Radio Show Hour 2 – 02/05/2025

[00:00:12] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, ladies and gentlemen, happy to have you along. Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard-hitting news the network refused to use, no doubt, continues now. This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for February the 5th in the year of our Lord 2025.

[00:00:38] This is Hour 202, Promoting God, Family, Country, Protecting Life, Liberty, and Property, and Doing It So on your radio. Stuart Rhodes with us last hour, dishonestly convicted of, quote, seditious conspiracy. That's what they claim, ladies and gentlemen. You want to learn more, StuartRhodes.substack.com. Also, he mentioned after, and this is my dereliction of duty, I guess. I don't know. I apologize. He has a Give, Send, Go, and we need you to donate to it big time.

[00:01:06] Give, Send, Go.com, slash, and then G as in golf, A as in alpha, F as in foxtrot, five, that's the number, B as in Bravo. I put it in the show notes as well. Just look in Google for Stuart Rhodes, Give, Send, Go, and you'll find it as well. He needs to raise $100,000. Remember, they stripped these people of everything they had, folks. These people have lost everything. Many of these people didn't even have places to go when they got out.

[00:01:35] Thank heavens, Stuart did. But look, they've only raised $30,000 of the $100,000. What would it take for you to get all back on your feet and stuff like that? To me, it would be significant to say the least. Now, here's what it says on the Give, Send, Go. Give, Send, Go. Stuart Rhodes needs help. Stuart Rhodes is an innocent, listen,

[00:02:01] wrongly convicted, nonviolent, J6 political prisoner, ladies and gentlemen, who was serving an unjust 18-year sentence after he refused to plead guilty to crimes he did not commit. Seditious conspiracy being the worst of several absurd false charges.

[00:02:27] And he refused to bear false witness against President Trump or anybody else. Give, Send, Go.com slash GAF5B. Anyway, donate liberally. Today, would you please, is the only time I believe in liberalism, when you donate to all of us to help us with our incredible work. Speaking of that, James Edwards with me, the politicalcesspool.org, an incredible talk show host in his own right. Welcome back, brother. Sam, this, welcome back indeed.

[00:02:57] It is an entirely different world than it was the last time I was on this show. I believe I missed our last engagement because I was out of town. And so the last time I was on was prior to the most recent inauguration. And you look at the things that have happened in the last three weeks, and it just doesn't even feel like it's real. It feels like we're in some sort of a dream that we're going to wake up from on so many levels.

[00:03:24] And I'm not saying, look, everything is perfect and that everything is cured. Absolutely not. But in terms of the trajectory that this country has been on for all of my life and certainly well into the lives of my father and grandfather, we have been on the wrong track for a long, long time. And it seems like we've survived the long night, and this is what it's like to experience the dawn in many ways. And I'm sure that you're... Hey, man, well, as Stuart Rhodes said, the Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA,

[00:03:53] I mean, these have been criminalized, weaponized organizations right from the get-go. So that's a long time, buddy. This is something that I wanted to touch on immediately. I mean, first of all, what a fantastic interview and a great and well-spoken guest in Stuart Rhodes. I can't even imagine what it must have felt like because he was one of the most harshly punished J6ers, and you covered that case. But imagine being sentenced to the better part of two decades in prison,

[00:04:21] and then you wake up one morning and you're free. You get the word that you're going to be released, and that is what Donald Trump did. And that was really the first thing he did, and all credit is due to him for that. These people would have languished in prison forever had it been anyone else, anyone else. Unless it was Sam Bushman. Then I would have already pardoned Stuart Rhodes, but you're right. Anyone else that was perhaps likely to be president. That's right. Yes.

[00:04:47] But no, you were talking about the FBI and the CIA and the restitution that these people like Stuart Rhodes are, I think, entitled to, that they deserve. Entitled might not be the right word. That carries a negative connotation. But they certainly are due some sort of recompense for this heinous miscarriage of justice. Well, we've ruined their lives so much on a fraud that they need reparations.

[00:05:13] I'm not really a slave reparations guy by any means because, you know, hey, nobody was a slave today unless you're a slave to the IRS. Now all of us need reparations, but I digress. All I'm telling you is these people need to have us help them build their lives after the dishonest, flat-out criminal takedown. That's what we're talking about. Losing your livelihoods, losing your job, losing your freedom, and in many cases losing your families.

[00:05:36] We had on the program, my program, week before last, a J6-er by the name of Christian Secor. He sat in Mike Pence's chair. He had a great story. He was sentenced to some years in prison and, of course, was pardoned with everyone else. But this was a kid who was a student at UCLA at the time. So you're talking about taking away, you know, three or four of the most important years of your life when you're just getting started.

[00:06:03] And, of course, everybody, it's calamitous and terrible no matter what your age. But, I mean, just all of these stories. And one of the things that I am so happy about, Sam, to see what Trump is doing along with Elon Musk is going after really, truly the deep state, going after this U.S. aid organization, cutting out. I mean, 20,000 government employees have taken their buyout. I mean, that is draining the swamp. And look at all of the resources that are going to be. It is. It's not enough, but it's an incredible start.

[00:06:33] It's a start. I mean, it's not even been a month. And I'll just give you just a couple of numbers here. And what I like about Elon Musk, what he's doing here, and this ties right back into what we were talking about with Stuart Rhodes. I'll make this very quick. But he is looking at not just the big cuts. I saw a report on Sean Hannity that my wife sent me on Sean Hannity's TV show on Fox. And this goes to show you the depths to which Elon Musk is scouring the rot and the graft.

[00:07:02] And just a couple of examples here. And $20 million to put on a Sesame Street show in Iraq. $56 million to boost tourism to Tunisia. $45 million for a DEI program in Burma. But it gets down to, in the scheme of the federal government, those are small ticket items, believe it or not. But, I mean, what could you do with $20 million on this radio network?

[00:07:31] But how about this? It's $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland. $47,000 to put on a transgender opera in Columbia. And so the fact that he's getting down to those kinds of numbers and those kind of expenditures I think is wonderful. You look at all this money that is going to be cut. There's money right there for your Stuart Rhodes, for your Christian Secours, for these 1,500 hostages that were taken. Yeah, our buddy Jake Lang, who we just had on as well.

[00:08:00] Listen to this. Jake Lang was a political prisoner. He's now running for office in Florida as a Senate candidate. J6rebuild.com to learn more about what he's doing on that. But he was criminally held, listen to this, for four years and six days without bail. And without a trial. This violates the Sixth Amendment. He had 900 days in solitary confinement.

[00:08:28] Now, just so you know, Jake Lang didn't even have to be pardoned because they realized his sentence was so wrong. He just got let go. How does that even happen in America, James? A lot of things have happened, and it was getting worse. And you use the term clown show all the time, and it's so true. And then now I don't, you know, Sam, I've been doing this all of my adult life. You've been doing it longer than that.

[00:08:55] And I look at the things that have happened since January the 20th in utter astonishment. And it's, I don't even really understand, even though I've done this my whole life as a commentator on the radio, how all of this could happen and all at once. This just political blitzkrieg. While the Democrats and the left are disorganized and on their heels, Trump is just flooding the zone with so many executive orders on all fronts.

[00:09:24] And I think, you know, 95% of them have been things that I would do and certainly in favor of and things I haven't even considered doing. He's got a hell of a team in place. And I hope that this is something that is addressed, though, going forward, is that now that they're free, you know, that doesn't mean that they just walk right back into a wonderful life that they might have had before January the 6th of 2017. These people truly do deserve, if they deserve the pardon, they deserve some help on this.

[00:09:53] And I'm not for giveaways and I'm not for welfare and any of that, but a wrong was done to them by the federal government. The federal government can very easily make up for that. 1,500 people is not a lot. And we're cutting the fat in so many other places. And that's why it's so fascinating. They tried to prosecute. I don't know if you heard last hour. 2,400 people. They only got 1,500 of them. Most of them have simple minor, you know, things, not even felonies. You know, and I look at this and I don't know if you know, but we saw today it got released.

[00:10:22] 5,000 FBI officials. 40% of their whole organization was involved in those 2,400 prosecutions. That's what I, maybe we can get to that next. That's what I was leading up to. All right, let's skip the break and get to it right now. Well, I mean, you're looking at this defunding of the U.S. aid. Amen.

[00:10:44] You're looking at these tens of thousands of, you know, bureaucrats that were using this slush fund to fund left-wing, radical left-wing, and frankly, anti-American causes, certainly anti-Christian causes. And they're all gone now and more to come, hopefully. But that is a huge hit to an agency. And people were wondering, well, now that he's defunding these agencies, will he go after the big ones?

[00:11:13] Will he go after the IRS, the CIA, and the FBI? I would be happy to see it. I would be happy to see it. And if not go after them and completely do away with them, certainly, you know, a clean house type of operation is... Well, cleaning house is one thing. Prosecuting criminals for their offenses is another, and that's what we need to get done. Now, the good news, Dr. Scott Bradley, as you know, who joins me on Mondays and Fridays on this show, created a video. And here's what it's titled. I thought you'd like this.

[00:11:43] There's a new sheriff of the White House press room, Caroline Levitt. I tell you what, she's tough. You know, Trump has a knack. Oh, my goodness, I can't. I'm forgetting the name here. Kayleigh McEnany. He has a knack for fast-talking, good-looking, strong and smart women. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a good look. It's a good look for the administration to have someone like that as your voice. And she's doing a great job.

[00:12:13] She's doing a very good job. Now, Caroline Levitt's been on this show. We consider her a friend. She's very, very smart. She's very capable. She handed the press's head to them. You know, they tried to ask her the same question four times. And she eventually, you know, she's really, really polite and cheerful and smiling. She stops and she goes, listen to me. I've answered this question four times. And so she literally scolded them politely. I think it's a new day.

[00:12:39] I mean, she's literally working on a rotation, routing out people. But here's what I find the most interesting. I'm the guy that's been given the he who owns the media takes center stage presentations for longer than Trump even has been an officer in politics. And I call it the new media. And most people don't call it the new media, but I have forever. Well, now it's whitehouse.gov slash new media. Isn't that interesting?

[00:13:07] Well, it is and it has. And you were ahead of the curve on this and you were talking about this for a long, long time. And everything that you were talking about happening has happened. I mean, I think the media is so completely eviscerated at this point. I think that the media is considered to be a joke.

[00:13:31] A media is completely out of touch with America and no one pays attention to it anymore. I mean, podcasts, independent news organizations like this, live streams have certainly displaced the legacy media. And not just in terms of seriousness and in terms of people going to them for their news, but also in terms of numbers and sheer numbers now.

[00:13:59] I mean, you have people doing this, you know, from their house that are getting more viewers and listeners than, you know, primetime cable news networks now. And now, you know, some of them anyway, MSNBC, for instance, maybe not Fox. But and of course, you have now Caroline LeVette, who, by the way, you know, we just mentioned some of her attributes. But she seems to be a general generally good person. I knew a little bit about her. I don't know her and I've never spoken to her, but I knew a little bit about her.

[00:14:31] But prior to all of this, she ran for a seat in the U.S. House and lost, but was able to parlay that experience and that exposure into really one of the most powerful positions in the world. She's married. She's having kids. And all of that is great. And of course, one of the things they're doing now is sort of, you know, opening up some sort of a, I don't know if it's a lottery type process or how people get selected. But they're basically, you know, they're cleaning out NBC's news desks at the Pentagon.

[00:14:59] I mean, they've been like kicked out of the Pentagon and they're bringing in more independent voices. And so, of course, you know, we'd all like to be a part of that. But whether we are or not, the general direction is very good. We're part of it no matter what, whether we sit down press corps wise or get the credentials or not. We're telling the tale of liberty. And when I've been saying, hey, the new media for a long time and they use that very term in their URL, hey, don't give me credit. Don't care. It's happening. And that's all that I care about.

[00:15:24] Now, there's a new sheriff in the White House press room is really the great description that was given to Caroline Levitt. We've had her on this show, thanks to Scoop Stanton and others. And we really appreciate that work. It looks like U.S. Senate confirmed Pam Bondi as the next attorney general. What do you think of that? I'm a little concerned about her. She was one of the people that said take the guns first, due process second.

[00:15:52] But we hear that in many ways she's a stand up person. So now that she's confirmed by the Senate and she'll be the next attorney general, I guess we'll keep an eye on that ball, James. Yeah, I mean, again, not every appointee is an ace. And I'm not exactly entirely well familiar with her background. I know a little bit, as you just mentioned, and a few other things. I mean, so I'm sure in some cases you could have done much better. I mean, we could always say, well, Sam Bushman for press secretary and all of these other things.

[00:16:21] But realistically, out of the pool that he had, I love a lot of these appointments. Hegseth has just gone in an incredible direction with the military and DEI. I mean, Bondi may not be, you know, the ace that he is. But overall, I mean, again, you're moving in the right direction. And so we'll see.

[00:16:40] I just think, again, the current tide and the current trends are such that even people like this who maybe to themselves would not be somebody we would like are going to get swept up in the current momentum and probably just fall in line with the direction things are going, what the general public wants, what the American voters want, and what Trump is doing.

[00:17:07] People do have a tendency, it is just human nature, to just sort of come to heel when things become popular and trendy and in vogue. And right now, this America First agenda is certainly that. I don't even know how to respond to this, this next headline I've got. Just in, the unhinged far left, House Democrat issues articles of impeachment against Donald Trump.

[00:17:37] Well, you know, a few years ago, that not only would have been, but it most certainly was very serious. That was a very serious thing. And they jammed up his entire first administration with impeachment after impeachment after impeachment, hoax after hoax after hoax, scandal after media manufacturers, scandal after scandal after scandal.

[00:17:58] And it just seems as though all of this sort of stuff that was a big derailment the first time around is just very impotent right now. It is just not going anywhere. This man's will to power and what he has done to basically just bend the entire federal government to his vision. Everything we had hoped for the first time, or at least everything that I had hoped for the first time, has come to fruition. And then some in just three weeks.

[00:18:28] He has done, Sam, I've spent the last three shows of mine. We only do a once a week show. But just sort of trying to keep pace with the dizzying whirlwind of activities and things that they're doing. I mean, just the foreign policy stuff alone. I mean, Marco Rubio was sort of like a neocon, you know, apologetic kind of wimp guy that nobody really liked in the 2016 primary.

[00:18:57] And now he's like this bulldog for Trump down there and doing great things in South America, sort of forcing him. Well, yeah, we basically stopped them from doing this Belt and Road thing or whatever it's called and giving China special privilege at the Panama Canal and everything else. So, you know what? Good on Rubio for that. But this representative, Al Green, announces articles of impeachment against Trump, says, quote, The movement to impeach the president has begun. I don't even understand these clowns.

[00:19:27] I mean, it's just insane. So why did no one impeach Joe Biden for all of his criminal activity? And now they're already were. What would this be? The third impeachment of Trump? At least. It seems like at least. It would be at least the third. And the last ones were fraudulent, though. They claimed, for example, in the impeachment proceedings that, you know, in January 6th, someone beat up this, you know, cop and killed him with a fire extinguisher or whatever. It turned out to be completely bogus propaganda and everything else.

[00:19:57] But now they're already pushing for impeachment against Trump. Hey, the more you're over the target, the more you're catching flack is the bottom line, James. Absolutely right. And I just see I it will be interesting to see how the left reorganizes as a result of this dismantling that they experience. And, of course, we understand now, I think, you know, why that this happened. They just went. I mean, it's it really is just this simple.

[00:20:26] They just went too far with, you know, the transgenderism and all of this other stuff. And, of course, history always swings on a pendulum and you never move in a straight line indefinitely. And things certainly come back, come back. What was old is now new again and all of that.

[00:20:45] But it does not seem, Sam, that the left has learned anything from 2024 announcing that David Hogg is going to be the new vice chairman of the Democratic Party. I mean, this guy is represents everything that caused them to lose. I mean, he's obnoxious. He's he's radically to the left and gun control and, you know, the homosexual, transgender stuff and just every part of their program. Yeah, he's woke and psychotic as all get out.

[00:21:13] And again, they just don't get it. They just don't understand the American people. They don't understand what we care about. The economy is the economy. Stupid. Now, listen to this. A new tariff war is brewing, threatening to send shockwaves through the economy, hitting your wallet, ladies and gentlemen, your investments and your retirement savings. They say all at once prices on everything. Good services, groceries, gas are set to rise. The blaze dot com.

[00:21:43] Now, I support tariffs 100 percent. I don't support the misuse of tariffs. And we're bordering on that, I'm afraid. But here's the deal. All you got to do if you're going to put those tariffs in place is shut down the IRS and just say nobody has to file taxes this April. You don't need to do it anymore. It's gone. I'm telling you right now, he'd be the best president in history. Yeah, absolutely. I agree. I mean, and all of this, it's just amazing.

[00:22:12] I mean, so oftentimes you. Hope to get one or two things accomplished. You know, if you're an incoming president, you hope to get one or two things accomplished. You have enough political capital to get one or two things accomplished, if you're lucky. And then you go into the midterms and then, you know, you become a lame duck. And I'll be interested to see if this momentum continues, if the Republicans don't rack up more of a majority in Congress in the midterms.

[00:22:38] And the talk about whether or not Donald Trump can serve again because of the two unconsecutive terms, constitutional question, it becomes more of a debate. Yeah, they put a thing in Congress to try to change that saying Trump was kind of robbed out of his second term. And since it wasn't two in a row, he should get a third. What do you think? I don't agree. It's speculative. It's speculative. But, I mean, this isn't just something that people are talking about in the fever swamps of, you know, some website.

[00:23:07] Oh, no, it's on Capitol Hill, buddy. Yeah, a United States congressman out of Tennessee, no less, has proposed this. So we'll see. But I'm just saying. You support it? Listen, you know, my principle has always been, is it good for our people? And this is a case where you're not even betraying a principle to law or the Constitution. I mean, let them decide whether or not that that's – I mean, we have had certainly presidents in the past that have served. I mean, FDR was in there for, what, like 30 years? You know, not really.

[00:23:33] But, I mean, we've had presidents before that have served more than two terms. So I don't think, you know, necessarily that I am opposed to it at all. I'd be opposed to it if it was, you know, Kamala Harris. But when it's Trump, I'm not. And my response is this is a little bit of the problem is that, you know, hey, it cuts with a two-edged sword. And it could be for something. And, hey, it can eventually be turned against you if you're not very careful indeed. So we need to be careful. But we need to abolish the IRS. Tariffs are fine.

[00:24:00] But you can't add tariffs to the current tax burden that the American people have. I don't know that we can withstand it is the point. Hey, man, we're talking about Guantanamo Bay in seconds. You're listening to Sam Bushman. The Roundtable Live. James Edwards. The political cesspool.org. Hard-hitting talk continues on your radio.

[00:24:55] You're listening to Liberty News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Rich Thomas. Certainly not universal, but President Trump says he has heard a lot of positive feedback about his Gaza redevelopment plan. Advocates moving the Palestinians out of the Gaza Strip and redeveloping the land. In a remarkable declaration, the president said the U.S. should take ownership of the Palestinians' homeland.

[00:25:22] The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it, too. We'll own it. He claimed there's broad support for his redevelopment plan. Everybody I've spoken to loves the idea. The president offered no specifics on where Palestinians would be permanently resettled, and he refused to rule out deploying U.S. troops to secure Gaza. Greg Clugston, Washington. Iran's currency has plunged to a record low against the dollar.

[00:25:48] This after President Trump restarted his maximum pressure campaign against Tehran over its nuclear program. In its drive to improve government oversight and accountability, the Trump administration is pulling almost all U.S. AID workers off the job and out of the field worldwide. Going forward, the agency's work may be taken up by the State Department. The Senate has confirmed Pam Bondi as attorney general.

[00:26:12] Pennsylvania's John Fetterman, the lone Democrat, joined with the Republicans in confirming Bondi, a former Florida attorney general. Deadly shooting last night at a cosmetics warehouse in the Columbus suburb of New Albany, Ohio. One person killed, five others wounded. The suspect still at large in what Police Chief Greg Jones says was a targeted attack by the gunman. Because it was at its place of work.

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[00:30:13] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Well, welcome back everybody to Liberty Roundtable. So many years on your radio with the great Sam Bushman, but none like the last three weeks, four weeks, how long has it been since January? It's February the 5th. It seems like it's been a lifetime since January. No, man, it's only been three weeks and it's incredible.

[00:30:42] It feels like a lifetime and so much has changed, so much for the better. I have concerns about some things Trump and team are doing, but for the most part, I welcome it. I think it's great news and I think we've got to start somewhere. And you know, it's like a room getting messy before it gets clean. It's going to get worse before it gets better in many ways. Expect that, ladies and gentlemen. But this issue, U.S. begins migrant flights to Guantanamo Bay, James.

[00:31:07] So here is, this is a big deal and a big story and what a wonderful way to use that particular facility. So Trump is saying that he will, of course, has signed rather an executive order to send the worst of the U.S. illegals to Guantanamo Bay in a 30,000 bed facility. Now, this is just another, in my opinion, great idea. I'm sure it's Stephen Miller again and I consent to this one, too. The New York Times story reads, President Trump on Wednesday, this was last Wednesday, ordered

[00:31:37] his administration to prepare to house tens of thousands of quote-unquote criminal aliens at the Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, the latest prong in his widening crackdown on immigration. Mr. Trump did not offer details on how the plan would take shape, but he instructed the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security to get the site ready. We have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo to detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people, he said. Some of them are so bad we don't even trust the countries to hold them because we don't

[00:32:06] want them coming back, so we're going to send them down to Guantanamo. I mean, this is decisive action, strong leadership. This is what I think everybody had hoped we would see from Trump during the exciting years of 2015 and 2016. A little bit delayed, but he's here now. It's a start.

[00:32:31] And now the latest is Trump has ordered Tom Holman and others to increase deportations. So we've kind of worked on getting the details ready and everything else. He's also said we're going to prosecute those who stand in the way, aka governors and mayors and other clown sheriffs that don't understand or aren't willing to uphold the rule of law. We need to basically, A, realize that Trump is serious about this, and I think it's good

[00:32:59] they've already gotten rid of, as far as I understand, like 7,000 or 8,000 criminal illegal gang and terrorist people. And that's a big number already. Now, I know we've got a lot to go. Don't get me wrong, but that's a big number. And let me throw this out for you, because I got this from, believe it or not, AMAC. I don't know if you know who AMAC is, but AMAC is a group like AARP, but it's a conservative group, not a liberal whacked out group. So they're for elderly people.

[00:33:23] And AMAC had a thing that basically said, listen, Biden, Obama, Harris, all these people have imported about 12 million illegals. And those illegals are being counted in the census. And the census is coming up shortly. We've only got five years till the census. And, you know, the 2030 census, they do it every 10 years. And so unless you get these 12 million people out, you're literally getting multiple congressmen

[00:33:53] in given states because of illegal counts that they should not have. You're literally changing the electorate. This is vote fraud at its, you know, most poignant point, if you will. And we have got to remove these people. We've got less than five years to get it done. We've got four years for Trump, two years before you start changing the game in the house. So how many people do you have to get rid of? How fast? If you're not careful, even if you only get rid of, say, 5 million, you've still got 7 million illegals.

[00:34:20] That can provide all kinds of seats in Congress that you don't want and everything else. This is a ticking time bomb that Joe and Kamala has set for we the people. It's a criminal act, but they've done it. And now we've got to wrestle with that reality, James. Well, that's right. And the only way to get started is to get started. And with regards to immigration, you just mentioned this. President Trump orders ICE to make an increased 1,800 arrests per day.

[00:34:48] That's up from previous quotas. And you're seeing it happen. And that's good, but that's still not enough, James. Well, they're working on it. I mean, this is what they say, but this is Carolina LeVette. She says the deportations will not stop and they will continue to increase in number. And this was her quote at the press briefing. While this has been a great start, we cannot get complacent. And this is Tom Homan. Tom Homan was on with Jesse Waters on Fox News. And he says that the number of deportations must grow.

[00:35:17] Waters asked him, are you satisfied with the pace of migrant deportations? Tom Homan, the border czar, said no. We've got to do more. And then you're seeing it happen. You're seeing them being loaded onto military aircraft and a soldier saying we can have any illegal alien back to wherever he came from in seven hours or less. And that's if they have to go down to the far reaches of South America. So it is happening. And then, of course, you see this new foreign policy that's taking place.

[00:35:43] I mean, Trump and through Trump, excuse me, through Rubio, Rubio through Trump, but Trump and Rubio are just absolutely buck-breaking these South American presidents. I mean, you had the president of, I believe it was Columbia. He wouldn't let some planes land. And then Trump said all the things he was going to do to Columbia. And within hours, not only were the planes allowed to land, but he was sending his presidential jet to pick up more.

[00:36:11] I mean, I have never seen such strongman diplomacy being used for good. Well, and that's the deal. So if you take 1,800 per day, James, and you times that times 365 to get the number per year, it's only 657,000. Now, don't get me wrong. It's a good start. But hey, at that pace, you'll never get it done. In four years, you'll only get rid of like 3 million of the 12 million you've got to get rid of. And so that's why I'm saying we've got to amp this up.

[00:36:37] We need basically, I mean, even if you had 5,000 per day, James, I just want people to really understand this. Even if you had 5,000 per day times 365, which means we're deporting on Christmas and every day, holidays and everything. It's only 1,800,000. All right. So you've got to literally get like 4,000 a day at least, or 5,000 a day to even get close, not missing a day. And every day you don't get that number, the number goes up of what you got to get done.

[00:37:07] So I'm not downing anybody. I think it's an incredible start. But I do want to put it in perspective with this ticking time bomb of the census, though. Are we going to be able to count these illegals in the census? That's another thing that people have got to jump on. Right now, I see Congress, for the most part, not doing anything. They passed the Lincoln-Riley Act, which is good. It's a start. But what else has Congress done in the last? Well, they started before Trump did. They've been there for a month now. What have they accomplished? Well, they got a few people nominated and talked a lot. Yeah.

[00:37:36] Showed up at noon and, you know, took off days off. But what have these clowns done? What has Congress really done? Well, I mean, Congress has passed the Lincoln-Riley Act, and so that's good. And that's already happened, and that was pretty fast work. You know, frankly, that's pretty fast work. A day's worth of work, maybe, yeah. Well, and of course you understand, and as I know you do, getting things done through Congress

[00:38:06] with the Democrats trying to gum up the mechanism is always a task when you have a one, what is it, like a one-seat advantage in the Senate. However, however, the Democrats did help. I mean, they didn't even go to the filibuster. You have to get, you know, 60 senators on board to get these things done, and you had Democrats, particularly Kevin Fetterman, but others in vulnerable swing states that are voting with Trump on immigration

[00:38:36] in order to save themselves because that's how much this tide is sort of just sweeping through Washington right now. I just never thought anything like this would happen, but you are having some help through Congress. But listen, whether it's through executive action or the way he's doing things right now or through Congress, I mean, obviously Congress makes it a little more permanent and more concrete in the Supreme Court. I mean, you're already going to have this 14th Amendment birthright citizenship going straight to the Supreme Court.

[00:39:04] So, you know, they're working on all levers, on all angles, and it has, again, only been three weeks. I'm just very excited. It's just one thing after another every day, and it's just hit after hit after hit after hit. Well, and we need more of it. We need it faster. We need more of it. Look, Trump needs to abolish the IRS, okay? We can't handle the extra tariffs and deal with our taxes. We've got to shut down the criminal IRS, and then we've got to work on a political prisoner, you know, citizen's brigade that would help him release every Good Friday.

[00:39:33] This is our buddy Steve Stockman's idea. Every Good Friday, you'd literally release names of political prisoners that have been abused by the criminal government and cartels of yesteryear in the regime, and we can stop that stuff. So the Guantanamo Bay thing is good. Now it turns out that this El Salvadorian president, how do you say it, Bukel? Okay, let me find this. I don't know how to say it. Bukel, I think it is. He basically says he's going to hold American criminals in mega prisons. He says, I got it. You pay us.

[00:40:02] We'll do it. We'll take anybody from any country. Take care of them for you. Now the El Salvador prisons are hardcore, buddy. Oh, you better believe it. I mean, if you've ever watched any of those shows. You can go down to El Salvador or Guantanamo, which are the A, B, or C people? I mean, folks that imagine, I mean, American prisons are, nobody would want to be there. But it is nothing like what you've got down there in the third world. I mean, you're talking about, you can't even believe it unless you've seen some of these world's toughest prison shows.

[00:40:32] Yeah, and you can't even describe it on the radio. No, you can't. I mean, you'd have to see it to be able to see it. You didn't even see it. You lack the words to describe what these people are going to be facing. And I want to get to this thing about El Salvador, but that's another thing to consider, Sam. By the way, we are asking Donald Trump to make Sheriff Richard Mack the El Salvador, what's it called? Ambassador to El Salvador. Because he speaks Spanish. He went on his Mormon mission there, and he'd do a great job. Well, that would be, yes.

[00:41:02] I mean, we would love to see some people like that in the administration. People we know rather than just people we like that we've heard about. You know, people like other people we've mentioned, RFK Jr. and things like that. But another thing to consider is you're talking about the number of physical deportations. That is going to be a drop in the bucket, I think, to the number of people who will self-deport in order to not get caught up in this dragnet. People who are leaving, and I'm sure that is happening in numbers that we can't even imagine right now because they don't want to be arrested and sent to these places.

[00:41:31] So they're just going to go on back home themselves and probably get out of the country as quick as they can in order to avoid an arrest. But the situation in El Salvador is that U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has announced, of course, as you just mentioned, that El Salvador's president has offered to accept deportees from the U.S. of any nationality. So not just as some of these nations are doing in Central and South America, accepting their own criminals, but they're taking them from anywhere.

[00:41:58] Any criminal, anywhere, anytime, you can send them on down to El Salvador. They've got this prison called Seacot, and it is just like this industrial prison that is just unbelievable. I've watched some videos about it. Hardcore. So you can deport yourself or you can decide, well, I guess we'll decide for you if it's Guantanamo Bay or it's El Salvador. Now, I love the El Salvadorian pupusa, but this, in my opinion, president is basically partnering with the United States.

[00:42:27] And, you know, the question becomes is how much does it cost to house a prisoner in America today on the average? That's a fair question. Some of these political prisoners might even cost more. But then how much would it cost in El Salvador in comparison? And Trump's saying, hey, we can get these prisoners taken care of for pennies on the dollar, James. It's the best allocation of resources that I can imagine just about, just about.

[00:42:49] You're paying to get rid of these people as opposed to paying them to stay here through welfare and social services and things like that. I mean, they are a net drag on the bottom line in the dollar no matter what. So a one-time payment to send them back and a payment to El Salvador to house them. I mean, there is going to be, I think they are going to be paying them to put them in these prisons, you know, some sort of a small fee. But that's great.

[00:43:18] That's a great allocation of taxpayer funds. And certainly it's going to save a lot more money in the long term. And not even getting to the cultural ramifications of all this. I'm a hardcore guy that's into realism, ladies and gentlemen. So I want to kind of ask you, how much do you think it costs on average for the average inmate? The cost vary widely based on if it's a maximum security prison, based on where in the country it is, all this kind of stuff.

[00:43:47] But on the whole, there's an average. On average, in the United States, it generally costs what, do you think, James, to house a prisoner per year? That's a great question. I haven't ever considered it. A single inmate. Any idea? Well, let's just do the math on this. I mean, how much would it cost to stay at a cheap hotel and then buy your food? I honestly don't know. What would it be?

[00:44:18] That's a great question. Sometimes it's higher or lower. It depends on the state. For example, Alabama is going to be cheaper than Washington, D.C., of course, right? Kind of stuff. Okay. I get it. But on the average, they say it's between $30,000 and $60,000 per inmate per year. Wow. Wow. That's like the net income for most Americans. That's what I'm talking about. I mean, $60,000 is a good living. And this is why Steve Stockman, myself, and many others want to get pardons for these people

[00:44:44] and start doing it every Good Friday and get a citizen's political prisoner commission going. Sheriff Mack and I, Steve Stockman, many of us are starting to work on this. But the idea is, hey, just take a guy like I got a friend named Ken Cromar. You know, he doesn't agree with the IRS. He doesn't think he owes the taxes. They stole his house, threw him in prison, da-da-da-da. The guy's never committed a single act of violence in his entire life. He's right now sitting in a Nevada holding prison for the feds.

[00:45:10] And he's with literally hardened murderers and sex offenders and criminals and perverts and gang members and everything else. This guy has never harmed a fly in his entire life. It's his literal first offense. He doesn't, okay, there's no reason that guy should be on the public dole $30,000 to $60,000 by force. Why not let him be out, give him an ankle bracelet or whatever you need to do, fine. But let this guy work and, you know, maybe put $10,000 into the tax coffers as opposed to draining it $30,000 to $60,000 a pop.

[00:45:39] How many political prisoners are in there? How many peaceful people or people that got in there for marijuana or something stupid? I'm not endorsing that. I'm just saying, well, they don't need to be in prison next to thugs for $30,000 to $60,000 a pop per year per person or per inmate. That's insanity. And we've got to come to our senses on this. We've imprisoned more people in the world than any other nation. Yeah, that's absolutely right. Right, we do. And, well, hopefully not anymore.

[00:46:05] But anyway, it's shocking to me. It is just shocking. And this is time well spent talking about these issues, and there's just so much every day trying to – any one of them would normally dominate an entire program. I get it. I agree. I've got two more before the end of the hour. Short time. Let's get to them. Trump proposes U.S. takeover at Gaza. Okay. Okay.

[00:46:34] Well, you know, it'll be interesting to see where that goes. That is not one that I am in favor of. Yeah, I'm off it. Of course, we know that – Leave those clown criminals alone. Drop foreign aid. Shut it down. Defend the shores of the United States of America. Tell those people they're on their own. We backed them and funded them and trained them and armed them enough. We want to basically, you know, have a humble foreign policy. So anyway, to me, that's a shame. I'm just going to put shame at the head of this. Shame, explanation point, dash. Okay, there you go. Shame.

[00:47:04] Trump proposes the takeover of Gaza. Here's the next one. We've heard about all these government employees going away. 20,000 of them decided to take it. Now the CIA is offering buyouts to entire workforce. You ready to quit the CIA, James? Well, we need a lot less of them, I can tell you that. By the way, James doesn't work for the CIA folks. I'm just kidding. Now probably just under investigation. Or at least it got a file there somewhere in one of the cabinets.

[00:47:34] But yeah, a lot of these organizations, if they don't need to be gutted and reformed, I mean they certainly need a different kind of person in there, a different kind of agent. Well, I think you start with letting them self-unemploy, self-deport, and give everybody an opportunity there, and then start to crack down and get harder as you go. But you've got to do it quick. Well, look, I mean, we're reeling off some of these allocations of taxpayer money at the top of the hour. Just random stuff.

[00:48:03] Well, $56 million to boost tourism in Tunisia. I mean, I don't even understand how that would be anything America. Why is that a concern of the American taxpayer? Tunisia's tourism industry is robust. But just out of that $56 million, how many buyouts could you fund for these deep state operatives? A lot. Because they're offering them, what, six months, eight months?

[00:48:27] You know, so whatever their salary is, half or three-fourths of that, two-thirds, I mean, you can fund a lot of buyouts with just that one little allocation, $20 million. Oh, yeah. And the thing is that nobody in the real world gets those kind of severances, hardly. I mean, it's rare as all get out, right? You get like, what, like two weeks in corporate insurance for a month? Yeah, maybe a month or something like that. Or even if you're higher level, you get 60 days or something like that.

[00:48:53] But, I mean, these people have been given a gift big time, and they ought to take it. Well, of course, you know, unless they're ready to retire, unless they're, you know, older and we're thinking about getting close to retirement age anyway, what are they going to do? I mean, what are you going to do if you're some woke bureaucrat in a government job like this who has some sort of humanities or women's studies degree? What do you – they'll never work again. I mean, a lot of them are probably going to want to stay on.

[00:49:23] I would be interested to see what kind of folks – Yeah, we need to watch the money flow, though. They might go work for Antifa. We've got to shut that crap down, too. Well, that's right. I mean, we're talking about the CIA here, so that's going to be a little bit different than some of these other NGOs. I don't know if the CIA and the Antifa and George Soros – I don't know if there's a line drawn between any of those clowns. I'm just saying a lot – there's not. But some of these, like USAID, like that stuff, that's a little bit different than the CIA, I'm sure. But, I mean, if you're talking about some of these woke bureaucrats, where are they going to work?

[00:49:52] Where are they going to be able to find work? So I'm sure – I would be interested to see if the people taking these buyouts, if most of them are older or what. But I just don't understand where these people are going to go to get a job like that. Government benefits and pensions and things like that. If they take a buyout, I mean, hard to see where they land. Certainly not anything that's going to be as good as that, you know, as sweet as a gig of that in terms of money and prestige and all that. But it doesn't matter to me.

[00:50:20] Well, I understand that all I'm saying is that, hey, we have got to start to drain the swamp in more ways than one. You get 20,000 government officials that leave on the buyouts. Let's see if we can 10-tuple that number. That's a start. Let's, you know, fire these people that won't come into the office. That's another deal. Let's go ahead and offer the buyouts to the CIA. Let's start offering buyouts to the FBI. As soon as Cash gets in there, hopefully he'll do that. We're praying Cash Patel gets, you know, confirmed by the Senate as well. You know, we're on a roll and we've got to keep it up.

[00:50:52] That's right. And if it keeps up to even imagine, it's hard to imagine that you're going to have four years, like the first three or four weeks. But if you did, if you could, it's hard to imagine where this country is going to be by the time the next presidential election rolls around and what that looks like. Because, I mean, you could almost, I mean, you have the potential right now. This is definitely getting way ahead of ourselves.

[00:51:20] But you have the potential right now to where the Democrats are going to be forever cast as some sort of a regional party where they control some of the coastal states. And the Republicans are basically just a one-party system. Well, because they're deporting the Democratic voters. Yeah, and you are because even the Democrats are starting to see how extreme and whacked out and psychotic and crazy and delusionary these people are. And they're going, wait a minute. You know what? We all agree that we want a safe society, just for example. You know what? Let's get rid of the thugs.

[00:51:50] We all agree we want a safe society. We all agree that we have too much government bloat and money being spent. I mean, you got what the yellow dog Democrats used to be. Hey, guys, that wouldn't want to spend money. They were conservatives in spending or fiscal restraint. You know, the American people are going, it's the economy, stupid. We've spent ourselves into oblivion, and it's got to stop. And by the way, get rid of these criminals. We don't want them. And we can all even agree on that and create a single party, if you will. And I'm not for single parties necessarily. Again, I don't care. I'm really about that.

[00:52:18] But see, exactly. I mean, our people throughout Western civilization have operated and thrived under many different forms of government. I'm not married to any sort of status quo or anything like that. But if the Republicans, and for the first time in my life, they are working with the country's best interests at heart and not just existing to be sort of like the Washington generals to the Democratic globetrotters. If they keep this up, you know, more power to them. And I mean that literally, more power to them. And they are accumulating this power.

[00:52:48] And as we said, there's just a concentration of red state voters in places like California that were not doing any good, you know, fighting for a lost cause. They are coming into southern and midwestern states and tipping the midwestern rust belt states red and solidifying and even increasing the number of electoral votes that are going to be doled out to places like Tennessee and even Texas and Florida. They're going to go up and these blue states are going to come down.

[00:53:14] I mean, you really could see in the future a Republican Party that just runs everything. And if they continue to operate like this, I wouldn't be opposed. Well, I hope they obey the checks and balances of the Constitution. I get the many executive orders that Trump's done. If you can create something by fiat, you can reject it and get rid of it by fiat. So I generally support a lot of that. However, we need to go back and assert the checks and balances that made America great. The answer lies in pure application of the supreme law of the land.

[00:53:42] And whether we'll get that far or not all depends on how deep the deep state is, how bad the swamp is, because I know Trump, you know, got fooled once by it. And hopefully he's smarter now and we'll keep an eye on the ball and see what happens there. But, man, so many things are going on. It's crazy, James. Any final quick thoughts? Fast hour. Fast hour. Fast hour. Don't miss a single episode of Liberty Roundtable. Every day Sam's going to have more than he can get to. And for the first time in my career as a commentator, most of it good. But support the work of Sam Bushman.

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