Radio Show Hour 1 – 10/16/2024

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[00:00:36] This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for October the 16th in the year of our Lord, 2024.

[00:00:43] This is Hour 1 of 2.

[00:00:46] And the goal always to protect life, liberty, and property, and to promote God, family, and country,

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[00:01:11] All right, we're all getting started.

[00:01:14] Hard-hitting talk at your fingertips starts now.

[00:01:17] I want to talk tech for a second because we keep an eye on tech so you don't have to.

[00:01:22] A dear friend of mine, his name is Michael Harrison.

[00:01:26] He is the president and founder of Talkers Magazine and Talkers Media, talkers.com, to learn more.

[00:01:33] Anyway, Talkers publisher Michael Harrison addressed a packed house of New Jersey political, civic, and business leaders

[00:01:44] at I guess what's called the Hurley in the Morning Foundation.

[00:01:47] I guess they had a charity dinner.

[00:01:49] It was in Atlantic City.

[00:01:51] And I guess Michael Harrison was asked to speak on the topic of the biological and sociological impact of modern era communications.

[00:02:03] Now, that's interesting.

[00:02:05] The sociological, biological, the impact, the whole bit, okay?

[00:02:10] So you kind of think, wow, that's a big topic.

[00:02:13] Boy, howdy is it.

[00:02:14] But Michael chose to talk about something that's very controversial.

[00:02:19] Now, let me, before I get into the topic at hand, preface what Michael is and does.

[00:02:25] Number one, Michael has been in the talk radio industry forever.

[00:02:29] And that's not a slight saying he's old, although we're all getting old, right?

[00:02:33] It's more of an endearment saying the guy's been around, that he's seen it all.

[00:02:37] And he was one of the critical, unique, ahead-of-his-time thinkers when he got involved years ago.

[00:02:44] He's been a leader in this industry ever since.

[00:02:47] And one of his incredible talents is to look forward and see what's happening in the industry and capitalize on that in very productive ways.

[00:02:56] His other skill is to bring people together in meaningful ways.

[00:02:59] So you take the right, the left, the liberals, the conservatives, the whatever you want to call them,

[00:03:03] and he has a way of setting aside all that and saying, you know what?

[00:03:06] We've got many things in common.

[00:03:09] Let's focus on those.

[00:03:10] And not only do we have many things in common, but it's okay that we have differences, and those differences can be our strengths.

[00:03:18] All right?

[00:03:18] So he's really good at bringing people together.

[00:03:20] But he's also good at calling a spade a spade.

[00:03:23] And that's where this dinner that he had the opportunity to speak at really shines.

[00:03:28] The question is, can radio talk show hosts be replaced by AI?

[00:03:35] Yeah.

[00:03:36] It's called Up Close with Michael Harrison.

[00:03:40] Talkersmediatalkers.com is where I got the piece.

[00:03:43] Anyway, he really brings up some insightful details.

[00:03:47] Are we going to be able to have AI computers or robots battle back and forth and have meaningful conversations,

[00:03:54] pitting robot against robot, and pitting then the robot against maybe a caller, maybe a guest, maybe a...

[00:04:02] Are the talk show folks going to lose their jobs?

[00:04:06] And Michael answers both questions.

[00:04:09] Let's hear what he has to say.

[00:04:10] The dark strike that we just experienced is about automation.

[00:04:15] It goes back to the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, people worrying that new technology is going to take jobs.

[00:04:22] And we're dealing with that right now.

[00:04:25] I'm asked all the time by talk show hosts,

[00:04:26] Michael, do you think that robots will be able to take our jobs on talk radio as talk show hosts?

[00:04:35] Will we lose our jobs?

[00:04:36] Because they're already losing jobs.

[00:04:38] DJs are in terrible shape.

[00:04:40] Music radio is in terrible shape.

[00:04:42] But artificial intelligence generated voices are able to do music very easily.

[00:04:49] Also documentaries have thrown a lot of people out of work.

[00:04:52] But could talk show hosts lose their jobs?

[00:04:56] Could two robots have a conversation with each other?

[00:05:00] Or could a robot have a conversation with a caller and have it seem real?

[00:05:06] And my answer is yes.

[00:05:09] Very easily.

[00:05:11] Almost there right now where it would be flawless.

[00:05:14] And why is that?

[00:05:15] Because every talking point on the left or the right, the Democrats, the Republicans, the middle, whatever it is,

[00:05:24] every talking point is being said over and over and over again.

[00:05:31] And it's all out there in cyberspace.

[00:05:34] And a robot, a computer, an intelligent computer, can be fed every one of those moves.

[00:05:43] Just like, I think, Ken Jennings, the champion of Jeopardy, was beaten by Big Blue, a computer.

[00:05:49] The computer beat him.

[00:05:50] And chess champions, the greatest chess champions, have been beaten by computers.

[00:05:55] So why couldn't a robot that has every talking point and retort fed into it, operating at lightning speed,

[00:06:07] being able to make any kind of voice or any kind of emotion be pitted against another one

[00:06:14] and have them trigger each other into a conversation?

[00:06:18] It can be done.

[00:06:20] And they would be faster.

[00:06:23] And they would be better in some ways than a human being.

[00:06:28] Now, that's a very controversial thing I just said.

[00:06:30] So what's the solution?

[00:06:33] Because I still prefer human beings to robots.

[00:06:36] I'm still uncomfortable with the idea that Siri may not like me.

[00:06:41] I called her a bitch the other day.

[00:06:44] To my wife.

[00:06:46] I didn't realize she was listening.

[00:06:48] And the light went on.

[00:06:50] The eye, howl.

[00:06:52] It's looking at me on my phone.

[00:06:54] And she said, I'm not prepared to talk about that.

[00:06:59] I said, Siri, I'm sorry.

[00:07:01] I panicked.

[00:07:02] Maybe somewhere there's a committee that's listening and taking down notes about what you say about Siri

[00:07:06] and how you feel.

[00:07:07] Because we're all being listened to at all times.

[00:07:12] And she just looked at me.

[00:07:14] She didn't do it.

[00:07:15] She didn't disagree.

[00:07:16] Siri, go away.

[00:07:18] No, she just looked at me for what seemed like the longest minute.

[00:07:21] And then she went out.

[00:07:24] But back to the talk radio hosts.

[00:07:28] What do you do to combat that?

[00:07:30] I told them.

[00:07:31] And they said, what do we do?

[00:07:33] I said, you up your game.

[00:07:35] You stop using all the damn talking points that you hear everybody saying over and over and over.

[00:07:41] I mean, you could throw up already from all the talking points.

[00:07:44] The same ones.

[00:07:44] And then they want to have a vice presidential debate that's civil.

[00:07:48] And it's all real talking points.

[00:07:50] And people are like, oh, that's boring.

[00:07:53] We don't want what we say we want.

[00:07:55] We want constant titillation.

[00:07:57] We want it in 30 seconds.

[00:07:59] And we love all this dirt.

[00:08:01] We love the dirt.

[00:08:03] So you have to up your game, I tell the hosts.

[00:08:06] You've got to come up with original angles, original thoughts.

[00:08:10] Thoughts that have not already been put out there for these algorithm-driven mechanical brains to draw upon at lightning speed and throw at each other.

[00:08:23] And you better start doing it quickly.

[00:08:27] So that's a big concern right now.

[00:08:30] All right.

[00:08:31] Back with you live.

[00:08:32] As you can tell, Michael Harrison, a very capable speaker, number one.

[00:08:36] Number two, he brings up some real hard questions that many of us need to think about, whether it's our jobs personally in whatever field we're in or whether we're talk show hosts.

[00:08:47] Right.

[00:08:47] And the answer is, yes, these robots are very good.

[00:08:51] Yes, they can grab data and regurgitate it in an instant.

[00:08:56] And yes, the new AI versus just data regurgitation is that it can interpret the data once in a while.

[00:09:03] It hallucinates, but they're working on that.

[00:09:06] It won't be long until that's not the case.

[00:09:08] And it's able to not only take that information and put it in context and co-locate it and put data points and facts and details back to back in meaningful ways.

[00:09:17] And so, yes, reality is that these robots could argue, could have a dialogue, could interact with each other.

[00:09:28] With colors.

[00:09:30] With guests in very productive, meaningful ways.

[00:09:34] But Michael also brings up something really important.

[00:09:37] He says, but we talk show hosts have got to step it up.

[00:09:41] And boy, howdy, I think he's right on that.

[00:09:44] You know, the difference between a good talk show host and a great talk show host is preparation.

[00:09:49] The difference between getting okay grades in college and great grades in college is the time you put in.

[00:09:57] So, folks, the computers know the talking points and can regurgitate them.

[00:10:00] Now the computers are getting even better at putting them in context in meaningful ways.

[00:10:04] And believe it or not, a computer could probably take all the talking points and beat you at bringing up all the different ways to look at something.

[00:10:12] A computer's good at that and can beat you at that every time.

[00:10:14] You might be pretty good at math in your head, for instance, but the computer's great at math in its head, right?

[00:10:21] I mean, just great at it.

[00:10:22] And so you need to understand you're not going to beat the computer in that.

[00:10:25] Let me tell you where you're going to beat the computer.

[00:10:27] In personality.

[00:10:29] In unique delivery.

[00:10:30] In humble, emotional talk.

[00:10:33] Right?

[00:10:34] Talk that grabs your attention.

[00:10:36] Right?

[00:10:36] When I all of a sudden just go off on a personal story and tell you something.

[00:10:41] Can the computer do that?

[00:10:42] Yes, it can.

[00:10:43] But can it do it with the emotion that I can?

[00:10:47] I don't think so.

[00:10:49] Wait a minute, Sam.

[00:10:50] Aren't the computers going to be able to eventually mimic emotions?

[00:10:52] Yes.

[00:10:53] But they're going to have a hard time with the pauses, with the nuances, with the emotions, with the...

[00:11:02] In other words, I run ChatGPT right now and it says, as of my last update, here's what I know.

[00:11:08] So learn to tell modern, real stories.

[00:11:11] Learn to convey facts and details about your life and your unique experiences that the computer just doesn't know and doesn't have.

[00:11:19] Learn to interact and ask off-the-beat questions.

[00:11:24] You know, our dear friend Larry of old was able to really ask hard questions.

[00:11:30] Right?

[00:11:32] Interesting questions.

[00:11:33] It just came natural to him.

[00:11:35] He'd sit back and, wow, he could ask a question and you would go, hmm, that's interesting.

[00:11:40] What is it?

[00:11:40] What's the answer going to be?

[00:11:42] The computer could come up with canned questions, but the computer can't come up with questions asked in unique ways that only, say, Sam Bushman could ask.

[00:11:51] Or somebody else might ask.

[00:11:53] So the trick is to put your personality into the mix.

[00:11:56] The trick is to put your unique delivery into the mix.

[00:12:00] And the trick is, going back to the college example that I used, is to put the time in.

[00:12:05] And when you do those things, computers are going to have a hard time.

[00:12:09] But rather than think of a computer as your enemy, think of a computer as your prep tool.

[00:12:16] Think of the computer as your ability to, you know what, computer?

[00:12:20] Tell me all the talking points to something.

[00:12:23] Great.

[00:12:23] I've got them all.

[00:12:24] Now I'm going to take those talking points and how do I make them unique to Sam Bushman, your talk show host?

[00:12:30] Because understand, this is a fact about talk radio.

[00:12:33] Talk radio has always been celebrity-driven to some degree.

[00:12:37] In other words, personality-driven.

[00:12:39] You know what?

[00:12:40] It's Sam Bushman on the radio right now.

[00:12:42] It's Michael Harrison on the radio.

[00:12:44] It's Dennis Prager on the radio right now.

[00:12:47] And I can keep going.

[00:12:48] It's Glenn Beck on the radio right now.

[00:12:50] And it's that uniqueness and that personality that you get that the computer just cannot mimic.

[00:12:56] If you put in the time, if you make it personal to your life or personal to your life, and if you put in the time and then make it unique.

[00:13:06] Hey, there's these 10 talking points.

[00:13:08] So what?

[00:13:09] What did the computer leave out that I as a human can not only add but can make sing because it's so different, so unique, sort of out of the realm of the computer bot, if you will?

[00:13:22] And what can I do to really do the unexpected?

[00:13:30] Do the unique.

[00:13:31] Do the, what can I do that would make this sing?

[00:13:34] So here's what I would like to do.

[00:13:37] You remember the old days there was a guy named Phil in the radio.

[00:13:40] I won't even give you his last name.

[00:13:41] And I gave you Larry, and I won't give you his last name either.

[00:13:43] But Larry used to do a TV show, and it translated to radio perfectly.

[00:13:47] Now, can the computer make references like that to people that you might need to go look up that I'm talking about?

[00:13:52] Who would be able to guess who I'm talking about when I say Larry?

[00:13:55] Yeah, he was on TV, and he was on the radio years ago.

[00:13:58] He was so good, he asked the best questions of anybody.

[00:14:00] He was really one of the only people that was able to take a TV show and have a radio version of it without redoing the radio version separately for the most part.

[00:14:08] All right?

[00:14:09] But anyway, now I'm digressing.

[00:14:11] Okay, who's Sam Bushman?

[00:14:12] Who's all these other people?

[00:14:13] And if you make references to movies, to places, to people, to things in unique ways, the computer is unable to connect some of those dots at this point.

[00:14:23] Will it eventually be able to connect the dots?

[00:14:24] Maybe.

[00:14:25] Because if I talk about it, the computer could translate what I say.

[00:14:28] It could then go, hmm, who would that be?

[00:14:30] Who could be named Larry who used to do, and it could assemble all these facts, and the computer can probably come up with the answer faster than you can.

[00:14:38] But who can refer to Larry in a meaningful way and context, as I'm doing right now, and compare it to the robots of the future?

[00:14:44] You say, well, Sam, why are you comparing Larry and robots?

[00:14:48] Well, he was great and unique at questions.

[00:14:50] So unique that his personality drove everything that he did, and he was famous for it.

[00:14:55] The computer cannot duplicate that.

[00:14:58] And so what I'm trying to get across to you is, I would like to challenge the bots to a discussion.

[00:15:06] And we, the people, ought to not think of the computers as our enemies or our spar partner.

[00:15:11] We ought to think of the computers as a way to do prep and a way to get better.

[00:15:16] So like I mentioned on these talking points, how do I take all these talking points?

[00:15:20] How do I go ahead and look at it and go, what did the computer miss that I can bring to the table?

[00:15:27] Or, or sometimes the computer gets talking points A, B, C, D, E, F, G, seven of them.

[00:15:34] But the computer doesn't know how to take those seven separate points and merge them together in contextual ways that a human can.

[00:15:43] Right?

[00:15:43] What uniqueness do I bring to the table?

[00:15:47] I bring personality.

[00:15:49] Can the computer talk about God like I can?

[00:15:51] Can the computer talk about family like I can?

[00:15:54] Can the computer talk about country like I can?

[00:15:57] Can the computer bring people together like I can?

[00:16:02] Let's say we're having a debate.

[00:16:04] And let's say that the debate, it's a little controversial and it's a little back and forth and it's a little, I don't know what you want to say, hostile.

[00:16:12] I, as a human, can all of a sudden go, hmm.

[00:16:15] The comment I made went a little too far maybe or kind of broached that line of now it's getting personal and it ought not.

[00:16:23] Or et cetera.

[00:16:24] I can analyze that on the fly as a human because I can hear the emotion in those that I'm talking to or that are talking to me.

[00:16:33] I can hear the voice.

[00:16:34] They're straining their voice or their word placement that tells me that, you know what, they're now upset.

[00:16:40] The game has kind of changed.

[00:16:42] Well, if that's my goal, then, you know, continue to press those buttons.

[00:16:45] I don't believe in that kind of talk radio personally.

[00:16:48] I believe in great dialogue and I believe in vigorous differences of opinion.

[00:16:52] But when you cross the line and make it personal or if you take it too far to where now, you know what, it's not really a discussion for educational purposes or to gain knowledge or to learn different aspects of a topic.

[00:17:04] It's more now, you know, I want to win or lose or I'm being attacked or I'm now you've gone too far, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:17:10] And you've taken it, in my opinion, out of the realm of appropriateness.

[00:17:14] Well, the human can step back from that in a second and say, you know, Steve, I realize this is tough and I'm sorry that, you know what, we disagree so much.

[00:17:25] But I want to make sure that I'm agreeable when we disagree.

[00:17:28] I can do so agreeably.

[00:17:29] You know, we can just set that aside for a second or I can concede a point.

[00:17:35] A lot of times some of the best debaters learn to concede a point to someone when you know the point's not arguable, meaning you can't argue against it.

[00:17:43] Oftentimes what you do is concede the point and then you intelligently highlight how that point is to your advantage, even though you've agreed with your opponent.

[00:17:52] But you still need to see it my way and here's how and here's why.

[00:17:56] See, and so you can do these things as humans that the computer cannot walk that line as intuitively, as uniquely, because a lot of it's based on your gut.

[00:18:06] A lot of it's based on your personality.

[00:18:08] A lot of it's based on your desire and your willingness to bring people together in meaningful, productive ways.

[00:18:15] You see what I mean?

[00:18:16] There are opportunities for us in this AI world as talk show hosts.

[00:18:22] And I want you to learn to and think about how to seize those opportunities in meaningful ways.

[00:18:28] The computer could be a great tool for prep.

[00:18:31] If I'm going to go on the radio and discuss a news story or a topic, plug it in to the AI bot.

[00:18:36] Let the AI bot come back and give you a summary.

[00:18:38] Read that summary.

[00:18:40] Now you're 10 times educated on the topic as you thought you were.

[00:18:43] You know, a lot of us talk show hosts in the past have just relied on our great long-time experience in politics or our great long-term understanding of a given position that we hold.

[00:18:53] But see, that just makes you cling to that position.

[00:18:55] That just makes you rely on old and possibly even outdated knowledge.

[00:18:59] And it also means that that's how sides end up digging in and becoming more and more and more opposed to one another.

[00:19:06] What if you were to run a summary through the chat bot and come back and say, okay, oh, I see why they think that.

[00:19:13] I don't agree with it, but I understand it.

[00:19:15] They have every right to that belief.

[00:19:17] Oh, and when you get these summaries and read these summaries, then you become 10 times more able and nimble to navigate these topics in meaningful ways that can bring people together.

[00:19:29] The last point I'm going to make is how do you look at your job as a talk show host?

[00:19:32] Is it to create fight radio?

[00:19:33] There used to be a guy named Phil.

[00:19:35] Remember I mentioned him?

[00:19:36] Who is he?

[00:19:37] Well, he used to basically do his own voices.

[00:19:39] He would be his own guest and he'd be his own talk show host.

[00:19:42] And for a long time, people didn't realize that was happening.

[00:19:45] But he would mock his guests and he would this and that.

[00:19:47] The guests would be so polite.

[00:19:48] And it was all political theater radio.

[00:19:51] But my point is, can we learn to do that in our own heads but have a different purpose?

[00:19:57] Not just get ratings, but have a purpose.

[00:20:00] And the purpose might be to be empathetic, to put yourself in the other person's shoes.

[00:20:06] To give credence where, you know what, I don't agree with this point, but this is what others believe and here's why they believe that and here's why they think that.

[00:20:14] See, can you become a much more dynamic talk show host by using these educational tools at your fingertips?

[00:20:19] Things that the computer is so good at.

[00:20:21] Can you then use that to bring people together?

[00:20:24] Can you use those blended ideas of your own through time and experience and education and you're a great talker?

[00:20:35] Can you bring you to the table and the value of the computer to the table?

[00:20:41] That's what the computer's designed for.

[00:20:43] It's not meant to own you.

[00:20:45] It's not meant to control you.

[00:20:47] Although if we're not very careful, that's what could happen.

[00:20:49] It's meant to serve you.

[00:20:52] All right?

[00:20:53] We keep an eye on tech so you don't have to.

[00:20:54] And our goal is to let tech serve you in meaningful ways.

[00:20:56] So let that idea sink in for a second.

[00:21:00] I am in charge here.

[00:21:02] I'm the talk show host and I'm the human.

[00:21:04] I'm the creator of all content that I create.

[00:21:08] Now, can I use that computer in meaningful ways that can make my prep that much more thorough?

[00:21:13] Make my points that much more meaningful?

[00:21:17] Increase my understanding to where I can be empathetic and find ways to bring people together and further the civil dialogue?

[00:21:24] I think the answer is a resounding yes.

[00:21:27] Will you have the humility?

[00:21:31] Will you put in the time?

[00:21:33] And will you advance that cause in a meaningful way?

[00:21:36] And if the answer is yes to those questions, you will be a talk show host well into the future.

[00:21:40] However, I submit to you that I would say probably 50, 60, 70% of the talk show hosts will be replaced and will go away.

[00:21:48] I know with podcasting, everybody and their dog is a talk show host now.

[00:21:52] But very few people can show up every day.

[00:21:54] Very few people can take the time to go from good to great by putting in the time like going to college.

[00:22:00] Very few people can let their personality shine in a unique way.

[00:22:03] And very few people have the critical thinking skills to make sure that they stay ahead of the game.

[00:22:08] Use the computer as your servant.

[00:22:10] Let the computer serve you.

[00:22:12] Hey, what if I had a team of 50 people that could just do all the research for me and present it to me in a meaningful way?

[00:22:17] The computer can do all that for you.

[00:22:20] Now, how do I?

[00:22:22] How do I?

[00:22:23] Let me say it one more time.

[00:22:24] How do I, as a unique talk show host, then put my personality, my uniqueness, my spin, my find out what your talents are.

[00:22:33] I want to be like Larry and ask meaningful, reflective questions that make you go, hmm, what?

[00:22:41] Really?

[00:22:41] What's the answer to that?

[00:22:42] I want to know.

[00:22:44] And before you know it, titillating radios at your fingertips.

[00:22:46] But it doesn't have to be a slugfest.

[00:22:48] It doesn't have to be a Jerry Springer meltdown.

[00:22:50] It could be a meaningful, productive, intelligent conversation that actually furthers our societal direction in meaningful, productive, solution-oriented ways.

[00:23:04] What do you think of that?

[00:23:05] Is that a hope for the future?

[00:23:07] Strange stuff.

[00:23:09] I'll tell you what, man.

[00:23:10] Robots taking over jobs everywhere.

[00:23:13] It is a tech blessing and a tech nightmare.

[00:23:18] And I submit to all of you, it's who is in charge of the tech that matters and what are their intentions, right?

[00:23:26] If they intend good, it can be just an absolute blessing in the world.

[00:23:29] You know, think about the Industrial Revolution and how it, you know, everybody thought, oh, my gosh, everything's just going to go away.

[00:23:35] Most of the jobs we do today wouldn't have even been thought of back in the day, right?

[00:23:41] So things change and things can change for the better in many ways.

[00:23:45] We have a lot more time on our hands than our predecessors had.

[00:23:48] That's wonderful news, right?

[00:23:50] Our jobs aren't as hard.

[00:23:51] I mean, when we have to go on generator or, you know, deal with natural disasters and the day-to-day lives are very difficult and we notice it right away, right?

[00:24:00] So the changes in jobs can be wonderful, but it all depends on those who are at the helm.

[00:24:05] What are their intentions?

[00:24:06] Are there intentions to maximize our lifestyle, minimize our hard work?

[00:24:13] No, will we be completely out of work?

[00:24:15] I don't think so.

[00:24:15] There'll be new jobs, different jobs, jobs that you haven't thought of before.

[00:24:19] It's all a good thing, but I submit to you, it's all depending on whose hands are in control of the tech and what are their intentions.

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[00:30:26] Corrine Clifford.

[00:30:27] She happens to be a highly accomplished and versatile freelance journalist in Washington, D.C.

[00:30:34] Now that is an accomplishment, to say the least.

[00:30:38] Welcome, Corrine.

[00:30:39] Thank you so much, Sam.

[00:30:40] I'm so grateful to finally be on your show.

[00:30:42] Well, tell me about how you became a journalist.

[00:30:45] What happened is that in 2017, I was live streaming with some very wild boys in Beverly Hills.

[00:30:52] They're Sheriff Mack.

[00:30:53] And, you know, Baked Alaska was one of them.

[00:30:56] Ice Poseidon was another one of them.

[00:30:58] And I was doing it because I was pretty much rebelling against my family.

[00:31:01] And it turned into a series of events that culminated in the closures in 2020, the COVID closures,

[00:31:08] and the fact that we were forced to wear masks everywhere in Los Angeles.

[00:31:12] And then it culminated into the fact that they made us get vaccinated in order to go to a restaurant,

[00:31:18] in order to go to school, in order to work in Los Angeles.

[00:31:21] In L.A., it was not a mandate.

[00:31:23] It was a law.

[00:31:24] The city council voted unanimously to require vaccines to be able to work.

[00:31:27] And so I left.

[00:31:29] And I said, I'm leaving.

[00:31:30] And I'm going to go fight out the good fight in Washington, D.C.

[00:31:33] Probably one of the stupidest things I've ever done because D.C. is so intense.

[00:31:37] In your life, you grew up fairly wealthy.

[00:31:39] You grew up kind of not really interested in politics, right?

[00:31:41] I was never interested in politics.

[00:31:43] But I always had an open heart.

[00:31:45] And I always cared.

[00:31:46] I fasted for 40 days to get rid of nuclear weapons when I was 16 years old.

[00:31:51] I went to Pacific Palisades High School in USC.

[00:31:54] So you have been an activist.

[00:31:55] Just not necessarily political.

[00:31:56] And to some degree, and I'm not trying to be offensive with this,

[00:31:59] but to some degree your activism was kind of liberal at first, right?

[00:32:03] 100% liberal.

[00:32:04] I didn't even know what conservative was.

[00:32:06] I had no clue.

[00:32:07] I was just for the people, by the people, of the people.

[00:32:09] I always stood with the U.S. Constitution and free speech.

[00:32:12] I had no idea what Republican, Democrat.

[00:32:14] I didn't care about that.

[00:32:15] I cared about your freedom, my freedom.

[00:32:18] And what got you in a sense to switch sides is the Democratic Party went off the rails crazy.

[00:32:22] The Republicans kind of virtually became kind of half Republican, half Democrat.

[00:32:26] And you took the more conservative idea, which is we want to defend free speech.

[00:32:30] We want to respect people's rights.

[00:32:32] And that's how you landed there, right?

[00:32:33] So what happened is that a lot of my acquaintances and some of my friends got arrested for January 6th.

[00:32:39] So January 6th was my wake-up call.

[00:32:41] I should have been there.

[00:32:43] My plane ticket was purchased by someone that I thought was a Republican who was really a Democrat.

[00:32:47] They purchased my plane ticket.

[00:32:48] They told me to be there.

[00:32:49] But my daughter got COVID.

[00:32:50] So God saved my life.

[00:32:52] And I didn't go on the plane flight on January 4th.

[00:32:55] I stayed in Beverly Hills.

[00:32:57] And I took care of my daughter.

[00:32:58] I took care of my friend Stuart Rhodes in prison.

[00:33:00] That is right.

[00:33:00] And I've interviewed Stuart Rhodes.

[00:33:01] And he's an incredible man.

[00:33:03] And you know what?

[00:33:04] Thank God I didn't go.

[00:33:05] Because I would have walked all the way in.

[00:33:06] Because my friend Taylor Hanson filmed Ashley Babbitt being murdered.

[00:33:11] And so I would have thought it was okay just to walk all the way in.

[00:33:14] Because I thought we were all journalists.

[00:33:15] And we could just film wherever we wanted.

[00:33:17] I did not know that there were restricted areas at the U.S. Capitol.

[00:33:20] And so did my friend Victoria.

[00:33:21] How that same thing happened to her?

[00:33:22] Yes.

[00:33:23] And she got beaten up by Officer Bagshaw.

[00:33:25] Which is a disgrace to say the least.

[00:33:27] A disgrace.

[00:33:27] And our prayers are with her.

[00:33:28] And it's been an epic battle.

[00:33:30] Hopefully we're getting ground on it.

[00:33:32] Tell me a little bit more about the January 6th stuff.

[00:33:34] You've been watching a lot of investigations about it, right?

[00:33:37] So I've been in Washington, D.C. since January 2021.

[00:33:40] And in the beginning there were many of my acquaintances in the D.C.

[00:33:44] Google log.

[00:33:44] And that's when they were getting beaten up.

[00:33:46] And they were not being fed.

[00:33:47] And I was constantly trying to go there.

[00:33:50] And actually be able to walk in and talk to them and visit them.

[00:33:53] And I was getting blocked everywhere.

[00:33:54] So I've been there since day one of the progression of what's happened to the January 6th hostages.

[00:33:59] And what's happening just since January is that, you know, one plus a day have been arrested.

[00:34:05] So it's not ending.

[00:34:06] And what's happening now is that the D.O.J. is just on standstill to see if Trump can get in power in November.

[00:34:12] If Trump gets in, the J6ers will be freed.

[00:34:15] But if Trump doesn't get in, all of us could risk getting arrested.

[00:34:17] She is a communist.

[00:34:19] And if she takes over the White House, we're in trouble.

[00:34:23] Other than that, it's not so bad.

[00:34:24] I mean, she's pretty bad.

[00:34:25] Her husband's pretty bad.

[00:34:26] I've been to a lot of events around them.

[00:34:28] And they're pretty bad.

[00:34:28] And her husband is a lawyer.

[00:34:29] And he thinks he knows everything.

[00:34:31] And he's terrible.

[00:34:32] And his children are mentally ill.

[00:34:33] And I'm worried.

[00:34:34] When I first came to Florida, I thought the governor, DeSantis, was normal.

[00:34:37] And what I've seen this last month is so traumatic, I don't even know if President Trump can win this election in November.

[00:34:46] After what I've witnessed in Florida over the last four weeks.

[00:34:49] And when you say witnessed, are you talking about criminal activity?

[00:34:51] Or are you talking about just opinions against freedom or what?

[00:34:54] I'm talking about the criminal fraud that I've seen in the Florida primary, which culminated on August 20th, 2024, in Florida.

[00:35:02] I studied seven counties.

[00:35:04] There's 67 counties in Florida.

[00:35:06] I studied seven counties.

[00:35:08] Which counties?

[00:35:09] Do you have them?

[00:35:09] I just want people to understand.

[00:35:10] Yeah, so I studied Sarasota County.

[00:35:12] I studied Pinellas.

[00:35:14] I studied Hillsboro.

[00:35:15] I studied Palm Beach County.

[00:35:17] I studied Lee County.

[00:35:18] I studied St. Lucie.

[00:35:19] And I studied Charlotte County.

[00:35:21] Now that's an incredible cross-section of the state, isn't it?

[00:35:23] Yes.

[00:35:24] Okay, I wanted people to understand the breadth of your study.

[00:35:26] Go ahead.

[00:35:27] Yes, so I studied seven counties.

[00:35:29] Believe me, I would have studied more if I could have.

[00:35:31] But what I saw in those seven counties, especially Charlotte County, Florida, was so shocking to me.

[00:35:36] The current supervisor of election race is what I was studying specifically because they control all of the elections throughout Florida and in all of the counties.

[00:35:45] And the supervisor of elections race was so gnarly.

[00:35:48] It was so biased.

[00:35:50] The supervisor of election controls their own race, which is in itself unethical.

[00:35:55] Yeah, for sure.

[00:35:56] And in Charlotte County.

[00:35:56] It's a conflict of interest to say the least.

[00:35:58] Yes.

[00:35:58] And in Charlotte County, the supervisor of election, Leah Valente, she actually used taxpayer dollars to fund her own race for supervisor of election.

[00:36:05] So there's no way to win in Florida when the supervisors of election, they have so much power and they can use taxpayer money to fund their own electioneering.

[00:36:14] Do you think there's any way to expose that?

[00:36:16] I mean, I have been and I've been banned and censored everywhere.

[00:36:20] Not on Liberty Roundtable, Corinne.

[00:36:22] Thank you.

[00:36:22] That's why I'm so grateful to be here with you.

[00:36:24] But I got the story onto Infowars and into the Gateway Pundit.

[00:36:27] And right now, as we're sitting here, 500 pages was just filed this last week in Pinellas County to try to stop the election that just happened on August 20th.

[00:36:37] And hundreds of pages have been filed in litigation in federal court in Palm Beach County.

[00:36:42] And in that case, they have a judge Eileen Cannon.

[00:36:47] So something may give in Florida because Eileen Cannon is kind of fair.

[00:36:50] Well, the issue is that in Florida, there's a lot of noncitizens being allowed to get driver's licenses, which the next level is that they're being allowed to vote.

[00:36:58] And so in Collier County, they found two noncitizens voting and plus, plus, plus because they're all trying to audit their elections.

[00:37:06] So right now, the primary in Florida just happened on August 20th.

[00:37:10] Most of these counties that I've been telling you about, actually, there's eight counties, including Collier.

[00:37:13] They are trying to have their elections audited, and they're trying to see if noncitizens actually were allowed to vote.

[00:37:20] Obviously, dead people were allowed to vote, and the mail-in ballot was a complete nightmare.

[00:37:24] In Florida, there's a law that you have to request the mail-in ballot in order to have it sent to you.

[00:37:29] And most of the time, the people are not requesting their mail-in ballot, and they're getting it sent.

[00:37:34] And then in Pinellas County, 219,000 mail-in ballots were actually ordered on a Sunday.

[00:37:40] No one's going to order a mail-in ballot in that number on a Sunday.

[00:37:42] For sure.

[00:37:43] Who are you working with on this, and who's taking a lot of these things to court?

[00:37:47] So I have to work with my own company, America Happens News.

[00:37:51] We have our own website, and we're on Roker.

[00:37:55] We're on Foxfire.

[00:37:56] It's called America Happens.

[00:37:57] It's on Rumble.

[00:37:58] And then I report to as many news agencies like yours, Sam, that won't censor me and will allow me to get it to the front of the public.

[00:38:04] But in Pinellas County, the man who ran for supervisor of elections, his name is Christopher Gleason.

[00:38:11] He is in charge of the litigation that just got filed this last week.

[00:38:15] 500 pages with evidence and everything about how the vote was corrupted in his county.

[00:38:21] And actually, I was in Pinellas County on August 20th when we were in the Pinellas County supervisor of elections office,

[00:38:27] and the whole system just crashed for 40 minutes in 64 of the 67 counties in Florida.

[00:38:34] So if you have a whole system that's going to crash and then every America First candidate loses, it's pretty shocking.

[00:38:40] And if that happens in November, Florida's in trouble.

[00:38:42] Where do you think this is going to go?

[00:38:44] I mean, it's great to file lawsuits, but I'm jaded, Corinne.

[00:38:48] And I'm not attacking what you guys are doing by any means, but I've just got to where it's just like anybody that does anything good almost just gets shut down,

[00:38:54] and everybody thinks it's going to culminate in something that will change the game, and it just doesn't.

[00:38:59] Help me.

[00:39:00] I agree with you one million percent.

[00:39:02] One million percent.

[00:39:03] In Lee County, Florida, the man who's the supervisor of election in Lee County, he was having an affair with his mistress and charging it to the taxpayers.

[00:39:11] So the bottom line is that—

[00:39:12] Sounds like Fannie Willis.

[00:39:13] Exactly.

[00:39:14] In each county, there is so much corruption happening, and yes, you have the right to be disenchanted.

[00:39:19] But the bottom line is that what I found is that there are watchdog communities, like in Pinellas County.

[00:39:24] There's the Pinellas County watchdogs, and the leader of that, Kathy, is here today.

[00:39:28] And in Palm Beach County, there's Jane Justice, and she's got the watchdogs in Palm Beach County.

[00:39:33] So in each county, American patriots are really standing up, and they're not going to give up, and I think that's the key to everything.

[00:39:39] I'm very concerned about November.

[00:39:41] I'm very concerned that, you know, President Trump really understand what he's facing because if we use the machines, they can manipulate the vote, and that's what I'm worried about.

[00:39:51] You guys, we all knew this.

[00:39:53] Oh, yeah.

[00:39:53] So what might happen is that counties may be getting emergency injunctions, emergency injunctions to hand-count their ballots.

[00:40:03] That's being contemplated.

[00:40:05] Yeah, the mail-in starts in about 15 days throughout the United States of America.

[00:40:10] And so, you know, it was really important to make sure that the September 18th court case of President Trump got postponed until after the election.

[00:40:17] And that's what I'm seeing happening with the J6 political prisoners and everyone who has very serious litigation.

[00:40:22] It's all getting postponed until after the election.

[00:40:24] And that's why this election is so important and critical because people will be arrested in the masses if President Trump doesn't take back the White House.

[00:40:34] But do you think he wins?

[00:40:35] I don't think he can win.

[00:40:36] I don't think he can win.

[00:40:37] I think that they're going to mess with the vote.

[00:40:39] What I saw in Florida on August 20th traumatized me for life.

[00:40:42] I don't think Trump can win.

[00:40:43] I pray you're wrong, but I don't disagree.

[00:40:45] I'm praying to God I'm wrong.

[00:40:46] Like, I'm more than happy to come back and say I'm wrong.

[00:40:48] And I'll be so grateful and I'll be happy.

[00:40:49] I'll be grateful and I'll be crying if I'm wrong.

[00:40:51] I don't think Trump can win right now at the rate we're going with the election corruption.

[00:40:55] I don't think we've had enough change since 2020.

[00:40:58] And I think that it's going to cause some very serious problems.

[00:41:01] And I'm actually sinking into a very serious depression.

[00:41:05] If Trump doesn't win, I won't be able to live in Washington, D.C. anymore.

[00:41:09] And the J6ers will all go to prison and more will be arrested.

[00:41:12] So we have a huge problem where Christian American patriots are being arrested if Kamala Harris takes over the White House.

[00:41:20] Donald's own freedom is at stake.

[00:41:22] If he wins, you know what?

[00:41:23] The truth might prevail.

[00:41:25] If he loses, though, they're going to take off the gloves and they're going to throw Donald in prison, too.

[00:41:29] That is so true because everything's getting postponed until after the election because they know that it is election interference to throw all these lawsuits at President Trump before this election.

[00:41:39] So this is critical.

[00:41:40] Obviously, we all know President Trump will win.

[00:41:43] But will the deep state allow him to take back the Oval Office?

[00:41:47] Will they allow him to actually win on their terms?

[00:41:50] I don't think so.

[00:41:51] And they swear they won't let him in the White House.

[00:41:53] They won't let him near the White House.

[00:41:54] And that brings up concerns.

[00:41:56] I think we've got, even though it's 15 days until the election starts in terms of mail-in balloting and everything else and, what, less than 60 days until the election now?

[00:42:04] I'm convinced if we're not very careful, we've got a situation where I don't know that we'll even ever know the truth.

[00:42:11] And I completely agree with you 100%.

[00:42:14] And when I came to Florida, I thought DeSantis was the greatest governor.

[00:42:17] And I thought that the elections were great.

[00:42:19] And I thought Florida was the gold standard.

[00:42:20] But if we're having election corruption on this level in 64 counties in Florida, there's 67 counties in Florida.

[00:42:26] If we have 64 counties in major corruption, 10 that I've actually followed myself, 7 that I'm actually covering right now after the election, after the Florida primary, we're in trouble.

[00:42:36] And that means that Trump could lose.

[00:42:39] And we need to take action.

[00:42:40] The way to do that is to file injunctions in every county where there's a swing vote to make sure that they hand count the ballot.

[00:42:47] That is what I'm going to be focused on for the next six weeks.

[00:42:50] Shocking.

[00:42:50] Are there three counties that are, you feel like they're up on the up and up?

[00:42:55] There's three counties in Florida that don't use the VR system.

[00:42:58] And so they didn't get hacked or crashed.

[00:43:01] They're not on the VR system.

[00:43:02] In Florida, the VR system is the problem.

[00:43:05] So that's a very deep issue that only the governor and the secretary of state can correct.

[00:43:11] And they're not going to because the governor is in on this mess.

[00:43:14] He's part of the deep state now.

[00:43:16] And I see that happen in Washington, D.C., too.

[00:43:18] You see these congressmen who just get in for the first year, and they're really great, and they do great things.

[00:43:23] And then they get blackmailed, or they get extorted, and or they get threatened, and or they get money on the side.

[00:43:27] And then they change, and they go with the deep state.

[00:43:30] And that's a big problem.

[00:43:31] Yes, it is.

[00:43:33] Is Florida an Eric state?

[00:43:37] Florida used to be.

[00:43:38] But they got out, right?

[00:43:39] Yes, they got out.

[00:43:40] Yes.

[00:43:40] Okay, I thought so.

[00:43:41] I just wasn't positive.

[00:43:42] Yes.

[00:43:42] Florida got out, but they're having a problem now with the VR system.

[00:43:45] I understand.

[00:43:45] And the reason that I bring that up, folks, is this is multilayered.

[00:43:49] And I appreciate them getting out of Eric.

[00:43:50] It's a start.

[00:43:51] Yes.

[00:43:51] But it's only a tiny piece of the game here.

[00:43:53] When you got mail-in ballots, then you got the VR system, and then you got, and we can keep going, too, with the voter rolls, with motor voter stuff.

[00:43:59] You've got dead people on it, so no one's cleaning the voter rolls.

[00:44:02] You've got multiple issues here.

[00:44:04] They've got so many ways to commit fraud.

[00:44:06] We're just discovering how many ways.

[00:44:08] It's like the waste of sin, Corinne.

[00:44:09] It never ends.

[00:44:10] You know, in 2000, Florida decided who the president was.

[00:44:13] Yeah, with the hanging chads, you mean, and then the court case and all that?

[00:44:16] Yes, and that's how the machines took over in Florida, yes.

[00:44:19] Yes.

[00:44:20] Yeah, now it's not hanging chads.

[00:44:22] It's just digital ballot stuffing, right?

[00:44:25] And it's worse than that.

[00:44:26] There's blank ballots.

[00:44:27] I mean, there is so much going on in Florida.

[00:44:29] It's never-ending.

[00:44:30] And so, you know, Florida is easier to study because, you know, I'm not getting too many death threats, but it got really gnarly.

[00:44:37] A couple days after the election, I was getting death threats.

[00:44:40] A lot of bad stuff, all my phones got hacked.

[00:44:43] So there is deep state involved, and I am used to it because I am based in Washington, D.C.,

[00:44:48] but I'm very concerned that we're not going to do what we have to do in Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania.

[00:44:55] And so I'm really trying to reach out to the right people to say, hey, maybe it's time to file injunctions to force the hand count of the vote.

[00:45:04] But at this point, I don't know what other options we have left.

[00:45:07] True the votes, trying hard.

[00:45:08] They say we've cleaned up a lot, but I think we've just got too much to go.

[00:45:11] I don't think we've made a dent.

[00:45:12] I think we've probably accomplished 10 percent of what we need to accomplish.

[00:45:15] I agree, and I will never accept Kamala Harris as my president, so guess where that thought goes?

[00:45:21] We could be very divided if they don't allow President Trump to take back the White House.

[00:45:28] All right.

[00:45:28] Well, our prayers are with America, that's for sure.

[00:45:30] Tell me, you've watched the whole conference, except for who's speaking when you're in the interview right now.

[00:45:35] What have you liked the most about the conference?

[00:45:37] What speech or whose speech have you liked the most?

[00:45:40] Tell me what you think.

[00:45:41] I just respect Sheriff Mack so much.

[00:45:43] And, of course, Sheriff Darley from Berry County, Michigan, is one of the greatest men alive on planet Earth.

[00:45:50] You know, he states very clearly that he believes that there is foreign interference in his elections in Berry County, Michigan.

[00:45:57] He only believes he has documents to prove it.

[00:45:59] Yes, and that is so censored.

[00:46:01] You know, I went to Berry County, Michigan, to interview him, and I got half a million views just on X alone.

[00:46:05] But getting that story to the public, we went to Jim Jordan, we went to Marjorie Taylor Greene.

[00:46:09] They've all ignored that story, and that is very serious.

[00:46:13] That's treason if he has foreign interference.

[00:46:14] Jim Jordan showed his true colors to me when, you know, he talked and talked and talked about the criminal activity of Joe and Hunter and the people around them, Kamala.

[00:46:24] And then, hey, after Joe stepped down, they released this document saying, yeah, you know, there was impeachable offenses against Joe.

[00:46:32] Yeah, but you didn't do anything, Jim?

[00:46:34] You told me there was impeachable offenses, but nothing happened, and now you released this?

[00:46:38] That, to me, shows their true colors.

[00:46:39] They want you to be incensed so that you'll give money to the Republicans in this partisan divide.

[00:46:43] But they don't want to really deliver any goods to throw people in jail.

[00:46:46] And unless we put people in jail and create accountability, we're gaining no ground.

[00:46:51] Yes, and there's 200 spaces open in Guantanamo Bay right now, and that could either be us versus them, Sam.

[00:46:58] That's how serious this is starting in November.

[00:47:00] Yeah, we could end up.

[00:47:02] If they don't, someone's going to end up in Guantanamo Bay.

[00:47:05] There's 200 places.

[00:47:06] So is it going to be our side or their side?

[00:47:09] This is not child's play anymore.

[00:47:10] They've taken off the gloves, Corinne.

[00:47:12] Yes, they've taken off the gloves, and I've interviewed hundreds and hundreds of J6 hostages, and it's the worst.

[00:47:18] It's worse than you've ever heard before.

[00:47:20] Yes.

[00:47:21] And so it's going to be a bloodbath out there if we do not take back the White House in November.

[00:47:27] And if Kamala Harris somehow becomes the president, I will not accept her as my president.

[00:47:33] So where does that leave people like us, Sam?

[00:47:36] Well, I guess we could be like the liberals and say we're leaving the country, but I'm not.

[00:47:40] I'm not leaving.

[00:47:40] I'm not leaving the country.

[00:47:42] I'm going to stand up for the Constitution for the rest of my life, especially First Amendment free speech.

[00:47:47] Well, there's five guarantees in the First Amendment.

[00:47:49] Free speech is the first one, I think.

[00:47:50] Freedom of religion.

[00:47:51] Freedom of speech.

[00:47:53] Keep going.

[00:47:54] Freedom of the press.

[00:47:54] Freedom of the press.

[00:47:55] And your right to peacefully assemble and redress your government.

[00:47:58] Freedom to peacefully assemble doesn't mean freedom to riot, though.

[00:48:01] Or freedom to protest.

[00:48:02] It just means peacefully assemble.

[00:48:03] Peacefully, yeah.

[00:48:04] And then the redress of grievance one is critical because that's one we're not getting.

[00:48:07] Yes.

[00:48:08] So the J6ers that I know were peaceful people and different Antifa groups and feds made the whole situation get violent and volatile the second that congressmen like Osar wanted to come on and try to stop the certification.

[00:48:21] So that's what the key is here.

[00:48:23] And believe it or not, Congress has never even done anything about it.

[00:48:26] They sidestepped it.

[00:48:26] They could have come back and revisited the issue.

[00:48:28] They didn't.

[00:48:29] And that's why Congress is compromised.

[00:48:31] I honestly have to tell you that I really have not seen any congressmen get anything done.

[00:48:36] There's been a couple good hearings since I've been in Congress, since I've been in Washington, D.C.

[00:48:40] But the bottom line is that Congress, Senate, the House of Reps, they're not getting anything done.

[00:48:45] And that's why we have to have a strong leader.

[00:48:47] We have to have President Trump back in the White House to make some executive orders so that we get our freedom back.

[00:48:52] I really want the Patriot Act to be dismissed.

[00:48:56] Amen to that.

[00:48:57] Yes.

[00:48:57] We need to realize, too, folks, that these things don't happen to us all at once.

[00:49:04] It's taken them a long time to incrementally move towards tyranny as they've done.

[00:49:08] And we've been derelict in our duty and asleep at the wheel or whatever terms you want to use for this.

[00:49:13] It's going to take a bit to get it back.

[00:49:14] But it starts local.

[00:49:15] And General Flynn made a statement, and Mary repeated it last night, and I want to repeat it again.

[00:49:20] Local action has national impact.

[00:49:22] Isn't that what you really find when you're in the trenches, Corinne?

[00:49:24] Yes, one million percent.

[00:49:25] And since I've been in Florida, I've really seen local action.

[00:49:28] But the problem is that there's a lot of fake Republicans in Florida.

[00:49:32] The Democrats have figured out how to register as Republican and take over the counties.

[00:49:37] And so it's very important that everybody really decide what they want to focus on and get involved in their county level, because that's where you make the real change.

[00:49:46] If there's something I've left out, what would you want to tell America?

[00:49:48] What do you think needs to be brought up at this juncture before the election?

[00:49:51] What would you say?

[00:49:51] What's the most important thing to focus on?

[00:49:53] I think that we all need to focus on the fact that we have to vote on November 5th.

[00:49:57] You should vote the same day, and we have to figure out how to take a picture of who you vote, like your ballot, so you can keep track of it.

[00:50:05] And then we have to, in your own community, you have to figure out how to audit the vote.

[00:50:09] And potentially we might have to figure out in counties that are swing counties how to get an injunction to hand-count the vote.

[00:50:19] All that matters is hand-counting the vote.

[00:50:21] No one should lose hope, but November 5th is coming up fast, and I really want to stay focused on just voting.

[00:50:30] And, you know, each county is going to have to figure out how they want to handle it, and then the Trump team has to decide how they want to handle it.

[00:50:35] And so I'm in communication with the Trump team, and I think it's really important that people realize that we could lose in November.

[00:50:41] And that's why everyone needs to get out there and vote on November 5th, no matter what happens.

[00:50:46] But there could be a Black Swan event where they try to stop us from voting.

[00:50:49] What do you think about that, Sam?

[00:50:51] You know what?

[00:50:51] I literally was on a conference call on a—what do they call those?

[00:50:56] An X conference public event?

[00:50:58] What do they call those?

[00:50:59] Yeah, space.

[00:50:59] X audio, X space.

[00:51:00] Yes.

[00:51:01] And I was on one of those with Favek Ramaswamy, and I directly asked him that question,

[00:51:05] and he basically said, you know what?

[00:51:06] You can prepare the best you can, but it's Black Swan, right?

[00:51:09] So as a result, then, no matter what you prepare for, something will fly out of left field, and you can't plan on it.

[00:51:14] You've got to trust in God and trust in the American people if you want to kind of change the game, if you will.

[00:51:20] So I think his response was quite adept, quite appropriate.

[00:51:24] And I would add to that and say, we've got to trust God.

[00:51:27] We've got to do our very best.

[00:51:28] We can prepare for as much as we can.

[00:51:30] And then we're just going to have to just kind of roll with the punches.

[00:51:32] One of the ways that the military folks do it is they learn to prepare for every condition that they can possibly prepare for.

[00:51:37] And then when something happens they don't expect, they keep their wits about them.

[00:51:41] That's what we need to do here.

[00:51:42] Yes, I concur 100%.

[00:51:44] It's so important that we all stay super calm and we work together, united, not divided.

[00:51:48] Drop the past, work together, and make sure that Trump takes back the White House.

[00:51:52] And then we just take steps after that.

[00:51:55] But if Trump doesn't win in November, what do we do, Sam?

[00:51:59] In my mind, what we do is we stand up.

[00:52:02] I think the bigger profile you have, the less likely they can put you in prison.

[00:52:07] I agree.

[00:52:08] Some people would say, no, shrink back, don't say anything, try to just go under the radar.

[00:52:12] I don't believe that.

[00:52:13] I think you do that and that's your downfall.

[00:52:15] You've got to be as big and as popular and as public as you possibly can.

[00:52:18] You've got to be prudent in what you say and what you do in meaningful ways to keep your professionalism and your morality and hold the moral high ground.

[00:52:24] But the bigger profile you create, the less likely that you'll be the one taken down.

[00:52:28] That is 100% true, especially with the Christians that have been arrested and the J6ers that get arrested.

[00:52:32] The more publicity you get, the less they persecute and prosecute you.

[00:52:37] And the judges fold when you expose that they are denying evidence like they did in the Tina Peters trial.

[00:52:42] That's right.

[00:52:42] Tina Peters judge was so corrupt.

[00:52:44] And when you expose the corrupt judges, the judges can't handle it and they fold.

[00:52:47] A lot of the J6 cases that I've covered are on hold until after the election.

[00:52:51] So the more publicity, the better.

[00:52:53] I agree.

[00:52:53] And it's going to take people like you and me on the front line of the real media telling the truth about what's about to happen in November.

[00:53:01] And I'll use the Ammon Bundy case to make the point.

[00:53:03] You know, Ammon Bundy, they tried to bring him up on a gazillion charges under the sun.

[00:53:07] In the first charges in Oregon, he basically he won.

[00:53:12] The jury said not guilty.

[00:53:13] And then Marcus Munford, the attorney, tried to get his client Ammon Bundy free.

[00:53:17] And they tased the attorney literally in court.

[00:53:20] Then they extradited Ammon Bundy to Nevada.

[00:53:22] And then Ammon Bundy started to expose the judge and the criminal deep state and the FBI so much so it was getting too much on the record they didn't want on the record.

[00:53:29] So they literally said, hey, due to too much corruption by the government, we've got to throw the trial.

[00:53:33] And they let Ammon walk free.

[00:53:34] But they only let Ammon walk free because they didn't want more and more and more evidence to come out.

[00:53:37] And he was putting too much on the docket and they didn't want any part of it.

[00:53:40] So they dismissed the whole thing.

[00:53:41] That's the example we need to follow.

[00:53:43] Yes.

[00:53:43] And now Ryan Bundy is suing for land use issues.

[00:53:47] And one of the men that was suing with them, my company, America Happens, just made a documentary about this.

[00:53:52] Where's the documentary?

[00:53:53] It's on AmericaHappens.com and America Happens on Rumble.

[00:53:58] There's a documentary about a major lawsuit that the Bundy family is involved in.

[00:54:03] And one of the men involved in it actually died at the end of August.

[00:54:07] What's his name?

[00:54:08] Mysteriously.

[00:54:09] His name is Littleton.

[00:54:10] All right.

[00:54:11] Yeah.

[00:54:11] I'll keep you guys updated.

[00:54:12] Our prayers are with this family.

[00:54:13] Keep us updated on it as well.

[00:54:15] Ladies and gentlemen, you can learn more at AmericaHappens.com.