Radio Show Hour 1 – 11/26/2024

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[00:00:24] All right.

[00:00:26] Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.

[00:00:28] Sam Bushman live on your radio.

[00:00:31] Hard-hitting news the network refused to use, no doubt.

[00:00:34] Starts now.

[00:00:34] This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for November the 26th in the year of our Lord, 2024.

[00:00:42] This is Hour 1 of 2, the goal always to protect life, liberty, and property, to promote God, family, and country,

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[00:00:52] We reject revolution unless it's the Jesus Revolution.

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[00:01:03] What are the peaceful, restorative solutions we have at our fingertips?

[00:01:07] Man, there's so much going on in the news, it's not even funny.

[00:01:10] No guest today, Sheriff Mack is traveling for Thanksgiving.

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[00:02:15] And thank heavens, Sheriff Mack beat Bill Clinton at the Supreme Court and stopped Bill Clinton from trying to take your guns away.

[00:02:21] They're at it in the lame duck session trying to take your guns away, says our dear friend over at gunowners.org, Eric Pratt.

[00:02:30] And so we've got to really be vigilant that they don't get that done in the lame duck session.

[00:02:34] Stand tall over Christmas.

[00:02:36] Remember, that's how they passed the Federal Reserve Dishonest Act of Dishonest Money back in 1913.

[00:02:41] They waited until Christmastime.

[00:02:42] And boy, howdy, did they betray us.

[00:02:45] They all should have gone to prison for that.

[00:02:48] But hey, 100 plus years later, we're still suffering under dishonest money.

[00:02:53] Hopefully Donald Trump will audit and end the Fed.

[00:02:57] Let's get it done now.

[00:02:59] All right.

[00:03:00] Finally, finally, finally, finally.

[00:03:02] Someone joins Sam Bushman and speaks out.

[00:03:05] Senator Rand Paul says he will not support the use of military for deportations.

[00:03:13] Yeah, you don't do it with the Army, says Rand Paul, because it's illegal.

[00:03:18] That's what he said on CBS Face the Nation last Sunday.

[00:03:22] If they send the Army into New York, for example, and you have 10,000 troops marching, carrying semi-automatic weapons, Rand Paul says,

[00:03:31] I think it's a terrible image, and I will oppose that.

[00:03:34] Good for him.

[00:03:36] Now, Rand Paul was on Face the Nation.

[00:03:40] And what's interesting is it was like an 11-minute segment.

[00:03:42] It's pretty long.

[00:03:43] But I want to play most of it.

[00:03:44] And I want to talk about it because they battered him on a variety of topics.

[00:03:48] They kicked off the discussion talking about vaccines.

[00:03:53] And Rand Paul is a vaccine supporter, which I'm quite disappointed in.

[00:03:58] But he has the right to think and believe what he thinks.

[00:04:00] And he vaccinated his children, which I wouldn't do that personally.

[00:04:04] But, you know, he has every right to do what he wants.

[00:04:06] But here's the interesting thing.

[00:04:09] The host has to, you know, make her snide remarks.

[00:04:12] He's a doctor.

[00:04:13] He's a physician.

[00:04:14] And he has every right to his opinion.

[00:04:16] But he brings up some fundamental truths that we really need to let become center in the discussion and debate about vaccines,

[00:04:24] whether they be the COVID vaccines, new vaccines being created, current vaccines on the market,

[00:04:29] the Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund, where we take liability away from the companies that create vaccines,

[00:04:36] and we dump it on the taxpayer.

[00:04:38] That's got to stop.

[00:04:39] Okay, so we need candid truth.

[00:04:41] We need accountability.

[00:04:42] We need transparency.

[00:04:44] Okay?

[00:04:45] And accountability.

[00:04:46] That's what we need here.

[00:04:47] Anyway, Rand Paul speaking truth to power on this on Face the Nation.

[00:04:51] Man, this poor lady can't stand it.

[00:04:53] Here's the exchange.

[00:04:54] Go now to Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul.

[00:04:58] He is set to chair the Homeland Security Committee next year, and he sits on the Health Committee.

[00:05:03] Welcome back to Face the Nation, Senator.

[00:05:07] Good morning.

[00:05:08] Thanks for having me.

[00:05:09] Well, you are a doctor by training.

[00:05:12] I want to ask you about some of these health picks.

[00:05:14] I know that you personally said that you have vaccinated all of your children, but vaccination rates in this country, as you know, are on the decline.

[00:05:22] Are you at all concerned that elevating individuals who have been publicly critical of some particular vaccines, RFK Jr.

[00:05:31] at HHS Secretary, Dave Weldon to CDC Director, that any of that will erode trust in vaccination?

[00:05:38] Before we get to Rand Paul's answer on this, do you see how she framed the argument?

[00:05:44] Do you see this is why Face the Nation, why Morning Joe, why all these clown organizations in the mainstream press are just losing viewers left and right?

[00:05:53] They don't get it.

[00:05:54] They don't understand.

[00:05:55] Why would you frame the argument?

[00:05:57] You're a doctor.

[00:05:58] I know you vaccinated all your kids.

[00:06:00] Aren't you concerned that anybody that criticizes the vaccine is going to erode trust?

[00:06:05] No.

[00:06:06] See, it's that kind of unfair, open, honest debate that erodes trust.

[00:06:12] You and the media and the government together are eroding trust.

[00:06:16] Why can't we be honest about vaccines from the start and say, you know what?

[00:06:21] If you're a pro-vaxxer or you're an anti-vaxxer, whatever you want to say, for or against vaccinations, why can't we let both sides just have their fair viewpoints?

[00:06:32] Okay?

[00:06:33] But see, she slants the argument to where, you know, you're pro-vaccine, right?

[00:06:36] Doctor, you vaccinated all your kids.

[00:06:38] You're a physician, right?

[00:06:39] Aren't you concerned about everybody else who's against vaccines or who has concerns about vaccines?

[00:06:44] Or can you not even bring up concerns, you see?

[00:06:46] And man, anybody who brings up concerns, see, they're eroding trust.

[00:06:50] No, it's the lies about vaccines that are eroding trust.

[00:06:54] And Rand Paul hands her her head.

[00:06:56] Here he is.

[00:06:58] You know, I think all of us can agree that there's an increase of vaccine hesitancy.

[00:07:02] And I think it comes from people not believing what the government is telling them.

[00:07:06] The fact that the CDC Committee for Vaccines and the FDA Committee for Vaccines said for COVID boosters that you should take a booster if you're over 65.

[00:07:16] And yet the Biden administration, Rochelle Walensky, actually politicized that, didn't follow the science and said you should boost your six-month-old.

[00:07:25] And the American public is rejecting this.

[00:07:27] Only about 20% of the American public of all ages is taking the COVID booster because the government hasn't been honest with us.

[00:07:34] Well, it's that honesty has led to other...

[00:07:37] Well, it's that honesty has led to other...

[00:07:37] Pause.

[00:07:38] Okay, so that's the bottom line.

[00:07:40] The government hasn't been honest with us.

[00:07:42] The science said if you're over 65, hey, it might be a risk-reward analysis and it would be smart to take the vaccine.

[00:07:48] That's their advice.

[00:07:49] That's fine.

[00:07:50] But under that, they lied.

[00:07:53] They pushed this and there was no science to back it whatsoever.

[00:07:56] And they lied.

[00:07:58] So, ma'am on CBS, are you concerned about the government lying to you about vaccines and eroding trust for the whole public?

[00:08:06] See, that's where the real question belongs.

[00:08:09] Okay, you guys lied about this.

[00:08:11] You carried it in the media.

[00:08:13] Okay, and now people don't trust because you lied.

[00:08:16] Honesty is the issue here.

[00:08:18] And if you're honest, then you'll have trust.

[00:08:20] People can have their views on each side of the debate if they want to, ma'am.

[00:08:24] But you can't just manipulate the data and pretend that you have the upper hand.

[00:08:29] Oh, my gosh, anybody who brings up these questions, they're the bad guys.

[00:08:32] They're eroding trust.

[00:08:33] No, the lies are what eroded trust.

[00:08:36] The dishonesty from the government.

[00:08:38] Why do we have a vaccine injury compensation fund in the first place?

[00:08:41] Answer.

[00:08:42] Because the vaccines were so dangerous, so problematic that the companies would go under if they had to deal with the liabilities

[00:08:49] or accountability for their vaccines.

[00:08:51] That's why.

[00:08:52] So the government back in the Reagan administration in the 1986 scandal, in my opinion,

[00:08:57] they basically hooked the taxpayer with that.

[00:09:00] The taxpayers have to pay that, right?

[00:09:03] That's the problem.

[00:09:04] Nope, we'll continue with the break, but continue with Rand Paul here.

[00:09:09] Other vaccines as well, not just COVID vaccines.

[00:09:12] There's concern about measles.

[00:09:13] Right, but people have to believe it.

[00:09:16] Exactly.

[00:09:16] But people are doubting because they're being told that.

[00:09:19] I'll give you an example.

[00:09:20] Look, I think vaccines, smallpox, the story of smallpox vaccine, polio vaccine,

[00:09:25] are some of the most miraculous discoveries in all of medicine.

[00:09:29] And I'm not against vaccines.

[00:09:30] But like when my kids were little, the hepatitis B vaccine,

[00:09:33] they still want to give it to them as a newborn.

[00:09:35] I just, my baby's new and just, you know, come into the world.

[00:09:38] And you can see how a lot of reasonable people say,

[00:09:41] why do I have to do it as a newborn?

[00:09:42] Couldn't I come back in three months or six months?

[00:09:44] So really, it's about choice.

[00:09:46] It's about getting rid of mandates.

[00:09:48] It's about letting people participate.

[00:09:50] But it's also about the government being honest.

[00:09:53] What are the risks and what are the benefits?

[00:09:55] And they haven't been honest on COVID because healthy children do not die from COVID,

[00:10:00] do not get seriously sick.

[00:10:02] And there's no proof that the vaccine has any medical benefit for healthy children.

[00:10:08] Well, we want to...

[00:10:10] Now, there you have it.

[00:10:11] He nailed it.

[00:10:12] Okay, that's the facts.

[00:10:13] And the government lied to us about that to the point where we don't trust them.

[00:10:16] Now, Rand Paul also brings up another valid point.

[00:10:19] Hey, why do they want to give your newborn all these jabs?

[00:10:23] Can't I wait until, you know, three months, six months, a year, two years?

[00:10:28] Can't I let their immune system develop first?

[00:10:30] And that's a risk-reward analysis that Rand Paul even is kind of contemplating going,

[00:10:36] hey, well, can't we be honest about that?

[00:10:40] No.

[00:10:40] See, if I bring that up, they say, oh my gosh, this is an anti-vaxxer.

[00:10:43] He's crazy.

[00:10:44] He's going to kill everybody.

[00:10:45] Okay, it's that psychotic view that is the problem.

[00:10:49] And they've lied to us.

[00:10:50] And Rand Paul hands her her head.

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[00:13:03] We're talking about Rand Paul on Face the Nation on Sunday.

[00:13:07] Senator Rand Paul speaks truth to power regarding vaccines.

[00:13:12] The issue is honesty.

[00:13:14] So the lady can't stand Rand Paul as a physician telling her how it really is

[00:13:18] and telling her that the government's not honest,

[00:13:20] telling her that, hey, people questioning this and they have every right to think for themselves.

[00:13:24] What the government's responsibility is is to be truthful and honest and accurate

[00:13:27] about the risks and the rewards of vaccines and let people make up their own minds.

[00:13:32] Okay, that's the deal.

[00:13:33] When they're dishonest, people don't trust them.

[00:13:36] Okay, it isn't these new guys that are questioning vaccines that are the problem.

[00:13:40] The reason that they're questioning the vaccines is because of the dishonesty,

[00:13:43] because of the lack of transparency, right?

[00:13:46] All right, well, anyway, so then this lady tries to get her word in edgewise

[00:13:49] and she tries to walk back.

[00:13:51] So she's like, oh, we're not just talking about the COVID.

[00:13:53] We're talking about all the vaccines.

[00:13:54] That's right.

[00:13:54] We are talking about all the vaccines.

[00:13:56] And all the vaccines have absolutely sketchy records, ma'am.

[00:14:00] And the National Injury Compensation Fund proves the point, right?

[00:14:07] All right.

[00:14:08] Anyway, she continues here.

[00:14:10] Move on to other topics, sir.

[00:14:13] Okay, pause.

[00:14:13] We will continue.

[00:14:14] So now she wants to move on to other topics because she got her head handed to her.

[00:14:18] She doesn't know what to say.

[00:14:19] He's a doctor.

[00:14:20] He trapped her.

[00:14:21] She's embarrassed.

[00:14:22] So she wants to move on to other topics.

[00:14:24] But listen to what she says.

[00:14:25] But we will continue to cover it.

[00:14:27] Listen to how she says it.

[00:14:28] Continue to cover vaccination in this country.

[00:14:31] I think what you said there is that you're supportive of all those health nominees from what I heard.

[00:14:36] You have been.

[00:14:38] I'm sorry.

[00:14:38] Did you want to say?

[00:14:40] Pause.

[00:14:41] So she speaks out of turn.

[00:14:43] She says, I assume you're for all these health nominees.

[00:14:45] He never said that.

[00:14:46] Now he clarifies.

[00:14:48] He gets the chance to finally.

[00:14:49] But she makes an assumption which isn't fair.

[00:14:52] Let him speak for himself for crying out loud.

[00:14:54] Here he is.

[00:14:55] Oh, I was just going to say, yes, I am supportive.

[00:14:57] But I wouldn't describe them as the problem with vaccine hesitancy.

[00:15:01] I would describe the government misinformation as the problem with vaccine hesitancy.

[00:15:05] OK.

[00:15:06] Messengers matter, though.

[00:15:07] But you have raised concerns.

[00:15:10] Messengers matter, though.

[00:15:12] You're right.

[00:15:12] I've never heard you say something is correct in your life.

[00:15:14] And that's why you're the horrible messenger.

[00:15:17] Manipulating the reality.

[00:15:18] Ignoring what he said.

[00:15:20] OK.

[00:15:20] He said that I don't have a problem with these selections that Donald Trump has made.

[00:15:24] But that isn't the problem with your first initial question.

[00:15:27] Your first initial question is, are you concerned about these health leaders and their anti-vax questions?

[00:15:33] Or their hesitancy on vaccinations or vaccination concerns?

[00:15:37] Are you concerned that they'll erode trust?

[00:15:39] And he came back clearly and said, no.

[00:15:41] I support the nominees.

[00:15:43] I'm not concerned about them eroding trust.

[00:15:46] I'm concerned about the government eroding trust.

[00:15:49] Because the government hasn't been honest.

[00:15:51] And it's fine to have a healthy debate about this.

[00:15:54] That's what he said.

[00:15:55] So then she goes on.

[00:15:56] Messengers matter.

[00:15:57] We'll continue to cover this vaccine issue.

[00:16:00] Trying to dismiss everything that he said.

[00:16:02] But here's the problem.

[00:16:04] Mainstream thugs.

[00:16:06] Mainstream press that's become completely discredited.

[00:16:08] That's the point.

[00:16:09] You still don't get what he told you, do you?

[00:16:11] What he told you is the government's eroding trust with their dishonesty.

[00:16:14] What he told you is it's fine to have a healthy debate about these vaccines.

[00:16:18] The truth will come out.

[00:16:19] And if vaccines are good and transparent and accountable and clear and they're not harmful,

[00:16:25] let the record show that.

[00:16:27] If they're harmful and problematic and of concern, let that record show.

[00:16:33] If the government's being honest, great.

[00:16:35] If the government's being dishonest, let's expose it.

[00:16:37] Let's have this healthy debate.

[00:16:39] But she still clings to this clown view, which is anybody who's anti-vax or anybody who even

[00:16:45] questions vax or anybody who even has a concern about vax is a problem.

[00:16:51] That's her view.

[00:16:52] And she's going to stick to it until the cows come home.

[00:16:54] She's not going to be fair or honorable or, okay, you just had a doctor, ma'am, tell you

[00:17:00] that he agrees with vaccines.

[00:17:02] And he thinks vaccines are good.

[00:17:04] But he says, I would like little children to be able to maybe wait a little longer before

[00:17:09] they get vaccinated.

[00:17:10] She can't accept that from a physician.

[00:17:12] She can't accept that from even a pro-vaxxer because that's giving an inch.

[00:17:16] And boy, howdy then.

[00:17:18] Man, if you give an inch to Rand Paul, who's educated and has a concern, what about the next

[00:17:22] person that has a concern?

[00:17:23] And pretty soon you're going to have full anti-vaxxers expressing their views.

[00:17:27] See how dangerous that is?

[00:17:29] No, it's not dangerous.

[00:17:30] The danger is the dishonesty.

[00:17:33] The danger is the lack of transparency.

[00:17:36] The danger is the government deciding what's good and bad, right, wrong.

[00:17:41] And as Rand Paul wisely points out, hey, let people make up their own minds.

[00:17:46] If the truth can be laid out in an honest, transparent, trustworthy way, you won't have

[00:17:51] trust eroded by the debate.

[00:17:53] Not at all.

[00:17:54] All right, it continues.

[00:17:55] In your role on Homeland Security about the implementation of some of the promises Donald

[00:18:02] Trump made on the campaign trail.

[00:18:04] His mass deportation vow is very popular.

[00:18:07] Our CBS polling shows 57 percent of voters like the idea.

[00:18:11] But how it is implemented matters a lot to voters.

[00:18:15] The vast majority prefer that federal law enforcement or immigration agencies carry them out.

[00:18:21] Just 40 percent say the U.S. military should be involved.

[00:18:24] The stated Trump plan is to use the military, military assets, deputize the National Guard,

[00:18:30] and have them act as immigration agents.

[00:18:33] Do you believe that is lawful?

[00:18:36] You know, I'm 100 percent supportive of going after the 15,000 murderers, the 13,000 sexual assault

[00:18:43] perpetrators, rapists, all these people.

[00:18:45] Let's send them on their way to prison or back home to another prison.

[00:18:49] So I would say all points, bulletin, all in.

[00:18:52] But you don't do it with the Army because it's illegal.

[00:18:54] We've had a distrust of putting the Army into our streets because the police have a difficult job,

[00:19:00] but the police understand the Fourth Amendment.

[00:19:02] They have to go to judges.

[00:19:03] They have to get warrants.

[00:19:04] It has to be specific.

[00:19:05] And so I'm for removing these people, but I would do it through the normal process of

[00:19:10] domestic policing.

[00:19:11] Now, I would say that the mayor of Denver, if he's going to resist federal law, which

[00:19:16] there's a longstanding history of the supremacy of federal law, if he's going to resist that,

[00:19:21] it will go all the way to Supreme Court.

[00:19:23] And I would suspect that he would be removed from office.

[00:19:25] I don't know whether or not there'd be a criminal prosecution for someone resisting

[00:19:31] federal law, but he will lose.

[00:19:33] And people need to realize that what he is offering is a form of insurrection where the

[00:19:39] states resist the federal government.

[00:19:40] Most people objected to that and rejected that long ago.

[00:19:44] So I think the mayor of Denver is on the wrong side of history and really, I think, will face legal ramifications if he doesn't obey the federal law.

[00:19:52] Just in context on those numbers you rattled off in terms of criminals, those numbers from ICE are accurate figures, but they're over a 40 year period of time.

[00:20:03] All right.

[00:20:03] Let me stop you there.

[00:20:04] Okay.

[00:20:05] Okay.

[00:20:05] This is where she's a clown.

[00:20:07] Once again, the lady is an absolute clown show.

[00:20:09] Okay.

[00:20:10] So she stops Rand Paul.

[00:20:12] She says, Hey, the 15,000 murderers, the 13,000 rapists and real hardened criminals, about 30,000 criminals.

[00:20:19] She says, those are over about a 40 year period of time.

[00:20:23] So my question to this clown journalist that's supposedly your news lady is this, are the numbers relevant, ma'am?

[00:20:32] And if they are, I want you to explain to me how they're relevant.

[00:20:35] Because these are numbers your government is releasing.

[00:20:39] Now, if they're over 40 years and you're kind of hinting that they're not really relevant, then my response is why release them at all then if they're not relevant?

[00:20:47] Why don't we release relevant numbers of maybe the last two years or five years or something that's more meaningful, more measurable, more applicable to what's going on in the country today, right?

[00:20:59] That's what I'm talking about.

[00:21:01] Okay.

[00:21:01] What about that?

[00:21:02] But see, Rand Paul doesn't beat her up over this, but I would absolutely eat her alive.

[00:21:06] So ma'am, if it's over 40 years, are you suggesting those numbers don't matter?

[00:21:11] And if they do matter, if they don't matter, tell me why.

[00:21:14] Oh, because they're over a 40 year period.

[00:21:15] It's so long.

[00:21:16] I mean, the number is really minuscule, right?

[00:21:17] Okay.

[00:21:17] What's the real number, ma'am?

[00:21:19] Has your government released that to you?

[00:21:21] Why are they releasing this number over 40 years if it's not relevant?

[00:21:24] And if you don't have the relevant numbers, then let's forget numbers for a second in the discussion.

[00:21:29] Anybody who here is illegal and a criminal, I want to be in jail or deported.

[00:21:36] That's simple.

[00:21:37] I don't want criminals amongst the victimized population.

[00:21:43] I don't want the innocents, women and children, to be in jeopardy because of these people.

[00:21:49] I don't want that.

[00:21:50] Do you, ma'am?

[00:21:50] By the way, ma'am, do you want, no matter what the number is, forget if it's 15,000 or, you know, 30,000 or whatever the number is,

[00:21:58] do you want these people running around in our society, ma'am?

[00:22:01] Oh, well, she doesn't answer questions because she's the news lady.

[00:22:04] She's the one that just answers questions.

[00:22:06] And that's another thing we need to absolutely jettison in our society, this idea that none of these news clowns have to answer any questions.

[00:22:13] They just ask all the questions and be jerks, okay?

[00:22:16] Look, if it's over a 40-year period and it's an irrelevant number, fine.

[00:22:20] Why did the government put that number out in such a loose context that it has no meaningful material value, right?

[00:22:30] Okay?

[00:22:30] My next question for her is, hey, what numbers do matter?

[00:22:34] If you're so knowledgeable about the numbers over 40 years, what are the meaningful numbers right now?

[00:22:39] And the meaningful numbers right now is even the government says there's about 11 million illegals in the country.

[00:22:45] Now, many people like me believe it's more like 20, 30 million, but forget those numbers again.

[00:22:50] We don't have factual numbers of how many rapists and criminals and murderers and stuff.

[00:22:56] We don't have any idea.

[00:22:58] So forget the 40-year number.

[00:23:00] Forget what numbers we think we have.

[00:23:02] We don't know.

[00:23:04] But the numbers don't matter.

[00:23:06] And that's the critical point.

[00:23:08] Take X as the number.

[00:23:09] Fill in the blank.

[00:23:11] Whatever number that is.

[00:23:13] Do you want illegal rapists and illegal murderers running around your country free?

[00:23:20] Yes or no?

[00:23:21] And if the answer is no, then the question is how do we properly remove them from society?

[00:23:28] And now we're into a meaningful discussion.

[00:23:31] I agree with Rand Paul.

[00:23:33] We don't want to use the military like Donald Trump is saying.

[00:23:38] We don't.

[00:23:38] And I oppose Donald Trump as well.

[00:23:40] I've been speaking out on this more than anybody.

[00:23:43] I'm glad Rand Paul joins me.

[00:23:45] But look, we want to have these sheriffs, the local county sheriffs in all 3,000 jurisdictions lead this.

[00:23:51] And they can bring anybody in their posses they want to to carry out this deportation effort.

[00:23:57] And we won't deport everyone.

[00:23:59] I'm putting out a video that says justice or mercy.

[00:24:06] Let's talk immigration.

[00:24:09] I'll go over that plan here in just a second.

[00:24:11] And then we'll come back and finish Rand Paul's comments.

[00:24:13] We'll do it all.

[00:24:14] You are listening to the one and only Liberty Roundtable Live.

[00:24:16] But I'm telling you right now, we've got to have sheriffs lead this.

[00:24:18] And local police forces lead this.

[00:24:21] And you know what?

[00:24:21] They can partner with the general government.

[00:24:23] There can be coordination.

[00:24:25] And they might even deputize a few people in the National Guard.

[00:24:28] That's fine if the sheriff deems it in his county necessary.

[00:24:32] When he can use the military on the border, that's appropriate.

[00:24:36] Let's shut down the illegal border, shall we?

[00:24:38] All right, hang tight.

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[00:30:23] Back with you live, Sam Bushman playing comments from Rand Paul, senator from Kentucky, on Face the Nation last Sunday.

[00:30:32] And the clown news babe just showed her ignorance on vaccines, and Rand Paul handed her head to her.

[00:30:39] Pretty good.

[00:30:40] Now they're talking about, you know, the deportation plan of Donald Trump.

[00:30:45] Rand Paul finally joins Sam Bushman.

[00:30:47] I don't know if anybody else is claiming this, but the two of us are saying, look, it's illegal,

[00:30:50] and you can't just flat out use the military against the people in America.

[00:30:55] And so we need to have sheriffs lead the cause.

[00:30:58] I don't hear anybody saying that at all.

[00:31:00] I believe sheriffs need to lead this, and they can deputize whoever they choose in their own counties to carry that out.

[00:31:05] They can partner with the general government and the governors.

[00:31:09] All government entities, jurisdictions, can work in coordination for this, and that's what needs to happen.

[00:31:16] But the sheriffs have the most local of jurisdictions and should take the lead on these discussions.

[00:31:21] Nobody's advocating for that except for me and the CSPOA.

[00:31:24] But I digress.

[00:31:25] I also wrote an immigration plan and did a video that's coming out here in the next day or two on immigration, by the way.

[00:31:31] And I want to kind of summarize my plan really quick, and then we'll go back to Rand Paul's comments.

[00:31:36] My headline for my video is Justice and Mercy.

[00:31:41] Let's talk immigration.

[00:31:43] And I put together a summary of immigration reform plan with an objective.

[00:31:48] And the objective is this.

[00:31:50] The plan seeks to evaluate immigrants based on criminal behavior versus residency status.

[00:32:01] Assisting law-abiding immigrants.

[00:32:03] And you say, well, they're not law-abiding if they're here illegally.

[00:32:05] I know, but we're talking about the only thing they've done is cross the border illegally.

[00:32:11] So, yes, they committed a crime.

[00:32:14] But we can look at regularization for them without granting full amnesty, and that's really the key here.

[00:32:21] All right?

[00:32:22] I have plan highlights to this.

[00:32:23] Think about it this way.

[00:32:24] Is it wrong to steal?

[00:32:26] Absolutely.

[00:32:27] Thou shalt not steal.

[00:32:28] Right?

[00:32:28] We get it.

[00:32:28] We agree.

[00:32:29] However, if you're truly hungry and you're starving and you have no other way to get food and you steal, is it wrong that you stole?

[00:32:37] Yes, it is.

[00:32:38] Should you pay the penalty for stealing?

[00:32:40] Yes, you should.

[00:32:41] But do you blame someone who's starving from stealing?

[00:32:45] Or do you say, circumstantially, you know what?

[00:32:48] The moral high ground said to preserve life is more important than thou shalt not steal.

[00:32:55] Let's get the life part.

[00:32:56] Let's get the life part taken care of, and then let's remedy the steal part.

[00:32:59] Well, the same thing is true here with this immigration discussion.

[00:33:03] Is it wrong to cross the border?

[00:33:04] Yes, it is.

[00:33:05] But many of these people who want a better life are coming because, you know what?

[00:33:10] They've been raped and pillaged and plundered in their own countries.

[00:33:13] Many of them are coming out of desperation.

[00:33:15] So let's talk about the planned highlights because I really want to focus on solutions.

[00:33:19] And I don't know anybody who's written such a succinct plan on immigration as I have.

[00:33:25] How do we temper justice with mercy?

[00:33:27] And I think Jesus Christ gave us the greatest example of all.

[00:33:31] You know what?

[00:33:31] If you won't repent, justice will be your lot.

[00:33:34] But if you'll repent and change and work on it and try to make things right, mercy will be your lot.

[00:33:40] That's the great atonement of Jesus Christ, right?

[00:33:42] He tempers justice with mercy.

[00:33:44] We can do the same thing.

[00:33:46] And my plan highlights exactly how we can do this in a very productive, meaningful way.

[00:33:51] Listen up.

[00:33:52] Ten points.

[00:33:53] One, define the criteria.

[00:33:55] One, define the criteria.

[00:33:56] Clearly distinguish between criminal and non-criminal immigrants.

[00:34:01] Two, create a registration program.

[00:34:04] Initiate a voluntary and temporary disclosure of status for undocumented immigrants or illegals.

[00:34:13] Okay?

[00:34:13] So have them all come forward.

[00:34:15] And you're going to have the criminals that won't come forward.

[00:34:17] But the rest will if they feel like they've been given a temporary disclosure of status.

[00:34:23] They're not going to be kicked out of the country.

[00:34:24] They're not going to be wronged or abused.

[00:34:26] They're going to have a chance to come forward.

[00:34:28] Three, use background checks to ensure no serious criminal activities are present among applicants.

[00:34:39] So if you're an illegal, we're going to deal with you differently than if you can come clean.

[00:34:45] So we're going to do background checks.

[00:34:48] And we can partner with these countries where these people came from.

[00:34:52] And say if you want foreign aid, if you want us to treat you, you know, okay?

[00:34:57] If you don't want tariffs or if you want tariffs to be lower on your country, you will cooperate and you will give us all that you know about these people that have come to our country.

[00:35:05] And if you won't, we're shipping them back and we're going to create massive tariffs on you.

[00:35:09] We're going to play hardball here.

[00:35:10] But if you cooperate, we're going to work with you.

[00:35:13] Four, self-deportation for criminals.

[00:35:15] We flat out tell the criminal you cannot stay here.

[00:35:18] You can't get on the list for any planned workout solution, any mercy forward, because it's not safe to have you in our society.

[00:35:28] Therefore, we will ask you to self-deport.

[00:35:30] If you do, then you know what?

[00:35:33] You can get in line at some point and possibly come to America based on if you –

[00:35:39] But if you will not self-deport and we have to round you up and discover you, then I'm telling you, you will never come to the United States again.

[00:35:47] All right?

[00:35:48] There will be strict shutdown bans on reentry.

[00:35:53] Okay?

[00:35:54] You won't come to America ever.

[00:35:55] So understand that, criminal.

[00:35:59] Five, conditional residency.

[00:36:02] Offer temporary legal status contingent on adherence to specific rules.

[00:36:10] And we'll get into those rules in the next steps here.

[00:36:13] Six, graduated penalties.

[00:36:16] Introduce penalties that are proportional to the – how long the unauthorized stay in the United States was and based on what kind of support you had to have to be here.

[00:36:27] Have you been on the government school dole?

[00:36:29] Have you been in the hospital and having babies?

[00:36:31] Have you been an expense to us?

[00:36:33] And the longer you've been on the expense, the harsher the penalty will be.

[00:36:39] On the other hand, if you've come here, you've worked hard, you haven't really taken much from this country, then we're really more lenient with you.

[00:36:45] Right?

[00:36:45] So graduated penalties is the key here.

[00:36:48] No amnesty.

[00:36:49] Graduated penalties.

[00:36:52] Seven, sponsorships enable residents and citizens to support immigrants through their regularization process.

[00:37:02] Okay?

[00:37:03] And what does that mean?

[00:37:04] Well, if you've been in America because you came here as an undocumented little kid and you didn't have a choice where you went because you were a kid,

[00:37:09] and now you're in America and you're illegal, you've been trying to maybe become a citizen but you can't get it done because the laws are against you,

[00:37:16] but you've worked for an employer and you can show that, hey, you know, I'm on a criminal record and your employer loves you and wants to keep you in the country and will sponsor you so you're not on the dole,

[00:37:25] that's huge.

[00:37:27] So you can have businesses.

[00:37:28] You know, we always say, oh, we can't kick out all the illegals because, man, it will just harm business.

[00:37:32] It'll harm the economy.

[00:37:33] Fine.

[00:37:34] Let these businesses sponsor non-criminals.

[00:37:38] So that way they're not on the dole and they're not costing the taxpayer any money.

[00:37:41] In fact, with a sponsor, then they can work and pay taxes.

[00:37:44] And now they're bringing in money for the country.

[00:37:47] Right?

[00:37:48] Eight, permanent residency.

[00:37:51] Outline a clear path to permanent residency after meeting required conditions.

[00:37:58] So you know what?

[00:37:59] You can eventually become a citizen.

[00:38:01] But you know what?

[00:38:01] You cut in front of the line was your biggest activity, you know, bad move.

[00:38:06] We're going to penalize you for that.

[00:38:07] But if you follow the outlined clear path and you meet the required conditions, there is a way forward.

[00:38:15] There is a mercy plan for you, all of you.

[00:38:18] So any of you who are illegally here, but you're not a criminal, you don't need to fear anything at all.

[00:38:23] Yeah, you'll have some penalties for cutting the head of the line.

[00:38:27] But you know what?

[00:38:27] It's not going to be bad.

[00:38:28] We're not going to divide families.

[00:38:30] Now, if you're part of a family that's related to a criminal, you should kick that criminal out.

[00:38:36] Nine, enforcement strengthening.

[00:38:38] Nine, enforcement strengthening.

[00:38:40] Enhance measures to secure.

[00:38:42] It's like lock down the border and prohibit illegal entry.

[00:38:46] Period.

[00:38:46] End of paragraph.

[00:38:47] That's where the military can come in.

[00:38:49] You know what?

[00:38:49] Sit on that border and say you're not coming across the border.

[00:38:52] It's that simple.

[00:38:53] We will not allow illegals in our country.

[00:38:55] And criminals.

[00:38:56] Now, if you're coming and you have a legitimate reason and you're not a criminal, fine.

[00:39:01] We'll go ahead and take your information.

[00:39:02] You can stay in Mexico or wherever you are and we'll work on a way for you to possibly come to America.

[00:39:08] We'll do the background checks.

[00:39:10] We'll follow the same procedures.

[00:39:12] You will not jump ahead of the line, though.

[00:39:13] That's what we're telling you.

[00:39:14] Number 10, review and adjust the plan regularly to, you know what?

[00:39:21] Make sure that the policy is effective, right?

[00:39:25] Make necessary adjustments.

[00:39:26] There might be slight changes in the details.

[00:39:28] This is a summary plan.

[00:39:29] This isn't the holistic plan.

[00:39:32] The conclusion.

[00:39:34] The approach is structured to balance integrating non-criminal immigrants and upholding strict legal enforcement against those with criminal records.

[00:39:48] Last point, we will enhance both justice and mercy in America that way.

[00:39:52] We can set the standard of truth and say, look, we're not anti-people.

[00:39:57] We're not isolationists.

[00:39:58] We're not saying people can't come to America.

[00:40:00] So you shut the illegal door and you widen the legal entry plan.

[00:40:06] But you have appropriate methodologies to vet and to make sure that when somebody comes here, they're not on the dole.

[00:40:14] They're not a cost to the taxpayer.

[00:40:16] They're not coming here with ill intent, that they're here for the right reasons, that they'll be a productive member of a society.

[00:40:22] And you can use sponsors.

[00:40:23] You can use all kinds of ways to ensure those things.

[00:40:26] There is a path to citizenship.

[00:40:30] You just can't cut in the line.

[00:40:32] That's all there is to it.

[00:40:33] And the last point I'll make on this really quick.

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[00:43:14] Sam Ashley has a solution.

[00:43:16] Justice and mercy.

[00:43:18] Let's talk immigration, shall we?

[00:43:20] All right, so we're back to the Rand Paul interview on Face the Nation.

[00:43:24] And they continue.

[00:43:25] And this lady is just hostile.

[00:43:26] Everything he has to say, she just has to be a contrarian about.

[00:43:30] And can't she just accept his views?

[00:43:33] Wow, it's amazing.

[00:43:34] All right, they continue.

[00:43:35] Now about the immigration authorities who would have to be charged with rounding these individuals up.

[00:43:41] There are just 6,000 agents, 41,000 detention vets to carry out the assignment of rounding up millions of undocumented people potentially.

[00:43:52] How do you suggest they implement it?

[00:43:55] And if this is a red line for you in terms of using the military, would you vote no on the DHS secretary?

[00:44:02] Kristi Noem.

[00:44:05] I will not support and will not vote to use the military in our cities.

[00:44:09] I think it's a terrible image.

[00:44:10] But I will tell you, but just in the last week, with the belief that a new administration will change things, there were four or five criminals arrested in the last week.

[00:44:20] And what would happen, and I think what will happen under Donald Trump's administration is, I don't recommend to use the Army.

[00:44:25] But I would use the FBI.

[00:44:26] I would use ICE.

[00:44:28] I would use Border Patrol.

[00:44:29] And they have a list now of 15,000.

[00:44:31] I don't care if it came in over 40 years or 10 years.

[00:44:34] If you've got a list, you put these people on an all-points bulletin.

[00:44:39] These are the kind of people that are dangerous and that everybody needs to be the watch on.

[00:44:43] And they would go out and seek those people.

[00:44:46] We have about 30,000 very dangerous people already convicted of crimes.

[00:44:50] That should be the first priority for all of this.

[00:44:52] Let's go find those people.

[00:44:53] But it's not about detaining them.

[00:44:56] In all likelihood, they should be going to a jail, either a jail here or in the country they came from.

[00:45:01] So I think if we did that, there will be a lot of unity.

[00:45:03] If they send the Army into New York and you have 10,000 troops marching, carrying semi-automatic weapons, I think it's a terrible image and I will oppose that.

[00:45:12] But it's not that I oppose removing people.

[00:45:14] I just object to what has been against the law for over 100 years, and that's using the Army.

[00:45:19] But deputizing the National Guard, that specifically is the proposal.

[00:45:24] You also oppose that.

[00:45:27] I don't think it's the best way to do it.

[00:45:29] It's less clear whether that's legal or illegal.

[00:45:33] Typically, it has to be done at the behest of the governors.

[00:45:37] I still don't like a militarization of police, whether it's National Guard or Army.

[00:45:42] I think there's a lot of FBI.

[00:45:44] Okay.

[00:45:44] There's a lot of Border Patrol agents.

[00:45:46] There's a better way to do it, and it needs to be individualized.

[00:45:49] That doesn't mean I'm any less serious about getting it done.

[00:45:52] It just needs to be done according to the law and consistent with our traditions.

[00:45:57] Understood.

[00:45:58] All right.

[00:45:59] So he's exactly right.

[00:46:00] He says we need to go to the governors.

[00:46:01] We need to realize the autonomy of the 50 sovereign republics.

[00:46:04] We also need to realize that there are local jurisdictions called counties, and they have a chief executive in that county called a sheriff.

[00:46:11] Now, Rand Paul hasn't mentioned the sheriffs.

[00:46:13] Shame on him for that.

[00:46:15] But look, the sheriff can deputize who he needs to.

[00:46:17] If certain areas that have been sanctuary cities for a long time, and I'll use Denver as my perfect example since the clown mayor over there doesn't want to obey the law.

[00:46:27] Okay.

[00:46:29] And Senator Rand Paul warns Denver Mayor Mike Johnston on deportations and says, hey, if you resist these incoming Trump administration efforts here, you could end up being removed from office and lose your job.

[00:46:42] You've got to obey the law.

[00:46:43] Now, all I'm saying is if the sheriff in that jurisdiction says, hey, we've got to have the National Guard here, there's too many gangs taking over apartment buildings, and there's drug cartels in, say, Phoenix, Arizona or whatever, and we've got to step it up and get the National Guard involved here, then that may be on occasion.

[00:47:02] But that doesn't mean we've got to have National Guard all over the country.

[00:47:05] Every sheriff can enlist his own posse and his own plan, and each sheriff can coordinate with the governor of their state, with the FBI, with ICE, with Border Patrol, with all these agencies, and there can be a coordinated effort.

[00:47:20] And when you think about that, you've got 3,000 sheriffs, but each sheriff's department has many people.

[00:47:24] You combine that with ICE agents, combine that with Border Patrol agents, combine that with maybe the National Guard and certain maybe unique incidences where it's been a sanctuary city, and you've got gangs that are dug in from foreign nations or criminal gangs or whatever, Guatemalan gangs or who knows what kind of thing.

[00:47:41] Okay.

[00:47:41] And now when she throws out these, oh, you got 41,000 this and 6,000 that, none of what she says matters because she's just babbling from stuff that she's heard.

[00:47:50] But you take 3,000 sheriffs and you organize it by county and you add to it these layers of coordinated jurisdictional governments that I mentioned with certain delegated responsibilities.

[00:48:00] Now you're getting somewhere.

[00:48:01] We have plenty of people to do this.

[00:48:03] And as we mentioned, I mean, Rand Paul's just talking about 30,000 people.

[00:48:07] We don't need to just take out millions and millions and millions of people all at once.

[00:48:12] We need to start at two ends of it, the justice end.

[00:48:15] We're going to get rid of the hardened criminals, the rapists and the murderers.

[00:48:19] They're gone.

[00:48:20] They're going back to their countries or they're in prison here, preferably go back to their countries, right?

[00:48:27] Now, the other side of the coin is, hey, what percentage of these people could stay in America and could have a planned way to resolve this?

[00:48:36] You skipped the line.

[00:48:37] You shouldn't have done it.

[00:48:38] There's a penalty for that.

[00:48:40] Based on the burden on society you've basically created since you've been here, that penalty is going to be graduated.

[00:48:46] In other words, the more you've got something for nothing, the more you've taken advantage of our system, the more you've expected the taxpayer to, then the greater your payback and the longer the time is going to be for you.

[00:48:57] Now, I don't think it's fair just to do it how long you've been in America necessarily because if you've been in America and you've worked hard and you've sent money to your family so they don't need to come, just say.

[00:49:06] And you've done very good to where your employer will be your sponsor because they're like, you know what?

[00:49:10] This guy's great.

[00:49:12] Hard-working gentleman.

[00:49:13] He's got a wonderful family.

[00:49:14] Look at his wife and his children are here and his children are in the school and, you know, productive people of society.

[00:49:20] We don't need to worry about those people and round them up in any way.

[00:49:23] We just need to find a way to make it right.

[00:49:25] We need to have the mercy plan in their advocacy in spades.

[00:49:31] That's what we need to do.

[00:49:32] All right.

[00:49:32] Anyway, great stuff.

[00:49:33] Rand Paul continues.

[00:49:35] You've made clear you are a fiscal conservative.

[00:49:38] I want to ask you about the choice just made to select hedge fund manager Scott Besant as a treasury secretary.

[00:49:44] He had a long financial career.

[00:49:47] He served as the chief investment officer for George Soros' funds.

[00:49:51] He's been a political donor.

[00:49:53] Elon Musk came out publicly against him, calling him business as usual.

[00:49:58] Do you favor Mr. Besant?

[00:50:00] I agree with Elon Musk 100%.

[00:50:02] This guy's a clown.

[00:50:03] Who would ever put a George Soros clown in place at the Treasury Department?

[00:50:06] It's disaster.

[00:50:07] This guy's openly gay, too, promoting the perverted agenda.

[00:50:11] Okay, this is out of control.

[00:50:12] Unacceptable.

[00:50:14] Now, I don't hate gay people.

[00:50:15] I'm just saying, look, he's promoting that agenda.

[00:50:17] He shouldn't be using his office to promote that agenda.

[00:50:21] But nevertheless, I digress.

[00:50:23] Who wants a George Soros money thug in charge?

[00:50:26] Let's hear Rand Paul's response.

[00:50:27] In the role as Treasury Secretary?

[00:50:31] You know, I've heard good things about him.

[00:50:33] I haven't made a decision.

[00:50:34] I lean towards being supportive.

[00:50:36] I don't like tariffs.

[00:50:38] But then again, I don't like the president promoting tariffs.

[00:50:40] I think tariffs are a tax on the consumer.

[00:50:43] And they ignore things like with steel.

[00:50:45] Stop that now.

[00:50:46] We're done with that.

[00:50:46] So he goes on.

[00:50:47] I do like tariffs.

[00:50:48] Rand Paul, you don't understand the Constitution on that one, buddy.

[00:50:51] I'm so sorry.

[00:50:52] What you got to do is get rid of the IRS and keep tariffs.

[00:50:54] What you got to do is get rid of all the government taxes and regulations.

[00:50:58] And tariffs are fine.

[00:50:59] Out of control tariffs can be a problem.

[00:51:01] I get it.

[00:51:02] Adding tariffs when you don't get rid of taxes.

[00:51:05] I agree a tariff is a kind of tax, but at least it's an indirect tax.

[00:51:08] And that's what the founders wanted.

[00:51:10] They didn't want any direct taxation.

[00:51:11] They wanted indirect taxation.

[00:51:13] And you better study up on this guy because the second you hear that he's a George Soros

[00:51:17] man, Rand, you should know better and say that clown is going to be part of the deep state.

[00:51:21] And he's literally going to undermine everything that we stand for and believe in.

[00:51:24] Okay?

[00:51:25] Anyway, there you have that.

[00:51:29] I guess the bird flu was found in milk in California.

[00:51:35] They call it raw milk in California stores.

[00:51:37] The stores have a recall issued.

[00:51:41] Newser.com with the piece.

[00:51:43] So here's the deal.

[00:51:44] I reported yesterday about the eggs and the last couple days about the eggs.

[00:51:48] Last week we reported about the hamburger.

[00:51:50] Before that we reported about McDonald's.

[00:51:52] McDonald's and they are slowly but surely, you know, before that we reported about salads

[00:51:57] and onions and this and that.

[00:51:59] And they're starting to create fear.

[00:52:05] And with that fear, they're going to try to deny you liberty.

[00:52:08] They're going to promise you security, but you'll end up with neither security or liberty,

[00:52:11] the founding fathers warned.

[00:52:13] And so we've got to really realize what they're doing here.

[00:52:15] They are trying to acclimate the American people to not believe in safety and food.

[00:52:21] And to get used to and expect shortages.

[00:52:25] It is not good at all.

[00:52:28] All right.

[00:52:29] This is an interesting tidbit.

[00:52:32] Donald Trump Jr. shouted out on X to Elon Musk.

[00:52:36] He said this.

[00:52:38] Hey, Elon Musk, I have the funniest idea.

[00:52:41] Trump, Donald Trump Jr. wrote.

[00:52:45] What's that?

[00:52:46] By what?

[00:52:49] MSNBC?

[00:52:52] Yeah.

[00:52:53] By this network that's melting down.

[00:52:55] Elon fires back.

[00:52:57] How much does it cost?

[00:52:58] Elon responded.

[00:53:00] Who is estimated to be worth about 300 plus billion dollars.

[00:53:06] And so some people are saying, hmm, what's up with that?

[00:53:09] Well, that's what Elon Musk said when it was by Twitter.

[00:53:13] He went, hmm, how much does it cost?

[00:53:15] So the question is, will he really purchase this or not?

[00:53:18] Comcast spinning off some of their failing services.

[00:53:22] Well, they're failing because of like this clown on Face the Nation.

[00:53:26] I mean, she just doesn't get it.

[00:53:28] Doesn't matter what Rand Paul said.

[00:53:30] She's against everything he had to say.

[00:53:32] She was there to undermine him and try to pigeonhole him into her agenda.

[00:53:36] He wouldn't let it happen.

[00:53:37] He was too smart for that.

[00:53:38] He thought for himself and spoke up and, you know, did a good job.

[00:53:42] In most cases, I don't agree with him being against tariffs or whatever.

[00:53:45] But there you go.

[00:53:47] All right.

[00:53:47] But you've got to really ask the question, would Donald Trump doing that?

[00:53:51] You know, Donald Trump is the one that pushed for J.D. Vance in the first place.

[00:53:55] But will Donald Trump Sr.

[00:53:58] turn over the reins of his power and his family dynasty kind of thing to Jr.

[00:54:03] or to J.D. Vance?

[00:54:04] If it goes to Don Jr., the question is, will Donald Trump Jr. run for president in 2028?

[00:54:12] Trump Jr., believe it or not, has 13 million followers on X, 8 million followers on Instagram,

[00:54:20] and his triggered podcast is way popular.

[00:54:24] The question is, will he run for president?

[00:54:26] What will happen?

[00:54:27] Only time will tell.

[00:54:29] We'll keep an eye on that ball.

[00:54:30] Anyway, just thought I'd bring that to your attention.

[00:54:33] All right.

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