Radio Show Hour 1 – 07/30/2024

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[00:01:09] that wide audience talking about things that matter in your life. This is the broadcast form July 30th in the air of our Lord, 2020. 4 Welcome to the show. Hope you are all doing absolutely fantastic as you know our goal to promote God, family and

[00:01:27] country and to protect life, liberty and property and to help people everywhere do the same thing. Welcome to the broadcast. We have got a special guest today. His name is Michael Harrison. He is founder and president of Talkers Mag. He founded in print back in 1990.

[00:01:44] Now it is online, of course, as everything else is. Talkers.com, the website, just to make it simple for everyone. Talkers.com. Michael is a bunch of things. He is the founder of this great magazine that is relevant today if not more so than it was

[00:02:01] when it was founded over 34 years ago now. Wow, time flies when you are having fun, right? He is also a musician and I have got a personal kind of a claim that I am just shocked at who and what he is.

[00:02:15] We will get into that as the broadcast unfolds. Michael Harrison, welcome back to Liberty Round Table Life. I am at Squatje B with you. You do such great work. It is an honor to be at the Liberty Round Table with you.

[00:02:29] There is so much going on in the news. It is hard to ignore it but I want to. Because I want to talk about some things that are already in the history books. First, you talkers 24 radio and beyond conferences now in the history books.

[00:02:45] I can go on and I did a couple of days after I got back and I talked about some of the highlights and some of the great times we had and all that I was there in New York with you.

[00:02:55] But I want to know what you learned from the conference. You have been doing these for a long time. First, I would say maybe that it learned anything. But I know better from Michael. Well, I mean the whole idea is to learn.

[00:03:06] It is an environment where the movers and the shakers from behind the scenes and behind the microphones in talk media predominantly radio but also the other media that is an offshoot of radio in the digital era.

[00:03:22] It is an opportunity for people to put the partisan stuff aside and talk about our common interests as defenders of the first amendment and pervellers of the media. It is a business. It is a skill set and it is a sprint to keep up with the evolving technology.

[00:03:45] We have constant issues that we deal with that are inherent in the human condition in these changing times. We learn basically what I learned aside from how difficult it is putting a live conference on in 2024.

[00:03:57] I learned what is on the minds of a variety of people who make a difference in this industry. I do not presume to be a mind reader and to speak on anybody's behalf until I have done my research and it is sort of a collective pool of research.

[00:04:14] We find out where we are each at. It is a very interesting tradition. This particular conference is now just concluded it is 27th annual edition and I have been doing conferences, I have been doing conferences, organizing conferences in the radio industry all the way back to the 1970s.

[00:04:36] I love putting on events that bring together broadcasters, I love broadcasters, they are my people. I learned that it is probably more than anything. We can celebrate our differences, spend time together and have a great time doing it despite those differences.

[00:04:57] We can chastise each other a little bit justifiably so for digging in our perspective. When I say chastide, I might just be kind of, hey, step back and look at the whole world not just at your own kind of thing.

[00:05:11] We did so in kind of a laughing, tongue and cheek but yet educational way. That really impressed me and you have done that since the 70s. That is almost an impossible thing to accomplish Michael. Well, it is a matter of trying to connect the dots of commonality.

[00:05:28] What do people have in common is supposed to what is different? People in the broadcasting industry have a lot in common. It is a subculture. It is a historic scene. There are so many things that we all do that we understand how the other's feel, what it

[00:05:46] is like to put together a program, what it is like to be on the air, what it is like to expose yourself to criticism and to keep up with things and to make an argument and

[00:05:57] talking points and to hone your skills and to be out there in the real world selling and marketing and writing advertising and promoting. I mean, it is so much more to it than just I am the world's smartest person and here's my opinion.

[00:06:14] I'm the talk show host, so listen to me because I know it all right? Well, there is actually something about the process of going on the air every day and feeling an obligation to give your opinion on everything as it is fast-breaking news.

[00:06:32] There is something very, very arrogant about that. There is something very egotistical and even narcissistic about that. So one thing is not to be a little bit that way to even make it right? That's the point. So the key is how do you control it?

[00:06:51] How do you have the confidence to do that without the arrogance of actually believing that you always know the answer is just because you're you and you've got this core audience that loves what you do and says everything you do is wonderful.

[00:07:08] Nothing, everything, you know how we do is wonderful. We're now always right. And there's a big difference between setting out to deceive or just simply earnestly being wrong. We have it right to be wrong. That's part of free speech.

[00:07:24] We don't have the moral right to specifically set out to deceive under the protection of the first amendment. I also don't have the right. We also don't have the right to make it personal and to use unrelated personal things that destroy rather than stake out a viewpoint.

[00:07:46] Because we're all human and you want to have negative politics, you want to have negative battles of ideas in the marketplace of ideas. Well, you're going to be able to do that with anybody and it's going to happen to you.

[00:07:58] You live by that sword you die by that sword. We are all human. So one of the things that I'm what am I personal missions is without watering down the potency of the first amendment and the vibrancy of good debate is to stop with this low bar

[00:08:14] of name calling and mud slinging and BS because that's going to degrade us all. And it's going to not only ruin our platform, but it's going to ruin our democracy. And you did that very well.

[00:08:29] You had a left right if you will or conservative liberal debate between a couple of hosts Tom Hartman believe it or not. I've been in his studio and been with him and he's been on my show and everything else.

[00:08:39] And I'm actually more aligned with the conservative side than I am his side. But he's very good at that too. And that liberal conservative debate we all got a great laugh out of it really even though some brilliant points were made. It didn't go personal.

[00:08:54] It was a lot of fun and it was done by experts. Yeah, and it's interesting to see what the spectrum of ideas happens to be. You see I'm I'm a believer in philosophy and to a certain degree. I respect Eastern philosophy with the yen and the ang.

[00:09:12] See my personal belief is you cannot have a right unless you have a left. You can't have an outside unless you have an inside. You can't have a white if you don't have a black. You can't have an out if you don't have a down.

[00:09:24] So I always tell my conservative friends and I tell my liberal friends, if suddenly let's say conservatives, tell my conservative friends, it's suddenly every liberal in the United States suddenly left the planet and the only people left are people who pull themselves conservatives.

[00:09:39] It would take about five minutes before there was the liberal wing of the conservatives that were left. Well, you see that you see that in both parties right now to make your point really right exactly.

[00:09:50] So we have to have an underlying respect for the yen and the ang. We have to have an underlying respect that the human condition is based upon balancing these different in some cases, extremes and in some cases minor nuances that are different.

[00:10:08] But to think that my ideology is the only one that's white and anybody who has the label of being on the other side is wrong. And now let's set out to find any let's cherry pick any piece of news gossip history or whatever to make them look bad.

[00:10:27] That is absolutely indiscillent. Alright ladies and gentlemen, hey, Mike Alheris and yours truly continue on Liberty Round Table Live. We're talking with a founder and president of Talkers Magazine Talkers.com. And by the way, we all hung out in the wonderful Mrs. Harrison really put together

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[00:11:58] Why don't we say to the government writ large that they have to spend a little bit less? Anybody ever had less money this year than you had last? Anybody ever have a 1% pay cut? You deal with it. That's what government needs, a 1% pay cut.

[00:12:13] If you take a 1% pay cut across the board, you have more than enough money to actually pay for the disaster relief. But nobody's going to do that because they're fiscalier responsible. Who are they? Republicans, who are they Democrat?

[00:12:27] Who are they virtually the whole body is careless and reckless with your money? So the money will mop the offset by cuts anywhere. The money will be added to the debt and there will be a day of reckoning. What's the day of reckoning?

[00:12:42] The day of reckoning may well be the collapse of the stock market. The day of reckoning may be the collapse of the dollar. When it comes, I can't tell you exactly but I can tell you it has happened repeatedly in history when countries ruin their currency.

[00:13:08] With news, the networks refuse to use. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Alright, back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, Michael Harris and with me, founder and president of Talkers.com, talkers, 2024 radio and beyond conference. It's in the history books.

[00:13:27] I was there, it was incredible. Not only did we have a left right debate, so to speak, very entertaining. They did a good job. They didn't get all offended and melt down or anything. They're stuck around the dirt.

[00:13:39] They all really enjoyed it and a lot of great points were made. The other interesting thing is a Latino gentleman, broadcastard got up and really talked about the landscape of the future. Michael, do you want to speak to that? I thought that was very educational.

[00:13:54] Well, we had, I think you're referring to Rich Valdez who, um, Mr. Pistigian Bohannon on the Westwood One Radio Network with a night program, America at night. He talked about the changing demographics of the nation in general that people in the

[00:14:10] broadcast industry have to be aware of in terms of age and gender and ethnicity. And we definitely, you know, we can complain all we want, whatever we is about the people but the fact of the matter is this is the reality that the United States faces and we've

[00:14:28] got to get used to it and it ain't even that bad. I'm not referring to any specific group. I'm just saying the other, we have to learn to listen to the other because that's what America has been about.

[00:14:39] We also had one of the leading African-American broadcasters, Travis Smiley who is back in radio in a big way with a Los Angeles AM radio station and he talked about the African-American experience and how that plays into the national media scene. So we had traditional liberals, traditional conservatives.

[00:15:00] We had white, we had black, we had male, we had female. We had, and we had sports and we had, you know, it first heard from me as the publisher of talkers when people start to see or think or need jerk to the term talk radio

[00:15:16] and they immediately think of just one kind of radio, the one that they listen to or the one that they don't like. And I realize that the radio dial is alive and well with all kinds of programming their

[00:15:29] health shows, their financial shows, their gardening shows, cooking shows, religious shows and technology. Yeah, I mean of course, let's go on talking to and it must frustrate you when people say a technology show on talk radio isn't that all politics and isn't it all conservative politics? Well no.

[00:15:53] And when people ask me the question, why are we conservative, so big and talk radio conservative talk radio is a format, it's a big format. It turns out to go with a talent-wise and where there's a need but I don't know if

[00:16:04] they're not liberals on the radio, what about public radio? We just don't like to call it liberal radio because they don't like to call it liberal radio but they're liberal and again back to the beginning and the end compared to the Washington bus. I am.

[00:16:17] Of course it's okay that they are. Wouldn't you as a conservative talk show host which you are? Don't get feel better about being a conservative talk show host knowing that your brand of radio is not stifling other people's views on this wonderful platform called radio.

[00:16:36] Don't you get to understand about it? The liberals on radio quite a bit on purpose to get their perspective on things because I feel like I'm educated then if I don't, I feel like I'm in a vacuum.

[00:16:45] Yeah and you're preaching to the choir and you're living in a bubble universe and eventually time marches on and you're left in your obsolete bubble because things change. I mean I'm going through a change right now my main political platform has always been

[00:17:02] supporting and educating people about the first amendment. I believe that the first amendment is the ultimate foundation upon which American freedom, democracy, liberty whatever you want to use the term and our way of life it's built upon

[00:17:18] the first amendment of freedom of speech, freedom to not be regulated by the government as to what you say or to be chastised or censured or jailed or anything of that nature. But I'm starting to think now that things are changing so much that freedom of speech

[00:17:35] may not be the only major consideration for freedom and that perhaps privacy is as big as you get, not bigger and the thing that I worry most about in terms of the evolving technology this is right up your as a political guy and a technology guy.

[00:17:54] I know this is right up your alley. The evolving technology is taking away our privacy on a level that there's no there's no putting the tooth taste back in the tube there's no way you can't you can't live off the grid.

[00:18:10] I mean you want to avoid the tyranny of the grid, well live off the grid. Well yeah that means you can't make a living you can't do business you can't to partake in any of the things that the modern technological world can provide you have

[00:18:27] to give up your privacy and if you give up your privacy even the first amendment isn't going to help you so that's a big big issue and further your point of my call it applies

[00:18:38] to everyone black white male female liberal consumative we all have the same concern with that because it depends on who controls the tech on what they may do with it. They can either realize tech's neither good nor evil and use it hopefully in their hearts

[00:18:53] or good you know well intent if you will but it all depends on who's in control of it at the time as we've seen over the last several election cycles and I don't want

[00:19:03] to take this into an election necessarily but my point is you know that pendulum swings and you're going to get hit by it yeah yeah and anything controlled by human beings has the potential for corruption well what's at Shakespeare absolute power corrupts absolutely

[00:19:21] big anything is dangerous big government is dangerous we all know that but so is big business dangerous and sometimes the remedy to big businesses big government and big religion is dangerous and big fuck is dangerous big pharma is dangerous big anything is dangerous because what's the

[00:19:38] common denominator of all organizations there run by people human beings when given power must be watched over carefully by other human beings you got that right in fact Michael in talkers

[00:19:57] dot com you can go find this off the click the older stories because a couple of days ago and there's so many entries that end up on talkers you got to watch it fast but he created an article

[00:20:10] it's not really an article even almost and this is what's interesting about Michael too he manages to to paint the picture of a thousand words with only a few words it's very interesting but it says this we're in the golden age of commentary Michael Harrison talkers dot com

[00:20:27] he wrote it July 22nd 2024 and talkers publisher Michael Harrison describes the present non stop news cycle as a new golden age of commentary I find that interesting because it is it doesn't stop anymore Michael now it doesn't stop the aforementioned impulse to tell people

[00:20:48] what you think has been institutionalized down to everybody's a commentator now everybody our audience has an audience and its audience has an audience audiences have audiences and everybody's in show business and everybody's concerned about the ratings of their platform

[00:21:06] whatever it may be just simply you know like me follow me you know click on me you know subscribe to me this is something that most people didn't walk around thinking about the past year as it was just people and you know newspaper writers column this television radio

[00:21:24] reporters and commentators but now everybody is in on it it's a golden age of commentary everybody has an opinion it just like everybody has a you know what and it comes with the tremendous

[00:21:39] amount of intrigue you know what is the result of all of this and you know how does one act responsibly to somebody mousing off on Facebook or mousing off on X have the same level of

[00:21:52] responsibility to be truthful and to try to be productive and to avoid seeking victory at the expense of truth as somebody who gets paid a lot of money on a big platform and what kind of

[00:22:06] answers they should right of course of course they should and what is a big platform today you know Sam when people talk about you know the legacy media or the mainstream media or the corporate

[00:22:18] media is it it's bigger than the alternative media we live in a time when those terms are obsolete there's just the media you have the major league media imitating the minor league media and you have the minor league media gaining collective power and influence that can't help

[00:22:36] but influence reality there's no strata of you know ABC and BC CBS a big the New York times these are just different little pieces of a fractured pie that has a whole different set of measurements

[00:22:53] than we are used to dealing with so when I hear people talk about the mainstream media who's mainstream media to me everything is part of the time to be talking to Carlson and Joe Rogan right

[00:23:05] right like you know there are people on Facebook who have larger audiences on Facebook than traditional radio and television stations and newspapers that are out there in our society there are people with more influence on YouTube then major

[00:23:27] licensed media that we call radio and television and you know the rules expanding too with all these new terms and new capabilities that we didn't have before Michael continues as radio stations networks TV channels online platforms and they face another weekend of news you know for example

[00:23:51] Joe Biden said I'm out on Sunday so you know it's becoming 24 seven news cycle so not only we expanded in the number of channels that used to be when I was a kid you put up the rabbit ears

[00:24:02] and he had three channels you know black right right and now hey I don't even know how you know you go on one platform and there's a thousand channels and it's a whole thing of change that's

[00:24:13] never ending I don't think it's gonna stop I think it's just gonna continue exponentially to increase right there's no question the only way to stop is that we stopped at by some kind of disaster now it's

[00:24:24] gonna increase and the question becomes well AI bots with certain voices like Siri have her own channel what the heck's gonna happen there was once upon a time when summer and weekends and some of these

[00:24:36] things were kind of like all right let's take a breather and reset no longer okay so we'll talk about it seconds with Michael Harris on your radio pro claiming liberty across the land you're listening to

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[00:29:46] personally the solution to so many of our problems and all times in in all places is to fall in love get married and have some kids Michael Harris and with me ladies and gentlemen

[00:30:10] talkers dot com wow we're on the goldnage of commentary and the news cycles speeding up not only is it 24 seven the amount of content being produced audio video means i don't even know

[00:30:27] is exponentially increasing in your ad tech you add a either that I don't even know how much of it can be consumed Michael well it can't all be consumed by anyone person but collectively we have

[00:30:43] access to a tremendous amount of information it's up to each and every one of us individually to to use it wisely to use this asset wisely we don't always do that some of us are addicted to

[00:30:57] it and overly consume it we we don't know when to stop we have to filter it out as well as take it all in but the impact on a nervous system is the the impact on a neurology the way we're wired

[00:31:10] as a species is going through major change and understand not only is the news cycle intensifying as you've described but our methods of using the technology is changing the the technology that we now consider to be so ultra modern ten years from now we'll see clunky

[00:31:29] our smart phones will seem clunky our laptops will seem clunky many of the platforms that separate one organization from another one medium from another will meld into a seamless non stop

[00:31:44] stream of information that will go directly this is where i'm going to get a little woo boo on you they're going to go directly into our brains there's no yes all right so you know i'm happy

[00:31:58] that you're not rolling you know your eyes I'm going to all this guys nuts um i'm a little scared of how's going to go down but it's going to go down that's preserve yeah and so remember i said

[00:32:07] a few minutes ago that the biggest threat to our uh freedom is our privacy the loss of privacy when the technology invades our consciousness where there's no longer a piece of hardware but the software goes directly into our brains which is that's going to be a computerization

[00:32:28] well then the question is going to be have we not only lost our freedom but have we lost our humanity will will the old issue of our ua democrat or republican left or right

[00:32:42] a male or a female um younger old will those seem quaint and will the new argument will be are you a human we already see signs of it you go to a website says are you a robot

[00:32:57] are you a human and it'll also be this too are you just an unplugged human right well an unplugged human is going to be a person who's at a great disadvantage what do you do

[00:33:12] when all the people in your business have the chip in their head and are able to access endless information instantly by pushing their nose or or doing some type of numerical past code in their

[00:33:23] head and uh have every talking points on every side of every issue ready to go and um everybody that they see in their eyes uh in their site they already know everything about them

[00:33:35] they have a biography on every human being that they look at and everything how do you compete against that if you're an unplugged human so yeah they'll find me up I want the chip too I want

[00:33:46] to just be a new world is what we're talking about ladies and gentlemen it'll be very strange it's going to happen hopefully we can all sit at the table as it goes down to make sure that we

[00:34:00] put guardrails in place you know that's where I want to sit I want to be the guy that says hey let's let's do this right let's bring you know calm heads to the table let's bring all aspects of you

[00:34:12] know knowledge of different people different perspectives let's make sure we consider that let's do it right what we don't want to do is let technology gets so far ahead of uh regulation

[00:34:22] and I'm not a big government guy by the way but I do understand the proper role in the necessity of some guiderails and some levers uh to where um you know hey we got to make sure that we keep

[00:34:33] up on this thing as it goes down that's my big prayer Michael and and and it's really going to be a very big challenge it's almost impossible to do what you're saying but we have to try

[00:34:43] but um unfortunately and again back to old fashion freedom of speech guys like me first amendment guys like me um we we have to and fringe on first amendment right so little bit to protect

[00:34:55] our survival that's a you're right I know very true embossed the law I don't know if you read boss days the law it's a book it's written you know in the 1800s or 1700s or whatever and

[00:35:09] it highlights that you've got to give up a little liberty to create this collective and I'm you know those of you listening to me don't think I believe in a big old collective liberal thing

[00:35:18] that's not true but look there is a collective reality and you have to give up a little bit of liberty to maximize liberty according to boss DA and the law and you're merely pointing out the

[00:35:27] same principle it's the same thing yes it's universal I often tell my um my orthodox libertarian friends I say there's only one problem with your philosophy I agree with everything about it because

[00:35:39] what is that Michael I go well a lot of people don't deserve it a lot of people don't deserve it because they're you know yeah they don't use a wise no they don't respect other people's

[00:35:49] liberty they it's that for such right right think about that did you know frustrating that reality is frustrating that is it's frustrating it's overwhelming but it is reality and reality is things

[00:36:04] as they really are and we must deal with it right that's the bottom line Michael Michael if you woman is not only a philosopher not only a leader of a great magazine not only a fun guy to be around

[00:36:17] but he's also as I mentioned at the start of the show he is a musician and he's in a band called Gunhill Road he's the member Michael Harrison and he's embarking up on an obsolete

[00:36:30] slob's me a door and so he's kind of fun and he knows how to bring tongue in cheek to real issues of the day and and he manages to be tongue in cheek and fun but he also manages to dig in

[00:36:43] to the controversy and the controversies and the complications that we're discussing right now Michael how did you come up with the idea for this song we're about to talk about well well the obsolete slob says that line in the song it says you know well never get bored

[00:36:59] it's a double-edged sword we might lose our jobs become obsolete slob's and that is funny but it's not funny the idea song is called the song is called artificial intelligence and the

[00:37:12] subtitle is no rob no robots were injured in the production of this song it's a group Gunhill Road my co-members it's a four it's a four man group the groups been around in one former

[00:37:25] another since the late 60s we're talking about half a century a music from this group and lately we had a resurgence of popularity because of the internet and talk radio talk radio plays are

[00:37:38] on this is kind of funny we're a musical group for talk radio because the words are provocative but Steve Goldrich Paul Reich Brian Cooley and Michael Harrison I like to get credit to all

[00:37:49] the members because we are a democracy and the quickest way to destroy a group is for one member to take credit for being its creative force I did not come up with this idea by myself we

[00:38:01] are a collaborating group and it's a lot of fun we came up with this because artificial intelligence is a nature issue right now and we deal with it we deal with a lot of topics people are

[00:38:14] interested go to gunhillroadmusic.com we have a bunch of music videos and it's a lot of fun but we came up with the idea just in conversation about artificial intelligence and we put together

[00:38:29] this song and this video and thousands of people around the world are getting inspired by it and amused by it getting a kick out of it I don't know it's entertainment I guess on a certain

[00:38:43] level but it's also a foot stutter. It is and I want to mention one other aspect you know it used to be the way you could get the base the drums you know a singer and you know guitar,

[00:38:54] keyboards or whatever and you're good to go now because of video because of the new media taking center stage and everything else as we've highlighted already though now you're going to have

[00:39:02] kind of a digital guy put it all together and do the video and do the that guy gets credit too right yeah Matthew B. Harrison who happens to be my son but he's also a genius and he's a an attorney

[00:39:13] he's an expert on internet property intellectual property rather and he's a technician he's been around radio and television since he's a baby he is our video producer doesn't have anything to do

[00:39:31] with the music itself he produces the visuals that that go with it our visuals are highly computerized highly a blend of you know good old organic visuals analog visuals, pictures and artificial

[00:39:49] but our music stand is completely old school people say hey would you get those tracks as it carry out the you know would you get that horn section it's all real there's no artificial

[00:40:02] synthesizers or if you hear strings they're real if you hear horns they're real but the cars are real the music is real the visuals are wild. Well and now we're talking about a blend and I think

[00:40:17] this is how we can approach tech as it comes along you know how do we stay in charge of it a lot of people are afraid that it's going to take over and well I think this is kind of a key of staying

[00:40:28] in charge of it to say hey let's make sure one of the things I talk about in my technology talk show is hey we want technology to serve us not on us I've changed my mind let's go ahead and skip this break

[00:40:40] we've got too much to talk about ladies and gentlemen this is important we want to take the service not on us it's kind of the point and I think there's a magic to that saying let's keep

[00:40:49] tech in its place it's incredible but let's not lose the humanity that we have over it right well I said before we're going to lose our humanity we're going to have a new humanity because

[00:40:59] obviously what what constitutes humanity is not written in stone it's one generation to the next to the next to the next I mean there was a time when people are on humanity right look there

[00:41:10] maybe you just said something that's an ultimate truth maybe the definition of humanity is much greater than we who are so in love with our current culture are we all right yeah the way we know

[00:41:24] right we do we think it ought to be right right and we're in each other's faces how we should live and and you're not a good distance you're not a good bat and you're you know all of this you know

[00:41:36] thick in our noses in each other's business because we're such a social animal you know human beings are both social creature and fierce individualists and we have to make that work somehow we're dependent on

[00:41:48] each other we care what each other does we tell each other what to do but we don't want anybody telling us what to do when we want to be individuals wow that's a paradox that's a condon drum that's

[00:41:58] every word you can think of that indicates something that's not clear so what well ultimately it's ignorant in ridiculous right well ultimately you got to have a hold on and to never let

[00:42:10] go and to say that Sam knows or that world you know the world according to Sam or whatever you have put in some blood we're so quick to to make our culture whatever it is our ethnic culture

[00:42:24] our national culture our religious culture our local culture our temporal culture we we we we make this so important we're so married to what we consider to be our culture but we can't change we can't we can't stop

[00:42:39] the change rather of our culture so what you said before is brilliant the evolution of humanity is our humanity and we've got to learn to on one level love and respect our culture and preserve

[00:42:52] and protect it but not let it own us we have to not be afraid to go to the next level and this is a local culture of this is you know if you don't even learn to listen to your children's

[00:43:04] generations music you're out of touch and about one generation so one of the ways that I try to keep up and keep this in mind as I try to listen to my children's music when I hear it at first I go

[00:43:15] this is trash then I go down in a way to see now Sam's trapped in his own stupidity and I listen a little bit longer before you know it I find myself singing along Michael I really do

[00:43:27] mm-hmm so much of what we consider to be good or bad to be art or or unartistic has to do with our own subjective lives at the time we hear it or taste it you know it's like I call it the

[00:43:39] favorite pizza syndrome if you ask anybody what's the best pizza ever had they'll always say they usually will say it was from this pizza joint that was in the neighborhood they grew up in

[00:43:49] there you know my pizza pizza Michael all right listen Michael makes fun of this reality we're talking about he does so in a very meaningful provocative fun but truly thought provoking educational way here's the song from gun hill road music dot com let's go ahead

[00:44:22] all men persons uh highly intelligent beings are created equal they're endowed by their creator creators with certain unalienable rights among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness we hold these truths to be self evidence self evidence is anything so evident anymore

[00:44:56] what the hell is going on it's mind bodily leave you don't know who I can trust the deception too much who was very really everything that I read is overwhelmingly fake we got to slam on the

[00:45:28] brace world's philic too fast I don't see how we can last let's all take us back way too much through a back I wish that we could revert to a time wave back when

[00:45:42] but that home happened again all the future judges that is a smart busy real fake I can tell you are the official intelligence let's talk about real this great is gone off of rails you are the Trump a real self driving cars A special recognition. A special recognition.

[00:46:16] A-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I. Humanoid robots. Shadow bearing. Deep learning. The hallucination. I just will never get bored, but it's a double-lessort. We might lose our jobs, become obsolete stars. Facial recognition is a big incosition. The thaw of defense really gives me the shapes.

[00:47:00] The manipulation of that's the way that we interact. Is lacking human design, with real and of revault decline. And now that we're hurting to this digital world There is an a half, there's no turning back Artificial intelligence, that is so smart Isn't real a fake?

[00:47:24] I can tell them a heart Artificial intelligence, let's all get real This dream is drawn off the rails Keep us in control Are you real? Cocknitch is computing Mark language model Digital AI AI AI AI AI AI What's the AI AI AI AI AI AI AI

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[00:49:10] and advancement if we embrace it right Michael. I agree with you. How could I possibly disagree? I am not a prophet of doom. I am also optimistic, but you know even positive change creates cultural

[00:49:28] pain. And we have to just get used to the idea that we're on an incredible journey philosophically religiously, spiritually and in terms of our feet right down to earth on this planet.

[00:49:43] We've got to put it all together and make it work but I love your attitude and I share it. It's not a given, but it certainly is something that is getable and that's what we should be focusing on the positive and taking control of our fate.

[00:49:58] It's a hope, but it's also me in my life saying I'm going to take responsibility for it and contribute what I can. And then I'm going to leave the rest up to humanity up to God up to whatever outside

[00:50:12] realities there are and have some trust in them as well because you can't run around not trusting anybody. You just can't let it go. So I'm going to do all that I can do and then I'm going to leave it to the rest with hope.

[00:50:25] I think that you have a very positive message and I agree with you completely. I'm inspired by your attitude, Sam, I think it's something that deserves to be heard by a lot of people. I'm glad you're doing what you're doing.

[00:50:39] But we've also heard whenever there's a new big change right? You know moving from the industrial aid to whatever and this and that we've always been told,

[00:50:50] oh my gosh, it's going to be the end of the world. Something's going to, you know, TV is going to replace radio. It's the end of the world or this and that's going to happen. The sky is falling and chicken little everywhere and it's never happened.

[00:51:00] We've learned to embrace it and adapt to it. I still listen old, tiradeo shows on the 40s of the 50s for hexaix and I love them. And I think people are starting to realize that it doesn't just supplant something entirely.

[00:51:13] Oh, it changes no question, but yet you know what? It's a new opportunity and a new solution and a new evolution that if embraced, we've got more in our fingertips of the history of the world of knowledge of former societies,

[00:51:29] the ability to delve into any aspect of any age we want to and this kind of stuff. I've talked to my kids last night around the dinner table where we were talking about some of this.

[00:51:38] And I mentioned to them, my son says to me, I wonder what things are going to be like in 20 years. And my son says, do you know what it's going to be like dad? And I said no, he says why not?

[00:51:50] I said because if I knew then it wouldn't be 20 years in the future. It'd be now that my wife says and would get rich. Exactly. We've known what horse to bet on. Oh, what's occupied? Yeah, no. Hindsight is 2020 vision.

[00:52:08] I just like to think of myself as a historian, not a merchant of nostalgia. Nostalgia is nice, but I don't want to get steeped in nostalgia. I could be pretty nostalgic. I've been around a long time and I played a lot of old rock and roll.

[00:52:22] So I know pop culture, but I prefer to think of myself as a historian with an eye on the future. And certainly the reality that we're always stuck in the present. We're going to be a good one.

[00:52:36] I think the best of all the past live in the present and plan for the future with hope in my heart. And that's what I hope to do. We also need to realize it's about people not things.

[00:52:48] No matter how our humanity changes, it's still about the people in your lives that matter. I agree. I agree. Very inspirational. You said very nice things about me, Sam, and I appreciate it. But Kudos back to you, you're a good man.

[00:53:03] And you are spreading a very positive message to people that are within the, as they say, the sound of your voice. I'm just a redneck on the radio trying to share my thoughts and hopes and dreams and ways that are meaningful and bring people together and give people.

[00:53:19] You know, when they get done listening to this show, I want them to be positive and feel like it's going to be a great day. I want them to be like, oh my gosh, the end of the world's happening. I want them to be like, you know what?

[00:53:30] I learned something today. I feel empowered. I feel hope. I feel optimism. I feel encouragement. And that's what I hope the broadcast does in everyone's life.

[00:53:41] Well, I think that you're succeeding and one of the things I think that sums it all up is clean up your own backyard as you point it out.

[00:53:51] You live your life, practice these things in terms of your life to people and your family, the people you work with, people you come across, you know, in day to day life. That's where you begin to make a better world in your own life.

[00:54:04] He can grow in practice what you preach ladies and gentlemen, talkers dot com, check it out also, gunhillroad music dot com. You can check out that incredible video on Tony the AI and it's amazing. Michael Harrison, thank you sir. We'll have you back soon. Thank you, Sam.

[00:54:20] Thank you, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, hard hitting talk at your fingertips always on your radio and sometimes the most hard hitting talk isn't so hard hitting because it makes you think. And when your life changes because you think, who that's hard hitting I'm telling you right now.

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