Radio Show Hour 1 – 11/19/2024

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[00:00:24] All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.

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[00:00:31] Hard-hitting news the network's refused to use, no doubt, starts now.

[00:00:35] This is the broadcast for November the 19th in the year of our Lord, 2024.

[00:00:41] The goal is to promote God, family, and country, and to protect life, liberty, and property.

[00:00:45] And the news on your radio in the traditions of our founding fathers.

[00:00:48] Sheriff Richard Mack with me, of course.

[00:00:51] Welcome back to the show, Sheriff Mack.

[00:00:53] Thanks, Sam. It's great to be with you this beautiful Tuesday morning.

[00:00:58] Man, without further ado, I want to introduce our guest.

[00:01:02] Well, Sam, we have one of the top sheriffs out of Florida with us today.

[00:01:07] He was at our Orlando CSPOA conference, and he spoke, and he has been working with his county to develop a constitutional county.

[00:01:19] And indeed, we believe that has taken place, and we want to hear the rest from him.

[00:01:25] Sheriff Eric Flowers from Indian River County, Florida.

[00:01:30] Sheriff, welcome to Liberty Roundtable, and thanks for being here.

[00:01:35] Hey, guys. Thank you so much for having me.

[00:01:37] It's a beautiful day here in Florida, and happy to be able to join you guys.

[00:01:41] Catch me up on this constitutional county idea real quick, Sheriff Flowers.

[00:01:46] Help me understand.

[00:01:47] When we say constitutional county, I just want to hear from sheriffs all across the country.

[00:01:51] What does that mean, sir?

[00:01:53] Yeah.

[00:01:53] Okay, so the idea here is that our Constitution was obviously the founding document of our country, and we've begun to stray.

[00:02:02] You know, our country has strayed so far from the ideas of our forefathers.

[00:02:07] And so it's a moment for us as a county to pause and go, hey, guys, this is the document that we make all of our judgments by.

[00:02:15] This is the document that is the guiding light for our decision-making in this country.

[00:02:20] And we as a county, we as a municipality recognize that, and we recognize the constitutional rights of our constituents as part of that.

[00:02:29] And really it all came about because Sheriff Mack was traveling the state, and he called up my phone.

[00:02:35] And I said, Sheriff, I'd love to meet you for breakfast.

[00:02:37] We met at a Cracker Barrel, and we started talking.

[00:02:39] And our county had actually already designated itself as a Second Amendment sanctuary county.

[00:02:46] And so I knew that there was already an appetite there for, you know, people want to know that their rights are protected, that their freedoms are protected.

[00:02:54] And so I proposed it to our county commission chair, and I worked with our taxpayers' association, which are good friends of ours as well.

[00:03:02] And in short order, it came together.

[00:03:04] We did a proclamation, and we were able to send that message out to our constituents.

[00:03:09] Sheriff Mack, there's your cue, sir.

[00:03:14] Well, I absolutely love that.

[00:03:19] I loved it that Virginia and Florida were doing the constitutional sanctuary for the Second Amendment, and it was a good starting point.

[00:03:30] But even back then, I said, why are we just doing the Second Amendment?

[00:03:34] All of them are under attack, especially with this administration.

[00:03:42] So Sheriff Flowers really took some leadership on this and made it happen.

[00:03:48] And have you heard anything, have you got any backlash, or have you heard that there's other counties that are starting to say, you know what, you're right.

[00:03:58] The Constitution is our founding document.

[00:04:00] Why aren't we paying more attention to it?

[00:04:02] What have you heard about this since you and the county did this proclamation?

[00:04:08] So the county to the north of us, Brevard County, has been asking some questions about how they go about doing what we did, which makes me feel good.

[00:04:16] Actually, I have friends in Brevard County.

[00:04:19] Sheriff Ivey, yes, and many of their county commissioners and constitutional officers seem to be interested in heading in that direction.

[00:04:28] So that's a good thing.

[00:04:28] As far as negative backlash, I got an email from some liberal professor somewhere in the Pacific Midwest sending some kind of nonsense.

[00:04:40] I never responded to any of it.

[00:04:42] It's all just drama and nonsense.

[00:04:45] And so I don't get caught up in that kind of thing.

[00:04:46] That stuff doesn't slow me down in any way.

[00:04:49] He doesn't think we should be focusing on the Constitution?

[00:04:52] What is his problem?

[00:04:53] I don't remember the specific questions, but they wanted to engage in the back and forth, and I just don't do that kind of stuff.

[00:04:59] You know, I do what's right, and I move on.

[00:05:01] And so, to be honest, I didn't even pay enough attention.

[00:05:04] I read it, realized that it was somebody that I was never going to see eye to eye with, and I just said, okay, you're not a local person.

[00:05:10] It doesn't matter to me.

[00:05:11] And so I moved on.

[00:05:12] Well, Sarah Flowers, let's talk about what is relevant then.

[00:05:15] You know, you were mentioning that, hey, we've kind of gone astray as a country from the Constitution.

[00:05:20] I couldn't agree more.

[00:05:22] However, what areas in which do you think that we need to kind of come back to the Constitution most related to?

[00:05:28] In other words, what areas do you guys feel like, hey, this is what we're going to be working on to make sure we're constitutional.

[00:05:33] These are the things that we're going to watch out for.

[00:05:35] Let's make it very constructive if this professor wants to listen so they can get a little bit of guidance, Sheriff.

[00:05:41] Well, I've got to tell you, you know, the amendments were put in order for a reason.

[00:05:45] And number one being free speech was very important to our forefathers.

[00:05:48] And free speech has been under attack for some time now.

[00:05:52] And I think this idea, you know, Elon Musk, free Twitter, X, whatever it is these days.

[00:05:59] You know, Trump has his truth social where you can openly post and not be worried about shadow banning.

[00:06:05] And I think our best movement as a country, and it's really not a local issue, but, you know, working with these tech giants to say, you know, we don't want people to be hampered in their free speech.

[00:06:21] Right.

[00:06:21] They should be able to do and say what it is that they feel.

[00:06:28] Sheriff Mack, they're there for a reason.

[00:06:30] So the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, what, they're to protect the first?

[00:06:35] Well, yes, of course.

[00:06:36] I believe that.

[00:06:37] Yes.

[00:06:38] Well, absolutely.

[00:06:39] You're absolutely correct, Sheriff.

[00:06:40] And there was quite a dichotomy in Florida.

[00:06:45] And I know you know who I'm talking about, but I won't mention his name.

[00:06:48] But there was a sheriff in Florida who actually arrested a pastor for having church during COVID.

[00:06:57] Isn't that a little bit extreme for a sheriff to do that?

[00:07:00] Shouldn't the sheriff be doing just the opposite, protecting the First Amendment freedom of religion?

[00:07:06] Without a doubt.

[00:07:07] I got to tell you, our local area, you know, as all that COVID nonsense was happening, not a single person got arrested.

[00:07:17] There was no local mask mandates.

[00:07:20] There was nothing that required people to, you know, do or be anything.

[00:07:26] We just kind of stayed out of everybody's business, which is ultimately the best form of government.

[00:07:30] And so I'm proud of the way our county handled it.

[00:07:34] I think there's a lot of other places that fumbled quite a bit.

[00:07:37] And I'm sure there are moments looking back where they kind of wish they could take back some of those things.

[00:07:42] But I got to tell you, you know, early on we initially got in front of it and we started looking into it.

[00:07:47] And before long we realized, yeah, this is not something that we need to be involved in.

[00:07:51] And so our county really stayed out of it.

[00:07:53] And I'm very proud of everyone here for the way that it was handled in our area.

[00:08:00] Well, that is good.

[00:08:01] And I know that most of you, the sheriffs there, were doing the right thing just following common sense, constitutional issues and civil rights.

[00:08:13] No government intrusion into our lives, no matter how important they think it is, supersedes our God-given rights.

[00:08:22] And whether or not we take a vaccine or wear a mask is a very personal choice, and that's just what it is.

[00:08:30] It's not just – I love what you just said.

[00:08:32] It's not the government's business.

[00:08:34] This isn't their business to take care of my health.

[00:08:37] They can teach, they can persuade, but they cannot force and they cannot arrest us for making our own medical choices.

[00:08:45] And even if they had passed legislation, wouldn't we still – I'm pretty sure I know your answer, but I'll just leave it to you.

[00:08:56] Shouldn't we even – even if there was a, quote, law saying that people had to wear a mask, wouldn't we not still stand against it and not enforce it?

[00:09:07] Well, of course.

[00:09:08] Yeah, our job is to protect people's constitutional rights.

[00:09:11] As a sheriff, you stand in a unique position where you stand with your constituents, where you stand with the Constitution, and when those things are all in a line, all is well.

[00:09:24] When you get somebody who starts to step outside of those bounds, it's challenging as a sheriff, as you know, Sheriff Mack.

[00:09:31] But the goal as a sheriff is to do the right thing every single time.

[00:09:35] And so your job is to protect those rights of your constituents and make sure that they are not being arrested and not being taken in for things that are in violation of our Constitution.

[00:09:47] Sheriff Flowers, one of the things I think you can do the most that relates to that is really focus on due process.

[00:09:54] And that's where I believe a lot of times we fall short, you know, from the general government all the way down to local government, whatever you want to say.

[00:10:01] Whereas oftentimes we kind of skip due process.

[00:10:04] The IRS says, hey, Sam's guilty.

[00:10:06] Nobody looks at it.

[00:10:07] They just run roughshod over me, the judge, jury, and executioner kind of thing.

[00:10:10] And I think due process is one of the great keys that sheriffs can do.

[00:10:14] Hey, we're not picking sides in any discussion here.

[00:10:17] We're just making sure that the law is being followed, that, hey, everybody, including government, is, you know, checking the boxes of due process, letting me have my day in court, letting me face my accuser,

[00:10:27] letting me get the evidence to defend myself, making sure that all, you know, all the I's are dotted, T's are crossed.

[00:10:34] And isn't that a critical component to focus on?

[00:10:37] It is.

[00:10:38] And, you know, in Florida, as a constitutional sheriff, my responsibilities are obviously policing the unincorporated areas of Indian River County,

[00:10:46] but also safety and security of the courts, serving paperwork, rents, all the things that come along with it, as well as running our county jail.

[00:10:54] And, you know, here in Florida, we actually have seven sheriffs that don't run their jail.

[00:10:59] And, you know, back in 2018, we passed Amendment 10 in Florida, which basically said that we as Floridians believe that every constitutional office should be elected because folks in Miami-Dade, those were all appointed positions.

[00:11:13] So for the first time since the 60s, in January, we will see a sheriff seated in Miami-Dade.

[00:11:19] We have 67 counties in Florida, 66 of them had elected sheriffs.

[00:11:24] Effective January, what is it, 6th, I think we get sworn in, we will have 67 sheriffs for the first time since the 60s.

[00:11:32] And that's a huge thing.

[00:11:33] And I really don't understand it.

[00:11:35] I've questioned it for many years about how the other sheriffs that do this, you know, are basically kind of sloughing off a constitutional responsibility.

[00:12:11] I get it.

[00:12:13] The un-elected bureaucrats and things happening that are just not good.

[00:12:17] So in my purview, I think that, you know, elected law enforcement is the way that it always should be.

[00:12:25] I mean, Sheriff Mack, when you had me come speak in Orlando, one of the things that I spoke about, I kind of get up on my soapbox about, but I think all law enforcement should be elected.

[00:12:33] I think all, you know, police departments, police chiefs, I think there would change the landscape of our country.

[00:12:38] I think you'd stop seeing, you know, egregious acts by law enforcement.

[00:12:42] I think the training would go up.

[00:12:43] I think the professionalism would go up because I can tell you, the majority of the incidents that you see on the news, whether it's CNN, Fox News, whatever, anything that goes wrong, it's because of unelected people, people who don't have that ties to the constituents making decisions.

[00:12:59] And so I would love to see all of our law enforcement elected.

[00:13:02] You would bring back community policing, Sheriff Mack.

[00:13:04] Yes.

[00:13:05] Well, that's absolutely correct.

[00:13:07] I've said that numerous times.

[00:13:09] You know, the city started incorporating, so they wanted police to back them up with a power source.

[00:13:16] And it's just totally unnecessary.

[00:13:18] The sheriff is elected throughout every city and the incorporated parts, non-incorporated parts.

[00:13:26] And that's all they really ever needed.

[00:13:29] And it would save a lot of time and money to have just one elected body.

[00:13:34] But if they want their chiefs, have them elected.

[00:13:37] I totally agree with the sheriff.

[00:13:38] Sheriff, and maybe, Sheriff, you and I ought to start working on having me come out and do my law enforcement training and the Constitution training for public officials and sheriffs and deputies and see how many people we could get there and just reinforce this whole constitutional county thing and come out and do a big chin dig where the public and all public officials are invited.

[00:14:04] What do you think?

[00:14:05] I think it's a great idea, and I think we'd probably get a pretty big turnout because I think there's an appetite for this right now, especially when you see the landslide election of President Trump that's happening.

[00:14:16] You see people pushing back against the current administration and saying, what you're doing isn't working for us.

[00:14:22] When you have the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the presidency all occupied by conservatives, I think you're in a position where people are really thirsting for that.

[00:14:33] And so now is the time we've got to capitalize on this because it's a short window.

[00:14:37] The pendulum swings, and it's swinging our way right now.

[00:14:40] You've got to take advantage of it while you can because it's going to swing back the other way before long.

[00:14:45] Excellent point.

[00:14:46] Unfortunate but true.

[00:14:49] I love that.

[00:14:50] Pendulum swings.

[00:14:52] Yeah.

[00:14:53] Anyway, that's fantastic.

[00:14:55] I'll give you a call later.

[00:14:58] Maybe we'll shoot for that in January.

[00:15:01] Yeah, I agree with that.

[00:15:02] One of the great things I think we can work on, too, is this community policing idea that Sheriff Flowers pointed to when you say we have elected law enforcement.

[00:15:09] That's one of the great ways.

[00:15:10] You know, we can vet and elect those who serve us.

[00:15:13] Then we can have a relationship with them going forward.

[00:15:15] One of the great ways to do that is with a sheriff's posse.

[00:15:19] You know, a lot of times people believe posse is just guns, but it's not that at all.

[00:15:22] It's community service.

[00:15:23] It's all up and down the line of really support for law enforcement from a volunteer basis.

[00:15:29] Do you have a posse, Sheriff Flowers?

[00:15:31] And is that something?

[00:15:32] What do you think?

[00:15:34] I have a group of, they're called special deputies in Florida that are under, you know, they're sworn in by me.

[00:15:43] They can be called up in times of need.

[00:15:46] And so it's similar to what other places call a posse.

[00:15:49] But, yes, I absolutely have that.

[00:15:51] And it's a good thing for our community and a good thing for everybody.

[00:15:54] You know, getting back to the idea that you were talking about, the elected police that we were discussing, look at the city of Chicago.

[00:16:02] You know, over in the history of the city of Chicago, the mayor has been the strong personality.

[00:16:09] The police chief works for the mayor.

[00:16:12] And so it's been the muscle of the mayor's office for many years.

[00:16:16] And, you know, when the mayor decides that, hey, we're going to do this or do that, police services suffer.

[00:16:23] And so they've gotten so far away from doing the actual job of policing.

[00:16:28] Imagine a situation where Illinois is now electing Chicago police chief.

[00:16:35] And how much would that change, right?

[00:16:37] Are they going to elect a Democrat as a police chief or the elect a Republican?

[00:16:40] Are they going to elect somebody who's going to actually say, no, we want to do something about this gun violence.

[00:16:44] We want to do something about the problems in our city.

[00:16:47] And so I think it would change the landscape of America.

[00:16:49] I think you would see, you know, right now where you've got these bright blue pockets in the cities and the urban areas, I think you would start to see a change.

[00:16:57] Because, you know, when Giuliani went in and cleaned up New York City, that was a massive change for them.

[00:17:03] And now you're seeing, obviously, it went the opposite direction.

[00:17:06] The immigrants are overrunning the city.

[00:17:09] They've got all these problems that are happening.

[00:17:11] And so we're very fortunate that we are on that pendulum swing back in the opposite direction.

[00:17:15] And I hope we do see some change in those inner cities.

[00:17:18] And so I'm excited for where we're headed.

[00:17:20] I think we're going in the right direction.

[00:17:22] I'm glad that Sheriff Matt got me involved and our county is where we are.

[00:17:25] I'm just hoping that we can hang on as long as we possibly can because this is our last hope.

[00:17:31] You know, our country was teetering on the edge of almost being gone.

[00:17:35] And if we didn't have this change, I think we would be in a real bad way today.

[00:17:40] I feel like we need to sit down with President Trump.

[00:17:43] I see this headline, and I think it's relevant.

[00:17:45] But I also think there's an element of the plan that's being overlooked.

[00:17:50] Headline says this, Trump confirmed that he will declare a national emergency and use military assets to help him carry out his mass deportation plans.

[00:18:01] And I understand that.

[00:18:03] And I understand that, hey, military at the border kind of makes sense.

[00:18:05] But I'm a little bit worried about military mixing with civilians too much in this case.

[00:18:11] But to me, can't we call on 3,000 sheriffs and all their posses to get this done?

[00:18:17] So I'm very fortunate that I had two Border Patrol agents that have worked out of my office since before I even took office.

[00:18:25] And those guys will tell you I traveled to El Paso with Border Patrol and DEA and actually saw it firsthand.

[00:18:32] And under Trump the first time, when we encountered illegal immigrants, people who were here illegally, we were deporting them.

[00:18:40] Massive rates.

[00:18:41] Sending them to Miami.

[00:18:42] They're gone.

[00:18:42] They're gone.

[00:18:43] They're gone.

[00:18:43] The second that his term ended, all of the policies completely changed.

[00:18:48] And it was back to tag and release.

[00:18:51] And so for the last four years under the Biden administration, when we encountered these folks, they get tagged under the Border Patrol system.

[00:18:59] And they're essentially released back into the country.

[00:19:01] So they've got the records.

[00:19:03] They know who the people are.

[00:19:04] We've encountered a lot of them.

[00:19:05] There's plenty of them that we don't know who they are, but we come in contact with them.

[00:19:08] And I totally agree with you.

[00:19:09] I think empowering sheriffs, the chiefs, empowering us to do the job, I think we can get it done in short order.

[00:19:16] As long as we have cooperation from the federal government, just empower us to do it.

[00:19:20] And we're here to help us.

[00:19:21] We're here to do.

[00:19:23] Sheriff Mack, I mean, I understand the military on the border a little bit.

[00:19:26] I understand drug cartels are involved.

[00:19:28] So I get stepping up the game.

[00:19:29] But to me, it ought to be led by the local jurisdictions where the problems occur.

[00:19:33] How clueless am I?

[00:19:35] No, you're right on.

[00:19:36] And so is Sheriff Flowers.

[00:19:39] It's exactly correct.

[00:19:41] They should be asking sheriffs to help them identify the cells of terrorists and drug cartels that have set up shop.

[00:19:53] It was reported this morning that over 16 states have Tren de Agua gangs in their states set up where they're not just walking around.

[00:20:05] They've set up shop there.

[00:20:07] We've seen that in Colorado.

[00:20:09] And so sheriffs are going to have to be involved with this.

[00:20:14] The military does not know where they are.

[00:20:16] The local sheriff knows where most of these people are living and have offices and their organizations.

[00:20:25] They know where they are, and they're going to need the sheriffs.

[00:20:28] They also know who the bad guys are versus just the average Joe.

[00:20:32] Sheriff Flowers, do you want to finish a thought on that and let you fly?

[00:20:36] Yeah, I apologize.

[00:20:37] I got to run.

[00:20:38] I'm stepping into a school board meeting.

[00:20:40] I got to go protect our kids.

[00:20:41] So thank you guys for having me today.

[00:20:42] Sheriff Flowers, thank you so much, sir.

[00:20:44] Good job, Sheriff.

[00:20:45] We'll talk soon.

[00:20:46] Thank you.

[00:20:47] His website, by the way, irc sheriff.org, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:20:52] Sheriff Eric Flowers is the sheriff in Indian River County, Florida, right now.

[00:20:57] And he basically is saying, hey, we want to be a constitutional county.

[00:21:00] We've done so in our county.

[00:21:02] We're encouraging other counties to do so.

[00:21:04] And he says the First Amendment free speech is one of the keys.

[00:21:08] And boy, do I agree with that.

[00:21:09] He's got a sheriff's posse in his county.

[00:21:11] Those who will voluntarily help the sheriff in times of need.

[00:21:15] And I say that sheriffs need to, you know, work on expanding those posses.

[00:21:19] It's not just law enforcement that it relates to.

[00:21:22] It relates to community policing, to getting to know your neighbors, to helping with neighborhood watches, to keeping the peace and calm at places where there's events, to making sure that there's, you know, plenty of water around when it's hot.

[00:21:35] And, you know, all kinds of just casualty.

[00:21:38] It's like the Boy Scouts of America tied in with law enforcement, you know.

[00:21:41] And I shouldn't use the Boy Scouts as my term.

[00:21:43] But my point is that, hey, 4-H, all these young people and young adults, they can all be involved in meaningful, productive, volunteer ways that really let people know who their sheriff is, who the deputies are, who the cops are.

[00:21:56] And instead of running from the cops, they'll be like, hey, these guys are my friends, Sheriff.

[00:22:00] That's what we want to achieve, right?

[00:22:02] Yeah, exactly.

[00:22:03] And Sheriff Flowers was calling it textbook.

[00:22:07] Everything he was saying is right out of the CSPA textbook on all of this.

[00:22:12] So I really hope that he and I can get a meeting going there, reinforce what he has done, reinforce what their county has done, and show them that there is a Supreme Court case and the laws of the land that totally support what they're doing and actually totally support that they would be doing more.

[00:22:32] And so, yeah, I think this is a great step forward for the state of Florida.

[00:22:38] And we need to remember, he just got reelected.

[00:22:42] He was in the middle of a campaign while he was doing this, and he put his oath of office first.

[00:22:49] He put the Constitution first.

[00:22:51] And I think the people like that.

[00:22:53] And so my hat's off to Sheriff Flowers and all the other sheriffs that are trying to get this done across the country.

[00:23:02] And there is no question about it that you and I have already discussed this, that the sheriffs have got to have Trump's back on this deportation thing.

[00:23:11] They have to be involved.

[00:23:13] Could you imagine just the military coming in and trying to go door-to-door finding people?

[00:23:17] No.

[00:23:18] I would never support that.

[00:23:20] But not only can the sheriff provide the lead in his jurisdiction, which is completely constitutional and proper role of government, but they also know, you know, take a thousand illegals, just say.

[00:23:30] You know, Trump says he wants to start with the real bad guys, the murderers, the rapists, the bad guys that have been basically released from prisons in their own countries and, you know, sent here or whatever.

[00:23:40] We want to start with those guys.

[00:23:41] Well, who better than the sheriff to know who those people are?

[00:23:46] Well, of course, exactly.

[00:23:48] That's exactly right.

[00:23:49] And, you know, the FBI comes into our counties and wants to do things and they go to the wrong home and kill a dog or whatever else.

[00:23:59] No, they need us.

[00:24:02] All right, ladies and gentlemen, Sheriff Richard Mack's with me.

[00:24:05] Would like to thank Sheriff Eric Flowers for being on the program.

[00:24:09] When we come back, Sheriff Mack, I want to talk about a few things here that I find of interest.

[00:24:14] We need to sit down with President Trump and talk about, you know, they've got this, oh, what do they call this thing?

[00:24:20] This government agency that's for efficiency, right?

[00:24:23] Anyway, we'll talk about it.

[00:24:25] But we need a way to train sheriffs across the country.

[00:24:29] We need to have sheriffs understand community policing.

[00:24:31] We need to de-escalate, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:24:34] Let's talk about it with good Sheriff Richard Mack in seconds.

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[00:28:59] Abby Johnson was once director of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Bryan, Texas.

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[00:29:08] They implement abortion quotas in all of their clinics.

[00:29:11] What do you mean, quotas?

[00:29:12] You have to perform a certain number of abortions every month.

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[00:29:17] Are they explicit about that?

[00:29:18] Yes.

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[00:29:39] I was shocked to hear this.

[00:29:40] You actually worked at a Planned Parenthood.

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[00:29:47] Okay.

[00:29:48] Abortions, Planned Parenthood provides over 330,000 abortions a year.

[00:29:51] They are the largest single abortion provider in our country.

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[00:30:23] All right.

[00:30:24] Back with you live Sam Bushman on your radio.

[00:30:27] The good Sheriff Richard Mack with me as well.

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[00:30:37] So, Sheriff Mack, I think that we need to sit down with President Trump, Tom Holman, and some of these people and put together a plan.

[00:30:42] I hear on the border, you know, these mass deportations and everything else.

[00:30:46] Hey, you know, the military, Donald Trump, Tom Holman.

[00:30:50] Great.

[00:30:51] I understand all that.

[00:30:51] That's good.

[00:30:53] I agree it's a national emergency.

[00:30:54] But if we're going to declare a national emergency, we need to have the county sheriffs involved in their own jurisdictions leading this effort.

[00:31:02] You can't just coordinate it.

[00:31:03] I haven't heard a word about the county sheriff.

[00:31:06] America's last hope involved in these discussions.

[00:31:09] And we need to change that discussion.

[00:31:10] But it turns out that some clowns literally sat down with Donald the other day.

[00:31:16] I kid you not.

[00:31:17] Morning, Joe.

[00:31:19] Joe Scarborough and what is it?

[00:31:23] Mika Buzinski or whatever her name is.

[00:31:26] They went to Mar-a-Lago last weekend and they restarted communications with Trump.

[00:31:31] Trump confirmed the, quote, cordial tone of the discussion in his interview with Fox News Digital.

[00:31:40] Many things were discussed, he said.

[00:31:42] And I really appreciated the conversation and the fact that they wanted to have open communication.

[00:31:48] I guess the clowns over at Morning Joe said, hey, Donald's win was one for the history books.

[00:31:55] So Donald took that to the bank.

[00:31:56] Trump further emphasized his readiness to engage with the media but issued his warning.

[00:32:03] If not treated fairly, that will end.

[00:32:05] I appreciate that.

[00:32:06] But I think that if we're going to have, say, a Mark Lamb, a Sheriff Richard Mack, you know, some well-known new media taking center stage people like myself, you know, we can bring 100 sheriffs into the room and sit down with President Trump and talk about, hey, let's put this mass deportation effort into the constitutional realm and have constitutional county sheriffs lead the coordinated efforts to accomplish this incredible goal.

[00:32:33] But I want to just play here on Monday.

[00:32:38] The morning show folks kind of shocked the world and told everybody about the meeting they had.

[00:32:44] And here's what Mika had to say about it.

[00:32:47] Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply dismayed by several of President-elect Trump's cabinet selections.

[00:32:58] And they are scared.

[00:32:59] Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the opportunity to speak with the president-elect himself.

[00:33:09] On Friday, we were given the opportunity to do just that.

[00:33:15] Joe and I went to Mar-a-Lago to meet personally with President-elect Trump.

[00:33:20] It was the first time we have seen him in seven years.

[00:33:25] Now, we talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets.

[00:33:34] We talked about that a good bit.

[00:33:36] And it's going to come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over the past year or over the past decade, that we didn't see eye to eye on a lot of issues.

[00:33:48] And we told him so.

[00:33:50] What we did agree on was to restart communications.

[00:33:54] My father often spoke with world leaders with whom he and the United States profoundly disagreed.

[00:34:01] That's a task shared by reporters and commentators alike.

[00:34:04] We had not spoken to President Trump since March of 2020, other than a personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania.

[00:34:18] In this meeting, President Trump was cheerful.

[00:34:21] He was upbeat.

[00:34:21] He seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the most divisive issues.

[00:34:28] And for those asking why we would go speak to the president-elect during such fraught times, especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why wouldn't we?

[00:34:41] Five years of political warfare has deeply divided Washington and the country.

[00:34:45] We have been as clear as we know how in expressing our deep concerns about President Trump's actions and words in the coarsening of public debate.

[00:34:55] But for nearly 80 million Americans, election denialism, public trials on January 6th were not as important as the issues that moved them to send Donald Trump back to the White House with their vote.

[00:35:12] Joe and I realize it's time to do something different.

[00:35:15] And that starts with not only talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him.

[00:35:23] Now, I find this fascinating.

[00:35:25] I get the idea that, hey, let's bury the hatchet.

[00:35:27] Let's have civility.

[00:35:29] I don't know if they're just doing that for ratings or what their real reason is.

[00:35:32] They're doing that so Donald doesn't go after them.

[00:35:34] I mean, I don't really know.

[00:35:35] And I don't really have a problem with Donald meeting with them.

[00:35:38] But all the, quote, morning Joe folks are criticizing them for meeting with Donald and doing an about face for ratings.

[00:35:44] And otherwise, their show would be in the tank.

[00:35:46] They have less than a million listeners these days.

[00:35:49] And so they're not really even that critical.

[00:35:51] But what I don't understand is why would Donald Trump, number one, meet with them so readily and not be able to have time to meet with a lot of the people that want to help him carry out his plans?

[00:36:01] Secondarily, though, what I don't really understand is they referred to a phone call where, hey, after Joe, I mean, after Donald Trump, you know, had that assassination attempt against him.

[00:36:10] I mean, hey, Joe Scarborough just picked up the phone and called up the Donald.

[00:36:15] How do these guys have communications with Trump and these kind of people, whereas people like me and you and even people that we hear that are close to Trump?

[00:36:23] Nobody has access like that that I know of.

[00:36:25] How do these clowns have that kind of access, Sheriff Mack?

[00:36:29] Well, they're high ranking.

[00:36:32] No, they're not.

[00:36:33] They have less than a million listeners, my friend.

[00:36:36] Well, reputation wise, I guess.

[00:36:38] But yeah.

[00:36:39] And not only that, your point is well taken.

[00:36:41] They got a reputation of a bunch of thugs, though.

[00:36:43] Calling Donald Trump Hitler and this kind of stuff.

[00:36:46] I mean, if you want that to be a reputation, I guess.

[00:36:49] Well, I think Trump is extending the olive branch and hopefully that will have some impact on the rhetoric that has gone just totally insane.

[00:37:01] And he was meeting with two of the most insane.

[00:37:05] And so I'm actually surprised he did it.

[00:37:07] But I understand.

[00:37:10] And I would tell everybody, you, me, everybody, the people that go after us, I would still sit down with ADL.

[00:37:20] I would still sit down with IREHR.

[00:37:22] I agree.

[00:37:23] I don't have a problem with him sitting down with them.

[00:37:25] I guess my problem is that they have incredible access to Trump.

[00:37:29] And then, hey, even people we know who claim they have access to Trump, none of them really do.

[00:37:34] Yeah.

[00:37:35] They claim they do.

[00:37:36] But when it really warrants a sit down, nobody can get it done.

[00:37:41] But if we don't talk about the greatest deportation program in the history of the world, then I'm saying we need the 3,000 sheriffs responsible for those jurisdictions involved.

[00:37:50] And no one's got them involved yet.

[00:37:52] Nobody that I hear.

[00:37:52] Do you see a single story where the sheriff's involved?

[00:37:56] Not yet.

[00:37:56] But I know Tom Homan is very close with some sheriffs.

[00:38:00] And I actually called Tom Homan.

[00:38:03] I called him.

[00:38:04] And I left him a message.

[00:38:06] And then I texted him.

[00:38:08] And two days later, he texted me back.

[00:38:11] And he said, I got you.

[00:38:12] I'm definitely going to call you back.

[00:38:15] And so since then, the news is that he is receiving hundreds and hundreds of calls every day from former Border Patrol agents, former sheriffs, former law enforcement, that want to help him with the deportation thing.

[00:38:32] So he has to know.

[00:38:34] I know Tom knows.

[00:38:36] Oh, I know Tom knows.

[00:38:38] He knows the sheriffs.

[00:38:39] I agree.

[00:38:40] And he knows they have to be involved.

[00:38:42] Trump knows the sheriffs.

[00:38:43] He might be forgetting them right now because of all the hustle and bustle of the changeover from Biden to him.

[00:38:52] But it's going to happen.

[00:38:54] You know it's going to happen.

[00:38:56] It has to happen.

[00:38:57] Just like we're saying, it has to be that he gets the sheriffs involved.

[00:39:03] We need efforts in every county.

[00:39:06] We need an unprecedented call to action by all sheriffs in the country.

[00:39:10] Okay.

[00:39:11] We need to rally behind Tom Holman and Donald Trump to address critical challenges in our immigration system.

[00:39:18] We need a mass deportation.

[00:39:20] We need to make sure that this goes and does the least amount of harm.

[00:39:25] Okay.

[00:39:26] We need sheriffs across the country from every county to participate in enforcing our laws effectively, humanely.

[00:39:36] Okay.

[00:39:37] This is we can we can do something here.

[00:39:39] Tom Holman has long advocated for stronger enforcement policies and to adhere to the rule of law while ensuring that our communities are safe for everyone.

[00:39:50] All right.

[00:39:50] There's an urgent need for this.

[00:39:51] And so when I watch all this news, I'm just a simple talk show host, people.

[00:39:56] But when I watch all this news and I hear just the military, the, you know, this, that, and, you know, the borders are the whatever this and that.

[00:40:05] And I don't hear a single word about the sheriffs.

[00:40:07] Look.

[00:40:09] Every deported person is in one of the sheriff's jurisdictions.

[00:40:14] Right.

[00:40:15] Right.

[00:40:15] So how do how do we have this conversation without the constitutional sheriff being inserted right at the center of it?

[00:40:22] We need coordinated action.

[00:40:24] And the best coordination is starting with the county sheriff as the leader of his jurisdiction.

[00:40:30] President Trump has also emphasized the importance of this mass deportation as a pillar of national security and public safety.

[00:40:39] He says it's an emergency.

[00:40:40] I've got to do this.

[00:40:41] I agree.

[00:40:42] How do we mobilize sheriffs to foster a unified approach towards immigration and enforcement that respects individual rights, but yet provides you for community safety?

[00:40:52] Okay.

[00:40:53] We're reaching out.

[00:40:54] I want to ask how many sheriffs are willing to sign up for an agenda like this, Sheriff.

[00:40:58] You think we can get a thousand?

[00:41:00] Yeah, I think, I think it would be hundreds and hundreds, especially if it comes from the Oval Office and Holman and, and maybe a few others.

[00:41:11] But the military, they have to be very careful with the military.

[00:41:16] What do they think they're going to do with the military?

[00:41:18] I can only see the military being at the border to stop the bleeding while they try to get the others with the illegal aliens in our country to get them out.

[00:41:30] And so, yeah, first you have to secure the border.

[00:41:34] And that's where I, where I think the military needs to be.

[00:41:39] And then they should go National Guard and sheriffs, and mostly sheriffs, and do it county by county.

[00:41:47] And the sheriffs can absolutely identify better than anyone else in the country where these terrorist cells are and the gang, Latin American gangsters are located.

[00:42:02] And if Fox News can report 16 states already have Tren de Agua gang bangers, then certainly the sheriffs can identify where they are.

[00:42:20] And in my mind, if we want to say that there's a role for the National Guard to participate, if we want to say there's a role for governors to participate, if we want to say there's a role for the general government to participate, I agree 100%.

[00:42:32] We can put them all in the sheriff's posse.

[00:42:34] They can all be part of the big posse, right?

[00:42:37] Well, they can.

[00:42:38] I don't know if they need to be, but they certainly should be working closely with their sheriff.

[00:42:43] At some point, somebody's got to be in charge, and the question, who is it?

[00:42:47] Well, there's no question about that.

[00:42:49] But I don't know if he necessarily needs to deputize them in order to be working with them.

[00:42:57] And just like when I worked on them.

[00:43:00] Yeah, but all members of a posse aren't necessarily deputized, right?

[00:43:05] They're sworn in.

[00:43:07] They're not deputies, but they're sworn in.

[00:43:09] But if I'm just working like as a volunteer or whatever at the county fair and stuff like that, I may be part of the sheriff's posse and get a shirt designating who I am and whatever.

[00:43:17] But I may not be sworn in, right?

[00:43:20] No, I would.

[00:43:21] You know, I would.

[00:43:23] If you're doing anything under me, I would be swearing you in.

[00:43:26] And all the posse members I had were.

[00:43:28] And I'm pretty sure Joe Arpaio swore all his posse in.

[00:43:33] And so I would do that.

[00:43:34] Yeah.

[00:43:35] We need to get this document for Bob Songer across the country.

[00:43:38] We need to start gathering sheriffs and literally sit down with President Trump and coordinate this thing with Tom Holman and everybody else and say, hey, I think this is doable.

[00:43:46] You know, they want you to believe it's going to cost three gazillion dollars and there's no way to solve the problems.

[00:43:50] And, man, it's just going to be disaster for families.

[00:43:53] And I don't think so.

[00:43:54] I think if we do this right, we can have a humane effort.

[00:43:56] We can have a prosperous, appropriate, coordinated solution here.

[00:44:00] We can.

[00:44:01] And we can provide tremendous leadership in that realm.

[00:44:05] Yeah, I totally agree with that.

[00:44:08] But they've got to be careful because I don't want any of this, you know, military door to door stuff.

[00:44:16] Well, and the sheriff would stop that, in my opinion, if he's doing his job right.

[00:44:20] He would say that's not the way we're going about it in my county.

[00:44:22] Correct.

[00:44:23] Yeah, correct.

[00:44:24] And they need to set a plan.

[00:44:28] And he needs to let them know, whoever comes in, military or anyone else.

[00:44:32] Look, I know where these guys are.

[00:44:35] Let's either set up a surveillance or we go and knock on the door or we just let them know we're coming.

[00:44:45] You know, they already know they're coming.

[00:44:47] So how that happens and make sure that it's nonviolent, they're going to have to be careful with that.

[00:44:56] I agree 100 percent.

[00:44:57] And that's the reason that I'm bringing the sheriff into the mix, because the elected local official that has ties to the community, that has ties to those who elected him.

[00:45:05] That, OK, that's, in my opinion, where the coordination can begin, where we can have a safe, humane effort here.

[00:45:12] You know, the sheriff can clearly say, hey, you know what?

[00:45:15] Out of these, you know, 10,000 identified illegals in my county, you know what?

[00:45:20] These 500 are the worst ones.

[00:45:21] They've committed crimes.

[00:45:22] They've done this and that.

[00:45:23] Or they've, you know, come back into my communities after they've been already detained multiple times or whatever.

[00:45:28] All that history, all that catch and release detail is known by the sheriff, right?

[00:45:33] Yeah, of course.

[00:45:34] And, you know, Sam, this is just also part of the plan, part of the program.

[00:45:41] But whoever they've already arrested, who they've already identified, they need to call it.

[00:45:47] They need to get that person and interview them and say, OK, where's everybody located?

[00:45:54] What is their plan?

[00:45:55] Get some intel going on all of this.

[00:45:58] Most of those guys will talk, especially after they've been in jail for a few weeks.

[00:46:03] And they really need to do this right.

[00:46:05] It cannot be guesswork.

[00:46:08] And so.

[00:46:09] And it cannot be treating everybody the same, as much as I know people think that's an amnesty idea.

[00:46:13] I don't think so.

[00:46:13] You cannot treat the guy that, you know, grew up here as a little kid and he pays his taxes and he's worked his whole life and he's not a criminal in any way.

[00:46:20] You can't compare that guy to a hardened criminal.

[00:46:23] No, you can't.

[00:46:24] No, no, of course not.

[00:46:26] And and Trump's right.

[00:46:28] You know, I want to see him go after the the really bad criminals first.

[00:46:34] And and they're going to need some help gathering that intel.

[00:46:38] And this is not going to be a real quick deal.

[00:46:43] And but I believe it can be done.

[00:46:45] And I think and I absolutely agree.

[00:46:48] It should be done.

[00:46:48] I agree with the deportation.

[00:46:50] This has gone way too far.

[00:46:53] And there's 30 million people here that are eating up taxpayer dollars and they shouldn't be.

[00:47:00] And yes, we need to put the blame where the blame lies.

[00:47:04] But these people are some of them didn't mean for this to happen the way it did.

[00:47:11] But they're here.

[00:47:13] It's wrong that they take up all the room that veterans should have.

[00:47:17] And I definitely go along with this.

[00:47:20] America.

[00:47:21] I agree.

[00:47:22] And Donald Trump can demand of other foreign leaders and he can use foreign aid and money.

[00:47:27] Everything else is his big stick.

[00:47:29] Yeah.

[00:47:29] And the carrot and say, listen, you let us know who you've released from your jails so we can get lists that we need to work from that may possibly be in our country.

[00:47:37] We can make this a very laser like targeted event that doesn't really affect the average peaceful person at this point.

[00:47:45] And we can just kind of work our way backwards here.

[00:47:47] Right.

[00:47:48] Of course.

[00:47:49] And, you know, I anticipate that they will be remembering.

[00:47:54] You know, this is another thing, Sam.

[00:47:57] Everyone who is within the geographical boundaries of the United States of America has the same rights that you and I do.

[00:48:06] Their due process rights.

[00:48:09] Must be met.

[00:48:11] OK, then they determine that they're here illegally.

[00:48:15] Send them home.

[00:48:17] Absolutely send them home.

[00:48:19] And so.

[00:48:20] But.

[00:48:22] What if they what if they find a Mexican-American citizen?

[00:48:28] Or anyone from Latin America who is here legally?

[00:48:31] And they send them out of here by mistake.

[00:48:35] They need to keep that to an extreme media.

[00:48:39] They need to be so careful.

[00:48:41] I agree with that.

[00:48:42] And that's where, you know, Mika and Joe, that everybody's all scared.

[00:48:46] They're scared, in my opinion, because of how the media is managing this.

[00:48:50] They're pumping fear into the people.

[00:48:51] If you listen to programs like Liberty Roundtable Live, you're going to get a very measured, very appropriate, but supporting President Trump guidelines of how this can be done.

[00:49:01] OK.

[00:49:01] You vet these people.

[00:49:02] You afford everybody appropriate due process.

[00:49:04] You.

[00:49:05] OK.

[00:49:06] And there's ways to accomplish this in a very peaceful, meaningful way.

[00:49:10] There's ways for people to leave the country, not in a big mess overnight, flee for their lives kind of crazy thing.

[00:49:16] There's ways that people have families and businesses to to work through that and give people time if they're peaceful and not a threat to the country.

[00:49:22] And there's ways to go about it and say, listen, you know what?

[00:49:26] You just can't cut in line to be here is the problem.

[00:49:28] Right.

[00:49:29] And so we're going to fix that.

[00:49:30] But we're going to go after the criminals and we're just going to say, look, you're going to go back to your country of origin and we're going to use our big stick, the carrot and the money and everything else to work with these other countries.

[00:49:39] They can give us lists.

[00:49:41] They know a lot of the people that have left their countries.

[00:49:44] Yes.

[00:49:44] They do.

[00:49:47] I believe they will help from both sides of the border.

[00:49:49] But I, you know, you start with the sheriffs and say, who do you, you know, for instance, Aurora, Colorado.

[00:49:59] They could start right there.

[00:50:01] OK, let's get them out of the apartment complexes.

[00:50:06] And and they should be already the sheriff's office and police department should already be surveilling these people.

[00:50:14] And they should be knowing their comings and going.

[00:50:17] That is totally lawful.

[00:50:19] And and and if they and if they haven't already been doing it, they're crazy.

[00:50:24] They should be.

[00:50:25] This is a major crime from a gang syndicate taking over apartment complexes and you're just going to let them.

[00:50:35] No way.

[00:50:36] Not even.

[00:50:38] And Sam, I think there's another political thing here, too, that it kind of reminded me when Joe Scarborough, Nika, whatever name is, went and met with Trump.

[00:50:50] Who were the biggest losers on this big red wave that happened a couple of weeks ago?

[00:50:56] Who were the biggest losers?

[00:50:58] It was the media, Sam.

[00:51:00] Oh, they were the biggest losers.

[00:51:02] And now everything that they peddled and promoted and lied about and everything else got exposed in one.

[00:51:07] Well, got a well swoop.

[00:51:10] Yeah.

[00:51:10] And they were the ones defending Biden that he's fine.

[00:51:14] And they every one of them knew that was a lie.

[00:51:17] Then all of a sudden he has this average debate.

[00:51:21] And it wasn't it wasn't a total fiasco.

[00:51:25] It was average.

[00:51:26] And he made a couple of big mistakes.

[00:51:28] But for him, they were it was actually a pretty good day.

[00:51:31] And they were watching this for four years.

[00:51:35] And they said nothing but praise for the for the president for Biden.

[00:51:39] And anybody who did speak up candidly about it was considered somehow a terrorist or an enemy.

[00:51:45] Oh, yeah.

[00:51:46] But look at look at this point.

[00:51:49] They're actually trying to sell CNN.

[00:51:53] That is a huge loss that.

[00:51:57] Yeah, I wish we could get the funds together to buy it, huh?

[00:52:01] Yeah, let's go buy it, Sam.

[00:52:03] And and Sarah Sidner.

[00:52:06] This is the company you work for.

[00:52:08] And you know that they have trained you to lie and many others there at CNN.

[00:52:15] Isn't it a shame, Sarah, that you lied about me and knowingly and wittingly lied about me,

[00:52:23] intentionally lied about me in your story.

[00:52:26] And I should have listened to Sam Bushman, who told me only do a live interview on in studio.

[00:52:35] And that was my only mistake with you, because you got to edit it however you wanted.

[00:52:41] But Sarah, you really need to get your integrity back, get your life back and get your morals back and do not work for an agency that trains you to lie.

[00:52:57] And so anyway, because I thought she was a decent person.

[00:53:01] And I actually liked her.

[00:53:05] But when she told me she was going to be fair and I said, no, you're not.

[00:53:09] You know, she goes, why?

[00:53:10] And why do you say that?

[00:53:12] You don't know me.

[00:53:12] Because you work for CNN.

[00:53:14] And you have compromised yourself to do so.

[00:53:18] And so anyway, I pretty much knew what was coming and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be.

[00:53:25] But, you know, it's just what CNN is.

[00:53:30] They're liars.

[00:53:32] Well, the good news is the truth is coming out.

[00:53:34] And you're right.

[00:53:34] The media is paying dearly.

[00:53:36] And that's why Monica or Mika and Joe and everything want to basically crawl back to the Donald.

[00:53:41] And Donald, you know, kind of considered it, you know, shaming them to meet with them and be the good guy.

[00:53:47] And, you know, I think he was smart to meet with them.

[00:53:49] I'm not criticizing him for that.

[00:53:50] I'm just saying if he's got time to meet with those clowns, he certainly has time to meet with us.

[00:53:54] Because we've got a whole lot more relevant involvement in the solutions going forward than Mika and Joe will ever have.

[00:54:02] I'll tell you that right now.

[00:54:03] All right.

[00:54:03] Hour one of the can, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:54:05] Hour two coming up.

[00:54:06] We've got Scott Horton coming up with us.

[00:54:08] Anti-war guy.

[00:54:09] The Scott Horton Show does a phenomenal job.

[00:54:11] We'll have him with us.

[00:54:12] We'll get his take on a lot of this stuff as well.

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