Radio Show Hour 2 – 01/22/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman, live on your radio, hard-hitting talk at your fingertips. This is the broadcast for January 22nd in the year of our Lord, 2025, Hour 2 and 2. Promoting God, family, country, protecting life, liberty, and property in the traditions of our founders. That's who we are and what we do.

[00:00:42] Lance Miliacho with me both hours, thebigmig.com. Check it out. He's on Rumble X everywhere. The Big MIG, check it out. We're also going to have Steve Stockman with us, former congressman, in seconds. But look, last hour we were talking about this incredible thing, Project Colossus. Trump announced Project Stargate, a, quote, monumental $500 billion investment in artificial intelligence AI infrastructure.

[00:01:12] It's happening in Texas, folks. Elon and X there. Starlink being related. Yeah, did you know this is Stargate? Anyway, star, star, star. It's all about the stars. They're taking this thing to the stars. This initiative is a collaborative effort within the AI industry. We're talking about everybody involved. SoftBank Corp. Oracle Corp. I believe Google will be involved. Believe it or not, Bill Gates will be involved. We'll get to that in a second.

[00:01:41] But the headline says, Microsoft and OpenAI invest $100 billion in AI supercomputer Stargate. So we're talking about a computer. We're talking about a project. We're talking about a Colossus, pardon the pun, effort to change the world by AI. This is one of the biggest projects you've ever seen. And I'm just telling you, the simple way to understand this increasing computing power, using NVIDIA and everybody else under the sun to get this involved.

[00:02:12] Listen, you think of millions. Then you think of billions. Then you think of trillions. And then you think of what's beyond that. And that's what we're talking about. This will absolutely change the game and marry technologies in ways that you haven't even contemplated. The big takeaway from this, before we turn it over to Lance, in my mind is this. They've already married these technologies. And believe it or not, Bill Gates is involved as well. Lance?

[00:02:41] Well, look, before we took the break, you're going to want to check out the first hour of the show. Because this is a really interesting, and I've got some sources about this. So Project Colossus is Elon Musk's project, which is already completed, are drawing power. It's drawing massive amounts of power every day. It's running strong. Allegedly, in order to power a new version of the Grok AI model chatbot. But way beyond too powerful for that. So there's been a lot of theories out there.

[00:03:09] But what they're doing, of course, Project Stargate. That's the new U.S. government project that was just announced. Although, just announced, but it's already been under construction for quite some time. And there's lots of power players that are, in my opinion, are kind of cross-channeling. Of course, Stargate is being built in Texas, already the hub of where Elon Musk is. So people, let's talk about Colossus for a minute.

[00:03:36] People were shocked about the speed in which Musk put this up. Even the people in NVIDIA talked about it. People were talking, you know, and the NVIDIA CEO is Jensen Wong. He was shocked. He talked about that data center and the 100,000 GPUs. Now, the plan for that center is that it's going to have a million GPUs. The 100,000 GPU operation, you know, which is, for those out there, it's just the computer processors, is just the beginning.

[00:04:05] Musk did this in 122 days. So he built the most powerful AI supercomputer in the entire globe, at least that we know about. Unless there's a government like China or Russia that's built something that they're not going public about. I would assume that China has an operation that I heard about. And I would assume that maybe they haven't announced the sophistication of what they've created. But I don't believe it matches already what Elon Musk has.

[00:04:32] If you're not very careful, you'll discover this worldwide global effort, and they may be involved, too. Maybe. So you look at the supercomputer built in 122 days, incredible, with Supermicro and many others. The power of those chips is unbelievable, and they're supposed to ramp it up to a million. Now, think about that, Sam. Ten times the power of where he's at right now.

[00:04:56] Now, Colossus has not given out – I mean, Project Stargate hasn't shared any of their specs on what the size of their system is going to be. But, of course, we're talking about half a trillion dollars. I think that buys you a lot of computer chips, doesn't it? Say the last part again. You can't get out for me for a second. I apologize. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't know what happened there. I said they're talking about half a trillion dollars on the Project Stargate. It seems pretty – you can buy a lot of chips for that, can't you?

[00:05:27] Well, especially if you're partnering with NVIDIA because they will take that and dump a bunch of that into their research. And so you're not only investigating in the current technology when you do that, but you're also investigating in the future and the growth that takes place with that too. I mean, when you talk about billions and trillions of dollars and everything else, and you talk about this shocking multi-factor increase in computing power, it's hard to even imagine.

[00:05:54] So what we're talking about is marrying AI with this initiative, Project Stargate, using this colossus technology or whatever you want to call it, and creating something like we've never seen before. I mean, Trump, you heard the soundbite last hour. Trump didn't really even know how to talk about this. He just said there's big billionaires that are rock stars in their fields, and they're all coming together.

[00:06:17] He didn't mention Bill Gates, but the headline I have says this, Microsoft and OpenAI invest $100 billion in supercomputer Stargate. So you look at that too and you go, wow, right? Well, this even gets more interesting because Colossus, so they used XAI to design Colossus.

[00:06:46] And I'm being told that it's very possible because of a couple things that got leaked that XAI was also used to design and assist with the development of Project Stargate. Yeah, you put Gates and Musk. You've got one supercomputer helping build another supercomputer. And you have Gates and Musk and Ellison and Oracle and Microsoft. And I mean, I can keep going on and on. But this thing is shocking.

[00:07:13] Let's add Steve Stockman to the mix, former congressman. And he's seeking a pardon by Trump now. Our prayers are that he gets it. Many people have been pardoned. Many people have had their sentences commuted. Steve already had his commuted a couple of years ago. We're grateful for that. And he's free as a result of that. But we've got to take the next step for sure. Steve, welcome back to the show. And your thoughts on this Project Colossus, Project Stargate, all this kind of overlapping with AI.

[00:07:43] Do you know much about that? Yeah, what's amazing, which people aren't talking about, is that they said it's true they used AI to design the computer. And they said it works, but they're not really sure how it works so well. That's an admission that they've already lost a little bit of control. Plus, NVIDIA just came out and said they've got a newer chip that they're developing,

[00:08:07] which will base it some of its software structure in terms of the way when you crypto harvest, you know, when you're mining crypto. They're basing it off of that. So you're going to see a development accelerate at a phenomenal rate. And so the machines are improving themselves to the point that we're losing the ability to know how they're improving it,

[00:08:33] which I think is a little bit disconcerting, at least to me. Hey, man, I might be able to bit mine a Bitcoin in about five minutes, Lance. Well, and that's interesting because that's what a lot of people are talking about. They're talking about the possibilities of what these machines could do, because this is groundbreaking, right? We're talking about your passwords will be gone, but everything can be hacked in a minute. Yeah. And we're talking about quantum computing. Go ahead.

[00:09:00] Yeah. Well, I mean, this is groundbreaking because the convergence of private innovation and government ambition, this is a big deal. And when you take Colossus and think about it as the ultimate partner to the U.S. government's $500 billion project, Project Stargate, I think you really create an unprecedented – it's a fusion, right, of cutting-edge – you've got cutting-edge AI and visionary engineering, and you've got the potential that the computer can self-reinvent itself, meaning that this system would be able to refine, just as you suggested, Steve.

[00:09:29] You know, what's the next chip look like? I don't know. Let's ask Colossus and Project Stargate. They're most likely going to design the next chip, I would think, and they'll probably do it in a way that's never been done before. So when you think about the combination, now you add Starlink to that. You know, the network we have now, the computing power we have now is going to be completely flushed out. Then you add, you know, Elon Musk's other project, Neuralink, you know, the self-driving systems he built through AI for Tesla. I mean, this is – I think this is a pinnacle.

[00:09:59] And then his project – A lot of aspirations here and a lot of potential dangers, Sam. And then his projects on the human brain from Elon Musk tied into this discussion as well, and you go, hmm, wait a minute. Right, Steve? Well, I think there's a certain degree where you start becoming concerned where it's like a knife. A knife can use to cut meat and everything, but it can also kill people. And this technology is the same way. It can be used for solving cancer.

[00:10:29] But a nefarious government like China's hands, it would literally control the world. And more importantly, it would exasperate the use of warfare that we've never seen before. And also, we won't be able to figure out how they're doing it because already China has developed techniques that – with quantum communications that we can't even hack down.

[00:10:55] Well, it's interesting you said that, Steve, because there's a bunch of potential uses of the combination of a system this powerful. Because you look at, for example, one of the top ones would be advanced intelligence gathering. You're talking about a system that can analyze massive amounts of data streams in real time to identify patterns, threats, or even opportunities for national security purposes. So that's really aligning with the objective of some of those that you would think about with – for advanced surveillance.

[00:11:22] I mean, they tried to do it with the Hammer supercomputer and the Hammer exploit right after 9-11. We saw that get developed, and then we saw the misuse of that system by Obama and many others for personal use. Of course, it wasn't ever supposed to be anything other than a foreign surveillance system, and then it was turned on the American public, FISA court judges, and everything else. So that's – in comparison, the Hammer supercute and the Hammer exploit aren't even close to the kind of computing power we're talking here. I mean, predictive analytics.

[00:11:49] Think about the potential for Colossa to protect geopolitical events, economic trends, security breaches. I mean, the evolution of that, you know, thinking they could anticipate outcomes using unconventional methods, whether it be for kinetic events or warfare. I mean, it's pretty frightening, right? And think about enhanced decision-making support. You're talking about – Yeah, so the term they're using for this decision support that you mentioned, just so people understand, is called quantum information science. Correct.

[00:12:19] There's a whole science behind this, and now the computers are getting so smart to where – who's leading the science? Lance? Well, look, I mean, you're talking about the ability to synthesize and translate massive data sets at the highest speeds ever. We're not talking about decades like you mentioned earlier, Sam. We're talking about milliseconds. Yeah. And minutes. And we're talking about the strategic ability to have – you know, you can have the finest committee members,

[00:12:48] and you can have the finest teams in your executive branch of government, but it doesn't come even close. It doesn't matter how many geniuses you have. You can't compete with Colossus and Project Stargate when it comes to the termination of these huge amounts of data. And that's why Clown Klaus over at the World Economic Forum said you won't even need to vote, Steve, because AI will just vote for you, buddy. Well, I think the alarming thing –

[00:13:26] That's frightening. No one thought of that. That was something that was not conceived or predicted. And now we're doing a similar thing. We're creating an intervention. We do not know the pathway this will take. It's going to be amazing and also frightening at the same time. You know, and I have to agree with you, Steve. It's just – you have to wonder because you're talking about a self-learning system.

[00:13:52] It's now being – I just mentioned earlier before you joined us on the show that Elon Musk is already uploading every county, state, federal, you know, law set, every statute, every case determination, every judicial ruling, every judicial quote. I mean, if you name it, all the way back to the founding of the country.

[00:14:14] So the Colossus system is going to have every piece of law that's ever been determined, every discussion online that was related to law. So can you imagine what that does to the legal – Yeah, it's going to have all the details related to the fraudulent attempts to put Steve Stockman in prison over and over and over and the manipulations they took to eventually make that happen against all logic, all rule of law, all common sense, all protections that America has and everything else, right, Steve?

[00:14:44] Well, they actually, in my case, set precedent and made new law because some of the stuff that Jack Smith did was not really on the books. In fact, they used it in charging documents for other cases. And, again, a quick tangent, people like Jack Smith got a hold of this equipment. We'd be in dire shape. Yeah, because he needs to go to prison. Well, there's no doubt for what he did to you because you're talking about ex post facto.

[00:15:11] They're talking about putting something on the books so they can go after you. They're weaponizing the judicial system. At the end of the day, that happens over and over and over again. You know, you were probably – the template that they've used so many times, they might have even used some of your stuff on the J6ers. You know, it doesn't surprise me because the DOJ is a weaponized system. But when you have oversight, when the accountability and consequences come from the OIG, which is a DOJ division, or come from the OPR, the Office of Professional Responsibility, that's a DOJ division,

[00:15:41] or the Civil Rights Division, a DOJ division, or PIN, the Public Integrity Division, a DOJ division. They're supposed to be the ones policing. Yeah, I want to correct you on that. They call it PIN. The actual one is PIS, and they hate you calling it PIS because that's the actual name, Public Integrity Section. And they said quit calling it PIS. Yeah. Yeah, I'm lying. They use PIN, but you're right. I'll have to look that up. I didn't know that, Steve. But think about it.

[00:16:10] You know, is that not the foxes guarding the hen house? I mean, it's incredible. You can't get any – it doesn't matter whether there's prosecutorial misconduct because even when it gets reported, they sweep it under the rug. Absolutely. And so even Joe Biden on his way out warned about this huge techocracy or whatever you want to call it, tech taking over. And Trump, I mean, even in his explanation, we played the soundbite of Trump announcing this last hour. It's already way, way, way over Trump's head.

[00:16:38] And so the problem that we have if we're not very careful is, hey, we'll be ruled by machines backed by globalist elites who don't care at all about the rule of law, about the Constitution, about checks and balances, about borders, about any of that stuff. They don't care, and they have a different agenda.

[00:17:00] And they're even admitting, as Steve brought out, that it's getting above their knowledge set in many ways as well, losing control. So where this ends up, I don't even know how to articulate that, Lance. Well, you know, and when you start looking at these applications, I'm not sure where you can put the checks and balances in this because if you combine this kind of power – because people are talking about what's going to happen of the development, right,

[00:17:29] of nonconventional tools, there's a lot of speculation that once you interface Colossus – in fact, I believe it's already starting to interface with Project Stargate – you're looking at – you know, they're going to be able to explore emerging technologies. Great. We can talk about quantum computing. But what about bioengineering when it's combined with quantum computing, meaning that the computer decides that there's a much more efficient way to create these chips? So you're talking about this exponential growth. Who's going to be able to stop the system from thinking like that?

[00:17:57] The whole idea is it's supposed to be – it's supposed to be sufficient, right? It's supposed to have consciousness in its own way and interfacing. Not full consciousness, but of course that's one of the fears. Does it get that? So think about when you take – let's look at another application. If you use it for counterintelligence and you start to detect things like disinformation campaigns or cyber threats or covert operations or election interference, you think about what it could determine.

[00:18:20] Now, we're hoping that it's going to give us the truth, but doesn't it all come down to the way it's been programmed and to the way that the people that are controlling it? Are we really going to – is it really going to give us the information to say that Joe Biden cheated or that we overturned an election in Venezuela or that we ran an operation in Iraq that we shouldn't have run? Is it going to allow that – because we're talking about national security interests now. Is – you know, where's the line stop? And, of course, the people that control the system, how powerful do they become?

[00:18:53] Yeah, absolutely. I think we need to be aware of what we're stepping into, and I don't think we are. There's not enough discussion. And thankfully you guys are discussing, but there needs to be a whole lot more discussion. And I can tell you I was just – I introduced a cryptocurrency bill 11 years ago, and my colleagues were baffled by it, and there's still some are baffled by it. So this kind of stuff coming out now, they need to catch up quick, and they can't live with their head in the sand

[00:19:22] and be ignorant of what's going on. But most of them, unfortunately, are. Well, and then you add to this some of the nanotechnologies, and then you add to this that many of these people believe that we need to tap this into your brain. So you're ready to put the connector on your skull there, Lance? I'm definitely not ready to do that. I don't trust any of this stuff. I'm definitely going to be the guy that's going to be hunkered down, not allowing that. Don't you just want to swallow a little piece of nanobody that can just make it happen? And that's the point.

[00:19:52] I mean, if you start talking about the nanobots, you might not even be asked to interface, to have your consciousness interfaced. You wouldn't even know it. Yeah, you wouldn't even know it happened until it was too late. At the end of the day, you know, you're talking to, you know, let's go into even the remote monitoring, you know, and reconnaissance. You're talking about advanced sensor integration, signal analysis. You know, you could enhance monitoring capabilities across physical and, of course, digital. Think about the electromagnetic spectrums that we don't even really pay attention to because,

[00:20:22] let's face it, if you start looking at the human body and how it interfaces, you know, how it works on electrical impulses, you have to wonder what would this computer be able to do? Because there are all other levels and signals of communication. Just like Steve talked about that the Chinese have a communication system that's using quantum computers that we don't even really fully understand. I know they developed as an interesting thing. The NFSC tipped me off on something, which is the new federal state of China for the audience. They're the non-CCP.

[00:20:51] Extremely a great group of people. They're operating in New York. They used to be funded by Miles Guo. Of course, there's that horrible case that the DOJ went after Miles Guo that I think was unfounded. But they've got the Chinese invented a liquid polymer mine that is basically nanobots that's clear and floats on the surface, and it can be activated by cellular communication or other forms of communication and or proximity. And you can't even see it. It floats right on the surface of the water.

[00:21:20] Yes, I got a question. And that was created by quantum computing, I'm told. Yeah, it was created by this. Listen, the intersection of quantum information science and bioengineering. And so you've got to ask the question, what's in Greenland that they need? Lance? You know, you know what my fear is. It's hard to even respond to that because my fear is, you know, that integration becomes

[00:21:48] so complete if you take bioengineering or you take chemical engineering and you combine it with this version of quantum computing. The chips we have now are man-made. I'm not saying they're not using AI to invent newer ways to make them faster. If you think about it, NVIDIA coming out with that second chip that Steve talked about, look how quickly that came out. You know, it was announced at CES and it's everywhere. Yeah. I mean, here's the point. You start looking at the speed of which things are happening.

[00:22:15] That interface of speed is going to become, you know, the growth of it. You're not going to be able to measure it because now imagine if you're designing, if Steve had a design for a new project, he could dump it into Colossus and Colossus could probably efficiently design the whole manufacturing plant, design the business plant. 3D, print that sucker, the whole bit right on down the line there. And here's your prototype, Steve. Exactly. A little prototype, a little architectural building. Steve gets it all done in maybe a few minutes and then he goes out and raises money.

[00:22:43] I'm saying, but you're also, you know, it's really, this is crazy. It is crazy, folks. And we wanted to kind of tease you with this. We will be talking about this over the next several years with Lance and many other critical people. I'm not telling you I know more about it than others, but I do have a little bit of an affinity for this. So I get it, right? But let me just throw out something that I really want you to kind of think about at the end of this discussion now. All right? I don't know if you know, but Microsoft has a bunch of features in their Windows operating systems.

[00:23:12] And those features are buried under layers and layers and layers of stuff. And IT guys from version to version of the operating system can't even remember where things are. I'm one of them. It's like, dang it, I know how to do this, but I can't find out where to go. I don't know if you know this, but there's a little thing that you just type in God Mode Windows. If you type in God Mode Windows to Google, you can download a little thing called God Mode. And it will install on your computer and it will give you a little folder with all the things that you can't find. Right? In a big list. So that you can do everything as an administrator.

[00:23:41] It's called God Mode. Here's the question for you. Are they playing God Mode? Is that where this is headed? Is this the Tower of Babel and IT merging to create a new world? Just wanted to whet your appetite for that. Tease your brain a little bit. You're listening to the one and only Liberty Roundtable Live. And you've got an MMA fighter, a blind IT guy, and a former congressman breaking it all down for you.

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[00:30:12] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, former Congressman Steve Stockman with us. Lance Miliacho, the big, big, with us as well. Yours truly on your radio. Right before the pause, we talked about all this stuff. End of last hour, start of the first hour. Check out the sections. We're talking about this incredible initiative.

[00:30:41] Open AI, teaming up with everybody else. Project Stargate, Operation Colossus, Microsoft, and Open AI invest $100 billion into the supercomputer Stargate. Where that relates to when it's Gate, that's Bill Gates probably. Star, that's Elon. Everybody's involved. What is Project Colossus, you may ask?

[00:31:08] Quantum computing, quantum communications solutions, the intersection. of quantum information science and quantum bioengineering. My question to end this topic is this. Is this the next gen of Bill Gates-driven God mode? Is this where the Tower of Babel and IT merge in modern times? Well, I know this. Jesus will return.

[00:31:36] And I know that God will not let these thugs take away our agency. It's over Biden's head. It's over Donald Trump's head at this point. And Steve Stockman highlighted, you know, Biden's only mad and warning about it because he didn't get to abuse it. Amen to that reality check. Speaking of abusing power, they abused power when they put Steve Stockman in jail. They tried and tried and tried. Forget this, you know, what do they call that thing when it's, hey, you don't get to try people over and over.

[00:32:04] Double jeopardy, triple jeopardy, quadruple jeopardy. That's what it took to abuse Steve so wrongfully. Steve, are you going to get a pardon? Did you get to meet with Trump? I know you met with Mike Johnson, right? Yeah, we handed off to Mike our positions. And I should say it was well documented what happened to us. There's over 90, I think 92 or so many conservative groups that have called for my pardon.

[00:32:34] Including Liberty Roundtable Live and Liberty News Radio, by the way. That's right. Correct. And leading conservatives that read the document, such as yourself, know that Jack Smith abused his power. He abused it against Trump. He abused it against John Woods and other conservatives. And Jack Smith should be in prison. And all those that were persecuted by him should be released immediately.

[00:33:03] And pardon because it is a society that cannot stand when you have abuse such as that. Amen. Are you going to get a pardon, do you think? We need this to happen. We need you to be free to do what you want. Either support what we're doing or run for office or get on the radio. Or, you know, we cannot have folks like Steve that will stand up against the clown Lois Lerner over at the IRS and take a beating for it. We need Lerner in prison. We need these guys to be accountable, Steve. I agree.

[00:33:33] I have a demically sword above my neck. And the DOJ, prior to Trump taking over, has been pursuing me all these years. Even though I was granted clemency, they still have the power to persecute anybody that's not pardoned. And that's why it's important for me to get a pardon and all those others that become victims of a corrupt system.

[00:34:00] And actually, to be honest with you, the prison system should not be tied to the DOJ because they're the people that put you in prison. And then they're still able to abuse you once you go to prison. So it's quite a crooked system. And they need to reform it. And they need to really let go, not just me, but all these guys that are. I was happy to see the J6ers who are also wrongfully convicted and their civil rights abused.

[00:34:30] And that was the right thing to do. And same goes for our friend Ross Huberk, who was just pardoned yesterday. But I hope and pray and your listeners pray that they can communicate with Trump in any way. Help with my pardon. I'd greatly appreciate it. And I can get back on my soapbox and start speaking more freely. Our prayers are that you get that done. Our dear friend Stuart Rhodes just got released.

[00:34:59] He had a lunch breakfast, or I should say a breakfast with the Gateway Pundit Jim Hoff friends over there. And he basically said, hey, he got his sentence committed. That's why he's out now. But he is looking for a pardon as well. And they're going to persecute him just like you. Yep. So these guys that are, and myself included, who have been wrong, the only way they can be made whole is through a pardon.

[00:35:24] And the next thing we need to do is to throw those in jail that are responsible for the corruption of our justice system. This is a blatant abuse of power. And as I referenced to you earlier, the only reason Biden's worried about big computing is because he wanted to abuse it. And now he doesn't get the chance to abuse it. And we need to hold him accountable. Lance? You know, this came out in the news. You guys may not have seen this. But what's really awful is that a lot of these people have gotten their pardon.

[00:35:54] But now some of these left-leaning governors are talking about trying to bring state charges using their Soros back. You know, attorney generals. Yeah, in fact, California raised $50 million to get started and passed it by their legislative body already. I mean, that's just awful. At the end of the day, what we really need to do is what Steve said. We have to really expose all the criminals of the J6 committee.

[00:36:21] We have to expose all the lies, you know, expose all the FBI infiltration and what they were really doing in trying to, you know, ramp up that crowd at J6. But Steve's case is really – it's really so important that they make some massive changes. Because I think absolute immunity is one of the worst things that these prosecutors get to use to their advantage to violate the law. You've got qualified immunity and absolute immunity. In my opinion, the only person that gets absolute immunity is God. Other than that, this shouldn't occur.

[00:36:49] And the fact that when you do get wronged that you have to ask the federal government if you can file a tort claim. And it's a process of you waiting six months for a response that's generally no. And then you have to move forward without the support of them saying, yeah, you're right, you got wrong. They listened to your legal phone calls or they hid Brady material or Giglio material or exculpatory evidence. They destroyed the rest of it. But no, they don't give you approval to sue them. So think about that.

[00:37:16] The DOJ has to approve you having the right to sue when you've had damages done. That's just the craziest thing to refer to. Well, and that's why the Department of Justice is criminal. It needs to be shut down. It isn't about justice at all. It's about manipulation and playing favorites, Steve. Yep. And I think, though, that he's absolutely right.

[00:37:38] We've got to modify the law to where those that are held liable, I mean, that have liable to us and criminally acted against us. There has to be some recourse. And right now there's none. So in essence, they're above the law. They're untouchable. Correct. And that's ridiculous because I think it's too much power, right? At the end of the day, it's too much.

[00:38:02] You're making them have this ability to do whatever they want, whenever they want, with no consequences for their actions. And I don't think anybody should have that kind of authority. You're absolutely spot on. But it's not what our founders ever envisioned either. Frank, they would stand against this. And really, principally, all Americans should stand against it, what they've done. It's horrible.

[00:38:29] Well, until people have gone up against it. $22 million. Go ahead. Well, here's the thing, Steve. Until people have had to deal with the consequences of being on the other side of a DOJ indictment, they don't know any better. We aren't taught this stuff in the school system. They don't want us to be educated about the law. Let's face it. Even the legalese, MIT did a study that legalese is intentionally created in a manner so that you won't really understand that. Because they're creating a hierarchy, right?

[00:38:58] They're creating the DOJ and the Bar Association. It's all about control. Right. It is a control. Exactly. It is all about control. That's exactly my point. Other than that, it's not so bad. It was timid. Yeah, well, the thing was, I think they prosecuted me to make sure other congressmen fell in line. And, you know, as it is now. Yeah, don't you dare run off the reservation like old Steve did. I'll tell you that right now. Right? Well, yeah.

[00:39:25] And they're already timid, afraid of the press. And what they did to me, they frankly come out and set it right out. My dear friend Dana Robach, a great conservative, told me, Steve, you've got to stop pursuing this thing. He said, you'll end up dead or in prison. And unfortunately, he was right. But I said, we shouldn't leave in a country where a congressman can't speak up against corruption and have to pay a penalty for speaking up against what they did. And think about that. But that's part of it, right?

[00:39:55] The threats, the coercion, the bribery. Hey, Steve, if you keep this up, we're going to supersede your indictment. Hey, Steve, you're looking at this much time. But if you don't take the plea deal we're offering, we're going to do this to you. And we're going to go after your family. And we're going to take more of your resources. It's threat, coercion and bribery. Listen, let's dump this into Colossus. Let's ask Colossus if it's even possible to have a 96 or 98 percent conviction rate if you're not cheating. You tell me that.

[00:40:23] Yeah, it's just like the Soviet Union. They have the same system in a lot of ways where they threaten and make you voluntarily admit to something you've never done. Yeah, and that's supposed to be that we're supposed to look at the Eastern Bloc countries and say, well, this isn't a legal system. We want the founders and framers. The grand experiment said that we weren't going to have. It was supposed to be a subject matter that was specific.

[00:40:49] When they created the Constitution, when the federalists, the anti-federalists, when they prepared all the documentation and they were having these discussions, the idea was to limit federal government. It was only supposed to be specific. The subject matter of federal criminal cases was supposed to be limited to 17 subject matters. Ford stocks, arsenals, 200-mile district of the water, crimes against the postal, crimes against actual coin, not the fiat currency, crimes against ambassadors. It was supposed to be restricted and everything else was supposed to be left of the states.

[00:41:18] But then, of course, along comes the idea, which was a long time coming, the Commerce Clause, which they've created this unlimited jurisdiction of subject matter related to the Commerce Clause, right? They're saying that the 200-mile district of the water goes all the way into the country and everything in commerce they have control of, which is the biggest bunch of garbage whatsoever.

[00:41:38] None of these cases, drug cases and all the rest of this stuff that goes to the federal government and the DOJ sticks their hand into to get their piece of the pie, along with all the other federal agencies, the ATF, the DEA, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, they all reach in there because we've given them this tool, which should have never happened. And, in fact, it's unconstitutional, non-constitutional.

[00:42:01] And the way that they operate in the Admiralty Maritime jurisdiction of law is that they believe they have the right to come after anybody for anything they want to do. And that was never supposed to be what our criminal justice system was supposed to be related in relation to the federal government. Amen. Steve, let's do this. Let's let you fly. I know you've got a lot cooking. I want to have you back on in the next several weeks, keeping an eye on what's happening.

[00:42:26] I don't know what I can do to help you get to the right people and get a pardon, but I'm going to pull all the strings that I possibly can. We've got to do this for you and Stuart Rolls. Both of you are heroes, American heroes, and you deserve our support and defense in every way possible. Steve, what is it? Steve works for you? Yes, the number four. Steve works for you is the hashtag to keep up on what Steve's doing. And we'll have you back on. There's so much crime, so much criminal activity.

[00:42:55] I'm afraid that the swamp might swamp Donald as well. And I pray the answer is no, and I pray you get a pardon before that happens. But I just look at all this and I say, I don't know how many of these people are Trump's friends, but we found out last time very few of them. And I'm afraid we're going to see similar this time as well. Thank you, Steve. God bless you guys. Hang in there. Talk to you soon. All right. Lance, quick issue. Now they say Elon Musk turns on Trump. I don't think it's a turning on Trump, but there you go.

[00:43:26] AmericanNewsNation.com. I'm not sure anything about this story, so go ahead and fill me in. AmericanNewsNation.com has an article that says Musk exposes potential problem with Trump's big Stargate announcement. The companies that made the announcement do not have the funding to follow through with the pledge, the Wall Street Journal reports.

[00:43:52] I know they say that, but when you get this kind of people in a room, Bill Gates and all these different big people and everything else, hey, they've partnered with the governments in the past and everything else. And I don't think that you can make a statement that we don't know if they've got the money or not. And even if they don't have it, they can get it. Make that no mistake, ladies and gentlemen. So I appreciate the arguments in the popular rags like the journals and everything else. But I'm telling you, I don't think that's going to stop anybody, Lance.

[00:44:20] Listen, I just I don't believe that that, you know, all of a sudden, oh, Elon Musk turned on Trump. I think that, you know, it's very possible Elon, you know, is looking at some of this release. OK, if I was Elon Musk, let me just cut to the chase. If I was Elon Musk and they came out with some of this press announcement, I know why Trump did it. I know why the other guys did it. You know, maybe that wasn't what he wanted to see happen.

[00:44:46] Maybe he wanted to keep this thing closer to the vest because let's face it, the connection I made, I won't be the last be the last person to make that connection. But you start looking at the details. Yeah. And so I want to say that clearly, if I was Musk, I'd probably try to put some disinformation out there to kind of cloud the environment because I wouldn't necessarily want anybody to know. Because, for example, I posted some of this information on X. It got no traction at all, which means it's probably a suppressed because I would think that that article would have, you know, that.

[00:45:15] Yeah, we just shadow banned you really hard there on that one, Lance, because we had to, you know, that kind of stuff. All right. I want to move to a couple of other topics really quick. You've got a story with a soundbite. It has to do with the inauguration and how women kind of went to the event there, Lance. Yeah. Well, you know, it's a funny story. And you brought up that you kind of threw me off when you brought up the Joe Biden sniffing routine.

[00:45:43] That could have been that could have been you could have hooked it with this story. So, of course, Megyn Kelly came out. We saw there's a whole bunch of photos being promoted where Jeff Bezos, his fiancee, Lauren Sanchez, wore, I guess, an exposed either a corset or a lace bra. And there's a shot that somebody caught of Mark Zucker trying to trying to look down her top. But Megyn Kelly came out, just roasts her and says she looked like a hooker.

[00:46:12] So this is a crazy story. We've got a soundbite. Nobody does. Nobody does a good roast like Megyn Kelly. We might as well just let her go with it. But she's talking about, you know, Bezos's girlfriend coming out in lingerie. Why would you go to the inauguration with your boobs hanging out? She knew it. And she's like, you can see her on your boob. Megan's right. I mean, this story gets a little bit salacious. We've got to be careful how we want to talk about it. This is a family program. But this is the problem, though. This is what's parading in public in, in my opinion, what you want to call.

[00:46:41] In a really important event. Super, like, what do you want to call it? Professional event. I mean, if you're going to an event like this, you should be the most professional, well-dressed, appropriate that you could be. Here's the soundbite. We'll talk about it. Listen to this. She looked like a hooker. At the inauguration, she wore a corset and she had her boobs on display. I can't with this woman. They were, the girls were out.

[00:47:10] Look at this. Look at this. I can see the middle of her boobs. I can see her under boob. Like, right there. This is absurd. She couldn't even keep them covered up for a day. And all over at the X was a picture of Mark Zuckerberg. He knew where the action was at. I don't blame him at all. I do. Mark Zuckerberg is married, Lance.

[00:47:40] No doubt. No doubt. Of course, I'm pretty sure this is the effect that Bezos' girlfriend wanted to have. You know, she's in the limelight. Oh, for sure. You know, she's a big deal now. She's riding on Bezos' incredible amount of press and money. But I don't think it was a good choice. I think, you know, if you look at Melania as an opposite version of how incredible she looked at the inauguration, how incredible she looked at the balls.

[00:48:09] I mean, just grace and style and class. She just exuded it. And this is the opposite of that. And I think if you're going to the inauguration, I think you have to be conscious, especially if you're a known figure. You have to be conscious of what you're doing. And let's face it, Zuckerberg wasn't the only one. There's a couple other individuals. I don't know who they were that were trying to sneak a peek. And, you know, she seemed like she was oblivious to all of it. But I don't think she was oblivious. I think she likes the attention, Sam.

[00:48:36] Yeah, and Joe was too busy trying to smell Melania and grab Melania around the waist and everything else to even notice the other action going on there. The thing's just a disgrace, ladies and gentlemen. And this is what our society's turned into. And I'm telling you right now, if we blatantly have that disregard, where are all the women now, by the way, that should say she shouldn't appear like that in the first place, like Megyn Kelly did. Good for her. But where are all the other women now to go after Mark Zuckerberg and say, how dare you, and everything else?

[00:49:06] I mean, there's two sides to this. And both of them, they're equally whacked out wrong. Listen, for sure. And I think when you're in an environment, when you know there's going to be family, and everybody around the globe was watching that. Is that really the way you want to be presented to the public? I would say certainly not. But obviously, that's the way she wants to be presented. And that's the way what? Is it Jeff's girlfriend, right? Yeah, it's Jeff Dezos. Okay, so Jeff obviously is fine with it.

[00:49:34] Because, I mean, the second you get with her, it's like, honey, you're going to have to put on a cardigan, sister. You're going to have to. I don't know, but you're going to hold on a minute. We cannot do this. You would think that he would say that to her, but again, nothing. And where's all the women? When Mark just kind of leers at her and everything else or whatever, starts to try to. Where is everybody on this? I don't know. I just find this incredibly crazy, to say the least. By the way, Melania Classy.

[00:50:03] She's promoting her Be Best campaign. I don't know if you know this right now, Lance. And her Be Best campaign is to stop bullying and help children use social media safely and all this kind of stuff. It's a great program. And so I decided that what we ought to do is fire the National Press Club, fire the press corps, and let Melania do the Be Best Press. And then we can just work with Melania, and we can have appropriate press conferences on the web. She can send out every morning an update via the stories that they want to focus on

[00:50:33] with links to people where we can get interviews in the new media taking center stage. And we'll call it Be Best Press. And I registered BeBestPress.com to help. I love the idea. I don't think the old press corps, with what they did lying to the American public, They don't deserve to exist. Colluding against the American public. They don't deserve to be part of the press corps. In fact, they should be just stomped down into oblivion. Well, you can either do that, or you can just have the press corps and just lie to them like Joe did all day long.

[00:51:00] Just lie to them and then issue the real news through us. Yeah, but here's another idea. You could have that press corps, right? But you take all the mainstream media, and they get put in a basement room. They get put in the basement, and then all they get to do is, every once in a while, somebody will bring down a piece of paper that they can share and look at. See, that's what I'm talking about. Anyway, I created BeBestPress.com. I'm working on the website right now. It's going to be BeBestPress.com, and I'm trying to reach out to Melania right now. Let's help her. Yeah, I agree. She'd be great.

[00:51:30] I'd love to have her on the show. I'd love for her to come on Liberty Roundtable Live. I'm just saying we can get started somewhere. All right, I know we don't have enough time, and we got derailed by our quantum computing discussions and everything else. Any final quick stories or things you want to highlight really quick, Lance? Yeah, you know, listen, at the end of the day, I think you've got to pay attention to the news cycles right now. There's a lot of crazy stuff going on. Trump's executive orders, the dirty 51 plus 8, are paying the price. They lost their security clearances. Of course, you know about that from the Russian clues and hoax.

[00:51:58] John Bolton's Secret Service deal was pulled as soon as his Secret Service, his clearance, his security clearance was pulled. That relates back to all the trash talking and, of course, that book. And that's good, but that's not enough for me, Lance. I want these clowns in prison. Well, I agree with you, but I want to tell you that if you start reading, I would recommend you go over to the presidential, take a look at these presidential actions. Go to the website, take a look at it. If you start reading these actions, I'm not saying it's going to bring us to the accountability and consequences we want yet,

[00:52:25] but there are a lot of teeth in these dogs that he's putting up here. There's a lot of power in these. Now, is he going to use it? I can't tell you that, Sam. But he is setting the groundwork to maybe really do something. So we'll see what happens. It's kind of a wait and see thing at this point. You're right. And I hope he uses it. I know a lot of it's going to be challenged at every turn. That's for sure. These clowns have plenty of money, and they're going to challenge it at every turn from the state level

[00:52:54] all the way up to the ACLU, challenging now Trump saying, hey, you just can't have an anchor baby here. That being challenged by the ACLU right now as we speak. Doge, you've already got Vivek Ramaswamy that bailed from Doge. You can say, well, he wants to run for governor of Ohio. No problem. Might be true. Might be more to that than we think. You know, hey, is Doge going to not be near as effective? He already said we were going to save, you know, $2 trillion. Now Musk has already said, oh, it might be a trillion. And now Vivek's running from it.

[00:53:24] And you've got a bunch of liberal prosecutors that want to bring cases against Doge. I mean, I don't know. They're already talking about lawsuits. What a waste of time. So we'll see how this goes down. I know this. Our goal is to promote God, family, and country. And anybody on that true, pure mission is a friend of ours. Anybody who's against that mission and or pretends they're for that mission, we need to expose, jettison, and stand against with every fiber of our beings, Lance. 100%.

[00:53:55] Other than that, you're listening to Liberty Roundtable Live, ladies and gentlemen. Is there another talk show like it on the planet? By the way, check out my video shorts. They're libertyroundtable.com, lovingliberty.net. Spread the word. Share the love. Also check out The Big Mig. X. Rumble. Liberty News Radio. Everywhere. Thebigmig.com. Lance, thank you, brother. Hey, thank you, Sam. Two hours of a hard-hitting talk, ladies and gentlemen. I know you've got a little hiatus until we come on the radio tomorrow. Dr. Bradley, let's see, tomorrow's Thursday.

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