Radio Show Hour 2 – 10/28/2024

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[00:00:27] Sam Bushman live on your radio.

[00:00:29] Hard-hitting news that I refuse to use, no doubt, continues now.

[00:00:32] This is the broadcast for October the 28th in the year of our Lord, 2024.

[00:00:37] This is Hour 202, the goal always to protect life, liberty, and property,

[00:00:40] promote God, family, and country using the supreme law of the land,

[00:00:43] the Constitution of the United States of America.

[00:00:45] We reject revolution.

[00:00:46] Unless it's the Jesus Revolution, then we're in because we follow the Prince of Peace

[00:00:50] using the checks and balances brilliantly put in place by the Founding Fathers.

[00:00:53] That's one of the peaceful restorative solutions we have at our fingertips.

[00:00:56] Low Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org with me.

[00:00:59] Welcome back to the broadcast, sir.

[00:01:02] With you, Sam. Thank you very much.

[00:01:04] All right.

[00:01:05] A couple of quick things before we get to your topics.

[00:01:08] One of them, I know you'll like this.

[00:01:09] There's an opinion written in Deseret News speaking truth to Nazi power,

[00:01:17] talking about the cost of free speech, saying it's very costly.

[00:01:22] Standing up for free speech can be costly.

[00:01:25] And I guess as far as I understand, they say this.

[00:01:32] October 27th is one of those days over 80 years ago now that remind us of that fact.

[00:01:40] Helmut Huebner gave his life speaking out against the Nazi regime.

[00:01:45] Great opinion piece.

[00:01:46] I rarely have anything good to say about the Deseret News,

[00:01:49] but in this case, they've led an opinion piece for all that's very good.

[00:01:52] Yesterday was the day to speak out about this.

[00:01:56] 82 years ago yesterday.

[00:01:58] Lowell.

[00:02:00] That's fantastic, Sam.

[00:02:02] It turns out that I took a class at BYU from a professor named Thomas.

[00:02:07] I think his name was Thomas Rogers, if I recall right.

[00:02:11] He wrote a script for a play focusing on the role of Huebner.

[00:02:19] And then it was later, you know, about 10 or 20 years later,

[00:02:22] there came a movie based on this whole story.

[00:02:27] I can't remember the name of the movie, but it is well worth watching.

[00:02:33] The story is well worth reading because you have this young man who wants to oppose the Nazi regime.

[00:02:42] And yet he's a member of a church that believes in upholding the laws of the land.

[00:02:49] Now, so the conflict comes because the laws of the land change such that they were unconstitutional laws.

[00:02:55] So what do you do?

[00:02:57] Right.

[00:02:57] And so he decided to stand with principle and it cost him his life.

[00:03:03] And very, it's a poignant story, Sam, and well worth reading or seeing.

[00:03:12] Yeah, the movie I think was called Truth and Conviction, right?

[00:03:15] Yeah, something like that.

[00:03:16] It seems to me like it had the word snowflake or lily white,

[00:03:21] or maybe that was the name of the girl in the story.

[00:03:24] I can't remember, but she had a code name.

[00:03:26] It was Rose, the White Rose.

[00:03:28] Oh, her name was the White Rose, I think.

[00:03:32] I think that was her code name.

[00:03:36] And she helped to distribute leaflets and pamphlets.

[00:03:40] And so she paid a high price as well, as did Huebner.

[00:03:44] Very interesting story, Sam.

[00:03:46] Yeah, it was called Truth and Conviction.

[00:03:48] The movie was built by Angel Studios.

[00:03:51] Some good friends of ours put that movie together, and good for them for doing it.

[00:03:55] Anyway, I wanted to bring that up.

[00:03:56] Also, Donald Trump appeared at Madison Square Garden Saturday night.

[00:04:00] It was a hit-it-out-of-the-park moment.

[00:04:03] 75,000 people showed up.

[00:04:05] The house was packed, only holds 20,000 people.

[00:04:08] Even the cops say there was 75,000 people there.

[00:04:11] I mean, that's a serious, bold move in the middle of a blue state like that.

[00:04:15] But he pulled it off to perfection.

[00:04:18] Do you want to respond to that, too, Lowell?

[00:04:21] Well, sure.

[00:04:23] That was fantastic, Sam, that he has such a huge following.

[00:04:27] It just demonstrates, again, how popular he is.

[00:04:34] All right.

[00:04:34] We're going to go ahead and try to call Lowell because it's not doing that well.

[00:04:39] Anyway, Truth and Conviction, the movie, they say, is coming summer 2025.

[00:04:44] So, as far as I understand, the movie's not out yet.

[00:04:47] Now, there might have been another movie created about it.

[00:04:49] I don't know.

[00:04:52] But I'm going to enter my email to hear about this thing because I want to know about this.

[00:04:57] Angel Studios doing a great job with this.

[00:05:01] So, I put in my email address, click accept that.

[00:05:06] All right.

[00:05:07] There you have it.

[00:05:10] Anyway, pretty interesting movie, to say the least.

[00:05:13] This movie, though, this movie's coming out, I guess, in 2025.

[00:05:18] So, there might have been another movie before created about this.

[00:05:21] But that's the detail there, Lowell.

[00:05:26] Sorry.

[00:05:26] We're glad to have you back.

[00:05:28] Yeah.

[00:05:29] Yeah.

[00:05:29] Thank you, Sam.

[00:05:29] I just wanted to mention this letter.

[00:05:31] It came from – it was a letter addressed to faithful American Catholics.

[00:05:37] You may have received it in your email, too.

[00:05:39] But it came from Archbishop Vignano.

[00:05:44] He posted an open letter to American Catholics on the eve of the election, basically saying, folks, we only have a choice between, you know, good and evil here.

[00:05:53] So, vote for Donald J. Trump.

[00:05:56] It's a great letter.

[00:05:57] And, you know, if it actually goes out to the thousands and hundreds of thousands of American Catholics, then maybe it will help to, you know, get these Christian voters out to vote.

[00:06:09] So, I hope that's the effect of it.

[00:06:13] Yeah, there you have it.

[00:06:14] All right.

[00:06:14] Anyway, I wanted to bring that up.

[00:06:16] It's kind of interesting, though.

[00:06:18] People are starting to pick sides in very bold ways.

[00:06:21] Donald Trump has the wind at his back for sure.

[00:06:24] And just so everybody knows, next Tuesday, a week from tomorrow, we will be having the Liberty Roundtable and team live coverage.

[00:06:32] We're calling it Election Roundtable.

[00:06:34] If you go to LibertyNewsRadio.com, you can download the press release on it.

[00:06:38] We're going to be 7 to midnight Eastern Time Live.

[00:06:43] So, that's 5 to 10 Mountain Time Live covering this debate.

[00:06:47] Lowell Nelson will be one of our commentators chiming in with information on this and more.

[00:06:52] So, be ready for that.

[00:06:54] Now, speaking of running up to an election, it seems like no issue should be more on the docket than peace versus war.

[00:07:04] I stand for peace.

[00:07:06] Ron Paul writes an epic column highlighting this very thing, Lowell.

[00:07:12] Right.

[00:07:13] His column last week, he wrote this, quote,

[00:07:37] So, he then explained what he meant when Ukraine called 9-1-1 last week.

[00:07:42] And Zelensky sought NATO membership immediately.

[00:07:46] NATO strikes against incoming Russian missiles and permission to use Western long-range missiles for strikes deep into Russia, including Moscow and St. Petersburg.

[00:07:58] Yikes.

[00:07:59] You know, why did he ask for so much?

[00:08:01] Well, Ron Paul then explains, quote, Ukraine is on the verge of losing its war with Russia and is desperate to draw the United States military into the fight.

[00:08:10] There were numerous opportunities to avoid this bloody war.

[00:08:14] But at every step, the Ukrainian leadership listened to Western neocons like Boris Johnson and decided to keep fighting Russia down to the last Ukrainian.

[00:08:25] End of quote.

[00:08:26] So, they called 9-1 basically, Sam.

[00:08:28] They want the U.S. to jump into the fight.

[00:08:31] And it's the same story with Israel.

[00:08:33] Ron Paul explains that.

[00:08:34] He says, quote,

[00:09:14] End of quote.

[00:09:17] But that's not enough for Israel.

[00:09:19] They want to drag the U.S. into the conflict.

[00:09:21] Quote,

[00:09:22] The stationing of one or perhaps two THAAD air defense systems, each with 100 U.S. troops to operate them, is part of that effort.

[00:09:32] These 100 to 200 U.S. troops are illegally engaged in combat.

[00:09:37] But what's worse is that they are being used as a tripwire.

[00:09:41] U.S. and Israeli leaders understand that they will be considered legitimate targets for any additional Iranian missile attack.

[00:09:50] But as soon as American troops start getting killed in Israel, there will be a massive push for further U.S. involvement.

[00:09:57] Imagine the mainstream media war propaganda if such a terrible thing happens.

[00:10:02] End of quote.

[00:10:03] Well, so, Sam, no way should the U.S. military be employed this way.

[00:10:08] And Ron Paul concludes his column, quote,

[00:10:26] That's what a pro-America foreign policy looks like.

[00:10:29] Our founders understood it very well and wrote about it often.

[00:10:33] It's called non-interventionism.

[00:10:36] And, Sam, this underscores one of the objectives of the five-fold mission of the Campaign for Liberty, which is...

[00:10:42] All right, hang tight.

[00:10:42] Skip the break.

[00:10:43] The five-fold mission of CampaignForLiberty.org starts now.

[00:10:48] Which is to promote and defend the great American principles of individual liberty, constitutional government, sound money, free markets, and a non-interventionist foreign policy.

[00:11:01] End of quote.

[00:11:01] That comes straight from the mission of Campaign for Liberty.

[00:11:04] I love that mission, and I especially love its fifth principle, which is a non-interventionist foreign policy.

[00:11:12] It's a humble foreign policy that Washington talked about, George Washington talked about, and that Ron Paul iterated during his campaign run for the presidency.

[00:11:21] So, Sam, that is the story from Ron Paul.

[00:11:24] I love his columns.

[00:11:25] I love talking about them because he wants to promote peace and prosperity.

[00:11:30] That's what he wants to do, Sam.

[00:11:33] Amen to that.

[00:11:34] I want to highlight a couple of the points that you made in this story because it's a big article from Ron Paul this time.

[00:11:39] I mean, it has a mouthful in it.

[00:11:41] Why should we fight wars for Ukraine and Israel?

[00:11:44] When you take a role of the world's policeman, don't be surprised when countries call 9-11 and want you to get involved, right?

[00:11:52] Washington's response to Israel trying to drag us into its war should be just like the Ukraine.

[00:11:59] You know what?

[00:11:59] We should say no more weapons, no more money.

[00:12:02] You're on your own.

[00:12:03] Make peace.

[00:12:05] Okay?

[00:12:06] Our founding fathers warned us about this.

[00:12:08] Anyway, peace underscores the primary objective in the five-fold mission of Campaign for Liberty.

[00:12:15] Anyway, I know you just said that, but I wanted to really reiterate that point because Andrew Napolitano really hammers home the same point.

[00:12:25] He really does, Sam, because he's talking about the Constitution, you know, the war powers in the Constitution.

[00:12:34] So he looked at U.S. military involvement in Ukraine and Israel, and he asks these important questions.

[00:12:40] Quote, can the president fight any war he wishes?

[00:12:44] Can Congress, are there constitutional and legal requirements that must first be met before war is waged?

[00:12:54] End of quote.

[00:12:55] Well, these are three important questions, and I think our audience, Sam, because of their knowledge and experience, they know how to answer these questions.

[00:13:04] But I'm just delighted that Judge Knapp is asking these questions, and his columns are getting out, and his podcasts are very popular.

[00:13:13] And so he answers these questions in this way.

[00:13:16] Quote, Congress cannot legally declare war on Russia or Iran,

[00:13:21] since there is no American militarily grounded reason for doing so.

[00:13:26] Russia and Iran pose no credible threats to American national security.

[00:13:32] The U.S. has no treaties with Ukraine or Israel that trigger an American military defense.

[00:13:38] But Congress spends money on those wars nevertheless.

[00:13:42] End of quote.

[00:13:43] So under the Constitution, Sam, me and I both know that only Congress can declare war, not the president, right?

[00:13:50] It's Congress.

[00:13:51] The last time Congress declared war was to initiate involvement in World War II.

[00:13:56] But Congress has delegated, unfortunately, has delegated limited authority to the president via the War Powers Resolution of 1973,

[00:14:05] even though Congress does not have the authority to do so, right?

[00:14:10] And so this is an important point, too.

[00:14:12] I mean, a lot of people in Congress will point to their war powers resolution, but that is an illegal resolution, right?

[00:14:21] Congress does not have the authority to delegate its war-making authority to anybody.

[00:14:28] The states did not give that authority to Congress.

[00:14:31] They would have said so in the Constitution.

[00:14:33] All they said was that Congress shall have power to declare war.

[00:14:38] And when you give that power to Congress, you are implicitly not giving it to the president.

[00:14:43] You are not giving it to the Supreme Court or to the judiciary.

[00:14:48] You know, wouldn't it be weird for the U.S. Supreme Court to declare war against Russia, for example?

[00:14:55] That is weird.

[00:14:56] And because the Congress, I'm sorry, the Constitution does not allow that.

[00:15:00] Well, similarly, it does not allow the president to declare war or to fund a war, an undeclared war.

[00:15:08] I mean, it's just weird that the executive has that, you know, purportedly has that power via the War Powers Resolution.

[00:15:16] It's just not right.

[00:15:18] And so Congress not only has not declared war on Iran, it has not authorized the use of American military forces against it.

[00:15:27] Yet it has given President Joe Biden a blank check and authorized him to spend it on military equipment for Israel, however he sees fit.

[00:15:36] And that's just plain unlawful, Sam.

[00:15:39] It's madness.

[00:15:40] Well, the Vietnam War began the very same way.

[00:15:43] No declaration of war, no authorization of use of military force, no clear military objective, a gradual buildup of troops in the country, and so on and so forth.

[00:15:53] But, you know, getting back to the Constitution, Judge Knapp says, quote, the War Powers Resolution, which requires presidential notification of Congress for the use of the American military force, is unconstitutional because it consists of Congress giving away to the president one of its core functions, declaring war, end of quote.

[00:16:15] And let's be clear, giving away without authority, though.

[00:16:18] They don't have the authority to give that power away.

[00:16:21] But you've got to really kind of think about the questions that Judge Napolitano asks, okay?

[00:16:26] They're really critical questions to understand.

[00:16:29] Can the president fight any war he wishes?

[00:16:31] Clear, resounding, absolutely not.

[00:16:35] Can Congress fund any war it chooses?

[00:16:37] No.

[00:16:39] Are there constitutional and legal requirements that must first be met before war is waged?

[00:16:45] Yes, indeed.

[00:16:46] And this is where, you know, a lot of people are losing faith in the Constitution and in the grand old experiment the Founding Fathers put together, feeling like, oh, man, it doesn't work anymore.

[00:16:54] What we don't understand or what we need to realize is that we're not following the blueprint.

[00:16:59] You don't follow the plan and it's not going to work.

[00:17:02] That's for sure, Lowell.

[00:17:04] And it's because we, the people, are not demanding of our members of Congress that they follow the Constitution.

[00:17:11] Number one, we don't understand it ourselves, speaking collectively, of most people.

[00:17:16] And then number two, we do not insist that our members of Congress follow the plan, the blueprint for liberty.

[00:17:23] That's on us, folks.

[00:17:24] We need to change.

[00:17:26] We need to understand this document.

[00:17:28] That's why we talk about it here on the show so much, so that we will confront our representatives in Congress, U.S. House of Representatives, our U.S. Senators.

[00:17:38] We need to insist that they back off of this.

[00:17:42] Don't fund these undeclared wars.

[00:17:45] Don't give the president money to do this.

[00:17:47] And don't let him, you know, wage war an undeclared war on some country like Iran or like Ukraine.

[00:17:54] That if we have enough people in Congress standing up and shouting this message, then the U.S. would not be involved militarily around the world, Sam.

[00:18:06] I'm sure of it.

[00:18:08] Well, there you have it.

[00:18:10] It's important to understand, folks.

[00:18:12] And you've got to understand and study the Constitution.

[00:18:15] And, you know, what we tend to do in modern day is we say, oh, we're in a crisis.

[00:18:20] After the crisis, we'll go ahead and, you know, move back to the Constitution.

[00:18:24] Understand the Constitution was written for crisis situations, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:18:28] You don't go back to the Constitution after the crisis is over.

[00:18:31] You use the Constitution to navigate the crisis, okay?

[00:18:35] That's why the five-fold mission, in my opinion, of Campaign for Liberty is so valuable, so critical.

[00:18:40] All right, the five-fold mission, promote and defend the great American principles of individual liberty, right?

[00:18:51] Individual liberty, that's fundamentally first and foremost.

[00:18:55] Constitutional government, sound money, right?

[00:19:01] Free markets and a non-interventionist foreign policy.

[00:19:05] And, man, it's interesting how tied together those five things really are.

[00:19:08] For example, if you're going to have sound money, hey, you wouldn't have all these interventionist policies.

[00:19:13] You just couldn't afford them, so you wouldn't do them if you had sound money, right?

[00:19:17] If you could promote individual liberty, you don't need to spend as much money as you're spending.

[00:19:23] Anyway, these five tie together very well, and we need to realize that, too.

[00:19:28] And when you violate one of them, you end up unintentionally, maybe, but violating the other four, too, Lowell.

[00:19:34] They're so intertwined.

[00:19:36] Yeah, absolutely right.

[00:19:37] And Ron Paul is the one who makes that connection more than any other candidate for president back in 2008 and also 2012.

[00:19:47] He said, look, if you want to get control of our budget, we have to stop spending money on these foreign interventionist wars

[00:19:56] and stop spending money on welfare.

[00:19:59] I mean, you can't control the budget if you don't stop spending money.

[00:20:06] Boy, did he ever bring that home.

[00:20:08] Amen.

[00:20:08] Now, here's another interesting parallel that people need to be aware of.

[00:20:11] You know, it's the Democrats that promote socialism policies.

[00:20:14] Hey, let's give out, you know, welfare and whatever to everybody.

[00:20:18] And let's OK.

[00:20:19] But it's the Republicans that are the ones that fund and fuel the war machine primarily.

[00:20:23] Right.

[00:20:23] That's right.

[00:20:24] Mm-hmm.

[00:20:25] That's right.

[00:20:26] And it works against us.

[00:20:28] Basically, it's a unit party.

[00:20:31] They're saying, look, you're Republicans, they're for warfare.

[00:20:34] The Democrats are for welfare.

[00:20:36] And together, you combine those two, and now you've got an out-of-control spending, a big,

[00:20:42] big problem.

[00:20:43] And that money is becoming worth less every single day.

[00:20:47] You know, the dollar is worth less today than it was yesterday, and it'll be worth less tomorrow

[00:20:52] than it is today.

[00:20:54] And so price inflation occurs.

[00:20:57] Prices go up.

[00:20:58] People wonder why that is.

[00:20:59] It's because of this 12-flegate spending, Sam, over and over again.

[00:21:04] How long will it take the American people to realize this, wake up, and demand that their members of Congress stop this madness?

[00:21:13] That's what needs to happen, Sam.

[00:21:15] Amen to that.

[00:21:16] Now, here's what's fascinating.

[00:21:17] We should be looking to the United States as a light on a hill for these peaceful solutions,

[00:21:23] for this constitutional, moral, high-ground understanding.

[00:21:27] But sadly, we can't look to the United States because we're so off the rails.

[00:21:31] Ron Paul, Judge Andrew Napolitano, Sam Bushman, Lowell Nelson, others pointing the way back to sanity, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:21:40] But we can look to a couple of other unlikely countries for guidance as well.

[00:21:46] Believe it or not, there's diplomacy going on.

[00:21:49] You just got to know where to look, Lowell.

[00:21:51] Oh, I love this piece from ronpaulinstitute.org, Sam.

[00:21:56] Don't need to spend a lot of time on it, but boy, is it worth mentioning.

[00:22:00] Quote, ahead of the BRICS summit in Russia, India and China announced an end to the four-year military standoff between the two countries along the line of actual control in eastern Ladakh.

[00:22:14] The Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping will have their first official bilateral meeting in five years.

[00:22:27] India and China have reached an agreement on patrolling arrangements along the LAC and the border areas.

[00:22:34] That's an area, by the way, I looked this up on the map last night, Sam.

[00:22:37] It's northwest of Nepal, basically north of India, and it's on the western end of China.

[00:22:44] Continuing the quote here, it says,

[00:22:46] This has led to a disengagement and resolution of the issues that had arisen in these areas in 2020.

[00:22:52] This breakthrough in the standoff between India and China was made possible by numerous rounds of discussions and dialogue

[00:23:00] between diplomatic and military negotiators of the two countries, end of quote.

[00:23:07] Well, you can catch the rest of this article at ronpawninstitute.org, Sam.

[00:23:11] But the fact that these two countries were able and willing to resolve that conflict diplomatically, I think, is absolutely notable.

[00:23:22] In fact, it's exemplary.

[00:23:23] It is.

[00:23:24] It's beyond notable and exemplary.

[00:23:26] And let me make the point.

[00:23:27] Donald Trump has said, I'll sit down with these people.

[00:23:29] I'll sit down with anybody.

[00:23:30] This person and that person is a nice person.

[00:23:33] We don't agree with them.

[00:23:34] We don't have to capitulate to them.

[00:23:35] But let's realize they're worth sitting down with.

[00:23:38] And then they mock anybody who wants to sit down with somebody as if, oh, my gosh, sitting down, you're weak.

[00:23:43] You're feckless.

[00:23:44] You can't get it done.

[00:23:55] Absolutely right.

[00:23:56] And Ukraine, you know, Russia was willing to settle up with Ukraine.

[00:24:02] But Boris Johnson stepped in and said, no, we've got to keep fighting them.

[00:24:06] And, you know, there's so much peace that could break out if these leaders would be willing to do that, Sam.

[00:24:15] Didn't Tucker Carlson sit down with the leader of Russia and put together a very interesting narrative of, hey, the Russian president was saying we can have peace here?

[00:24:23] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:24:25] Kamala and Joe saying no, right?

[00:24:27] What on earth is happening, folks?

[00:24:29] There are lessons.

[00:24:31] All right.

[00:24:32] There is a lesson for the West, India and China setting a great example for what we should be the light on a hill, people.

[00:24:39] We should be the ones advocating for peaceful solutions, right?

[00:24:44] Hang tight.

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[00:26:08] In a key election over the weekend, the BBC's Shaima Khalil in Tokyo says really comes as no surprise.

[00:26:14] The LDP are desperate to recalibrate.

[00:26:16] They are desperate to reinvent their image and convince the public that they are changed.

[00:26:21] But from what I've heard, people are furious.

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[00:26:38] And I cannot overstate how unusual it is that the LDP finds itself in this unpredictable position and a tight race.

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[00:27:27] The distributor, wholesaler and retailer of British artisanal cheese said that the high value of the cheeses made them a tasty target for the thieves.

[00:27:37] Detectives at Scotland Yard and international authorities are searching for the culprits.

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[00:27:50] Onion slivers from one supplier now thought to be the culprit.

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[00:29:59] From atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:30:26] Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:30:27] Glad you are with us.

[00:30:29] This is Lowell Nelson, riding shotgun this morning with Sam Bushman, your host here on Liberty Roundtable Live.

[00:30:35] We've been talking about the importance of a non-interventionist foreign policy around the world and the fact that this bit of good news that India and China have declared a truce along the border between them.

[00:30:52] They're in the area of Ladakh.

[00:30:55] That's north-west there of Nepal.

[00:30:59] Great, great news there.

[00:31:00] Setting the example.

[00:31:01] Shining a light of peace and prosperity there for the rest of the countries of the world.

[00:31:07] But I want to talk about the bombing in Gaza.

[00:31:11] A representative of John Duncan wrote a column that was posted at ronpaulinstitute.org last week.

[00:31:17] He wrote that on October 3rd, that was just three weeks ago, 99 American health care workers in Gaza released an open letter to the White House pleading for an end to Israel's bombing of little children.

[00:31:34] Quote, the letter was sent by American physicians, surgeons, nurse practitioners, and nurses who had volunteered a combined of five years to treat the besieged people of Palestine.

[00:31:46] The letter said, every day that we continue supplying weapons and munitions to Israel is another day that women are shredding our bombs and children are murdered with our bullets.

[00:31:59] President Biden and Vice President Harris, we urge you, end this madness now.

[00:32:06] The letter writers also said that every one of us who worked in an emergency, intensive care, or surgical setting treated preteen children who were shot in the head or chest.

[00:32:21] It is impossible that such widespread shooting of young children throughout Gaza sustained over the course of an entire year is accidental or unknown to the highest Israeli civilians and military authorities.

[00:32:37] End of quote.

[00:32:38] And, Sam, I would add this.

[00:32:40] This is not unknown to the highest U.S. civilians and military authorities either.

[00:32:45] And their continuing to pursue this genocide monetarily and verbally is truly deplorable.

[00:32:52] Well, that's why this headline from John Duncan makes so much sense when you say this is not unknown.

[00:32:58] This is the proof.

[00:32:59] The headline, American health care workers plead to end to Gaza bombing.

[00:33:08] They know the health care workers are there.

[00:33:10] They're on the ground.

[00:33:11] Many of them go volunteer and then get a rude awakening when they get there, right?

[00:33:15] Exactly right.

[00:33:16] And the Israeli, you know, Israel does not allow many journalists into that area.

[00:33:25] And it's only these health care workers who have actually just voluntarily gone over there to help in Gaza that they're the ones who are actually reporting this problem,

[00:33:37] this problem where children are being executed, you know, military execution style with a bullet to the head.

[00:33:46] And these are youngsters, five-year-olds or sometimes babies.

[00:33:50] And so the authors of this letter, they estimate that more people have died from starvation and disease now than from bombs and bullets.

[00:33:59] So not only is the Israeli Defense Force killing young children, but they've broken down the infrastructure so badly now that people,

[00:34:12] more people are dying from disease and starvation than from the bullets and the bombs.

[00:34:18] And so it's just horrific, Sam.

[00:34:23] These health care workers say, I've never seen such horrific injuries on such a massive scale with so few resources.

[00:34:33] Our bombs are cutting down women and children by the thousands.

[00:34:36] Their mutilated bodies are a monument to cruelty, end of quote.

[00:34:41] So not only did John Duncan write this article, but he linked to an essay in the opinion section of the New York Times dated October 18th of 2024.

[00:34:56] That was just 10 days ago.

[00:34:58] And so I have to applaud the New York Times for allowing this opinion piece to be published.

[00:35:04] It was written by a fellow named Rose Sidhuat.

[00:35:09] Well, I'm butchering his name, of course.

[00:35:12] Well, I'll call him Dr. Sidhuat.

[00:35:13] He's a trauma and general surgeon who worked at the European Hospital in Gaza for two weeks in March and April of this year.

[00:35:22] Okay.

[00:35:23] He was there for just two weeks.

[00:35:26] But he says, well, he writes in this opinion piece found in the New York Times, quote,

[00:35:32] I've seen violence and I've worked in conflict zones.

[00:35:37] But of the many things that stood out about working in a hospital in Gaza, one got to me.

[00:35:42] Nearly every day I was there, I saw a new young child who had been shot in the head or in the chest,

[00:35:48] virtually all of whom went on to die, 13 in total.

[00:35:52] So he was there 14 days and he saw 13 kids who were killed.

[00:35:57] All right.

[00:35:58] And at the time, he figured this was the work of some sadistic soldier and was not the norm.

[00:36:05] But he later discovered, after talking with a physician who worked in a hospital in Gaza a couple months earlier,

[00:36:11] that child execution was a norm, that it was occurring every single day.

[00:36:16] And so this Dr. Sidhuas, Sam, he got in touch with other volunteer health care workers who had served in Gaza since the October 7,

[00:36:25] 2023 attack by Hamas on Israel.

[00:36:28] Right.

[00:36:29] And he spoke with 65 of them.

[00:36:32] 57 of that 65 agreed and were willing to share their experiences on the record,

[00:36:39] meaning that they gave their names along with their testimony.

[00:36:44] And it is heartbreaking, Sam, to read what they wrote.

[00:36:49] But I will give you a small taste.

[00:36:54] So regarding 13 children who had been shot in the head or the chest in Gaza,

[00:36:58] Dr. Mark Parameter, an orthopedic and hand surgeon 69 years old from Rocky Mount, North Carolina, said,

[00:37:06] quote, I saw several children shot with high-velocity bullet wounds in both the head and the chest.

[00:37:12] Dr. Galeria, plastic and reconstructive surgeon 48 years from Virginia, said,

[00:37:18] our team cared for about four or five children ages five to eight years old that were all shot with single shots to the head.

[00:37:29] They all presented to the emergency room at the same time, and they all died.

[00:37:35] A doctor, Farrah, 42-year-old anesthesiologist from Toledo, Ohio, said,

[00:37:39] I saw many children in my experience the gunshot wound was often to the head.

[00:37:45] Many had almost a daily occurrence to have children arrive at the hospital with gunshot wounds to the head.

[00:37:54] End of quote.

[00:37:55] So, and this is just a small sample, Sam.

[00:37:58] I only took three quotes from maybe a dozen quotes from this article regarding children who had been shot in the head.

[00:38:07] Now, regarding malnutrition in Gaza, again, 10 to 15 quotes, and I've chosen three.

[00:38:13] This Dr. Farrah, a 42-year-old anesthesiologist from Toledo O'Hara, said, quote,

[00:38:19] Malnutrition was widespread.

[00:38:21] It was common to see patients reminiscent of Nazi concentration camps with skeletal features.

[00:38:28] Dr. Maloff from Charleston, South Carolina, said,

[00:38:33] All of my patients were suffering from malnutrition 100%.

[00:38:38] Dr. Odeh from Austin, Texas, said,

[00:38:41] Mothers on the maternity ward delivered prematurely because of malnutrition, stress, and infection.

[00:38:49] Milk production was poor due to lack of hydration and adequate food supply.

[00:38:54] Now, regarding the psychiatric distress of young children in Gaza, again, I've picked three more from maybe a dozen quotes from these health care workers.

[00:39:05] From a Dr. Hassan, 39-year-old doctor, quote,

[00:39:10] One child who had lost all of his family wished he had been killed, too, saying,

[00:39:15] Everyone I love is in heaven.

[00:39:19] I don't want to be here anymore.

[00:39:23] From a Dr. Muhammad, 33-year-old doctor from Dallas, Texas, said,

[00:39:29] I saw children who had witnessed many family members be killed in front of them.

[00:39:34] They all expressed their wish to be dead and to join their families.

[00:39:39] The 16-year-old doctor from North Carolina said,

[00:39:42] Many said that they wished the next month would just hit them to put an end to their torture.

[00:39:50] Okay, so regarding the babies in Gaza,

[00:39:53] Pediatric doctor, 38-year-old doctor from Loma Linda, California, said,

[00:39:59] Quote, starved mothers would report to the ICU begging for formula to feed the newborn children.

[00:40:05] Newborn babies only a few hours or days old would present to the hospital severely dehydrated, infected, and hypothermic.

[00:40:14] And here's the question I have, Lowell.

[00:40:17] Why aren't we knowledgeable about this in the United States, number one?

[00:40:23] And why are we promoting weapons and war and funding and training and arming and all this stuff?

[00:40:30] Why don't we provide relief?

[00:40:33] Go ahead and skip the break.

[00:40:34] Why don't we provide relief for these people and make this commonly known?

[00:40:38] The American people have big hearts, my friend.

[00:40:41] Well, I say they do, Sam, and it's just hard for me to get through this,

[00:40:45] but I applaud the New York Times for putting this on their opinion page because that's a start.

[00:40:51] You know, I think the youth in this country understood this long before this article came out in the New York Times

[00:40:59] because they had been demonstrating on campuses for months to end the genocide in Gaza.

[00:41:05] And yet we continue to feed bombs and munitions to Israel.

[00:41:10] In fact, when the prime minister of Israel came over to speak to Congress, he got, what, 56 standing ovations from our Congress?

[00:41:20] Basically, we're in the tank with him there.

[00:41:23] And so with that encouragement, he goes back and continues to pursue this genocide in Gaza.

[00:41:30] It just boggles my mind, Sam, that we, knowing what we know, are continuing to support this thing.

[00:41:38] Now, by the way, I'll skip the rest of these testimonials, another 10 to 12 of them,

[00:41:44] and get to the bottom line of this article because Dr. Sidua concludes his article.

[00:41:49] He says, quote,

[00:41:51] American law and policy have long forbidden the transfer of weapons to nations and military units engaged in gross violations of human rights,

[00:42:00] especially when those violations are directed at children.

[00:42:04] It is difficult to conceive of more severe violations of this standard than young children regularly being shot in the head,

[00:42:12] newborns and their mothers starving because of blocked food and demolished water infrastructure,

[00:42:17] and a health care system that has been destroyed.

[00:42:20] For the past 12 months, it has been well within our government's power to stop the flow of U.S. military aid to Israel.

[00:42:28] Instead, we fueled the fire at almost every opportunity,

[00:42:32] shipping over 50,000 tons of military equipment, ammunition, and weaponry since the start of the war,

[00:42:38] according to a late August update from the Israeli Defense Ministry.

[00:42:42] This amounts to an average of more than 10 transport planes and two cargo ships of arms per week, end of quote.

[00:42:51] And so, Sam, he went on to mention in his article here, again, published in the New York Times opinion page,

[00:42:57] that there are eight U.S. senators and 88 U.S. representatives who have written formal letter to the Biden administration in protest.

[00:43:07] Well, we just need more pressure applied to the members of Congress, more letters, more phone calls, more frank talks face-to-face in this, the election season.

[00:43:17] Now is one day of feign listening to us, folks.

[00:43:19] So speak up and speak out.

[00:43:22] Withhold your vote from any public servant who refuses to help stop this regime from feeding the beast.

[00:43:28] I'm talking about the U.S. regime from feeding the beast in Israel.

[00:43:32] And, Law, we can be polite to our representatives.

[00:43:35] We need to be polite.

[00:43:35] But we need to be very direct, very clear, and very stern.

[00:43:39] You know what?

[00:43:40] If you continue to violate the Constitution, if you continue to pretend it's presidential responsibility and they're doing it, not you,

[00:43:50] if you continue to fund and vote for funding of this stuff, or if you don't actively oppose this publicly with votes,

[00:43:58] oppose funding, then you know what?

[00:44:01] We're going to consider you part of the problem, or we're going to replace you with somebody who will stand up for peace.

[00:44:07] Okay?

[00:44:08] We don't need to be belligerent and crazy, but we do need to be bold and stern and clear.

[00:44:12] We will not tolerate this for those who represent us, Law.

[00:44:18] Absolutely right, Sam.

[00:44:19] And I cannot help but think, Sam, that our parents in heaven must weep for the lives that are being lost in these conflicts around the world, Sam.

[00:44:36] It just breaks my heart.

[00:44:39] Well, with good reason.

[00:44:41] It is a tragedy, ladies and gentlemen, and that's why I say I don't know why the American people don't really know about this,

[00:44:45] unless you read this incredible document by this Dr. Sidwa in the New York Times.

[00:44:52] Unless you see this, you don't really realize that 65-plus doctors are speaking out.

[00:44:57] Unless you read this other article from Rep. John Duncan,

[00:45:01] you don't really realize that American health care workers are pleading for an end to Gaza bombing, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:45:09] Okay?

[00:45:10] Now, that doesn't mean we're picking the side of Israel either.

[00:45:12] We want Gaza to not be bombed.

[00:45:14] We want Israel to not be bombed.

[00:45:16] We want peace, and we believe we can sit down at the table diplomatically and resolve these things.

[00:45:20] We really do.

[00:45:21] But not if our leaders won't do it.

[00:45:23] And that is the fundamental problem.

[00:45:25] It can be done.

[00:45:27] It should be done.

[00:45:28] We need a prayer.

[00:45:30] Lol is what we need.

[00:45:32] And so we turn to the war prayer, which is a short story written by Mark Twain,

[00:45:37] whose real name was Samuel Longhorn Clemens.

[00:45:40] Longhorn Clemens.

[00:45:41] And he wrote this in 1905, Sam.

[00:45:45] And basically, it's an anti-war parable that satirizes the prayers of Americans during wartime.

[00:45:51] It tells the story of a patriotic church service who estranged or enters and warns the congregation that their prayers for victory are also prayers for the destruction of human life.

[00:46:02] Now, I know we've discussed the war prayer on this show at least one other time, Sam, but given the Holocaust in Gaza, I think it bears repeating.

[00:46:09] Now, because we don't have enough time to cover the holster, I mean, it's kind of start in the middle and recite about two or three minutes of it.

[00:46:17] But basically, the gist of the minister's prayer is that an ever-merciful God of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers, give them aid, comfort, encourage them in their patriotic work, bless them, shield them in the day of battle, their hour of peril.

[00:46:36] Bear them in his mighty hand.

[00:46:38] Make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset.

[00:46:41] Help them crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory.

[00:46:48] Well, while the minister was speaking this prayer and the congregation was shouting its amens and hallelujahs along, you know, with the prayer, an aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle.

[00:47:02] His eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale.

[00:47:15] With all eyes following him and wondering, he made his silent way without pausing.

[00:47:21] He ascended to the preacher's side, stood there waiting.

[00:47:23] With shut lids, the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued his moving prayer and at last finished it with the words uttered in fervent appeal, bless our arms, grant us victory, O Lord our God, Father and protector of our land and flag.

[00:47:39] The stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside, which the startled minister did, and the stranger took his place.

[00:47:47] During some moments, he surveyed the spellbound audience of solemn eyes, in which burned an uncanny light.

[00:47:54] And then in a deep voice, he said, I come from the throne, bearing a message from Almighty God.

[00:48:01] The word smote the house with a shock.

[00:48:04] If a stranger perceived it, he gave no attention.

[00:48:06] He has heard the prayer of his servant, your shepherd, and will grant it, if such be your desire, after I, his messenger, shall have explained to you its import.

[00:48:17] That is to say, its full import.

[00:48:20] For it is like unto many the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of.

[00:48:27] Except he pause and think.

[00:48:29] God's servant and yours has prayed his prayer.

[00:48:32] Has he paused and taken thought?

[00:48:35] Is it one prayer?

[00:48:36] No, it is two.

[00:48:38] One uttered and the other not.

[00:48:40] Both have reached the ear of him who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken.

[00:48:46] One, ponder this.

[00:48:47] Keep it in mind.

[00:48:49] If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware, beware, lest with intent you invoke a curse upon your neighbor at the same time.

[00:48:57] If you pray for the blessing of rain on your crop, which needs it, and by that act you are possibly praying for a curse on some neighbor's crop, which may not need rain and can be injured by it.

[00:49:09] And so the stranger here is continuing.

[00:49:11] He says,

[00:49:12] You have heard your servant's prayer, the other part of it, the part that you heard.

[00:49:16] I am commissioned by God to put into words the other part of it, the part which the pastor fervently prayed silently and ignorantly and unthinkingly, perhaps.

[00:49:28] God grant that it was so.

[00:49:29] You heard the words, grant us the victory, O Lord our God.

[00:49:33] Okay?

[00:49:34] The whole of the other prayer is compact into those pregnant words.

[00:49:39] Elaborations are not necessary.

[00:49:40] When you have prayed for victory, you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory and must follow it.

[00:49:47] It cannot help but follow it.

[00:49:49] Upon the listening spirit of God fell also the unspoken part of the prayer.

[00:49:56] This is the unspoken part of the prayer.

[00:49:59] Lord, our fathers, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth into battle.

[00:50:05] Be thou near them.

[00:50:06] With them in spirit, we also go forth from the sweet place of our beloved firesides to smite the foe.

[00:50:13] O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells.

[00:50:19] Help us to cover their smiling field with the pale forms of their patriot dead.

[00:50:25] Help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, riding in pain.

[00:50:32] Help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire.

[00:50:38] Help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief.

[00:50:44] Help us to turn them out, ruthless with their little children, to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated lands in rags and hunger and thirst.

[00:50:56] Sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter.

[00:51:01] Broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it.

[00:51:09] For our sakes, who adore thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet.

[00:51:28] We ask it in the spirit of love, of him who is the source of love, and who is the ever faithful refuge and friend of all, of that our sore beset and seek his aid with humble and contrite hearts.

[00:51:41] Amen.

[00:51:43] And thus ended the prayer of a stranger, Sam, and thus ended this parable from Mark Twain.

[00:51:49] And I just have to believe that many, many, many, many people are praying ignorantly in these current conflicts today.

[00:52:01] You know, in Ukraine and Israel, we just ignorantly pray for victory there without realizing the damage that it's doing to our fellow children of God who live in Gaza and who live in Ukraine.

[00:52:18] Sam?

[00:52:19] Bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, we don't want to pray that we're successful and the other guy is dead and harmed and abused.

[00:52:26] What we want to do is pray for peace all around.

[00:52:28] Pray for the calmer hearts.

[00:52:29] Pray for people to understand the truth of civil dialogue, sitting down at the table of diplomatic resolution, of working together in peaceful ways.

[00:52:39] And you know what?

[00:52:41] If we have to defend ourselves, that's one thing.

[00:52:43] But oftentimes we march for, you know, devils to destroy kind of a thing.

[00:52:49] And what we need to do is step back and say, listen, if we must defend ourselves, we will.

[00:52:54] But we will also advocate for peace at every opportunity.

[00:52:58] And I think if we do that, we could be on the moral high ground.

[00:53:01] Otherwise, we know not what we do is the problem, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:53:05] And this parabolistic story really highlights the point in a very poignant way in my mind.

[00:53:13] You know what?

[00:53:13] What are we doing?

[00:53:14] Are we really advocating for peace?

[00:53:16] Are we pretending we're advocating for peace and promoting war and destruction in the wake of our ignorance?

[00:53:22] And I pray that we could truly stand for peace.

[00:53:25] You know, when Tucker Carlson sat down with the Russian president, I'm not telling you the Russian president is the best guy on the planet, but I'm telling you, there's a opportunity to have peace if you can sit down and talk.

[00:53:37] And Tucker Carlson proved it.

[00:53:40] And so let's not think us weak when we sit down and try to peacefully resolve conflict.

[00:53:44] Let's think of us as heroes and those who really, truly treasure peace.

[00:53:51] Lowell, final words of yours.

[00:53:53] And just like India and China, they set the example after four years of conflict, they sat down and they diplomatically resolved their differences.

[00:54:04] They did it through numerous discussions, numerous negotiations.

[00:54:08] It can be done with Israel and it can be done with Russia.

[00:54:12] Let's get her done, fam.

[00:54:13] Thank you.

[00:54:14] And it starts with the United States understanding who we are and that we follow the Prince of Peace.

[00:54:19] That's the uniqueness of the American ideal.

[00:54:22] We need to be a light on a hill, ladies and gentlemen, and it starts with people who have sound understanding and then have faith over fear, trusting in their God, not government for solutions.

[00:54:33] For Lowell Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org.

[00:54:35] And yours truly, truly loving liberty.

[00:54:37] Spread the word, share the love, and God save the Republic of the United States of America.