehicles or whether it's our own food supply or whatever else. I think there are easy solutions to all this. Ivermectin now becomes really relevant if people are getting all these different, you know,

[00:49:18] parasites and all this different stuff. Hey, now we're back to the ivermectin discussions and to some of these simple things. There's ways to do this. We don't need to put everybody in a panic but we can say, hey, you need to eat a lot less sugar, a whole lot more nutritional foods. You need to go ahead and, you know, there's ways to easily, inexpensively, rid ourselves of a lot of these things and people would be a ton more healthy and so if Dr. McCullough is speaking out about this, I hope what he speaks of hits the RFKJR team quickly because that's an area that we could really

[00:49:48] make a difference in and I don't think we ought to be negative that there's no hope. I think we ought to be realistic about the difficulties we face, trust in God and then do the very best we can and if we're honest in all of our dealings and we're accountable before, you know, the people, I think that's where we get the greatest hope, Doctor. Well, the closer we eat our food to its, you know, to the earth, if you will, I think the better off we'll be. I mean, we have,

[00:50:18] we have the capability of having good nutrition but we keep making it out of crap. I mean, literally, that's what, I mean, flavor in, I mean, fillers and flavor enhancers and chemicals and binders and everything, I mean, you look at the nonsense, I'm sure your kids never grew up on this bizarre stuff they call breakfast food, you know, these colored sugared cereals and everything like that, I mean, there's no nutrition in them at all but here's the deal, I mean,

[00:50:48] I have a son that he literally dropped over out of college on this and fortunately he did but he had a health and nutrition class at the university level and the professor said that Apple Jacks was the most nutritionally dense food source there was and I said, Apple Jacks, yeah, it's a flavor enhancers and sugar and, you know, kind of basically, you know, they put together something that fills the belly

[00:51:18] and that's about it and it tastes good. That's bizarre stuff they're teaching at the universities and they got nutrition and food science professors that believe this bizarre nonsense and sometimes I say, how stupid are we as a people to start believing that stuff but we do and we keep buying it. I mean,, if you don't have God as your guide, in other words, if you don't look to God for solutions and answers and protection and everything else, you're gonna go off the rails. It's that simple. So we're looking

[00:51:47] to man-made whatever to try to, you know, we need to say, hey, the food that's closer to God, the way he made it, it's the way to go, you know, and there is a lot of hope in the world. What was that movie called, Zach? I just watched a movie called Greater about a football guy who was very, very good and sadly, he lost his life. I won't go into the details but you gotta watch the movie Greater. It's on Salem Media. You can check it out, SalemNow.com if you, you know, get involved in that but all I'm telling you is there's a lot of good hope in the world and a lot of people

[00:52:17] doing a lot of great things and people working hard and if you look to God for your food and just say the more, you know, the food comes from God without man-made manipulation, the better off you are from a food point of view when it comes to parasites. You know what? Thank heavens that God has made certain things possible for us to rid ourselves of those and we've got the knowledge through Dr. McCullough and hopefully RFK, JR and others to deal with this pandemic and people can feel better instantly. You don't need government to just crack down and go crazy. You just need a couple of simple guiding tools

[00:52:46] and before you know it, people are healthy again and when people are healthy again then they can stand up for their liberty much better. That's the takeaway from this discussion, Doctor. You know, one of your sponsors is the Honeyman and you know, honey is a miraculous food. I mean, you know, the miracle of that and I have an individual that I know, I mean, I used to work at the university a lot and he was a full professor in food science

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