Radio Show Hour 1 – 05/08/2024

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[00:00:35] This, my fellow Americans is the broadcast for May 8th

[00:00:39] in the year of our Lord, 2024.

[00:00:41] This is our one of two and the goal always to protect life,

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[00:01:03] Two incredible guests today with me, George Ballantine.

[00:01:06] Welcome, sir.

[00:01:07] How are you doing, Sam?

[00:01:08] And all Liberty Roundtable listeners, always glad to be here.

[00:01:11] It's another beautiful day here, sunny day by me.

[00:01:13] But you know, I always say if we wake up in the morning,

[00:01:16] anything after that's a blessing,

[00:01:17] we got a lot of work to do, Sam.

[00:01:19] A lot of work.

[00:01:20] Amen. Amen to that.

[00:01:21] It's a rainy day where I'm at,

[00:01:23] but we're grateful for the water because we need it.

[00:01:26] Lance Milayacho, welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live, sir.

[00:01:30] Hey, thanks, Sam.

[00:01:31] Appreciate it.

[00:01:31] Always happy to be here and always excited

[00:01:34] to talk to your listeners through you.

[00:01:37] So we've got a lot to cover today.

[00:01:38] We got a great guest coming on.

[00:01:40] Eric Prince from Blackwater, obviously.

[00:01:43] You know who that is, I'm sure.

[00:01:44] A Blackwater, former CEO of Blackwater as well.

[00:01:47] Be an interesting discussion to say the least.

[00:01:49] Coming up, keep an eye out for that now.

[00:01:52] The Big Mig, ladies and gentlemen,

[00:01:54] radio, TV, they're everywhere.

[00:01:57] Thebigmig.com.

[00:01:58] Look for Lance.

[00:01:59] Look for George.

[00:02:00] Look for The Big Mig on all social everywhere.

[00:02:03] It's also on your radio every Saturday, by the way.

[00:02:06] Now, I got an interesting question.

[00:02:08] Headline says Daniels briefly discussed the hush money deal

[00:02:15] and explained how the whole thing became public.

[00:02:18] Then the cross-examination started.

[00:02:20] That was the end of yesterday's court case for the Donald.

[00:02:23] Today they're taking a day off.

[00:02:26] Tomorrow, they say sparks fly once again.

[00:02:29] But here's my question for both of you.

[00:02:31] I'm not very smart.

[00:02:31] I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[00:02:33] So I'm going to ask you guys to help me out with this.

[00:02:36] Let's let George take a stab at it first

[00:02:38] and then Lance.

[00:02:38] And here's the question.

[00:02:39] Ready?

[00:02:40] Shoot.

[00:02:41] If it's a hush money for $130,000

[00:02:46] and if Donald paid $130,000 through Michael Cohen

[00:02:48] and they can prove it, which they can't so far

[00:02:50] after two plus weeks, three weeks, whatever,

[00:02:53] four weeks of testimony, they don't even have that done

[00:02:56] to the satisfaction of any expert that I've heard from.

[00:02:58] However, here's my question.

[00:03:00] If somebody pays hush money

[00:03:02] and then the story comes out anyway,

[00:03:04] it's not hush anymore, right?

[00:03:06] I'm not very smart.

[00:03:06] But it's not.

[00:03:07] Okay, so does it get his money back?

[00:03:12] Well, that's a good question.

[00:03:14] Yes, he should get his money back

[00:03:15] because she did say that she wanted to get out of the NDA.

[00:03:20] So I mean, just by getting wanted to get out of the NDA,

[00:03:24] she should get his money back.

[00:03:27] But here's the thing.

[00:03:28] Like yesterday, she testified and the judge allowed this

[00:03:31] which should be a mistrial

[00:03:32] that she detailed her sexual experience with Trump.

[00:03:36] But meanwhile you have a letter from her

[00:03:38] and statements from her saying she never had sex with Trump.

[00:03:41] So which one is it?

[00:03:42] It's conflicting.

[00:03:43] But here's it, I'm gonna throw a wrench in.

[00:03:46] She was the one not to tell for $130,000

[00:03:48] shouldn't she tell the court

[00:03:49] I'm gonna private contract not to tell?

[00:03:51] Listen, I'm gonna throw,

[00:03:52] I'm gonna give you guys something else

[00:03:53] to think about right now.

[00:03:54] You all remember when everybody says

[00:03:56] a storm is coming, a storm is coming?

[00:03:58] What if she is that storm?

[00:04:02] There you have it, stormy,

[00:04:03] or porn nickname or whatever else.

[00:04:06] But if she's for not to tell by private contract

[00:04:08] and she tells number one,

[00:04:11] is there a penalty for breaching the contract?

[00:04:13] We haven't seen the contract, have we Lance?

[00:04:16] No, I mean what we have seen is two affidavits

[00:04:18] saying that it never occurred that she signed.

[00:04:22] So I'm not really sure how that all plays in

[00:04:24] and on top of it stormy Daniels already owes

[00:04:27] Donald Trump $600,000 which even in testimony yesterday

[00:04:31] she said she is not going to pay him.

[00:04:33] So I don't know if she's not going to pay him

[00:04:35] that she can't pay him or because she's unwilling to pay him.

[00:04:38] At the end of the day, she's obviously very unethical.

[00:04:41] The signed affidavits state otherwise,

[00:04:43] now she's contradicted herself.

[00:04:45] I understand she's got a major drug problem.

[00:04:48] I also understand she didn't do very well

[00:04:49] on the witness stand.

[00:04:51] At this point I don't think she's a reliable witness

[00:04:53] and I don't think she's got any credibility

[00:04:55] with the courts or anyone else.

[00:04:56] I mean she's not credible to me Sam.

[00:05:00] I just wonder if he gets money back though

[00:05:02] and I thought it was a hush deal

[00:05:03] and if she's not going to be a hush about it,

[00:05:05] what is the penalty in the contract?

[00:05:08] If anybody in their mind would have a contract

[00:05:10] that's like hey, if you breach this, this happens, right?

[00:05:13] And am I stupid?

[00:05:15] No but I still don't get it because at the end of the day

[00:05:18] they, Michael Cohen's own banker has indicated

[00:05:22] that he took out a home equity line of credit

[00:05:25] to pay this amount.

[00:05:26] Why would he do that for Trump

[00:05:27] if it's really Trump's money that allegedly paid it?

[00:05:30] And at the end of the day,

[00:05:32] Trump hasn't had any connection to the payment,

[00:05:34] any of the accounting or the rest of it.

[00:05:36] This is one of those really just offensive

[00:05:39] department of justice cases

[00:05:41] and really I should call the Department of Injustice

[00:05:43] for what they're doing.

[00:05:44] None of it makes any sense.

[00:05:45] I don't believe the details that are any good whatsoever.

[00:05:50] We still don't have a crime.

[00:05:51] They still haven't said what the crime is

[00:05:54] so I don't understand how you're going to trial

[00:05:57] for where nobody knows what the crime is.

[00:05:59] That's what's astonishing.

[00:06:01] But you mean while the judge now is acknowledges

[00:06:05] he made a mistake by letting Stormy testify

[00:06:09] yesterday about her alleged sex encounters

[00:06:11] and it's going to instruct the jury to disregard that.

[00:06:14] Which how are you going to,

[00:06:15] it's already embedded in your mind.

[00:06:16] It's impossible to undo it.

[00:06:18] Now they say there's guardrails on her testimony.

[00:06:20] That's why Trump's attorney's pushed for a mistrial

[00:06:24] on this thing.

[00:06:24] You can't put that genie back in the bottle.

[00:06:26] There's not guardrails on her testimony.

[00:06:27] She made a mockery of the court.

[00:06:29] Turned into a circus yesterday guys.

[00:06:31] Yeah, I mean, whatever happens with this case,

[00:06:34] it will go to the public and it'll get appealed.

[00:06:37] You know just for mistrial, just for that statement.

[00:06:39] Just for that statement alone,

[00:06:41] yes they allow another jury to hear that.

[00:06:44] Yeah, there's no doubt.

[00:06:45] I mean they wanted to talk about Trump's pajamas.

[00:06:47] They really wanted to just undermine his integrity

[00:06:50] by trying to give some sort of an unsavory picture

[00:06:53] of what occurred.

[00:06:54] That's fine but embarrassment has nothing

[00:06:55] to do with crimes people.

[00:06:58] 100%.

[00:06:59] And that's the plan, right?

[00:07:00] They have to undermine him to the public

[00:07:02] because he's doing so well in the polls across the country

[00:07:05] that the only way they can do it is by these false,

[00:07:07] you know, injustice attacks that are happening

[00:07:10] all across everywhere.

[00:07:13] Anyway, very, very strange stuff.

[00:07:15] I'll tell you that.

[00:07:17] Now Judge Cannon in the other trial

[00:07:21] delays Trump documents trial

[00:07:25] but it's delayed forever I guess because

[00:07:27] or indefinitely because they won't even set a trial date.

[00:07:31] Lance, what's this one about?

[00:07:34] Well let's face it.

[00:07:35] I mean they caught Jack Smith tampering with evidence.

[00:07:40] I think we're talking about deprivation of rights

[00:07:42] under color law and lots of civil rights violations

[00:07:44] and it's criminal.

[00:07:46] He basically staged a lot of the photos

[00:07:49] that they submitted and he told the courts he didn't.

[00:07:51] Now that's come out that he has.

[00:07:53] What other things has he done in this case?

[00:07:55] And that's the problem right now.

[00:07:56] You've got these Department of Justice USAs and AUSAs

[00:08:00] and I believe they are constantly violating the law

[00:08:03] to get these prosecutions and to be successful.

[00:08:06] I mean, the government has a 96% conviction rate.

[00:08:09] The only way you're gonna get a 96% conviction rate

[00:08:12] is if you're cheating.

[00:08:13] And I think the judge has recognized

[00:08:15] that this case has been fabricated from the get-go

[00:08:19] and really at the end of the day

[00:08:20] it's also been obviously done straight out of the White House.

[00:08:23] We've already seen that there's been meetings

[00:08:26] with upper prosecutors of Smiths

[00:08:29] with White House officials prior to the indictment

[00:08:32] ever being issued or the FBI raid ever occurring.

[00:08:35] So this case just stinks to high heaven, Sam.

[00:08:38] Trump says arrest Jack Smith

[00:08:41] after special counsel admits lying to the courts.

[00:08:44] WND.com with that story.

[00:08:47] So he admitted he lied to the court.

[00:08:48] Now I think that Jack Smith deserves due process

[00:08:50] like everybody else,

[00:08:51] but my problem with this whole thing is,

[00:08:54] hey, they lied to the court.

[00:08:57] Now how much can you trust

[00:08:59] the whole prosecution side of this thing now?

[00:09:01] Zero.

[00:09:02] I have to make a correction here guys.

[00:09:04] There's no trust.

[00:09:05] Yes, sir.

[00:09:06] Hold on, we have to make a correction.

[00:09:07] Jack Smith is not special counsel.

[00:09:09] He was not confirmed to be special counsel.

[00:09:11] Yeah.

[00:09:12] So that in itself should be thrown out.

[00:09:15] Let's just get the record straight.

[00:09:17] Well, so who lied?

[00:09:18] Jack or the counsel?

[00:09:20] Special counsel.

[00:09:21] They all lied.

[00:09:22] I don't know, they all lied,

[00:09:23] but he was never confirmed to be special counsel.

[00:09:25] So the case should not be going forward.

[00:09:29] You know, I think Sam,

[00:09:30] I think the most offensive part of it

[00:09:32] is this qualified immunity,

[00:09:33] sovereign immunity thing that occurs

[00:09:36] with government officials.

[00:09:37] And at the end of the day,

[00:09:38] I believe they've already violated the terms of that.

[00:09:41] Whenever you violate the obligation

[00:09:44] and your oath of office to the constitution

[00:09:47] or otherwise, and there's a whole set of guidelines

[00:09:50] that you know, prosecutors, U.S. prosecutors

[00:09:53] have to abide by.

[00:09:55] I don't think he has qualified immunity anymore.

[00:09:57] In my opinion, that's what they hide behind.

[00:10:00] That's why they continue to commit crimes

[00:10:02] in all these Department of Justice cases

[00:10:04] across the United States.

[00:10:05] And they get away with it

[00:10:07] because there's no accountability

[00:10:08] and no consequences for their actions.

[00:10:12] There you have it.

[00:10:13] So I don't know if Trump gets his money back

[00:10:15] or not people, but in my opinion,

[00:10:16] if you pay somebody hush money,

[00:10:18] there's usually a contract

[00:10:19] and there should be a penalty or something if you talk.

[00:10:22] Now she's literally telling it all to the court

[00:10:24] and that transcript is being released every day.

[00:10:26] She's telling the whole world.

[00:10:29] And my question is, does Donald get money back

[00:10:31] or what? Go ahead and skip the break.

[00:10:33] I just find that interesting.

[00:10:35] So Jack Smith should be arrested

[00:10:36] or he should at least have due process.

[00:10:38] I agree with that, but something needs

[00:10:40] to happen to these clowns.

[00:10:41] And Jim Jordan says he's gonna look into it, Lance.

[00:10:45] Yeah, look into it.

[00:10:46] Let's have another committee.

[00:10:48] Let's have another hearing.

[00:10:49] Let's stomp our feet.

[00:10:50] And I'm not picking that Jim Jordan.

[00:10:51] I actually like him more.

[00:10:52] It comes out that this is really bad,

[00:10:54] but no harm, no foul, right?

[00:10:55] Yeah, I mean, I like Jim Jordan,

[00:10:57] but at the end of the day, it's the same thing

[00:10:58] we hear over and over again, Sam.

[00:11:00] It's always, they're always gonna talk about

[00:11:03] the inequity of something.

[00:11:04] They're gonna talk about, oh, this is really wrong.

[00:11:06] But where's he counting, where's the consequences?

[00:11:08] Where are the arrests?

[00:11:09] Where are the indictments?

[00:11:10] At the end of the day, tampering with evidence,

[00:11:13] that is a statutory crime under federal law.

[00:11:17] Why isn't he being charged for tampering with evidence?

[00:11:19] Because again, what he's doing

[00:11:21] is he's violating the defendant's rights.

[00:11:23] It's not a Trump.

[00:11:23] But again, nothing happens.

[00:11:25] They won't even report it to the OPR,

[00:11:27] which is the Office of Professional Responsibility

[00:11:29] or the OIG.

[00:11:30] And what they should have done

[00:11:31] is already reported it to both of them.

[00:11:33] And they should have filed

[00:11:34] a bar complaint against Jack Smith immediately.

[00:11:37] I don't know what Trump's attorneys are doing,

[00:11:38] but at the end of the day,

[00:11:39] this shouldn't have to wait.

[00:11:41] The judge could have immediately said,

[00:11:42] well, I'm gonna file a bar complaint against you.

[00:11:44] She has the authority from the bench

[00:11:46] to report to the OPR, report to the OIG

[00:11:49] and file bar complaints.

[00:11:51] But it never happens.

[00:11:52] These prosecutors do this over and over again.

[00:11:55] And I'm just disgusted by the Department of Justice.

[00:11:58] Well, we're just wasting more time

[00:12:01] and more of our taxpayer money

[00:12:02] with all these inquiries, these panels.

[00:12:06] For what?

[00:12:07] Like Lancy said, all it accomplishes is nothing.

[00:12:09] It's a clown show.

[00:12:10] It's just to look good for their constituents.

[00:12:14] If there was actual consequences that came with it,

[00:12:17] bring it on.

[00:12:18] But we get enough.

[00:12:20] We impeach a president over BS twice,

[00:12:25] but we can't impeach a president

[00:12:27] when we have the real facts, the real evidence.

[00:12:30] We have the source, the receipts.

[00:12:31] Amen.

[00:12:32] Here's the receipts.

[00:12:33] And here's the sauce on Joe Biden speaking of that.

[00:12:36] This in my opinion is criminal activity

[00:12:37] at the highest levels.

[00:12:38] Barack Obama committed it as well.

[00:12:41] Headline says Biden goes off script,

[00:12:44] admits real reason why he's allowing illegals

[00:12:48] to invade the United States.

[00:12:51] Yeah, I guess he admitted it during an interview

[00:12:53] on a Hispanic radio station, Lance.

[00:12:57] Yeah, that's correct.

[00:12:58] You know, Sam, we've been saying this all along.

[00:13:02] Have we not?

[00:13:03] You and I have even talked about it on your show.

[00:13:05] At the end of the day,

[00:13:06] they're creating a ghost voter pool

[00:13:09] and Biden knows exactly what he's doing

[00:13:11] because they have lost complete track

[00:13:13] and the numbers they're giving

[00:13:14] with the gotaways and all.

[00:13:16] I'm hearing is more like 25 million.

[00:13:18] Now think about this ghost voter pool.

[00:13:20] These names, they don't even know

[00:13:21] if these are the actual people

[00:13:23] because most of the illegal invaders

[00:13:25] are throwing away their IDs on the other side

[00:13:28] of the border.

[00:13:28] We heard over and over again

[00:13:30] how there's IDs all over the ground.

[00:13:31] They're throwing away their backpacks

[00:13:32] or coming in.

[00:13:33] Some of them even aren't stopping at the border.

[00:13:35] Joe Biden has already flown directly

[00:13:37] into the United States over 500,000 illegal invaders.

[00:13:42] He is obviously broke so many laws

[00:13:45] and what he do it and Kamala Harris is just as guilty.

[00:13:47] But here he is admitting the real reason.

[00:13:50] And when he talks about this off script,

[00:13:51] he's talking about 11 million aliens, right?

[00:13:54] And he says it's an even bigger influx

[00:13:57] now in terms of Hispanic voters

[00:13:59] or Hispanic citizens.

[00:14:02] That's what he says.

[00:14:02] It's now in terms of Hispanic,

[00:14:04] or Hispanic citizens.

[00:14:05] Then he goes on to say,

[00:14:06] Hispanic community is part of the future of America.

[00:14:09] 28 out of every 100 students in school speak Spanish, 28.

[00:14:14] Now that's the kind of wordings used

[00:14:16] but we knew this all along, right?

[00:14:18] I mean, this invasion makes no sense.

[00:14:21] It's not good for America.

[00:14:22] It's not good for the American people

[00:14:24] and it's not how the laws of the United States

[00:14:27] are supposed to be performed on.

[00:14:30] Yeah, that's if you care about the law.

[00:14:31] All right, here's Joe Biden

[00:14:33] on the Hispanic discussion here.

[00:14:39] It's a little bit like back in 1840s

[00:14:42] when the great exodus from Ireland

[00:14:44] it got to the famine

[00:14:45] and the way Irish Catholics are treated.

[00:14:47] We said, no, we don't need them.

[00:14:50] There's a large influx.

[00:14:52] There's even a bigger influx.

[00:14:57] Hispanic citizens won't want to become citizens.

[00:15:00] So it's just enormously important.

[00:15:04] Hispanic voters, Hispanic citizens,

[00:15:06] there's an influx basically an influx of illegals

[00:15:09] which he's not mentioning.

[00:15:11] But listen, this has been a Democrat talking point

[00:15:13] for a long time.

[00:15:14] This is not new to Joe Biden.

[00:15:15] Joe's a criminal for allowing it to happen

[00:15:17] without a doubt.

[00:15:19] He should be arrested and prosecuted

[00:15:20] to the full extent of law.

[00:15:21] But Barack Obama literally was saying the same thing

[00:15:26] when he was talking to Hispanic media.

[00:15:28] Here is Barack making the point a lot more clear

[00:15:31] because at least he can talk.

[00:15:33] Here's Biden.

[00:15:35] Or I'm sorry, here's Obama.

[00:15:39] Many of the millennials dreamers undocumented citizens

[00:15:43] and I call them citizens because they contribute

[00:15:44] to this country are fearful of voting.

[00:15:47] So if I vote, will immigration know where I live?

[00:15:51] Will they come for my family and deport us?

[00:15:53] Not true.

[00:15:54] And the reason is first of all, when you vote,

[00:15:59] you are a citizen yourself

[00:16:01] and there is not a situation where the voting rolls

[00:16:04] somehow are transferred over

[00:16:06] and people start investigating, et cetera.

[00:16:08] The same to the vote is strictly confidential.

[00:16:14] So you literally have this media lady

[00:16:16] with a Hispanic media.

[00:16:18] You literally have Barack Obama

[00:16:20] and now you have Joe Biden talking to another Hispanic media

[00:16:22] they're all saying, look, illegals are citizens.

[00:16:25] Illegals can vote.

[00:16:27] I mean, they're blatantly in your face admitting it, George.

[00:16:31] They are.

[00:16:32] I mean, they're coming over.

[00:16:35] We had how many people signed up to vote

[00:16:38] without ID between Texas, Georgia, Arizona.

[00:16:42] I think it was well over a million.

[00:16:44] It's probably climbing up.

[00:16:46] I mean, our voter rolls are astronomically incorrect

[00:16:51] and they need to be cleaned up

[00:16:53] but they fight us on this day in and day out.

[00:16:56] I mean, we're actually slowly getting somewhere recently

[00:16:58] in the last few days with some court cases,

[00:17:01] being in Georgia, what was going on

[00:17:03] and we just got to continue fighting

[00:17:05] because they want the illegals,

[00:17:07] they need them for the votes

[00:17:08] and that's the only way they're gonna win.

[00:17:10] Either by getting, putting illegals to vote

[00:17:13] or just keep cheating.

[00:17:15] Cheating.

[00:17:16] And well, that is cheating anyway

[00:17:17] but cheating by means of fake ballots

[00:17:21] and hacking the systems.

[00:17:23] I am bothered by and more than bothered, I'm angry.

[00:17:26] I'm angry that they use the word citizens

[00:17:28] to describe these people.

[00:17:29] These people are not citizens

[00:17:30] and they're coming in from not just Hispanic countries

[00:17:33] they're coming in from 106 different foreign countries.

[00:17:37] They haven't gone through the legal process.

[00:17:39] We're not vetting them correctly.

[00:17:40] At the end of the day, calling them a citizen

[00:17:42] are calling them voters.

[00:17:44] That's offensive to the people

[00:17:46] that have had to fight their way into this country.

[00:17:48] We have people that have come here illegally.

[00:17:50] It is a lie though.

[00:17:51] It is a lie.

[00:17:52] It's offensive but it's an absolute lie.

[00:17:55] And it's a crime.

[00:17:56] And if we allow those criminals,

[00:17:57] those illegals to vote in our election systems

[00:18:01] and if you call them citizens

[00:18:03] or pretend they've got citizenship,

[00:18:06] that is absolutely against the law.

[00:18:10] Yeah.

[00:18:11] When does the law apply to Democrats?

[00:18:12] These are multiple crimes being committed.

[00:18:13] Multiple crimes are being committed

[00:18:15] by the Biden administration

[00:18:16] and by both sides of the aisle,

[00:18:18] both the Republicans and the Democrats.

[00:18:20] And they're acting like somehow we're stupid

[00:18:23] and we don't recognize what they're doing.

[00:18:25] It is very clear all enemies foreign and domestic.

[00:18:28] And at this point I look at DC as a domestic enemy

[00:18:32] of the people of the United States

[00:18:34] because they are violating everything

[00:18:36] they're sworn to uphold.

[00:18:37] And let's face it, Sam,

[00:18:38] if you were running an illegal immigration operation,

[00:18:40] they'd be kicking in your door right now.

[00:18:43] There's no question.

[00:18:44] George is right too.

[00:18:45] And you say when do the Democrats obey the law?

[00:18:48] I mean that's a valid point too.

[00:18:49] And the reason they don't is because nobody demands

[00:18:52] or prosecutes them for their violations of the law

[00:18:56] so they can get away with it.

[00:18:59] Well there's no consequences.

[00:19:01] There is no consequences for them

[00:19:03] so they're gonna keep doing it.

[00:19:04] But the question is, it's the law.

[00:19:06] So how is it allowed to be circumvented like this?

[00:19:11] But it's not only this,

[00:19:12] they do it in everything else and use,

[00:19:14] like Lance would say,

[00:19:15] they use lawfare against everybody.

[00:19:18] But meanwhile we have billion dollar mega

[00:19:21] Republican donors, where are they?

[00:19:23] They should help.

[00:19:24] Where does the fund help combat all this lawfare?

[00:19:28] I mean you gotta give it to the Democrats.

[00:19:29] They do come together.

[00:19:31] They pull together, they'll vote together.

[00:19:33] You know, they stand with unity.

[00:19:35] They'll put everybody where their mouth is.

[00:19:36] Right.

[00:19:38] The Republican it's done up.

[00:19:39] That's it.

[00:19:40] You should just get rid of the party and start over.

[00:19:44] We don't need it.

[00:19:45] Let me stop my feet for the Republicans.

[00:19:47] Let me stop my feet because that's all they do.

[00:19:49] They make a bunch of noise

[00:19:51] and they don't do anything else.

[00:19:52] And these are multiple crimes being committed

[00:19:55] but that's the problem right?

[00:19:56] The Department of Injustice is gonna go after Trump

[00:19:59] and they're gonna fraudulently tamper with evidence

[00:20:02] and that's what they're gonna waste our resources on

[00:20:04] but they're gonna allow Joe Biden, Kamala Harris

[00:20:07] and our congressional members

[00:20:09] to allow this illegal border invasion to go on.

[00:20:12] And I want immigration, but I want legal immigration

[00:20:15] and I want engineers, doctors, lawyers.

[00:20:17] I want good contributing people,

[00:20:20] not people from transnational gangs

[00:20:21] or MS-13 invading the border.

[00:20:24] I want good people to come into the United States

[00:20:25] that will actually help the United States

[00:20:27] be a better country.

[00:20:28] And I want them to come in in a controlled way

[00:20:30] that we can assimilate them and handle them right now.

[00:20:33] The influx is literally melting down

[00:20:35] all kinds of communities.

[00:20:37] They don't have the infrastructure to take care of.

[00:20:38] They don't have places for people to come.

[00:20:40] I'm fine if we craft an immigration program

[00:20:42] that brings the right people here

[00:20:44] that vets them appropriately

[00:20:45] if they've got some kind of a sponsor

[00:20:47] so that they're not on the public dole in any way

[00:20:50] that they can, you know,

[00:20:51] I don't have any problem with appropriate immigration

[00:20:54] for the right reasons and the right circumstances.

[00:20:56] But speaking of all their crimes though

[00:20:58] the Deep State Committee of the Crimes,

[00:21:00] our guest here in a couple of minutes,

[00:21:01] Eric Prince, former CEO of and founder of Blackwater

[00:21:06] is gonna break down even more of their crimes, right Lance?

[00:21:09] Yeah, I mean, Eric's coming on to talk about

[00:21:11] the 702 visa.

[00:21:12] We already know that this is an illegal surveillance

[00:21:15] of United States citizens.

[00:21:17] He's gonna be talking about

[00:21:18] and he's gonna be talking about big tech data collection.

[00:21:21] And Eric is an expert in so many areas

[00:21:23] because he's dealt with so many different governments

[00:21:25] over the years.

[00:21:26] And I think it's gonna be a great conversation.

[00:21:29] It's gonna be super interesting

[00:21:30] because there's one guy that's got insight,

[00:21:31] it's definitely him.

[00:21:33] In the meantime though,

[00:21:34] you should know that the Boy Scouts,

[00:21:37] they've changed their name now.

[00:21:38] I guess it's gonna go into effect next year.

[00:21:42] It's just a strange in my deal.

[00:21:44] Boy Scouts of America reveals name change.

[00:21:50] Organization will be called Scouting America

[00:21:53] and that'll happen next year.

[00:21:55] They've gone fully woke now.

[00:21:58] They've already sold everybody down the river

[00:22:00] and all the conservatives and Christians

[00:22:01] and moral people left.

[00:22:03] Now they're just gonna call it Scouting America.

[00:22:05] And I think what they need to do

[00:22:06] is they need to basically say,

[00:22:08] Scouting for child, whatever?

[00:22:14] All I'm telling you is this is going off the rails guys.

[00:22:17] Wait, why did they change the name?

[00:22:19] Because they're going woke?

[00:22:21] Yeah, because they don't wanna say.

[00:22:22] So what about the Girl Scouts?

[00:22:23] They still keeping their name?

[00:22:25] I don't know yet.

[00:22:26] They're a different organization.

[00:22:27] They haven't said, I guess they are.

[00:22:30] I mean, because let's face, let's get some facts here.

[00:22:33] Over 80,000 boys were abused over seven by 7,000 men

[00:22:38] in the Boy Scouts that resulted

[00:22:40] in a $2.4 billion bankruptcy settlement.

[00:22:44] Other than that, it's not so bad Lance.

[00:22:47] I mean look, how ridiculous is that?

[00:22:50] They've gotta change the name to make it acceptable.

[00:22:54] To me, this whole woke ideology, DEI

[00:22:57] and all the rest of this garbage

[00:22:59] is just a misdirection, right?

[00:23:00] It's a sleight of hand.

[00:23:02] Let's focus on changing the name of the Boy Scouts,

[00:23:05] but let's not worry about the border.

[00:23:07] Let's focus on making sure we have

[00:23:09] drag queen story hour in schools,

[00:23:12] but let's not worry about the hundreds of billions

[00:23:14] of dollars getting funneled into Ukraine

[00:23:16] and laundered out of it.

[00:23:17] I mean, it's disgusting, right?

[00:23:19] Don't look at Joe Biden leaving $100 billion

[00:23:22] for the weapons in Afghanistan.

[00:23:24] Let's focus on something else.

[00:23:28] It's insane.

[00:23:29] George, you get the last word on this thing.

[00:23:32] Well, this government, so let's just talk

[00:23:36] about Afghanistan and over there.

[00:23:39] We have war.

[00:23:39] We didn't have war under Trump.

[00:23:40] We have now, once again, cash being sent over

[00:23:46] to Iran and Afghanistan and Hamas now

[00:23:49] by the Biden administration under the cover of darkness.

[00:23:53] You've seen this with Iran?

[00:23:54] Unjust, immoral war.

[00:23:56] Yeah, he should go to prison as a war criminal

[00:23:59] for funding, you know,

[00:24:01] Congress hasn't even declared a war of any kind.

[00:24:03] How are we there?

[00:24:04] How are we funding it?

[00:24:05] The answer is because Congress gave him money

[00:24:07] and now they're giving him protection

[00:24:08] as he carries it out.

[00:24:14] Who's protecting him?

[00:24:15] Why are they, who's okay in this money?

[00:24:17] Is he allowed to just send money without approval?

[00:24:20] No, Congress gave him big old slush funds.

[00:24:22] They can do whatever he wants.

[00:24:23] That's my point about Jim Jordan

[00:24:25] and about Mike Johnson and these guys.

[00:24:28] You know, they act like it's, you know,

[00:24:30] other guys are going off the rails

[00:24:31] and they're trying to hold the light.

[00:24:32] No, they're funding all this.

[00:24:34] Every bit of funding that Joe, you know,

[00:24:35] comes up with, they've granted him in weird ways

[00:24:38] without controlling the details of the funds

[00:24:40] so he can do what he wants with it.

[00:24:41] That's the problem.

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[00:30:13] Welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live

[00:30:15] with your host, Sam Bushman.

[00:30:17] And you're our special guest, Eric Prince.

[00:30:20] I'm Lance Miliaccio, joined by George Valentin.

[00:30:24] Eric Prince, American businessman, former Navy SEAL,

[00:30:27] and founder of the private military company Blackwater.

[00:30:29] He served as Blackwater CEO until 2009

[00:30:32] and as its chairman until its sale in 2010.

[00:30:35] He was also the head of a private equity

[00:30:37] from Frontier Resource Group

[00:30:39] and was chairman of the Hong Kong-listed

[00:30:40] Frontier Services Group until 2021.

[00:30:43] And now, founder and CEO of Unplugged.com,

[00:30:47] a secure phone system.

[00:30:49] Obviously we are all worried about security.

[00:30:51] We're gonna be talking about the FISA 702 warrants

[00:30:54] and of course data collection.

[00:30:56] All of us something very worried about.

[00:30:58] Eric, thanks for joining us today.

[00:30:59] We really appreciate it.

[00:31:02] Thanks for having me guys.

[00:31:05] Listen, we were talking you and I online over on X

[00:31:09] and we're talking about the concerns of the 702 FISA warrant.

[00:31:13] It's been hot in the news, obviously.

[00:31:15] Lots of people are not happy about it.

[00:31:17] Seems unconstitutional.

[00:31:19] What are your thoughts?

[00:31:22] Well, look, we have a fourth amendment

[00:31:26] so that there is a due process

[00:31:28] of your suspected of a crime

[00:31:30] that the law enforcement is supposed to gather evidence,

[00:31:34] take it to which includes probable cause,

[00:31:38] take it to a judge, get a warrant,

[00:31:41] be able to do a deeper dive.

[00:31:44] What this FISA, it's not even an extension,

[00:31:46] it's a massive enlargement of it and it's disgusting.

[00:31:51] So what happens in the modern world

[00:31:55] is that your data that's collected on your phone,

[00:32:00] where you go, what you buy, who you call,

[00:32:03] what you browse, all of that is collected by Big Tech

[00:32:06] and sold to advertisers to push you stuff.

[00:32:10] The apps sitting on your phone collect

[00:32:13] all of your habits of life.

[00:32:16] They collect your conversations, everything.

[00:32:19] And basically the FBI and third law enforcement

[00:32:23] got sick of getting beaten up or yelled at in Congress

[00:32:27] for saying why have you bought all this commercial data

[00:32:32] snooping on Americans from these commercial companies

[00:32:36] like 246,000 times.

[00:32:39] And so what the feds did is they just came back and said now

[00:32:42] with what was just passed into law,

[00:32:46] the government can compel any company

[00:32:48] that has any personal data, your schedule,

[00:32:53] what you bought, what you browsed, messages sent,

[00:32:57] voicemails, anything, they can compel it

[00:33:00] to be turned over without a warrant at all.

[00:33:03] And so it's a, I can't see how that stands up constitutionally

[00:33:09] but it's a further evidence of the creeping and enlargement

[00:33:14] of the blob of Washington of this Orwellian big brother

[00:33:20] that is certainly not what the founders ever intended.

[00:33:23] And I'm fully disgusted.

[00:33:25] Obviously all the Democrats supported it

[00:33:28] and I'm disgusted how many Republicans

[00:33:29] went along with it as well.

[00:33:32] Yeah, the surveillance state seems to be supported

[00:33:34] by both sides of the aisle.

[00:33:36] There's no doubt, you know, our opinion

[00:33:38] on the Big Make Talk radio show

[00:33:40] and of course on our regular show

[00:33:41] is that it's just a uniparty.

[00:33:43] We got one group that's effectively violating the laws

[00:33:46] of the United States obviously not following

[00:33:49] what the founders and framers wanted.

[00:33:51] They operate unconstitutionally and non-constitutionally.

[00:33:55] It's just expansive and they continue to do it.

[00:33:57] And I think it's incredible the way this document's

[00:34:00] been written even to the fact that they've given themselves

[00:34:02] in Congress an exclusion where it has to be

[00:34:05] a direct request if somebody wants to pull a visor on them.

[00:34:09] So it's kind of laws for thee not for me.

[00:34:12] And at the end of the day, you know,

[00:34:13] I'm not sure where we go from here.

[00:34:15] How do we stop this kind of data collection

[00:34:18] and this intrusion?

[00:34:19] Because they're doing it with no warrant.

[00:34:21] We know that that isn't constitutional.

[00:34:23] You know, what's the step?

[00:34:24] How do we solve it?

[00:34:25] Because I think this problem just continues

[00:34:27] to get bigger, Eric.

[00:34:28] I agree.

[00:34:29] Before we get to the solving it,

[00:34:30] I want to kind of rewind Eric's kind of commentary on this.

[00:34:35] Till when George Bush did this, you know,

[00:34:37] he started spying on the American people.

[00:34:39] They put Homeland Security in place.

[00:34:41] The Republicans did all this.

[00:34:43] George said in the beginning when he got caught doing it,

[00:34:45] oh no, I'm just spying on foreigners.

[00:34:47] Don't worry if the terrorists and their foreigners,

[00:34:49] then if you're not a terrorist or you're not a foreigner

[00:34:51] you don't need to worry about this.

[00:34:53] And then George Bush got caught

[00:34:55] and it turned out that he was monitoring

[00:34:56] everybody's communications, all of it.

[00:34:58] And then he said, well, I'm sorry, but it's necessary.

[00:35:01] And Congress bailed him out.

[00:35:03] Instead of impeaching George Bush

[00:35:05] and criminally charging him for his abuse of the fourth,

[00:35:08] fifth, you know, all kinds of amendments,

[00:35:10] all kinds of keeping your hands off, if you will,

[00:35:14] then Congress really basically just protected

[00:35:16] and backed George and gave him, you know,

[00:35:19] some kind of immunity or protection

[00:35:21] for his criminal activity.

[00:35:23] In my opinion, that makes them all criminals.

[00:35:25] Isn't this where it really started

[00:35:26] at least publicly speaking, Eric?

[00:35:30] Look, the national horror that happened after 9-11,

[00:35:35] people were very scared.

[00:35:37] And some of the intelligence community said,

[00:35:41] I would need this ability to monitor jihadi communications

[00:35:46] coming into the United States

[00:35:47] to figure out if there's any other inside threats

[00:35:50] inside the United States.

[00:35:51] And the problem with endless wars

[00:35:54] where you don't end conflicts,

[00:35:58] but you manage them ad nauseam means

[00:36:01] that the power of those government agencies

[00:36:04] never gets called into question

[00:36:06] and they just keep growing and growing and growing.

[00:36:09] And the one thing, it's a real mistake

[00:36:13] that the US government continues to make

[00:36:17] is it just keeps throwing money at a problem.

[00:36:19] And so these bureaucracies get larger.

[00:36:22] They're certainly not more competent,

[00:36:24] but they keep asking for more authority and more power

[00:36:28] to try to justify their existence,

[00:36:30] especially when they mess up.

[00:36:31] Because there was actually a FISA process

[00:36:34] that predated 9-11 even,

[00:36:36] but all those powerful federal agencies

[00:36:40] missed that conspiracy that was 9-11.

[00:36:44] So I just wrote a long editorial in IM1776.

[00:36:50] It's kind of a niche journal,

[00:36:53] but it was a kind of a takedown

[00:36:55] with 30 years of neoconform policy

[00:37:00] questioning how we even conduct those wars

[00:37:02] because we've lost our way on the counterterrorism front

[00:37:06] and certainly with the pervasive surveillance,

[00:37:10] which is, yes, it probably started out

[00:37:13] with the right intent of stopping another 9-11

[00:37:16] from the military.

[00:37:17] Of stopping another 9-11 from happening,

[00:37:21] but now when it's directed at all collection,

[00:37:24] at any communications that's happening

[00:37:28] inside of America amongst Americans

[00:37:30] that is antithetical to what the constitution states

[00:37:33] and it must be stopped.

[00:37:36] It must be reversed or what we recognize

[00:37:42] or recognized as America will very soon

[00:37:45] be completely stopped.

[00:37:47] Now, Mike Johnson carried the ball.

[00:37:50] Not only did he approve it in backroom deals

[00:37:53] and secret rooms, there was a lot of conservatives saying,

[00:37:56] let's let FISA die, let's let 702 go,

[00:37:59] but all they did was tweak the provisions

[00:38:00] and expand it secretly and then pass it

[00:38:03] in big omnibus spending bills.

[00:38:07] In my opinion, it makes all who signed on criminal.

[00:38:10] The only leverage we the people have, Eric,

[00:38:12] as far as I can tell us at the next election cycle

[00:38:14] vote them out with such large margins

[00:38:17] that they can't commit election fraud.

[00:38:19] I don't know that we have any other choices at this point

[00:38:21] when the legislature, instead of protecting us

[00:38:24] from the executive branch, doubles down

[00:38:27] and backs the executive branch against the people,

[00:38:30] the deep state becomes too powerful.

[00:38:32] They've got secret combinations above the people

[00:38:34] and that's what we're seeing today, right?

[00:38:38] Yes, look, the really disgusting thing for me

[00:38:41] is that the Republicans in the House

[00:38:43] are supposed to control the power of the purse

[00:38:45] and the way to stop these federal programs

[00:38:49] is to not fund them.

[00:38:51] And yet the same very swamp dominated,

[00:38:56] we'll get to these appropriations committee,

[00:38:58] you're right in being angry at Johnson.

[00:39:01] I don't know what got into his head

[00:39:02] or how he was extorted to go along with that,

[00:39:07] but yeah, they should have let the FISA extension die

[00:39:13] and now we're stuck with it.

[00:39:14] And I had great hopes when he became speaker,

[00:39:16] but man, he has been a huge disappointment.

[00:39:19] Well, Sam, didn't they put in this new,

[00:39:22] they added into it that where Congress can't be surveilled

[00:39:25] or they have to be notified and approve it.

[00:39:27] So there is no consequences for them.

[00:39:31] So why not approve it?

[00:39:32] They don't care in that sense.

[00:39:35] Yes, I wasn't aware of the exception for Congress

[00:39:38] but that certainly wouldn't surprise me.

[00:39:41] I mean, they've exempted themselves

[00:39:42] on healthcare requirements, ADA requirements.

[00:39:46] They, yeah, they are the embodiment of rules for me

[00:39:49] but not for me.

[00:39:51] Yeah, it's in section 105 that the section is titled

[00:39:54] Restrictions relating to conduct of certain queries

[00:39:56] by federal Bureau of Investigation.

[00:39:58] So and the way it's worded,

[00:40:01] I would have to say that it's intentionally obtuse.

[00:40:04] It's just you read it and it gives them

[00:40:06] a lot of wiggle room.

[00:40:08] At the end of day to me, this is collusion.

[00:40:10] They just continue to operate extra constitutionally

[00:40:14] or unconstitutionally.

[00:40:15] You can title it any way you want.

[00:40:17] At the end of the day, I don't know what we do

[00:40:19] because I agree with you Sam, vote them out

[00:40:22] but is that even possible with this election system

[00:40:24] and the corruption?

[00:40:25] Because you have to look way back

[00:40:26] the foreign surveillance system

[00:40:27] when they built the Hammer supercomputer

[00:40:29] and the Hammer exploit.

[00:40:31] It was all about foreign surveillance

[00:40:32] and then we were told shortly thereafter

[00:40:34] in a case in Las Vegas in 2006

[00:40:37] that Dennis Montgomery was involved

[00:40:38] and those foreign surveillance systems

[00:40:40] had been turned around on the American public

[00:40:43] and they'd been using them to compromise

[00:40:44] FISA court judges, district court judges, government officials.

[00:40:48] And I believe that's what's happened to Johnson.

[00:40:50] I think he's compromised.

[00:40:51] I've heard some stories about him being drugged

[00:40:53] into a skiff for a private discussion

[00:40:55] that he came out of their white faced.

[00:40:57] It sure seems like it

[00:40:58] because he talked a big game on his way in

[00:41:01] and now everything he does seems to be opposite

[00:41:04] of what we thought he was gonna do

[00:41:06] and I'm disgusted by all of it, Sam.

[00:41:08] It reminds you of Reagan getting shot.

[00:41:11] He came with a different tune until he got shot

[00:41:13] and then he kind of changed his tune

[00:41:14] and Bush got put it on his coat tails.

[00:41:17] Anytime someone decides to stand against the establishment

[00:41:21] the regime if you will, things seem to go south for them.

[00:41:25] Is there no other way Eric than to either play ball

[00:41:28] or lose your career, lose your reputation

[00:41:32] and possibly die?

[00:41:33] Is there any other way for these people to stand up

[00:41:35] for you think?

[00:41:37] Look, there are still some stalwarts in Congress

[00:41:39] that will fight for liberty both in the House and the Senate.

[00:41:43] Support those.

[00:41:44] And I know this comes down to money for politicians

[00:41:49] and the trade associations,

[00:41:51] the lobbyists that shower money

[00:41:54] on the guys that do the wrong thing.

[00:41:58] I think it's up to the American people

[00:41:59] to vote with their dollars.

[00:42:01] It's probably more important to pay attention

[00:42:03] to where dollars are going

[00:42:06] to cause them that they don't agree with.

[00:42:08] And it's probably more important for them

[00:42:09] to pay attention to that than it is to who's winning

[00:42:13] in football, basketball or baseball.

[00:42:17] It requires an informed, educated, engaged citizenry

[00:42:22] to have a republic.

[00:42:23] If you wanna live under a dictatorship

[00:42:26] and be distracted by bread and circuses

[00:42:30] which is effectively what you can even call

[00:42:32] professional sports.

[00:42:35] Yeah, that's a different, a lot of people live like that

[00:42:38] but that's certainly not how I choose to live

[00:42:40] and we need to have a government that is responsive.

[00:42:43] I think COVID was a very interesting example

[00:42:49] of the importance of local government.

[00:42:51] Suddenly your mayor really matters

[00:42:54] and your county commissioner and the local sheriff.

[00:42:58] And so being engaged at that level,

[00:43:01] you can still keep some of the madness out.

[00:43:02] The reason we have problems in America right now

[00:43:04] is because our federal government has gone way beyond

[00:43:08] what its scope was supposed to be.

[00:43:10] 100%.

[00:43:12] And it's been enabled by a fiat currency

[00:43:16] that we can with effectively a blank checkbook

[00:43:19] that Washington never has to make a guns or butter choice.

[00:43:23] They just throw a lot of money at everything.

[00:43:26] And of course, you're gonna have

[00:43:28] a runaway federal government

[00:43:31] when you can spend unlimited money on it.

[00:43:34] But as they move to the BRICS system around the world

[00:43:37] and as they start to trade petrol or gas if you oil

[00:43:41] for other currencies, not the US dollar,

[00:43:43] the hegemony is gone, Eric.

[00:43:46] You're right.

[00:43:48] And that actually may be in a twisted way

[00:43:52] a benefit to American liberty

[00:43:53] because it will force our government

[00:43:55] to have to make choices and that fund

[00:43:59] unlimited welfare systems

[00:44:00] on top of unlimited defense spending

[00:44:03] and all the other discretionary nonsense they do.

[00:44:05] Unless they throw a digital currency on us

[00:44:08] and take us to war.

[00:44:11] Say again?

[00:44:12] What if they throw a digital currency on us

[00:44:13] and take us to war?

[00:44:14] World War III is their only way out.

[00:44:20] Look, if you travel through rural China,

[00:44:24] there's very little cash left to be worn.

[00:44:26] People pay through WeChat.

[00:44:27] All of it is controlled through a phone

[00:44:29] which gives the state unlimited power over their lives.

[00:44:35] In America, we must absolutely defend cash

[00:44:40] and including all these little woke coffee shops

[00:44:43] that don't wanna accept cash anymore,

[00:44:46] make a scene or avoid them, but pay with cash.

[00:44:50] It says on the front of every currency note,

[00:44:52] this note is legal tender

[00:44:55] for all bets public and private.

[00:44:56] They don't get to choose whether they accept your cash

[00:44:58] or not.

[00:45:02] Well, and if we look at the constitution,

[00:45:03] all transactions should be gold or silver

[00:45:05] for that matter, at least backed by such George.

[00:45:09] It should be, but you know,

[00:45:10] that's why we need to get rid of the feds

[00:45:12] and go back to backing our currency by gold and silver.

[00:45:16] If we did that, I think we'd been in great position.

[00:45:20] I mean, we're buying up a lot of the gold,

[00:45:22] but you know, something that when Eric said

[00:45:24] about 9-1, 9-11.

[00:45:26] You know, since that time we lost so many of our rights

[00:45:29] and you have to think was that the reason why 9-11 occurred?

[00:45:34] I know people don't wanna hear that

[00:45:35] and it's a tough subject for all, but you know.

[00:45:39] Guys, now come on, come on.

[00:45:41] 9-11 was not some conspiracy to load up

[00:45:45] those buildings with explosives.

[00:45:46] It was done by 19 craved jihadis

[00:45:50] that wanted to destroy the United States.

[00:45:53] Look, I think it's, what you see as a response,

[00:46:01] 2-9-11 when the unconventional warfare

[00:46:06] part of the CIA stepped forward

[00:46:08] and they did a very effective, very decisive fight

[00:46:12] against the Taliban and they largely crushed them

[00:46:17] in a matter of two months.

[00:46:19] And then when the conventional Pentagon got involved,

[00:46:23] they repeated the same Soviet battle plan

[00:46:26] for the next 19 and a half years.

[00:46:28] And that was not some grand conspiracy

[00:46:30] that was Shia-Zilla's conspiracy of big Pentagon spending

[00:46:33] and the money, the promotion chain

[00:46:36] for all those flag officers involved into the relevant.

[00:46:40] And so that's, you know, when the neocon argument

[00:46:44] talked about nation building Afghanistan,

[00:46:46] instead of treating it like a Roman style,

[00:46:50] Scipio-Africanist punitive raid to go in and kill

[00:46:55] every Taliban, every al-Qaeda within site or reach,

[00:47:00] no quarter given, including in the tribal areas

[00:47:03] of Pakistan and then left and say,

[00:47:05] okay, we killed a lot this time.

[00:47:07] We're gonna come back and kill three times as many next time

[00:47:09] if we have to come back.

[00:47:11] That's how it should have been conducted.

[00:47:13] But no, we did a nation building exercise

[00:47:16] which took 20 years, multiple trillions of dollars,

[00:47:20] and we removed the Taliban from power

[00:47:22] only to be displaced by the Taliban again.

[00:47:27] And no one, and that's the other,

[00:47:29] the failing of America right now is the lack of accountability

[00:47:33] for people in positions of responsibility

[00:47:35] that utterly and totally fail.

[00:47:40] You know, I saw an interesting interview

[00:47:42] and I think I mentioned it to you in DM.

[00:47:43] Eric, Sean Ryan had a guy that goes by a handle

[00:47:46] on X of legend and he talked about Afghanistan

[00:47:50] and obviously he's on the ground,

[00:47:52] seemed to have a lot of information.

[00:47:53] I don't know if you had a chance

[00:47:54] to catch that interview or not,

[00:47:56] but I think it's what you just said is really compelling.

[00:47:59] My problem is it has all the appearances

[00:48:01] of being intentional because common sense,

[00:48:04] Eric Prince is available to advise the US government

[00:48:07] obviously has a lot of experience and a lot of knowledge,

[00:48:10] but it doesn't seem like it works like that.

[00:48:11] It seems like big government,

[00:48:12] this expansion past the specific 17 subject matters

[00:48:16] that our government is supposed to have

[00:48:18] and have the ability to enforce through the constitution.

[00:48:21] It just continues to go beyond that scope.

[00:48:23] So you see this kind of the way they're operating

[00:48:26] out of the country in this,

[00:48:28] I wanna call nonstop wars obviously

[00:48:31] during Trump's administration, we didn't have that.

[00:48:34] But now here we are again in multiple non-kinetic

[00:48:37] and kinetic events around the world.

[00:48:40] It just seems like it's intentional.

[00:48:41] I don't know how to call it anything but that.

[00:48:43] I agree with you, but here's the question.

[00:48:45] I mean, General Flynn is saying virtually

[00:48:47] the same things that you are saying, Eric

[00:48:49] and look what they did to Flynn.

[00:48:50] So where are we when people stand up is the real problem?

[00:48:57] Look, I'm close enough to it.

[00:49:02] I see people in Washington.

[00:49:05] I know the practitioners on the field of battle

[00:49:09] that were very effective after 9-11.

[00:49:12] And then I see the, I was a contractor there

[00:49:16] all over Afghanistan.

[00:49:17] It was not a conspiracy of evil to perpetuate

[00:49:21] from the war from some grand plan.

[00:49:24] No, it's a conspiracy of stupidity

[00:49:27] of people had being totally, totally ignorant of history,

[00:49:31] totally ignorant of what works in those societies

[00:49:36] and how to influence and dominate populations.

[00:49:41] We sent generals there and generals want to dominate terrain

[00:49:47] because they think only in military terms

[00:49:50] instead of thinking how do we dominate

[00:49:54] and rebuild the society?

[00:49:56] Because through a general, their money comes from Congress

[00:50:00] from an appropriation.

[00:50:02] Any businessman, any normal person

[00:50:04] knows that they have to create enough value somehow

[00:50:08] whether it's your trade or mining

[00:50:11] or natural resource extraction or manufacturing

[00:50:14] or farming to sell a product,

[00:50:16] to make money to employ people to continue the cycle.

[00:50:21] General stuff like that.

[00:50:24] And so when I even ask US officials for 20 years

[00:50:29] if they've read anything of how the East India Company

[00:50:31] operated right next door

[00:50:34] and just complete dumb faces.

[00:50:38] And so that we, the United States government

[00:50:42] is an awful nation building entity at this point.

[00:50:48] And we should acknowledge that.

[00:50:49] And so the tens of billions of dollars

[00:50:52] that are wasted in aid programs

[00:50:54] and all the sort of nonsense

[00:50:55] have absolutely, and in fact the United States

[00:50:59] effectively has a fire hose of cash

[00:51:02] which got a posh falls on a lot of, I would say

[00:51:07] small weeds of corruption which become large trees,

[00:51:10] a complete corruption where we go.

[00:51:12] So you know what?

[00:51:14] Just stop spending the money.

[00:51:17] They meant that-

[00:51:17] Do you think we can put the fives of seven or two?

[00:51:19] Business of America should be business.

[00:51:21] Yeah, so-

[00:51:22] Go ahead Eric.

[00:51:23] Business of America should be business, not trade,

[00:51:25] sorry, not foreign aid

[00:51:28] and not pervasive military presence everywhere.

[00:51:32] And look, the American, the Republic will be healthier

[00:51:40] when we pair our government,

[00:51:41] especially the federal government way back down the side.

[00:51:44] The reason state governments live with other means

[00:51:47] is because they cannot print money.

[00:51:50] Amen to that.

[00:51:51] Do you think it's possible to put the fives of seven

[00:51:53] or two spying belligerence of our government

[00:51:55] taking authority where there was none of the first places?

[00:51:58] Is there any way to put that genie back in the bottle?

[00:51:59] Do you think, Eric?

[00:52:01] Well, I have to tell you guys,

[00:52:04] I had great frustrations with the pervasive security state

[00:52:08] for many years.

[00:52:10] And after the 2020 election

[00:52:13] in a angry phone call between a friend of mine,

[00:52:16] we were seeing what big tech

[00:52:19] and big government were doing on free speech

[00:52:24] and certain platforms and all the rest.

[00:52:26] And I said, listen, we're never gonna fix this

[00:52:28] unless we, by complaining about it,

[00:52:31] we need to build a competitive product

[00:52:33] that they cannot cancel.

[00:52:35] And so we had a team together

[00:52:37] already doing a cyber unlock and we pivoted,

[00:52:40] we literally changed the business plan overnight

[00:52:42] and said, we're gonna build our own phone

[00:52:45] completely independent of the Google or Apple universe

[00:52:49] that will run on regular networks

[00:52:51] with our own app store,

[00:52:53] with thousands of compatible apps

[00:52:58] to include messenger, VPN, anti-virus,

[00:53:02] focused on privacy and security.

[00:53:05] And we've done that now.

[00:53:06] So that's called an unplugged phone.

[00:53:10] It's what I'm calling you on right now.

[00:53:13] The difference is an unplugged phone

[00:53:15] does not have an advertising ID.

[00:53:18] So you probably don't know,

[00:53:19] your audience might not know what an advertising idea is,

[00:53:21] but it's like a 25 digit alpha numeric number,

[00:53:27] kind of a digital mark of the beast

[00:53:29] that sits on your device,

[00:53:31] that is put there by Google and Apple

[00:53:33] to interact with all the apps sitting on your phone.

[00:53:38] And that alpha numeric code

[00:53:41] enables the phone to monitor where you go,

[00:53:45] what you buy, who you call and what you browse.

[00:53:48] It allows even more interaction with apps

[00:53:51] to turn on the microphone, to turn on the camera,

[00:53:53] to turn on the GPS of your phone when you don't know it.

[00:53:57] I've had many people I've talked to you about our phone

[00:53:59] say yeah, I was talking to my wife last night

[00:54:03] in the bedroom about needing a new mattress

[00:54:06] and the next day we're getting advertising for mattresses.

[00:54:11] Now that's really-

[00:54:12] All right, we're flat out of time this hour,

[00:54:14] ladies and gentlemen, Eric Prince,

[00:54:15] our guest he'll be with us

[00:54:17] as this interview continues for the next hour.

[00:54:19] It is George Valentin, Lance Miliaccio,

[00:54:22] Eric Prince and yours truly on your radio.

[00:54:24] Look, we're talking about unconstitutional

[00:54:27] big tech data collection

[00:54:30] all enabled by deep state enactment

[00:54:34] and expansion of 702 FISA.

[00:54:37] I'm calling it crimes against the American people,

[00:54:40] ladies and gentlemen, we better hold them accountable.

[00:54:42] We the people have greater numbers.

[00:54:44] We can peacefully do this if we all stand together.

[00:54:48] I am Sam Bushman, Liberty Roundtable.