Radio Show Hour 2 – 11/07/2024

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[00:01:03] Last hour, we had Brian Rust on the radio with us talking about honest money, freewatercoinco.com.

[00:01:09] And can I just tell you, ladies and gentlemen, I just feel so blessed.

[00:01:12] I am surrounded by so many absolutely brilliant, moral, honorable people.

[00:01:21] It's just wow.

[00:01:22] I think about the Tuesday night broadcast that I did for five hours, election coverage.

[00:01:27] We literally had like 30 great people on radio and TV partnership.

[00:01:32] It was a rumble via the big MIG channel.

[00:01:36] It was Liberty News Radio teaming up.

[00:01:37] We issued our press release about our event over 6,000 media.

[00:01:42] We had thousands of viewers and listeners.

[00:01:44] It was incredible.

[00:01:46] And then I think about it and I go, wow.

[00:01:47] So, you know, we had all those like 25, 30 people around me doing that show, brought all kinds of experts in and out.

[00:01:54] Congressman Steve Stockman.

[00:01:56] Many other commentators and talk show hosts and experts.

[00:01:59] And, man, what a tremendous thing that was.

[00:02:03] Alex Newman doing a good job joining in.

[00:02:06] Sheriff Richard Mack.

[00:02:07] I mean, just tons of great people appearing from states all over this great country.

[00:02:12] But then I think about it and I go, wow.

[00:02:14] Then I come on the radio today and I literally have Brian Rust with me.

[00:02:18] Incredible gentleman.

[00:02:20] Understands honest money for three generations.

[00:02:22] He's been educating people on precious metals.

[00:02:24] Telling people to take possession of your metal.

[00:02:27] Freewatercoinco.com.

[00:02:28] And then I have Tim Starks with me now, my dear friend, who is one of the most brilliant people on security, on all kinds of things.

[00:02:37] He's been just in a variety of positions to really understand security and everything else.

[00:02:43] And I just think, wow, those are two people that weren't even with me on Tuesday night.

[00:02:47] The star-studded folks.

[00:02:49] Just keep coming on the roundtable, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:02:52] It was election roundtable Tuesday night and it's Liberty Roundtable today.

[00:02:56] Welcome to the broadcast.

[00:02:57] Hope you're doing absolutely fantastic.

[00:03:00] We were talking about the economy for Donald Trump.

[00:03:03] And it's going to take Donald some time to turn this thing around.

[00:03:06] And one of the things that I hope he really does is embrace this tariff idea.

[00:03:09] Just shut the IRS down and move for tariffs.

[00:03:12] And you say, Sam, that will never cover the costs.

[00:03:14] If you get rid of the interest on the debt and get rid of the Federal Reserve so you're not paying a half a trillion dollars interest on debt,

[00:03:19] And if you move to tariffs and then you reduce the size and scope of government big time, it'll pay for it no problem.

[00:03:26] That's how it used to run, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:03:28] And I don't know if you know, but scam losses around the world this year have already reached a trillion dollars.

[00:03:36] The big question is how you protect yourself asks USA Today.

[00:03:39] It's a fair question.

[00:03:41] But I just look at this thing and I say, hey, Donald needs to take swift action.

[00:03:47] And so Steve Stockman, I mentioned on the Tuesday night broadcast, said, look, Donald and the company have about a year to take serious action and to prove who they are and what they'll do.

[00:03:57] Why a year, you ask?

[00:03:58] Because every two years, a third of Congress gets replaced.

[00:04:02] And the second year, they're going to be running on what they did the first year.

[00:04:06] Either they were successful and they got a lot of things to say, hey, look at what we've done.

[00:04:09] Or they're going to be backpedaling for the next year.

[00:04:11] They won't touch a thing that you want to work on.

[00:04:13] So you've really only got about a year to quadruple down and lay out who you are, what you stand for, what you'll do.

[00:04:19] You've got to hit the ground running on day one.

[00:04:22] With that introduction, Tim Starks, what do you think?

[00:04:24] Is that right?

[00:04:27] You're dead on there, Sam.

[00:04:28] It's going to be an interesting year to see who does what and what needs to be done.

[00:04:34] And by the way, good morning and thank you for the wonderful intro.

[00:04:37] You're very welcome.

[00:04:39] So let's talk about this security thing for a quick second.

[00:04:42] Scam losses worldwide this year alone, a trillion dollars.

[00:04:47] That number is unfathomable to me.

[00:04:48] I can't understand that almost.

[00:04:51] Well, and I think we're going to see that number go up to unfathomable numbers here real soon

[00:05:00] because I think a lot of underestimating is being done when it comes to the threats we face.

[00:05:05] Everybody is talking about quantum hacking not being a viable threat for six to ten years.

[00:05:11] And with AI…

[00:05:12] It's viable now, my friend.

[00:05:14] Well, with AI, it's going to be a viable threat within a year or two years, I believe,

[00:05:19] because it's going to accelerate the development of quantum hacking.

[00:05:26] And AI hacking is already being used, which is in itself almost as big a threat as quantum.

[00:05:34] Anyway, all I can tell you, ladies and gentlemen, is you've got to protect yourselves.

[00:05:37] It's very difficult to get done because you're forced to be part of the social security system.

[00:05:42] You're forced to put your medical records online.

[00:05:44] You're forced to participate.

[00:05:46] I mean, if you have a phone, you're in one of the big phone companies.

[00:05:48] If you have any other services, you're involved in the big company.

[00:05:51] And even if you don't get hacked personally, they get hacked and leak your information to the dark web

[00:05:55] and do all the thugs anyway.

[00:05:56] So it's almost impossible to avoid this, Tim.

[00:06:01] It is.

[00:06:02] And you've got to have a plan in place.

[00:06:04] It's like, you know, one of the scams that's going on out there is people get a phone call from,

[00:06:08] you know, a grandparent gets a phone call from their grandchild maybe that they don't talk to on a regular basis

[00:06:13] and says, hey, I'm hurt or I need money or I'm stranded.

[00:06:16] And it sounds like them.

[00:06:18] It's their voice.

[00:06:19] And they're off somewhere at home or at a game or with friends, and there's nothing wrong with them.

[00:06:24] But the grandparents don't know this, and so they send, you know, a money order or whatever to this scammer.

[00:06:31] And people get scammed like this all the time.

[00:06:33] I say that you need to learn to communicate with your family and have a safe word

[00:06:37] or some kind of a word that you can give your grandparents or your mother or your friends and family

[00:06:43] that they know it's you because these scammers won't have that.

[00:06:46] They can get access to your voice through recordings or, you know, calling you,

[00:06:50] but they can't get that safe word.

[00:06:52] And so if you get that safe word, you can protect yourself from a lot of this as well.

[00:06:58] You also need to not panic too.

[00:06:59] For example, if they ever want you to believe, oh, my gosh, you can't talk to your grandson

[00:07:03] because they're this or you can't talk to somebody because of that.

[00:07:05] Or whenever there's an urgency component, you want to look out.

[00:07:09] You know what?

[00:07:10] You know what?

[00:07:10] Normal business doesn't require this psychotic urgency to it, Tim.

[00:07:15] No.

[00:07:16] And then, you know, it's simple to just call that number.

[00:07:19] Call it back.

[00:07:20] Call your grandson or granddaughter's number and see if you can get a hold of them or your son or whoever it is

[00:07:25] and try to get a hold of them because a lot of times these people are, you know, they're calling from a number.

[00:07:30] They're faking the caller ID and everything else.

[00:07:32] It's so easy to do when you've got the phone systems we have today.

[00:07:36] These Internet-based phones can – you can clone a number, make it look like you're calling from a number that you're not calling from.

[00:07:45] You're not actually cloning it.

[00:07:46] You're just – you're faking out the caller ID.

[00:07:50] And so people need just to understand that.

[00:07:52] A lot of people call it swatting when that's done and an evil intent to send the cops to your house

[00:07:55] so that there's like a suicide by cop or there's a this or a that.

[00:07:59] And it's going on and it's going to become more and more and more, whether it's a digital scam, a financial scam,

[00:08:04] a scam of your loved ones and who they are.

[00:08:07] I mean, there's endless ways this can go on and it's going to proliferate like nobody's business, folks.

[00:08:12] I'm telling you right now.

[00:08:13] Anyway, all right.

[00:08:15] The headline says this.

[00:08:17] It begins.

[00:08:20] Trump protests break out nationwide as leftists just cannot handle the fact that Donald won.

[00:08:30] The gatewaypundit.com, Ben Q as the piece.

[00:08:33] And he basically talks about, hey, they're going crazy.

[00:08:37] Now, I thought right after the election that night nobody rioted.

[00:08:40] The next morning it seemed to be quiet, but wow, less than 24 hours after demonstrations have consequently broken out in cities across the country.

[00:08:49] But most notably in Chicago where thousands appear at Trump Tower to express their disgust.

[00:08:58] What's it going to look like in this 67 days or 66 days until Donald Trump gets sworn in?

[00:09:06] Can he survive it, do you think?

[00:09:09] Well, I don't I don't think they want him to survive it.

[00:09:12] I think that there's people at power at play here that that would like to distract him and keep him from doing any good.

[00:09:19] I mean, that's what they did in the first term in office is they distracted him with just all kinds of bogus distractions and lawsuits and impeachments.

[00:09:27] And they never even got in office and they were already talking impeaching.

[00:09:31] It's just hard for anybody to do anything when you've got to deal with this kind of stuff.

[00:09:35] But for some reason, there's extremists on the left that think this is OK.

[00:09:40] And I think it's time that the Democrat Party stands up to the left in their party and says, hey, look, you can't do this.

[00:09:47] And I think that's what America did is America said, look, we're tired of this.

[00:09:51] And they showed it.

[00:09:53] They don't stand up to their their extreme in the Democratic Party.

[00:09:56] Some are saying it's going to be the end of the Democratic Party entirely.

[00:10:00] Well, and I I wish that that would have some truth to it.

[00:10:05] But I just believe that extremism is just going to get worse.

[00:10:07] I think we're in such a polarized gridlock world today politically that it's just going to increase to get worse until until something really bad happens, unfortunately.

[00:10:18] But I can tell you one thing, though, Sam, I did.

[00:10:21] I did finally understand Kamala's saying, you know, what can be unburdened by what has been.

[00:10:26] You get that now, don't you?

[00:10:29] The election now has unburdened us.

[00:10:31] What has been? Yeah.

[00:10:32] The election can unburden us from the possibility of the communist Kamala taking charge of America.

[00:10:36] Yeah, exactly.

[00:10:37] Yeah, I understand that saying now it unburdened us.

[00:10:40] Amen to that.

[00:10:42] Tim Stark with me, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:10:43] He's a security expert by trade.

[00:10:45] He's a critical thinker in America.

[00:10:48] I'll tell you that right now.

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[00:13:04] All right.

[00:13:05] Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:13:06] Sam Bushman.

[00:13:07] Tim Starks on your radio.

[00:13:10] We're talking about threat analysis.

[00:13:13] Risk assessment.

[00:13:15] From a security point of view, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:13:18] Tim by trade is a threat assessment risk analysis security consultant.

[00:13:24] And it's really important to kind of look at a lot of these things.

[00:13:28] So you got these Trump protests going on.

[00:13:30] I wonder how you keep Trump alive in the next 67 days.

[00:13:34] The lame duck session is going to be dangerous.

[00:13:36] The time between now and when he gets elected or when he gets sworn in is really going to be critical.

[00:13:40] You've got clowns already saying a Jan 6, 2025.

[00:13:44] It's our time to riot.

[00:13:45] You've got people rioting in the streets and in Chicago right now getting crazy.

[00:13:49] On day one, in my opinion, President Trump should revoke the security clearances of the 51 plus dishonorable foreign intelligence officials who lied about Hunter Biden's laptop and knew all along the truth and lied.

[00:14:09] I mean, that's where he needs to start by cleaning house.

[00:14:12] Tim.

[00:14:14] Absolutely.

[00:14:14] I think that our intelligence community has been compromised.

[00:14:18] I don't think.

[00:14:19] I know it's been compromised.

[00:14:22] And I'll probably just tell you right now, if I talk too much about the intelligence community, I can probably break some NDAs.

[00:14:29] So I'm probably going to refer to a mythical person, Johnny.

[00:14:34] And we'll just talk about Johnny's experiences.

[00:14:37] And he will be our mythical person we'll talk about.

[00:14:42] So if I do say something about Johnny, it's just a mythical thing.

[00:14:47] But, you know, one, I had heard that just a story here that in 2012, 2013, in this mythical story that that the intel community has usually prided itself on being a nonpartisan community.

[00:15:04] You really can't be left or right or Democrat or Republican to do your job.

[00:15:10] You should really have a very non-biased opinion.

[00:15:13] And I think they've done that so that it couldn't be used as a political weapon.

[00:15:15] The idea is what's good for the country should be good for us all, right?

[00:15:19] Exactly.

[00:15:19] And so that couldn't be weaponized politically as well.

[00:15:22] Well, 2012, that changed.

[00:15:26] And it's the first time in history that certain sites, black sites, have been accessed by a presidential person and allowed to get in and have control.

[00:15:36] These sites in the past, that's just not been the case.

[00:15:40] They just never had access to them.

[00:15:42] And the intel community, which a lot of people refer to as a deep state, is real and it does exist.

[00:15:48] And that's going to be a problem for Trump.

[00:15:50] And if he doesn't find a way to get it back to where it belongs in a nonpartisan state, he's going to fight that through his whole term.

[00:16:00] And, you know, Sam, I made a comment on the last one.

[00:16:02] We've got to be very careful, too, before you go on.

[00:16:04] We've got to make sure the pendulum doesn't swing so far the other way to where it's just all about retribution and all about attacks and all about getting back at the other guys.

[00:16:10] And we can't fall into that trap.

[00:16:13] We've got to be above all that and say, wait a minute.

[00:16:15] If it's bad for the country, it's bad for everybody.

[00:16:17] If it's good for the country, it's good for everybody.

[00:16:19] We're going to look at the rule of law here.

[00:16:21] We're going to hold the moral high ground here.

[00:16:22] I mean, that's where the thinking has to start, Tim.

[00:16:27] Absolutely.

[00:16:28] You know, Sam, when we were younger, I mean, this will show our age.

[00:16:31] But when we were younger, you could have a different opinion than someone else.

[00:16:33] You could have different political beliefs.

[00:16:34] You could even talk about who you voted for and not be the same person you were still friends at the end of the day.

[00:16:39] Today, that just doesn't exist.

[00:16:41] It's just it's hard to find people like that.

[00:16:43] They believe that everybody has to drink the same Kool-Aid or you're not a part of the club and they want to kick you out and put you to the ocean.

[00:16:50] And how do we get there?

[00:16:52] Is the media responsible for that?

[00:16:53] Because I think the mainstream press has a lot of responsibility for that.

[00:16:56] I think the partisan politics, the founders warned us against parties in the first place.

[00:17:00] I think parties and the media have got us there.

[00:17:03] I think the extreme politics does it.

[00:17:06] It's like I was telling someone the other day, you know, I'm excited more about Kamala losing and not having to hear her for the next four years.

[00:17:14] But you don't like word salad?

[00:17:16] Come on, Tim.

[00:17:16] Yeah.

[00:17:17] You know, that laugh being gone is kind of a nice thing.

[00:17:20] But you don't like that?

[00:17:21] You know, they used to have these little laugh boxes.

[00:17:26] You could buy this little laugh box at like the joke store or whatever, and you'd hit the button and be like, ah, ah, ah, ah.

[00:17:30] And all these different laughs would come out of this box and stuff.

[00:17:35] It reminds me of that.

[00:17:37] Yes, yes, it did.

[00:17:38] It was a very, very annoying one.

[00:17:40] You wanted to take your kid's toy and throw it away.

[00:17:42] So the but the thing is, you know, I wasn't as excited about Trump winning as I was her losing.

[00:17:49] But one thing that did excite me about the Trump presidency, I know that he's surrounding himself with good people.

[00:17:56] And that excites me.

[00:17:58] That really does excite me.

[00:17:59] Some of the people he's surrounding himself with, I think, are going to do good things.

[00:18:03] And that excites me.

[00:18:04] But one other thing I'd like to mention, though, and I know the media is trying to spin this.

[00:18:08] They're trying to spin this as America has rejected a female president.

[00:18:11] No, it hasn't.

[00:18:12] America rejected Kamala Harris.

[00:18:13] And I encourage any good female person that wants to run for president to do it.

[00:18:17] And I guarantee America will support that female.

[00:18:20] Yeah, America did not reject a female.

[00:18:21] And America also did not reject an Indian woman or a black woman either.

[00:18:25] That isn't true either.

[00:18:26] America rejected Kamala's inability to communicate her vision to the American people.

[00:18:31] And they rejected her historical colonist agenda that she promotes on a daily basis.

[00:18:39] Her disregard for the rule of law and the process of America.

[00:18:43] And, OK, so they rejected Kamala's history and Kamala's inability to communicate.

[00:18:49] It had nothing to do with the factors the media is pointing to.

[00:18:52] Tim?

[00:18:52] Well, and the media forgets one thing.

[00:18:55] The Democrat Party rejected Kamala when she tried to run for president.

[00:18:58] She couldn't even get any votes in the in the any electoral votes or any votes from any states.

[00:19:04] Yeah, it was like a reality TV show.

[00:19:06] She was the first one voted off the island back in the day, right?

[00:19:09] Exactly.

[00:19:09] Exactly.

[00:19:10] And so, you know, they're going to they're going to talk about how she was rejected by the, you know, the American public.

[00:19:16] Well, the Democrat Party never even put her there.

[00:19:19] It was just the powers to be that put her there.

[00:19:21] And that is the reality.

[00:19:23] Let me tell you what else the American people rejected, in my opinion.

[00:19:27] This is just my thoughts.

[00:19:28] Let me get your thoughts on this.

[00:19:30] But here it is.

[00:19:30] You know, she skipped the primary because of the shenanigans between Donald or between Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

[00:19:36] She literally there wasn't a real primary in the Democratic Party side of things.

[00:19:41] And to me, that's a big problem.

[00:19:43] Nobody voted for Kamala, but she was at the top of the ticket, even though she was rejected a short four years before that or whatever.

[00:19:50] The American people don't want that either.

[00:19:51] Republican or Democrat set that aside.

[00:19:53] People want the process to work.

[00:19:55] And when you short circuit the process, everybody's offended.

[00:19:58] Everybody's going, wait a minute.

[00:20:00] That's not how it works.

[00:20:06] They also then say, well, you know, if Joe was bad all the time, how come you didn't alert us to this fact?

[00:20:12] How did it overnight become a problem?

[00:20:14] But before that, it was fine.

[00:20:15] They've got some explaining to do.

[00:20:17] They've never really explained.

[00:20:19] But it's smacks of election fraud.

[00:20:22] Nobody's comfortable when you have half the country skip a primary and have somebody in place that they never chose.

[00:20:30] Did that affect things, do you think, Tim?

[00:20:32] Oh, yes.

[00:20:33] And, you know, here's the other thing, too.

[00:20:35] And I knew back, and I don't know if you and I talked about this, but I knew back in January, February that Joe Biden wasn't going to be running on the main ticket.

[00:20:44] I've got a really good friend of mine who's pretty high up in the Democrat Party in Illinois.

[00:20:49] And I was talking to him about it.

[00:20:51] I said, you surely can't support Joe, you know.

[00:20:53] And he's like, you know, Joe's in bad shape.

[00:20:55] He goes, but we don't have to worry about that because he will not be running the main election.

[00:20:58] And I said, well, are you sure?

[00:21:00] And he goes, nope.

[00:21:00] And he goes, don't worry about Trump or Joe because Trump's going to be disqualified and Joe won't be running for the office in the Democrat Party.

[00:21:09] And I said, well, then why don't they do something about it now?

[00:21:11] Now, they knew then that they were going to pull him out.

[00:21:14] They knew in January.

[00:21:15] So let me stop you then.

[00:21:16] If they knew that ahead of time, which I agree they did, and they waited until after the primary so that there's no way you could have a primary, isn't that flat out in-your-face vote fraud?

[00:21:27] It is, Sam.

[00:21:28] But there again, there's a lot of things that happen in the – I'm not going to pick on the Democrat Party.

[00:21:34] There's a lot of things that happen in politics that shouldn't happen.

[00:21:37] And then –

[00:21:38] That's right.

[00:21:38] And the people that are connected in the big machine, you know, the big political machine heavy hitters behind the scenes, they control all this.

[00:21:46] And there's nothing going to happen to them, I don't believe.

[00:21:50] I believe that it's going to be business as usual, and it just continues on.

[00:21:55] I mean, you've got to think about this.

[00:21:56] When these people now have taken over control of different departments in our government, they can use that now as a political weapon.

[00:22:03] So who's going to bring it to their attention?

[00:22:05] Who's going to go after these individuals?

[00:22:07] I don't know about you, but I don't want to be the one doing that.

[00:22:09] That's why on day one I'd revoke their security clearances.

[00:22:11] But here's the interesting thing.

[00:22:13] They're starting to play nice to Trump now that he won, citing their policy that, quote, presidents can't be prosecuted, quote.

[00:22:21] Quote, the DOJ and special counsel Jack Smith now announced they are ending their federal cases against President Trump.

[00:22:31] Now, at first you go, why would they do that?

[00:22:33] Usually you would think they'd wait until he is inaugurated on January the 20th or at least until January the 6th when they all, you know, certify the vote and that kind of stuff.

[00:22:42] But they didn't.

[00:22:43] They did it now.

[00:22:44] And you wonder, are they just doing it because they are hoping that he'll be nice to them?

[00:22:49] Retribution's coming.

[00:22:50] Or do they do it because they really want to follow the rule of law?

[00:22:53] Or do they have something up their sleeve where they're going to be really nice on the front end but they've got a gotcha coming up or all the above?

[00:23:01] Why don't you start there, Tim?

[00:23:03] Well, and I think that we're going to see something different.

[00:23:06] When Trump became president the first time, he didn't – he wasn't a politician.

[00:23:10] He was a businessman.

[00:23:11] He had lots of connections.

[00:23:12] He had lots of connections in politics.

[00:23:14] But he didn't really know the game, okay?

[00:23:17] People say, well, of course he knew the game.

[00:23:19] Yeah, he did, but he didn't because he wasn't in the game.

[00:23:22] Yeah, government service is way different than the private sector.

[00:23:24] Let's be fair and clear.

[00:23:26] Absolutely.

[00:23:26] And so now he's surrounded himself.

[00:23:30] He's learned the game.

[00:23:31] He's surrounded himself with the right people.

[00:23:34] Now when he gets back in, now he knows what to do, where to go.

[00:23:37] He knows what to open, what doors to open, what to unturn, what actions he can do.

[00:23:42] And I believe it's going to be a different game now.

[00:23:44] And I think there's a lot of people who realize this.

[00:23:47] They know that now Trump knows what he's doing as far as what he can and can't do.

[00:23:54] Well, I pray that's true because, man, we need to shake up right now.

[00:23:57] America's in trouble financially with BRICS and everything else going on, competing currencies around the world,

[00:24:03] and digital currencies coming to the forefront.

[00:24:06] You know, we've got inflation on our hands.

[00:24:08] Now we've got to basically, in my opinion, the single most important thing that needs to be done,

[00:24:12] in addition to standing for pro-life, which we need more of that, but is to reduce spending.

[00:24:18] Elon Musk brought to bear for that purpose.

[00:24:21] How well will he do?

[00:24:23] We'll talk about that coming up in seconds.

[00:24:25] Tim Starks with me.

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[00:26:00] Perhaps more than many other countries,

[00:26:02] China will be affected by the new U.S. administration's trade policy.

[00:26:06] China's top legislative body is meeting this week,

[00:26:09] in part to determine the size of a stimulus package

[00:26:12] to strengthen the country's fragile economy.

[00:26:15] It's widely reported that Beijing will adopt a bigger stimulus in the wake of the U.S. election result.

[00:26:21] On the campaign trail, Donald Trump repeatedly promised to raise Chinese tariffs by up to 60%.

[00:26:27] The BBC's Celia Hatton.

[00:26:29] Cuba is reeling after a powerful Category 3 hurricane pummeled the island.

[00:26:34] Fierce winds knocked out the country's power grid.

[00:26:37] The magnitude of the impact from Hurricane Rafael remains unclear, though.

[00:26:41] As of now, forecasters had warned that Rafael could bring life-threatening storm surges to the island,

[00:26:48] along with destructive winds and flash flooding.

[00:26:51] After ravaging parts of the Cayman Islands and Jamaica,

[00:26:54] the hurricane moved on to Cuba.

[00:26:56] News and analysis, townhall.com.

[00:27:00] The on-again, off-again deal that could spare the lives of several alleged 9-11 plotters is on again.

[00:27:06] A judge at the Military Commission at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has ruled that plea bargains struck by alleged 9-11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and two others were valid,

[00:27:17] locking an order by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin to throw out the plea deals and continue to trial, a government official said Wednesday.

[00:27:25] The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the order, by Air Force Colonel Matthew McCall,

[00:27:31] had not yet been posted publicly or officially announced.

[00:27:34] Keith Peters reporting.

[00:27:36] A wind-driven wildfire in Ventura County, northwest of Los Angeles, has destroyed dozens of homes,

[00:27:43] the fire also forcing thousands of residents to flee the area.

[00:27:47] Some 14,000 people have been urged to leave as the so-called mountain fire expands for a second day.

[00:27:54] More on these stories at townhall.com.

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[00:28:12] Play with me more often.

[00:28:14] My mom's so busy with the board meeting.

[00:28:17] To spend more time together as a family.

[00:28:19] Do more out-of-the-house activities.

[00:28:21] This is a tough one.

[00:28:23] My parents, they do everything they love me.

[00:28:25] If it wasn't for them, I wouldn't have a roof over my head.

[00:28:28] They don't need to show it to me.

[00:28:29] They just know they love me.

[00:28:30] Well, not yelling at me very much.

[00:28:34] What do you want?

[00:28:38] Raise my allowance.

[00:28:40] To not argue together.

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[00:30:27] Ladies and gentlemen, I've got Tim Starks with me.

[00:30:29] He's a threat assessment, risk analysis, security consultant, and ultimate friend to Liberty on your radio.

[00:30:37] We're talking about the Donald Trump win.

[00:30:40] On day one, President Trump should absolutely revoke the security clearances of all 51 thugs

[00:30:45] that lied about the Hunter Biden laptop and knew better from the start.

[00:30:49] That's election fraud.

[00:30:50] Not to mention having the Democrats literally skip a primary,

[00:30:54] knowing full well Joe couldn't serve because he's too ill.

[00:30:57] That's vote fraud.

[00:30:59] All I can tell you is this.

[00:31:01] Now they're being nice to the Donald, citing their policy that presidents can't be prosecuted.

[00:31:06] Clowns over at the prosecutory office, whatever you want to call it,

[00:31:10] Special Counsel Jack Smith and others, they're dropping everything against the Donald.

[00:31:14] And I asked Tim Starks right before the break, you know, what do you think about this?

[00:31:18] Is it that they want to be nice?

[00:31:19] Is it that they've got something up their sleeves?

[00:31:22] What do you think?

[00:31:22] Because, you know what, we're going to have a trifecta of Republicans

[00:31:25] who will hold the House, the Senate, and the White House.

[00:31:28] We'll get into that in a minute.

[00:31:29] But look, are they just hoping that Donald won't have retribution about them?

[00:31:35] Or do they got something up their sleeve?

[00:31:36] What do you think gives with this?

[00:31:37] They're just too nice.

[00:31:38] And it scares me almost.

[00:31:41] Well, I think on the face value, they're being nice.

[00:31:46] But I think behind the scenes, they're going to create chaos because chaos is one of the number one ways

[00:31:52] to stop progression and stop anybody from succeeding.

[00:31:55] Chaos is a number one cause of failure.

[00:31:59] So we'll see what happens.

[00:32:01] We'll see how much rioting happens.

[00:32:02] We'll see how much starts coming at them from all directions to create chaos.

[00:32:06] But having said that, I think he has some really good people on his team so far.

[00:32:11] I think there's some people that can handle that kind of activity and can help straighten out the chaos.

[00:32:17] Elon, for one.

[00:32:18] Let's talk about some of them because I agree.

[00:32:18] Elon Musk, a very, very smart guy, a guy that basically says, hey, he wants his role to be in the administration.

[00:32:26] Let's decrease spending, cut government agencies, go through with a fine-tooth comb, audit, audit, audit, audit,

[00:32:32] and get rid of waste and everything else.

[00:32:33] Man, I applaud that, Tim.

[00:32:36] Me too.

[00:32:37] And the guy's a genius.

[00:32:38] I mean, people can say what they want about Elon, but he's a genius.

[00:32:41] This guy has done more in our country in such a short time than any other person I can think of.

[00:32:48] And I know that's a pretty profound statement, but when you look at the things he's involved with

[00:32:52] and the success of these things, people criticize him because something he's working on,

[00:32:57] well, it took two or three years longer than he anticipated, but he accomplished it.

[00:33:01] Even the time he accomplished it in, it still...

[00:33:03] Or it didn't even pan out on occasion.

[00:33:03] That happens to the best of them too.

[00:33:05] Exactly.

[00:33:06] But all you've got to do is drive a Tesla or connect a Starlink and you'll see the point, right?

[00:33:11] Or watch.

[00:33:12] I'm still baffled by the landing of that rocket.

[00:33:16] People don't understand how amazing that feat was.

[00:33:21] There's no question.

[00:33:22] So you've got people like Elon Musk that'll make a big difference.

[00:33:24] You've got RFKJR who says he wants to get fluoride out of the water.

[00:33:29] I commend him for that because, look, you can always take a fluoride tablet.

[00:33:32] You can always go to the dentist and get fluoride, put on your teeth.

[00:33:34] But right now, Kamala said she doesn't know of any situation where a man is forced to do something

[00:33:40] he doesn't want to do with his body.

[00:33:42] But what about fluoride in the water?

[00:33:43] Unless you get water elsewhere or something like that.

[00:33:45] Everybody has fluoride in the water almost.

[00:33:48] And so RFKJR wants to stop that.

[00:33:52] I commend him for that because then you have a choice, right?

[00:33:56] You're correct.

[00:33:57] And I've grown to have a great respect for RFK.

[00:34:00] The more I've learned about this man and his desire to clean up the FDA and clean up our

[00:34:06] food system, I feel like I have had to deal with my health here lately issues because of

[00:34:13] the food system we have, because of the dietary, recommended dietary plans so-called that we

[00:34:20] have put out there.

[00:34:21] I've had to find out the hard way what's really a good diet and what's really good food.

[00:34:25] And the fact that some of these corporations are allowed to put some of the poisons and

[00:34:29] toxins into our food is a big deal.

[00:34:31] I know some people probably look at it and go, oh, yeah, whatever.

[00:34:34] But when you get older and you find out what the ramifications are of this kind of eating

[00:34:38] on your body, you start to understand.

[00:34:41] And I really respect RFK.

[00:34:43] And I think that we need someone like him to get in there.

[00:34:46] Well, and where are the environmentalists when you need them?

[00:34:49] Where's the earth-firsters and everything else when you really need them when it comes

[00:34:51] to our food and everything else?

[00:34:53] See, there's a big disconnect.

[00:34:54] And RFK is going to run that to ground.

[00:34:55] And I hope he does so.

[00:34:57] Here's what Donald said on election night.

[00:34:59] He says, RFK, have at it, buddy.

[00:35:00] Just keep your hands off the oil.

[00:35:02] Yeah, well, and that's the thing.

[00:35:05] We need responsible, intelligent, logical people when it comes to this.

[00:35:09] There are certain things we can fix in our environment and we can take care of.

[00:35:13] But there are other things that, let's face it, God created nature and nature is going

[00:35:17] to have its way.

[00:35:18] And you just can't do nothing about that.

[00:35:20] And people need to understand the difference in this.

[00:35:23] There are some things we have to throw up.

[00:35:24] What you can do about that is work together and serve one another.

[00:35:25] I look at what happened with the hurricanes.

[00:35:27] And, man, the private sector of good people helping one another was something to behold,

[00:35:32] Tim.

[00:35:33] Absolutely.

[00:35:36] It was incredible.

[00:35:37] All right.

[00:35:37] So that's one guy, Elon Musk.

[00:35:39] Another guy is RFK, JR.

[00:35:40] There are several people around Donald Trump that I believe could make a huge difference.

[00:35:44] Vivek Ramaswamy is one of them.

[00:35:46] You know, I'd put Sam Bushman and Vivek Ramaswamy.

[00:35:49] Michael Dell, Dell Computers had this idea of two executives in a box, right?

[00:35:54] And that way, if one was ill or couldn't do something, the other one was caught up on everything

[00:35:58] and they could just run.

[00:36:00] I think you need two in a box in a lot of positions.

[00:36:02] And I'd put like Vivek Ramaswamy and Sam Bushman together.

[00:36:05] As the media guys.

[00:36:06] Let us just take on the media.

[00:36:08] What do you think of that, Tim?

[00:36:10] Absolutely.

[00:36:10] I think you'd have two great guys there.

[00:36:12] And then you could put Ron Paul in charge of the Treasury Department.

[00:36:16] You could put Richard Mack in charge of the FBI.

[00:36:18] You could put Tim Starks in charge of cybersecurity.

[00:36:21] I mean, we got a lot of things.

[00:36:23] Just so you know, they say there's about 10,000 positions that Trump needs to fill.

[00:36:28] Yeah.

[00:36:29] And when he was in office the last time, he was never even able to fill them all.

[00:36:32] I don't know if you knew that, but they were not able to be filled.

[00:36:35] But in my opinion, you wouldn't do 10.

[00:36:36] You'd basically chop that in half to five.

[00:36:39] You'd get very capable people.

[00:36:40] So you'd have 5,000 instead of 10, just showing how you're saving money.

[00:36:43] But then you could get competent people and you could do this.

[00:36:46] But you've got to surround yourself with the right people.

[00:36:49] I think Donald's starting to do that.

[00:36:50] He needs more of it.

[00:36:51] But I'm saying at least compared to last time, he's on the right track, right?

[00:36:56] Yeah.

[00:36:56] And you mentioned something, Sam, that has probably been with us since the beginning of time

[00:37:00] in our country, the foundation of our country at the beginning of time.

[00:37:04] But when we have president and vice presidents, that's why we have a president and vice president.

[00:37:09] You always got to have that second person that's knowledgeable that can take over.

[00:37:12] Companies have the CEO, and then usually they have a COO, or they'll have someone that's

[00:37:18] in charge of finances or something.

[00:37:20] You have a secondary person in a large corporation that's ready to take over and take charge.

[00:37:26] Some people give them different names, but that's always the intent.

[00:37:29] Like in the CSPOA, the Constitutional Charist and Peace Officers Association, Richard Mack is

[00:37:33] the president and founder, and I'm the CEO for that very reason you point out.

[00:37:38] Yeah.

[00:37:39] And so, but the problem is, is we've gotten so convoluted in corporations and government

[00:37:46] that there's just too many people that think they're in positions of power and not enough

[00:37:51] doers.

[00:37:52] One thing, when I look at do risk assessment and do a risk assessment on our government,

[00:37:57] just like I do on a corporation, you start to see the bloat and you understand why our government's

[00:38:03] doomed if something doesn't change.

[00:38:04] And we'll have to do a whole nother show on that, that topic.

[00:38:08] But we, Trump is definitely going to have his work cut out for him and he's definitely going

[00:38:13] to have to do something about that because just because Trump's in office doesn't mean

[00:38:16] it's the problems are fixed.

[00:38:18] There's a lot of problems he's going to be faced with.

[00:38:20] Well, he can rely on, in my opinion, literally 3,000 sheriffs across the country.

[00:38:25] He can rely on the 50 state attorneys general and the 50 governors and realize that, you know

[00:38:34] look at the constitutions of each state and the general constitution.

[00:38:38] We delegated power to different groups, different jurisdictions, and the powers given to the

[00:38:43] general government are very powerful, but they're limited and defined.

[00:38:46] And I think that's where he needs to start the discussion and say, listen, I don't need

[00:38:50] this many people at the top.

[00:38:51] There's certain things we need to do.

[00:38:53] We'll do them well.

[00:38:53] But there's other things we need to push back and say they've flowed to the federal government

[00:38:58] level and they ought not be there at all in the first place.

[00:39:01] And so I bring that up because that's literally like 3,100 people right there that can take

[00:39:06] care of law enforcement, accountability with investigations, that can take care of all kinds

[00:39:12] of things, right?

[00:39:14] You're right.

[00:39:15] And I think that reverting a lot of this stuff back to the state is really important and

[00:39:19] critical.

[00:39:20] And, you know, that's one of the things, too.

[00:39:21] We talk about the people on Trump's team.

[00:39:24] I think Tulsi is another key individual that he has that helps that she understands a lot

[00:39:28] of this as well.

[00:39:29] By the way, I met Tulsi the other day and got my picture taken with her.

[00:39:33] Really?

[00:39:33] Well, she seems like an amazing woman.

[00:39:35] Nice lady.

[00:39:36] Yeah.

[00:39:37] She is.

[00:39:37] I'm impressed with her.

[00:39:38] And she's smart as a whip, too.

[00:39:39] And I think that she's learned a lot.

[00:39:40] She's grown a lot and should make a huge difference.

[00:39:43] I think there's a lot of people.

[00:39:44] Vivek Ramaswamy is another one I feel like.

[00:39:47] He's very articulate, very knowledgeable business-wise and everything else, too.

[00:39:50] And he can make a big difference as well.

[00:39:53] And now they say, oh, man, you're just rejecting Kamala because she's Indian.

[00:39:57] No, no, no.

[00:39:57] Vivek's Indian.

[00:39:59] Yeah, exactly.

[00:40:00] And I support Vivek's Indian heritage.

[00:40:03] And I realize that him and I don't believe the same religiously.

[00:40:06] None of that matters.

[00:40:07] The guy is spot on when it comes to God, family, and country.

[00:40:10] He believes in his God.

[00:40:11] He believes in his family.

[00:40:12] And he believes in his country.

[00:40:12] And I believe the same.

[00:40:14] And you know what?

[00:40:14] We don't have a lot of differences, Tim.

[00:40:17] We just don't.

[00:40:18] And you've got to respect a man that believes in God and his family.

[00:40:21] It doesn't matter what way and what flavor of Kool-Aid he drinks.

[00:40:25] The fact that he does it is important, and that matters.

[00:40:28] Yeah.

[00:40:28] And he's dedicated to it, though.

[00:40:30] He doesn't put it on the altar to just be destroyed.

[00:40:31] He stands by it.

[00:40:33] When he went into the debate, it was incredible.

[00:40:35] He ate everybody for lunch.

[00:40:36] It was something to behold.

[00:40:37] I'll tell you that right now.

[00:40:38] I'm impressed with him.

[00:40:39] He's very impressive.

[00:40:40] We only got one segment left.

[00:40:42] Sad.

[00:40:43] We've got to have Tim back.

[00:40:44] But I want to talk a little bit more about this trifecta, the House, Senate, and President

[00:40:50] controlled by the Republicans.

[00:40:53] And then I also want to talk about the media a little bit, because, man, they got spanked

[00:40:56] with this election win.

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[00:43:02] All right, Tim Starks with me, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:43:05] He's a threat assessment, risk analysis, security consultant, and a friend of Liberty.

[00:43:10] He's with me on your radio, and I want to talk about this trifecta.

[00:43:14] You've got Republicans will hold the House and the Senate giving President Trump and his agenda

[00:43:21] unprecedented mandate, if you will.

[00:43:24] Well, the Gateway pundit Ben Q with this piece, and you mix that with the fact that the media

[00:43:29] got spanked.

[00:43:31] I mean, even CNN writes an article.

[00:43:35] Brian Stelter over at CNN writes an article that says, Trump's return to power raises serious

[00:43:42] questions about the media's credibility.

[00:43:45] We'll get to that in a minute.

[00:43:46] First, what do you think of this trifecta, though?

[00:43:48] They've got to watch carefully that they don't just gloat.

[00:43:52] I'll give you an example.

[00:43:53] While the House was blocked by the Senate, they voted 40 times to get rid of Obamacare.

[00:43:58] The second the Senate was with them and they had the chance to do it, they didn't do it

[00:44:01] at all.

[00:44:02] They've got to be true blue for the cause and stand up for the promises that they've made

[00:44:06] on the campaign trail and be true to their platform, Tim.

[00:44:09] And if they don't quickly, the American people are going to lose their faith.

[00:44:13] Back in the 1990s, they had a Republican revolution.

[00:44:17] It was a freshman revolution, they called it, led by Newt Giddingrich, and it was an absolute

[00:44:21] meltdown disaster.

[00:44:22] They failed.

[00:44:23] We've got to make sure they don't do that this time.

[00:44:26] Yeah, and here's one thing I think.

[00:44:28] I think this is all being overplayed, Sam.

[00:44:30] I really do.

[00:44:30] I don't think this is that the Republicans don't have the control.

[00:44:34] Everybody thinks they do.

[00:44:35] Even if they win the House, it's going to be such a narrow margin.

[00:44:38] They do not have control.

[00:44:39] The reason I say this is not everybody in the party is in line, okay?

[00:44:44] And that means that, you know what, you've got two or three people that are good friends

[00:44:49] with the other side or maybe they're on the fence or maybe they're being paid off and

[00:44:54] they get paid to look the other way or paid not to vote.

[00:44:57] These kinds of things I'm sure happen.

[00:44:59] I'm not saying they do.

[00:45:00] I'm saying I believe they happen, okay?

[00:45:03] And we've seen things that would point to these kinds of things.

[00:45:07] And I just don't think that the Republicans are going to go in there with this kind of

[00:45:10] control.

[00:45:11] And like I said, when it comes to chaos, are they going to create chaos behind the scenes

[00:45:15] and start to turn some of the Republicans the other way on issues to where they can't get

[00:45:21] things passed?

[00:45:22] I mean, this happens and it's happened in the past.

[00:45:24] So I fear this kind of thing will happen.

[00:45:27] I mean, you'll see a lot of people being befriended and probably taken out by donors that are going

[00:45:34] to go out and start influencing these candidates to influence them not to vote on certain things.

[00:45:40] And we'll see what happens.

[00:45:41] But that's what I'm afraid is going to happen.

[00:45:46] I think you're right.

[00:45:47] Pray you're wrong.

[00:45:50] But I think you're spot on on that.

[00:45:51] I think it's not so easy.

[00:45:53] We've seen that before.

[00:45:55] But what the Republicans need to do is stick together for the causes that they have.

[00:45:59] And when they do have dissenters in their ranks that are betraying them for other reasons,

[00:46:02] they need to have transparency and expose that clearly and stand together.

[00:46:07] And I'll give you a quick example of that.

[00:46:09] In the Senate, Ron Paul is known or Rand Paul.

[00:46:11] Sorry.

[00:46:12] Rand Paul is known for saying, I got a penny plan.

[00:46:14] Now it's a nickel plan because we're so far down the road.

[00:46:18] But the penny plan was I want to save one one percent.

[00:46:21] I don't want to save one percent of an increased budget and we don't increase it as much as we could have.

[00:46:24] And so it's really more.

[00:46:26] But we're saying it's less and we're lying to the people.

[00:46:27] I'm talking about I want to take a dollar and I want you to spend ninety nine cents, not a dollar now.

[00:46:32] And nobody would back Rand Paul in that.

[00:46:35] That is the most peaceful, non-invasive, appropriate start to a real accountability discussion you could have.

[00:46:43] And in my mind, you should have had senators jump on that left and right and push Congress and make that a huge media op and everything else.

[00:46:51] But they didn't.

[00:46:53] No.

[00:46:54] And there's there's there's few people, I believe, that run for office that are passionate about what they do and want to do the right things.

[00:47:01] I believe that we in Missouri have Josh Hawley, who I think is one of those people that's passionate about what he does.

[00:47:08] And of course, when you have people like that, it sometimes becomes hard for them to keep their their position and keep their seat because they can be unseated by money.

[00:47:17] And so they've kind of they're walking a thin line unless they have their supporters support them.

[00:47:22] So that's why it's important for us as a nation to unify and get behind those who want to do the right.

[00:47:29] We really got to fight the big money.

[00:47:32] I agree.

[00:47:33] And I'm disappointed in Missouri because you guys just doubled down and voted for pro murder.

[00:47:37] Or I don't that is a bad I, you know, and I wouldn't vote it.

[00:47:42] I'm going to tell you, this is the thing that's the problem.

[00:47:44] The way they worded it was horrible.

[00:47:47] It was horrible.

[00:47:47] I voted to deceive the people.

[00:47:50] They they did.

[00:47:51] And they deceive people.

[00:47:52] I talked to people and like, well, I said, Missouri has a provision.

[00:47:55] I said I had a friend of mine's daughter who had an abortion because she was had a health issue and she got an abortion because it was going to cause death, you know?

[00:48:04] And so this was an outright lie, what they were trying to say in Missouri, that you could not do this without this provision.

[00:48:11] And it was just a lie.

[00:48:13] And I actually posted it on Facebook showing people because people were telling me what it said.

[00:48:16] I said, here, here's what the amendment says right here.

[00:48:19] And people read it and they're like, oh, my gosh, this is different than what they're saying on the ads.

[00:48:22] I said, welcome to politics.

[00:48:24] Welcome to politics.

[00:48:25] And it makes you really need to know, hey, read that thing, study it, understand the pros and cons and what it really means.

[00:48:32] All right.

[00:48:33] I want to focus on the media before the end of the hour.

[00:48:35] Trump's return to power raises serious questions about the media's credibility.

[00:48:42] Even CNN is writing this stuff.

[00:48:46] Really, I would say that the media got the biggest spanking of the election.

[00:48:49] Their polls pretended it was close.

[00:48:51] It was a blowout.

[00:48:52] It wasn't even close.

[00:48:53] Their polls were wrong.

[00:48:54] They were lying, telling you all kinds of bogus stuff about Donald Trump, all kinds of promotion of Kamala Harris, which a lot of it's false and fake news.

[00:49:02] The media got spanked big time.

[00:49:05] I've been giving speeches about the new media takes center stage and he who owns the media makes the rules for a long time before anybody else even got onto this stuff.

[00:49:12] I mean, for literally 30 years I've been talking about this.

[00:49:14] But now it's coming full circle when CNN even admits it.

[00:49:17] Tim?

[00:49:19] You know, Sam, that's one thing I remember about you when I first met you is he who owns the media topic there in your book that you wrote.

[00:49:26] And you were dead on.

[00:49:27] You know, the media that we used to know when we were younger that was a nonpartisan or at least they had representation from both parties existed.

[00:49:36] But now it doesn't.

[00:49:37] And the media that we have today seems like the mainstream media is so partisan in its presentation and its coverage of things that you just can't even watch it because it's so biased.

[00:49:49] And I think people are getting tired of this.

[00:49:51] Well, I don't think.

[00:49:51] I know people are getting tired of this.

[00:49:53] Yeah, because in the real world we're not that fractured.

[00:49:55] We're kind to one another even if we don't agree on everything.

[00:49:57] We can live together peacefully and normally.

[00:49:59] And if you watch the press you don't believe that.

[00:50:01] But if you live day-to-day life, look, there's black Democrats holding the door open for white Republicans and vice versa.

[00:50:06] Because you know what?

[00:50:07] Day-to-day we just want to be left alone and live our lives and be peaceful and respect one another.

[00:50:11] We all want the same things for crying out loud.

[00:50:14] Yeah, and you know, this is the problem I see too is we have a lot of people who've checked out because it's gotten so divisive.

[00:50:22] They've just checked out of politics, voting, everything.

[00:50:24] And I think that the corrupt ones in charge, they want that.

[00:50:27] If they can discourage you from getting involved, they can get away with murder.

[00:50:31] And that's one of the techniques I think they use on purpose is to just make politics so ugly, so nasty that you never talk about it in public,

[00:50:39] and they can get away with anything they want.

[00:50:42] But that's the biggest lie we've been sold is to not talk about things in public.

[00:50:45] We need to talk about things.

[00:50:46] We need to talk about our opinions and get it out there.

[00:50:49] I just had a situation with a friend of mine.

[00:50:50] He says, I said, I was voting for no on all the amendments in Missouri.

[00:50:54] And he says, what about Amendment 7?

[00:50:56] And I'm like, what about it?

[00:50:57] And he explained it to me.

[00:50:58] And I'm like, oh, I understood it differently.

[00:51:00] And I actually voted for Amendment 7 in Missouri.

[00:51:03] It was one of them things that I wasn't going to, but I talked.

[00:51:05] And because we talked, I had a different understanding of it.

[00:51:09] And, you know, and there was another amendment in Missouri, an amendment too, that I talked to a friend of mine who was going to vote for it because he's like, well, gambling is no big deal.

[00:51:16] And I said, you don't understand what it's going to do.

[00:51:18] This online gambling is going to suck the money out of Missouri.

[00:51:21] These corporations, whether they're out in Nevada or whatever, it'll just suck the money right out of our state.

[00:51:26] It's a horrible thing.

[00:51:29] Well, I agree.

[00:51:30] The yesteryear media, though, people are waking up to the awful state that the media has created in America, the divide and conquer tactics and everything else.

[00:51:37] And Americans are pushing back and literally turning off the yesteryear media.

[00:51:41] They're becoming more irrelevant every single day.

[00:51:43] And you see people like Glenn Beck and Tucker Carlson, and I can name names.

[00:51:47] They've all left the mainstream networks because they've been abused by them and wronged by them to the point.

[00:51:52] And now we've got more new media and more like Tucker Carlson.

[00:51:57] No one owns him now.

[00:51:58] Elon Musk, no one owns him now.

[00:52:00] Donald Trump and True Social, no one owns him now.

[00:52:02] Glenn Beck and his blaze, no one owns him now.

[00:52:05] Sam Bushman, hey, I was doing this before all these clowns started doing it.

[00:52:08] So, hey, welcome to the party people.

[00:52:08] I was going to say, don't forget yourself there, Sam.

[00:52:10] Don't forget yourself.

[00:52:11] You're doing a great job.

[00:52:12] But they're all right, though.

[00:52:14] And now we're seeing a serious sea change.

[00:52:16] We've got to keep it up, Tim.

[00:52:19] Absolutely.

[00:52:19] You know, networks like yours are doing and people are turning to them now because they realize they're getting a more fair presentation of the events that are going on.

[00:52:28] And a more, what's the word I'm looking for, Sam, here?

[00:52:33] They're getting a, not so much a nonpartisan view, but you're getting.

[00:52:38] It's not bipartisan.

[00:52:39] It's nonpartisan.

[00:52:40] I'm not interested in any party.

[00:52:41] I'm interested in right and wrong.

[00:52:43] Yeah.

[00:52:43] But then, you know, you have your beliefs.

[00:52:45] But the thing is, you present it all out there and you talk about it.

[00:52:48] And that's the thing people want to hear.

[00:52:50] But I'm also willing to let others have their beliefs, too.

[00:52:53] I'll have people on I completely disagree with.

[00:52:54] I don't have to slaughter them or abuse them.

[00:52:56] Let them make their case to the American people and let the people decide.

[00:52:59] People can think through this stuff, Tim.

[00:53:02] Absolutely.

[00:53:03] And you tend to do that very well.

[00:53:07] That's because I don't think I know everything.

[00:53:08] I mean, I'm pretty smart in a lot of ways.

[00:53:10] And I, you know, but at the same time, I'm not the smartest guy in the room.

[00:53:13] And don't pretend to be.

[00:53:14] I think we can all that's the genius of America is all these ideas coming together in this great think tank that that produces the best in the world, Tim.

[00:53:24] Absolutely.

[00:53:25] We need to be open minded and be able to discuss our ideas and opinions with others and hear people out.

[00:53:30] And then at the end of the day, we come up and form our own opinion based on what we've heard.

[00:53:33] If you don't ever talk about it and have these discussions, you can never have a truly educated opinion.

[00:53:38] You have a spoon fed opinion and that's not the same.

[00:53:41] People have to understand the difference.

[00:53:43] If you're fed the information, you have a very tainted opinion based on what you're being told.

[00:53:50] You also have to be smart enough to separate ideas from the people.

[00:53:53] Just because somebody has a bad idea, that doesn't mean they're a bad person.

[00:53:56] You've got to not make it personal.

[00:53:57] You've got to say, listen, ideas and opinions or views, people can have those.

[00:54:01] But you know what?

[00:54:02] Somebody with views on every topic, I could disagree with them, but I could still be a nice neighbor to them.

[00:54:07] They could still come and knock on my door and get a cup of milk for their recipe.

[00:54:10] We can still be friends and wave to one another and be kind and gentle.

[00:54:14] And all I could say is a call for civility, huh?

[00:54:17] There you have it.

[00:54:18] Tim Starks, thanks for joining me, sir.

[00:54:21] I agree, Sam.

[00:54:21] Thank you.

[00:54:22] And you have a good one.

[00:54:23] He's a friend of Liberty, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:54:25] He's also a security consultant, does a phenomenal job.

[00:54:27] We'll have him back on the radio from time to time.

[00:54:30] We want to hear from everybody.

[00:54:31] We want the American people to make up their own minds, right?

[00:54:34] I want you to be able to do the same thing I do, and that's think for yourself, but learn to think critically.

[00:54:39] From LibertyRoundTable.com and LovingLiberty.net, God save the republic.