[00:00:04] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Ladies and gentlemen, Fox News, Maria Bartiromo is in the news for big reasons. Now, Trump likes her and has been promoting her and talking about her.
[00:00:30] And there's a big battle between her and Fox now, of course, as you know, Fox let her go. And there's a lot of discussion about this that's bringing a lot of controversy to the table. And it's interesting, the mainstream press has kind of done the Fox backing hook, line, and sinker. Oh, Maria got fired, says a Fox News representative, quote, off the record. Fox just says, hey, we let her go. We wish her well, and we're not going to talk about it. But you know what?
[00:00:58] There's a lot of mystery around Maria Bartiromo and her sudden disappearance from Fox. And World Net Daily and others have an incredible article on the other side of the story for this thing, which is there's conflicting accounts whether she was actually, quote, fired. And there's going claims highlighting her attempt to cover Donald Trump's 2020 election and other issues.
[00:01:26] It's a long story, but she basically wanted to cover some issues. And Fox shut her down. So she sent a little bit of information, and then it went up the tree. And then Fox got mad and got rid of her. It's about Trump's election integrity speech. It's about the July 16th address that President Trump gave regarding the election speech. She wanted to cover it.
[00:01:54] She also wanted to have senior counsel Peter Navarro on. And Fox basically says, no, we're not going to let you do that. She basically then, you know, sent that to Peter. Peter put it up the chain, and then Fox got really angry about it, et cetera. And the bottom line is, you know, there's issues about China. Kurt, you want to finish this topic? There's a lot here. Well, you're right.
[00:02:17] And, you know, there's several, at least some of the info that I've got, Sam, is coming from the Washington Times piece written by Peter Navarro, which is, you know, basically a big shot at the White House. And, you know, what he calls in his article, he calls, he says that Miss Bartiromo got the Fox golden muzzle,
[00:02:46] which is basically they're going to pay her for the remainder of her contract. But when she agreed to that, then she can't be on any other, basically any other news place, you know, that kind of thing. I guess she's been getting it for $8 million a year. But one of the other key things that he brings up that I think is key is, you know,
[00:03:16] you've got the standard person out there, the standard, I guess you could say, media person that's absorbing the media. In other words, citizen in America thinks that, hey, you've got your CNN and your guys on that side, MSNBC or whatever they call it. And then you've got Fox. And he says, that's not true.
[00:03:42] And this is exactly his point, that Fox will not do the most of the MAGA issues, but they will do certain ones. And so they trick people. And so that to me is a key to this article or this issue with the Maria Bartiromo thing.
[00:04:03] You mentioned the part about the doc that he or that she sent some text message or whatever, you know, issuing this demand from Fox that the president couldn't talk about any election issues and or Peter Navarro couldn't. You know, they don't want to touch that stuff. But, you know, they should at least. Well, and they don't want to partly because they got sued for a bunch of money over it and everything else.
[00:04:32] So it's a little more complicated than that. But now some are saying Maria might become the press secretary taking Caroline Levitt's place. Time will tell if that's the case. Others are saying, no, it's probably Scott Jennings that will be doing that. CNN consultant Scott Jennings. Scott's a pretty good guy. He's with Salem. He does a good job. He kind of spanks them left and right quite a bit. He does pretty good. So I don't know if it'll be Scott Jennings, Maria Bartiromo or anybody else. But, Kurt, this brings us back to the Chuck Harder days where we learned about the Velvet Hammer too, right?
[00:05:02] Yep. You're exactly right, Sam. You know, they call it the golden muzzle, but the Velvet Hammer's the, you know. Same thing. That's how it works. Which is, you know what? We love you. You're a rock star. You'll continue to get raises. You're doing awesome. As long as you toe the line and don't talk about that. It's not healthy to talk about that. And we're not going to talk about that. And that's kind of the bottom line of what has happened. Without further ado, let's bring Heath Perkins onto the mix with us. Welcome, sir.
[00:05:32] Good morning, gents. How are we doing today? We're doing great. Thanks for your understanding and thanks for joining us. So where do we go with this Maria Bartiromo thing? Free speech is really the bottom line here. And they basically shut her down. They did that to Glenn Beck. They did that to Lou Dobbs. They've done that to, you know, Tucker Carlson. Now Maria Bartiromo. I don't know why Tucker and Maria and all these people that have made a lot of money per year,
[00:05:59] why they don't just put together their own network and laugh at those folks and take all their listeners and viewers. It would be pretty easy to do. All you've got to do is, well, Lou Dobbs isn't around anymore. But you could put, you know, Glenn Beck, Maria Bartiromo, Tucker Carlson. You could put a bang-up network together and just mock those people until the cows come home. And I'm telling you, they'd take away all the news from everybody. They really would if they did it right, Heath. I agree.
[00:06:24] Yeah, talk radio has always been a very conservative, dominated area. So you get a few of those powerhouses that are connecting with the younger generation as well as the older generation. And you can't really stop, you know, the views. You can't stop the changing of who they go to for their information. So, yeah, it would be a great option to kind of throw a wrench into things.
[00:06:54] Yeah, you might even have to toss a Joe Rogan or two in there. He's one of the biggest podcasters too. You know, you could put together an incredible lineup. You'd add Sam Bushman and Kirk Crosby and, you know, Keith or Heath Perkins to it and everything else. We could do a bang-up job if you put a bunch of us in the right place. An incredible 24-7 TV lineup with a, you know, you could do the Blue and Red channel even. Back in the day, that's what we used to do and stuff. So there's a lot that could go on there. All right, it's time for the Honest Money Report. Where's gold sitting, Heath?
[00:07:23] Gold has come down a little bit this morning. Silver as well. You're sitting at $4,369.60 on gold. And 60 cents, okay. Yeah. And silver is sitting at $64.68. Six, four, what? 68? Yep, correct. All right. There you have it. What do you say to that? Kurt? Gold and silver coming down a little bit?
[00:07:50] Well, and what, at least if you really want to translate it, Heath, you know, so that means a $50 gold coin. Is that right? $50 gold coin. So it says United States Mint and it says $50 gold coin is now worth nearly 4,000 what? $4,369. $4,369. And that's the spot price.
[00:08:30] $4,369. Very good. It's like a 16 to 1 ratio. And so usually you think of a $20 gold piece as an ounce and you think of a dollar silver piece as an ounce. And that was generally the idea. Then it went up and got kind of manipulated and then they pegged gold at $35 an ounce for a while. And then it went to $50. So that's kind of the historical reality, right?
[00:09:00] Heath, is that right? Yeah. The $50 is more just what they have to put. They have to put a denomination on their gold piece. So every nation has to put a denomination. Some put $50, some put $100, some put, you know, some weird numbers. Yeah, but gold used to be pegged at $35 an ounce though. So it's hard to call it a $50 though. Sure. Yep. It was pegged right after they confiscated it here in the U.S. in 1933.
[00:09:28] They changed the price of that $20 gold piece to $35 in value and then they doubled the money supply. So they dumped twice the amount of dollars on the market right after they confiscated all the gold. So yes, there was a $50 gold piece that was announced. Kurt's 100% right. All I'm trying to tell you is that's already after debating and manipulating or debasing and manipulating the currency though, right? Yes. Yep.
[00:09:55] So if I come in, if I want a $4,000 coin from the U.S. government today, does it say, you know, a 2026 one? Because they print, they mint them now. Yes. That's right. Does it say $50 or does it say $20 on it? It says $50. Currently it says $50. Back in the 30s it said $20. So you're right. Okay. And I'm telling you that's all true. You're right 100%, Kurt.
[00:10:24] But I'm telling you in that alone is a fraud though. It debased the currency from 20 or at least, you know, 20 whatever because it was slightly less than an ounce back in those days. But really pegged at 35 to now 50. So they've changed the game even though that's the current denomination. Now they're saying there's a 50 to 1 ratio. If you put a silver and put a dollar on the silver one ounce round and you put a 50 on the 51 ounce round, now you're saying there's a 50 to 1 ratio. Let's go ahead and skip the break. This is too good. What do you say to that?
[00:10:54] Because my point is it doesn't represent the truth on currency exactly right really even when they do this now, although that's factual. It's true. It doesn't represent the currency. It's the stepping away from gold and silver has been the nation's easiest, you know, pot being boiled underneath us kind of a scenario where it took decades.
[00:11:21] But we're at the point now where people are finally starting to look at it because it's becoming more of a problem. Like we're realizing the pot is boiling. Our currency isn't worth much of anything. I've got a $10 bill that's worth $10. But in 1933, you could have bought a $10 gold piece with that. And the $10 gold piece is about $2,200, $2,400. And how much gold was in that $10 gold piece?
[00:11:52] Just shy of a half ounce. And, but that $10 with those stains is only worth $10. Like it doesn't matter how long it's been. That dollar has lost all of its value and that gold has just continued to increase to about $2,400. So there's... So the one I'm looking at on the screen, Sam, it says 2026 on the front of it. And it's got Liberty and it looks like a...
[00:12:21] Is it an Indian head on it? You know... You've got Heath. You've got a... So the pure gold the U.S. produces is 24 carat. And it has a buffalo on the back. And it's like the old buffalo nickels. It had the Indian head on the front and the buffalo on the back. And so they... I mean, that's like politically incorrect, though. You know, you've got that Indian head on the front. Well, I kind of like that. I think it's great. I think it's historical. And I think it's awesome.
[00:12:51] And it denotes... I mean, it just signifies and screams value, Kurt. And it says United States of America, E Pluribus Unum, right above the buffalo's back. And then underneath... Does that mean one from many, Kurt? Yeah, I think so. And under his chin of the buffalo, it says, In God We Trust. One ounce .999 fine gold.
[00:13:18] And then it has the $50 sign just above that. So... Yeah, but I think that's incredible. But I don't like them locking the ratio of 50 to 1. Because it's not really the way it used to be, either. If you talk about the founding of our nation, or whatever, before they started meddling with, pardon the pun, meddling with it, it was more like a 20 to 1 ratio. Is that about right? 20 to 1 ratio? Heath, is that the real standard? Well, so silver is less dense than gold.
[00:13:45] And so you had 20 silver Morgan dollars, or 20 piece dollars. And those 20 piece dollars would buy you a $20 gold piece. But because of how dense gold is, that gold weighed almost an ounce. Where those silver pieces only weighed about .77 of an ounce. And so you have a little bit of a difference because of the density.
[00:14:07] But ultimately, it was a 16 ounces of silver to 1 ounce of gold, or 20 Morgans to one $20 gold piece. And so... Yeah, and my only point, and I don't mean to belabor the point or anything else, but I want people to understand. The new numbers now, if you take the 2026 Silver Eagle, Silver Dollar, one tri ounce. And then you take this one ounce fine gold, and it basically creates a 50 to 1 ratio.
[00:14:37] And I'm just telling you, that's already manipulated numbers is what I'm trying to get at. Agreed. It's better than the way it is today, Kurt, by far. Because a $50 bill is nothing in comparison, right? I get it. But I just want you to understand that because they pegged gold at $35 an ounce before. And so, you know, you see the manipulation of the currency all the way from our founding almost. To now. And that's really the takeaway here.
[00:15:02] But if I can get one of those $50 gold pieces for $4,369, it's still an incredible deal, Kurt, is the point. Mm-hmm. Well, and it's simply because we've continued to print our money. And the money isn't what it used to be. Where it would... You had what was called silver certificates or gold certificates, so you could trade those for them.
[00:15:26] Looking at the 2026 silver dollar, Sam, you got this beautiful walking... What do they call it? Well, it's a silver eagle. You got a lady, a liberty lady, I guess is what they call it, on the front. And it says liberty on the outside. It says, in God we trust, 2026. And then on the back, it's got the eagle with the, you know, I'm not sure what that is in its claws.
[00:15:56] But it says, United States of America, one ounce fine silver, $1, e pluribus unum. I mean, it's just incredible. Yeah, it's classy stuff. Most people have no idea that our national mints literally make these now. And, you know, when you tell them they look like you're some guy from, you know, another planet. Yeah, for sure. President Trump can certainly get those out.
[00:16:27] You're right about that. And I think it's important for people to get those. So you can literally buy, ladies and gentlemen, right now, for about $64, you can buy one of those dollars. And just so you know, you can buy a gold, $20 gold piece, or now $50 gold piece, for $4,300. So there you have that. If you want a good deal. Now, oil, the petrodollar, that's why we're melting down so fast. Oil surges to over $100 a barrel as Middle East tensions intensify.
[00:16:56] Trump, you know, trying to work with Venezuela to get the oil price of gas down, or the oil price down and gas prices down. Many of the experts are saying it won't happen for quite a while because we've got to ramp stuff up domestically. We've got to ramp stuff up in, you know, Venezuela and other things. Do you expect gas to go down or up? It's over, you know, it's over $4 a gallon on the national now. Heath? Yeah. I'm expecting it to continue to go up.
[00:17:22] We've, just like the U.S. has manipulated gold and silver down for decades, they've also manipulated the price of fuel down for decades. And this manipulation has kept things kind of stable across the board because we notice the rise in fuel costs far more than we notice the rise in food costs. There's just something with that visual that we drive by every single day and knowing those prices.
[00:17:51] Yeah, and it's hard to reduce the size of a gallon of gas. You can reduce the box of Cheerios box, you know, so they can get away with shrink flation that way. You've got less Snickers in your Snickers bar, as Biden puts it. But yet, at the same time, it's hard to do that with a gallon of gas, right? Yeah. Yeah, the measurement's not going away from a gallon, so it's, yeah, you can't really play around with that.
[00:18:11] But the manipulation has been there for decades, and we've been paying very, very low costs when it comes to our fuel. I mean, Europe, when I was over there back in 2002, 2004, they were paying about $10 a gallon in comparison at that point. So it's, we've never had realistic pricing on our fuel like they've had.
[00:18:38] And due to that, we've become complacent with these low prices. But I'm pushing, they're pushing, you know, over $6 a gallon for diesel at your big truck stops, like your pilot and your flying J's and others. Yeah, so you're... And that's going to affect everybody, because everything you buy has that diesel reality in it, right? Yes. Every shipping thing that goes across the U.S. is pushed there by diesel, and so these costs have to be passed forward.
[00:19:07] And they're going to continue to increase all the prices on all the goods we consume daily. But yeah, I continue to see that, you know, the price of oil is going to continue to go up. The system is starting to really struggle.
[00:19:24] I mean, you have the Iranian conflict still that's pushing this, as well as just the other nations struggling to find alternatives to do this. You have certain nations even shutting down their facilities that they were looking at doing in certain areas.
[00:19:45] Because, yeah, England was supposed to be looking at, BP was supposed to be looking at the Baltics, or the sea north of them that they were supposed to be joining in. They dropped that. They're no longer going to be doing that. And it's just like... And while we just dwindled our reserves, China, they filled their reserves up, so they're sitting pretty right now. Time will tell where that goes, Kurt.
[00:20:09] You know, one thing that I think is amazing is if President Trump really wanted to shock people, he could say, look, as far as I can tell, you can get a gallon of gas for about a dime. Now, you've got to have the right dime. But, you know, like right now, if you have a silver dime, Sam, you're talking about a little over five bucks for a silver dime, which would basically pay for a gallon of gas.
[00:20:37] So, you know, if he really wants to shake it up, there's a lot of ways to do it. Right, Heath? Oh, yeah. Yeah, just sharing a little bit of reality when it comes to our money system would shake most people. Unfortunately, you can't really touch the money system. How many dimes make up an ounce of silver right now? Fourteen. Sixty-four divided by fourteen. So a dime is worth about, what, five bucks?
[00:21:07] Yep. The melt value on the dime is about five bucks worth. So, you know, that right there, a gallon of gas, Kurt. In fact, a little leftover even. You could buy a gallon of gas and, you know, have a fountain drink for free, buddy. Imagine seeing that at your local place. You know, gallon. Gas for a dime. Dime. Yeah. That would put the truth in everybody's face. Yeah, true commodities don't change. Yeah, true commodities don't change value.
[00:21:38] That's right. That dime still buys that gallon of gas. That gallon of gas isn't going to five, six dollars of what we think it's going to. It's going to five, six inflated dollars. Like, these dollars are worthless. And they're getting more and more worthless. Commodities do slightly change value, but it's the ebb and flow of reality. So, wheat, for example, as a commodity, if you have a massive hailstorm that destroys all the wheat, hey, wheat's going to cost more. Or if you have some kind of a plague affect the cows, then beef's going to cost more.
[00:22:04] So, there's some external factors, but it's the natural interplay of reality, not manipulated is your point, Keith. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, there's still going to be the supply and demand. So, if the supply shrinks, then the cost is going to go up. So, agreed.
[00:22:22] Yeah, I mean, imagine he could say, look, you know, if crude oil's a hundred bucks a barrel, he could say, well, that's just a little over, you know, around a buck forty for a barrel if you have the right dollar and forty, right? Right? Yeah, that's right. Except to have the right ones. And he'd say, man, we're making them right here at the U.S. Mint. Yeah.
[00:22:49] Yeah, the problem is then they'd have to talk about how many dollars you'd have to give up to get one of those babies, you know. That's where the rub is, ladies and gentlemen. But again, we could straighten this out if we're just honest, Kurt. That's why we call this the Honest Money Report. Yeah. Good point. All right. How much does honey cost? A dime, Kurt? Well, it all depends on the size, Sam. I mean, one lady got a couple of buckets, 25-pound buckets, you know, for 125 bucks a bucket.
[00:23:18] But, you know, the real good stuff, I think. For two silver dollars, is that what you're saying? That's right. Two bucks a bucket? That's right. Two bucks a big bucket. There you go, Sam. That's a sweet deal. Yes, it sure is. Localhoneyram.com. So, Heath Perkins, you get the last Honest Money Report word over at FreeWaterCoinCo.com, sir. Yeah. Please educate yourselves.
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