Radio Show Hour 1 – 12/10/2024

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening

[00:00:19] to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:00:23] All right.

[00:00:25] Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.

[00:00:27] Sam Bushman live on your radio.

[00:00:29] Hard-hitting news the network refused to use, no doubt starts now.

[00:00:33] This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for December the 10th in the year of our

[00:00:38] Lord, 2024.

[00:00:39] 2024, the goal always to protect life, liberty, and property, to promote God, family, and

[00:00:44] country.

[00:00:44] And the news on your radio, in the traditions of our founding fathers, using the supreme

[00:00:48] law of the land, the constitution for the United States of America as our guide.

[00:00:52] The good Sheriff Richard Maxx with me.

[00:00:54] He's the founder and president of the Constitutional Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association.

[00:00:58] Welcome back, Sheriff.

[00:01:01] Well, thank you, Sam.

[00:01:01] It's great to be with you.

[00:01:03] It's just beautiful Tuesday morning.

[00:01:05] Man.

[00:01:07] Yeah, it's beautiful in Arizona.

[00:01:08] You got about four months where it's just incredible.

[00:01:11] Yeah.

[00:01:12] Then it gets all hotter than Hades again.

[00:01:14] All right.

[00:01:15] Welcome, Sheriff.

[00:01:16] We sure appreciate you.

[00:01:17] And we've got an incredible guest today, Mr. Steve Friend.

[00:01:20] He's an FBI whistleblower, ladies and gentlemen, who exposed the FBI for its handling of the

[00:01:28] investigations into January the 6th.

[00:01:30] Yeah.

[00:01:32] Whistleblower says, hey, FBI manipulated January the 6th cases to make domestic terrorism appear

[00:01:39] more widespread than it really is.

[00:01:42] Oh, boy, ladies and gentlemen, is that a hot one?

[00:01:45] The FBI in the news.

[00:01:47] You got January 6th in the news.

[00:01:49] Donald Trump on Sunday said, hey, I'm going to be pardoning those folks first day.

[00:01:53] And now FBI Director Ray under fire.

[00:01:56] He's probably going to resign so that Trump can't fire him is kind of the idea.

[00:02:00] Wow.

[00:02:01] You don't get the you're fired anymore.

[00:02:03] That's sad.

[00:02:04] People quit before you can even tell them they're fired these days.

[00:02:07] It's crazy.

[00:02:07] Anyway, without further ado, welcome, Steve Friend, to the broadcast, sir.

[00:02:12] Thanks for having me.

[00:02:12] Good morning.

[00:02:13] Now, I know you've been in the FBI.

[00:02:15] You've been in all kinds of positions for quite some time in government.

[00:02:21] How did all of a sudden this just start happening?

[00:02:24] Was there a seat change somewhere?

[00:02:26] What?

[00:02:26] You were fine, right?

[00:02:28] I was fine.

[00:02:29] I was an exemplary employee.

[00:02:31] I actually got an award for my performance about six weeks before my entire ordeal started

[00:02:36] with them before I made my protected disclosure and then was summarily suspended indefinitely

[00:02:42] forever, unpaid, about a month after that.

[00:02:45] So it was a precipitous fall from grace.

[00:02:47] But I think writ large, the agency, you can really identify 9-11 as being a watershed moment

[00:02:56] when really it turned the focus away from being the cops, the nation's federal police force,

[00:03:04] to the national security force.

[00:03:05] And then because it's a bureaucracy, it evolved the mission because there really wasn't enough

[00:03:11] for it to do.

[00:03:12] And that's when they started changing in the message from we're going after real legitimate

[00:03:17] terrorists to homegrown violent extremists.

[00:03:21] And then eventually that evolved into domestic violent extremists.

[00:03:24] And now it's the anti-government, anti-authority violent extremists.

[00:03:28] So they keep redefining what they're going after.

[00:03:30] So bureaucratically, success is in growth.

[00:03:33] They are never really interested in ending the legitimate threat because that would be

[00:03:39] an end of the agency entirely.

[00:03:41] The problem, though, is you combine bureaucratic growth with the politicization that we're seeing.

[00:03:45] So take that last term, the anti-government, anti-authority violent extremist.

[00:03:49] Well, that's an agave is defined by the FBI as someone with a perception of government overreach

[00:03:56] or negligence.

[00:03:56] That's all that's required for them to open an assessment on you, which is essentially

[00:04:00] an investigation, national security.

[00:04:03] And the FBI is now in the business of pre-crime.

[00:04:05] They're looking at threats.

[00:04:06] And they will inevitably find people who are vulnerable to suggestion and use informants

[00:04:12] and undercovers to get people who are not predisposed to commit to doing anything on their

[00:04:17] own.

[00:04:17] But they'll poke and prod and eventually get them to do it so that they can get their

[00:04:20] headline of their big arrest.

[00:04:22] Sheriff Mack, you went to the FBI Academy.

[00:04:26] Is that what they taught you?

[00:04:31] No, actually, the FBI, if they did one thing, they do training pretty good.

[00:04:36] And the FBI Academy is pretty good, except their constitutional law class, which I was very

[00:04:42] excited about taking because it just did normal law school stuff.

[00:04:47] It just did case law and didn't really get into the basics of the Constitution.

[00:04:51] In fact, the instructor said we're not we're going to bypass the basics in order to get into

[00:04:57] the more pertinent case law studies.

[00:04:59] And really, it's difficult to catch on to the principles involved if you ignore the principles.

[00:05:07] And so that's what happened.

[00:05:08] But otherwise, it was a it was a very good school.

[00:05:11] I loved it.

[00:05:13] And it was great to have my father there because he retired from the Bureau in 1975.

[00:05:18] And he got to go to my graduation ceremony with my mother.

[00:05:22] And that was all pretty neat.

[00:05:24] I was sheriff at the time, obviously, but they invite people from all over the country who

[00:05:29] are law enforcement professionals to go to these.

[00:05:32] I was lucky because my cousin was deputy director at the FBI at the time, and he got me in at

[00:05:39] the most opportune time for me politically so I could not be leaving at campaign time.

[00:05:46] And it worked out very well.

[00:05:49] I loved it.

[00:05:49] I love that.

[00:05:50] But and I grew up.

[00:05:52] I already told Steve this last week when we were speaking.

[00:05:57] I grew up in the FBI.

[00:05:59] My father was an FBI agent for about 30 years.

[00:06:03] It was part of our lives.

[00:06:04] It was part of my upbringing.

[00:06:07] I love J. Edgar Hoover, you know, because my dad did.

[00:06:11] And I even did a book report about J. Edgar Hoover's book on communism.

[00:06:17] And J. Edgar Hoover did a few good things.

[00:06:19] But the more I learned about him when I got to college and when I started in my police career,

[00:06:24] started studying and really looking things, looking at things, J. Edgar Hoover did a lot

[00:06:29] of the wrong things, too.

[00:06:31] And obviously, one thing I really liked, it might have been illegal, but one thing I really

[00:06:35] liked that he did is that he kept dossiers and tabs on politicians, especially those with

[00:06:42] leftist, socialist and communist leanings.

[00:06:46] He was an avid fighter against communism.

[00:06:50] So he wouldn't fit in today either at all with that.

[00:06:53] But he did some underhanded things going after Martin Luther King and probably illegal things

[00:07:02] that he did to go after Martin Luther King.

[00:07:05] And Martin Luther King's family accused the FBI of being part of the reason their dad was

[00:07:10] assassinated.

[00:07:11] Yeah, I sure hope Donald releases all those files, too, by the way.

[00:07:15] So, Steve, friend, you've got a sea change that's happened here.

[00:07:20] And they turned against you.

[00:07:22] They drummed you out without pay.

[00:07:23] They were dishonest and played games.

[00:07:26] We'll get into that in just a second.

[00:07:28] But before we do, I kind of want to understand, did any of your friends in the FBI stick with

[00:07:31] you?

[00:07:32] I mean, knowing that you got an award six weeks earlier, knowing that you had been virtually

[00:07:35] a stellar agent rising through the ranks and everything else, did any of your friends

[00:07:40] stick with you in this thing?

[00:07:43] Well, I've had a few stay in touch in the last 26 and a half months.

[00:07:47] But by and large, no.

[00:07:48] I mean, people who I perceive to be my friends, my colleagues, my co-workers.

[00:07:51] There's a I've sort of cited hoping to have that Captain America endgame moment where you

[00:07:57] hear on your left and they're there to support you and do the right thing in the right way

[00:08:01] at the right time for the right reasons and follow the training that we all got, where

[00:08:05] we all went to the Holocaust Memorial.

[00:08:06] We all went to the MLK Memorial and we learned that it's actually your job to throw the flag

[00:08:11] if you believe the agency is off the rails.

[00:08:13] And the way that they manipulated the January 6th cases is definitely one.

[00:08:16] The way that they're using some aggressive tactics to bring people into custody is another

[00:08:21] one that I was concerned about.

[00:08:23] I mean, they were sending a SWAT team to arrest someone who had pledged to be cooperative

[00:08:26] with them when he'd been interviewed and he hadn't been interviewed for 18 months.

[00:08:30] So that seems like sort of a setup for the next Ruby Ridge situation.

[00:08:33] But no, they basically severed ties.

[00:08:36] And I think that's by design from the FBI.

[00:08:37] They want to chill anybody's willingness to come forward, even with a reasonable concern

[00:08:43] of waste for fraud, abuse or risk of public safety, violation of the law, because the

[00:08:47] worst sin you can commit in the FBI is to make the FBI look bad.

[00:08:51] Never embarrass the FBI.

[00:08:53] I mean, even in my meetings with executives who I wouldn't count my friends, but at least

[00:08:57] I hope that they were vetted as men of integrity, I said, look, I have a concern about what's

[00:09:02] going on.

[00:09:02] I think it's a violation of my oath.

[00:09:04] It's definitely a violation of the training that I received.

[00:09:06] And they said, yes, I had training and I had an oath and I had a responsibility to come

[00:09:09] forward.

[00:09:09] But my true duty was not to the Constitution.

[00:09:12] It was to the FBI.

[00:09:13] And I should set an example for my children and just follow orders.

[00:09:17] Now, aren't those guys in that case then, if you're not, if you swear an oath to the

[00:09:21] Constitution and then at the end you're told your allegiance is to this thug, you know,

[00:09:26] organization, not to the Constitution.

[00:09:28] I mean, shouldn't these people be impeached and tried for treason?

[00:09:31] What the heck's going on?

[00:09:33] I think that if you swear an oath and you're vetted as a person of integrity and you are

[00:09:37] in a position of public trust, there's enormous responsibility and there's a lot of

[00:09:41] liability attached to that, particularly if you abuse that, even if it's for your own

[00:09:45] personal enrichment, even if you're just keeping your head down because you want to make it

[00:09:49] to retirement, that's your personal enrichment.

[00:09:51] The fact that you justify what's going on by putting innocent people into cages or violating

[00:09:57] their rights, even if they are violators of the law.

[00:10:02] The problem is we've gotten away from what the true prime directive of law enforcement

[00:10:06] is supposed to be at the FBI.

[00:10:09] The prime directive is to follow the process.

[00:10:11] You gather the facts and you present them.

[00:10:13] And then the jury has its say.

[00:10:16] If the facts do not support a conviction, then the facts don't do it.

[00:10:20] That's not an imp...

[00:10:21] It doesn't impugn your abilities as an investigator at that point.

[00:10:24] The facts weren't there.

[00:10:25] Your victory was actually in following the process.

[00:10:27] You maybe exonerated someone who was wrongfully accused.

[00:10:30] But now the outcome is the prime directive of the FBI, which is why they're cutting corners,

[00:10:35] which is why they're leaning heavily on to making the process the punishment.

[00:10:39] I mean, you'd use the tactics.

[00:10:41] You often choose the outcome.

[00:10:42] Sending a SWAT team to arrest an 80-year-old man in Utah for threats that he made, not defending

[00:10:47] the threats, that's choosing the likelier outcome that it's going to end violently.

[00:10:52] And the FBI sees itself as this teeth on the attack top of a politicized agency.

[00:10:56] So anybody who is in that position right now has been weighed, measured, and found wanting.

[00:11:00] The one silver lining that we have now is this is a twice-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

[00:11:04] They had the first opportunity when I came forward and several others, who now I count

[00:11:10] my friends, came forward and expressed our concerns.

[00:11:13] And they sat idly by and they justified it.

[00:11:15] They punked out.

[00:11:16] But now with the new incoming Trump administration, with the Kash Patel at the director's slot,

[00:11:22] I think that there is a twice-in-a-lifetime opportunity to actually come on board with

[00:11:26] the cleanup process that's going on.

[00:11:28] It's a renovation, but it's going to look a lot like a demolition to the people who are

[00:11:32] putting the institution over the Constitution.

[00:11:34] Sheriff Mack?

[00:11:35] So one of the things I was leading to is I really want to know what were your feelings

[00:11:42] then about J. Edgar Hoover?

[00:11:44] Obviously, he started the FBI.

[00:11:46] He was the FBI.

[00:11:48] Was he a good man, bad man in between?

[00:11:51] What is your impression of him?

[00:11:52] And did he help or hurt the FBI?

[00:11:56] Well, before I offer my opinion on him, I think it's important that no one in the FBI

[00:12:00] talks about J. Edgar Hoover anymore.

[00:12:02] So I think that's one concern.

[00:12:04] As much as they talk about being this historical agency that has over 100 years of existence,

[00:12:09] which is also not true, they do not talk about him.

[00:12:12] I think that he definitely has his foibles.

[00:12:14] But I also think that there's a strong case to be made that it came from his mission set

[00:12:20] as it first was outlined.

[00:12:21] And that was to root out communists within the United States government.

[00:12:24] I think that J. Edgar Hoover's politics were not left or right.

[00:12:28] They were about the Bureau.

[00:12:29] He was establishing this agency.

[00:12:31] And as a result of that, he engaged in activities that were not in keeping with what we would

[00:12:35] expect from a premier law enforcement agency that's about the process and about upholding

[00:12:39] the Constitution.

[00:12:40] So a mixed bag on him.

[00:12:42] But I think you can also make the case that it came from a place where he did, in fact,

[00:12:47] love the country.

[00:12:47] Whereas the people who have been at the helm, particularly the last three directors, you

[00:12:52] can't make that case at all.

[00:12:53] You go back to James Comey, who as much as he wanted to label himself as being above reproach

[00:12:58] and nonpartisan, he, in fact, had surrounded himself with people who were on the inside

[00:13:02] of the FBI, called themselves the College of Cardinals.

[00:13:05] And James Comey sent undercover agents into the Trump campaign in 2016.

[00:13:11] And it was a honeypot.

[00:13:12] They were encouraged to engage in sexual activities with members of the campaign to just dig up dirt.

[00:13:17] And then subsequently, James Comey sent agents over to entrap Mike Flynn.

[00:13:22] And then he leaked the existence of the Steele dossier so that they could get a hook to report

[00:13:26] on the media and then have it laundered back into the FBI.

[00:13:29] Now, he was fired and Andy McCabe took over.

[00:13:32] Andy McCabe, who actually oversaw the Crossfire Hurricane investigation and then lied to federal

[00:13:36] investigators about it and leaked to the media.

[00:13:38] But he was a good and faithful servant.

[00:13:40] So when the Biden administration came back in, he was reinstated and got all of his back pay

[00:13:45] and somewhere in the area of about a million dollars.

[00:13:47] Now we have Christopher Wray, despite being appointed by a Republican president, oversaw

[00:13:52] the censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story from social media.

[00:13:56] When the FBI actually had the laptop in its possession, the letter that came out from the

[00:14:00] intelligence community, the 51 intelligence officials who said that that had all the hallmarks

[00:14:05] of Russian disinformation.

[00:14:06] Christopher Wray knew that was fake and still oversaw that.

[00:14:08] And then has also seen how the FBI is targeting pro-lifers and sending 89 year old concentration

[00:14:14] camp survivors to federal prison because they were praying outside of an abortion clinic.

[00:14:18] It's hardly an apolitical organization at this time.

[00:14:21] You could give me J. Edgar Hoover now far, far, far more than Christopher Wray.

[00:14:27] Yeah.

[00:14:27] So let me ask you this, though.

[00:14:29] Is there a way to clean this up, though?

[00:14:31] Because my opinion is there's so few federal crimes and they've failed at their mission.

[00:14:35] I mean, look, we didn't get communists out of the United States government.

[00:14:38] It's full of communists now.

[00:14:40] I hate to tell you from Congress all the way through.

[00:14:42] And so they failed at their mission.

[00:14:44] Should we even keep the FBI at all?

[00:14:45] And if so, what should they do?

[00:14:48] If I had my preferences, I would shatter it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the

[00:14:52] wind.

[00:14:52] I think the one individual I would give the college try to is Kash Patel because we can

[00:14:57] possibly reconstitute it in a way that is objectively good.

[00:15:00] And that has to start with some significant changes right off the bat.

[00:15:04] They have to get rid of their quota system, which they have called IPM, Integrated Program

[00:15:08] Management, which dictates the number of cases that they have to open and arrests that

[00:15:12] they have to get and tools that they have to use.

[00:15:15] Executive Management's compensation packages.

[00:15:17] So they get $50,000 bonuses because their subordinates arrest the right number of people.

[00:15:21] We have to take away the intelligence capabilities from the FBI.

[00:15:25] It's a secret police force now that's just gathering intelligence on Americans just for

[00:15:29] intelligence sake.

[00:15:30] We have to do away with the DEI hiring the 30 by 30 initiatives that are bringing about

[00:15:36] cultural Marxism.

[00:15:37] And then we also need to think more outside the box about the way that federal law enforcement

[00:15:41] is supposed to be.

[00:15:42] It's supposed to be a support system for local law enforcement who might not have the resources

[00:15:47] and the capabilities and the training.

[00:15:50] So why not consider...

[00:15:51] Or across jurisdictions, right?

[00:15:52] Well, and why not consider something like take away the guns from the FBI?

[00:15:56] Make it an unarmed Bureau of Investigation and then deputize in great to a greater extent,

[00:16:02] which they already do, but bring it up.

[00:16:03] Deputize more local sheriff's officers and police officers and state, tribal, and give

[00:16:10] them the ability and discretion to bring crimes to not just their local prosecutor, but to a

[00:16:15] United States attorney.

[00:16:16] And the FBI can be there to support them in that.

[00:16:19] And it would really...

[00:16:20] So imagine an unarmed, coordinative team across jurisdictional boundaries, right?

[00:16:24] That's sort of what I'm laying out.

[00:16:26] And on top of that, it would also be answerable to a sheriff, a sheriff who knows the usual

[00:16:32] suspects, knows what the crimes are afflicting his community.

[00:16:34] And he is being directed by his constituents to address those because if he doesn't, he'll

[00:16:39] lose his job.

[00:16:40] And now the FBI, because of its quota system, is not incentivized to bring crime down.

[00:16:44] They want to bring crime up, even if they have to do it artificially like they did with

[00:16:47] January 6th, where they opened a separate case for every single person and then opened

[00:16:52] them in the area where the person lived to create a false illusion that there were thousands

[00:16:55] of domestic terrorists around the country when it was just mostly Americans who walked through

[00:17:00] the Capitol with the permission of the Capitol Police.

[00:17:02] Sheriff Mack, you're ready to sit down with Cash Patel to put this together, right?

[00:17:07] I would love to.

[00:17:08] Yeah, I would help.

[00:17:09] But I think Steve would be even better.

[00:17:13] He's got more recent experience with it.

[00:17:16] But as far as working and having a program with the sheriffs, yeah, I would love to do

[00:17:22] that.

[00:17:22] He's absolutely correct that that needs to happen.

[00:17:25] And when the FBI started, they didn't carry guns back in the day.

[00:17:30] So I would love to see all of that happen.

[00:17:33] If they were completely abolished and then Cash Patel started over with an unarmed FBI and

[00:17:41] that they worked on national intelligence and the like, that would be great.

[00:17:47] Another question I had, Steve, though, about January 6th.

[00:17:50] I know they fabricated evidence and really overreacted to people just standing outside the Capitol.

[00:18:00] Those who went in still did nothing wrong.

[00:18:05] Many of them were the door was open to him to go in.

[00:18:11] Dr. Gold got 60 days in prison because she walked into an open door and literally gave her speech,

[00:18:20] gave a speech.

[00:18:21] And a Capitol police officer was standing next to her, never told her to leave.

[00:18:27] And so this was the type of crimes that we got from them.

[00:18:30] First of all, another one that we didn't bring up was Roger Stone's arrest.

[00:18:36] And he was at home and they could have just called him and told him to come in.

[00:18:41] But they took 26 FBI agents and their SWAT team.

[00:18:45] Tipped off the media so they'd be there to make a clown show out of it the whole bit.

[00:18:49] Yeah, exactly.

[00:18:50] But one of the things that I have maintained that the FBI broke the law is that they did not extradite one single January 6th arrestee.

[00:19:01] Am I wrong?

[00:19:03] Don't they have to go along with extradition just like everybody else?

[00:19:08] Well, the interesting thing that they do with January 6th, when I say interesting, I mean nefarious,

[00:19:13] is that they opened the cases where the person lived, but they still charged them criminally within the District of Columbia.

[00:19:20] So when it came time to make the arrest, the agents that were, let's say, in my office in Daytona Beach, Florida,

[00:19:26] in the Jacksonville Division, we would be detailed to make that arrest, even though we were the case agents.

[00:19:32] It was effectively taking over.

[00:19:35] But the crime didn't happen in Daytona Beach or Florida.

[00:19:37] Correct.

[00:19:38] But you could be arrested in Daytona Beach for a crime you committed in Washington, D.C.

[00:19:43] The warrant would be acquired.

[00:19:45] The affiant on that arrest warrant would be in Washington, D.C.

[00:19:49] We would get the search warrants in the Middle District of Florida.

[00:19:53] So that's how it worked.

[00:19:54] But they're not getting the fair trial.

[00:19:57] Does that bypass the constitutional requirement for extradition?

[00:20:02] No, it doesn't because you have the crime occurs in that particular district that you would need to bring them to that district eventually.

[00:20:13] Now, you would arrest them outside of the district.

[00:20:15] They would have to have their hearing in the forthwith in the accompanying or nearby in front of the nearby registry.

[00:20:23] They would only have authority to do this, though, if the sheriff cooperated.

[00:20:26] If the sheriff said, no, get out of here, they would be forced to do extradition or stop, right?

[00:20:31] Well, you could throw up some speed bumps.

[00:20:32] I mean, there is a supremacy clause issue that the sheriff doesn't have to participate in it.

[00:20:38] And there are some mechanisms that you could use.

[00:20:41] But ultimately, a federal crime is committed.

[00:20:45] The federal government can charge it and can arrest the person.

[00:20:49] But what I've been trying to push, even where I live in Florida, because there are some leverage points that states can use and sheriffs can use.

[00:20:55] And this is, again, thinking outside the box.

[00:20:58] Because the FBI doesn't have enough agents to properly fulfill its mission set, it does deputize local sheriff's office deputies and police officers as task force officers.

[00:21:08] Well, there could be a state law that's passed that says if the sheriff is sending his people over to become task force officers, they're still being paid by the constituents within the county.

[00:21:17] They're still answerable to him.

[00:21:19] He has supervising responsibility.

[00:21:20] But if they get that security clearance from the FBI, then they can't actually brief the sheriff on what they're working on because he doesn't have a need to know.

[00:21:28] They've disempowered that chief law enforcement official for that particular county.

[00:21:31] So the state law that could be passed was if the sheriff sends people, the FBI is going to have to read him in.

[00:21:36] And if the FBI is unwilling to do that, well, I guess the sheriff can't send his people.

[00:21:40] And that would be a huge hit for some personnel to the FBI, subject matter expertise.

[00:21:44] And I think that they would sort of force their hand because if they're unwilling to let the sheriff know what's going on in his particular county, then I have to question what they're actually doing in that county.

[00:21:54] Well, I think he should arrest them because if he doesn't know what's going on in his jurisdiction, hey, as far as I know, he can tell they're committing crimes, right?

[00:22:02] No, I wouldn't want him to.

[00:22:03] I wouldn't want to arrest him.

[00:22:04] I just want him to leave.

[00:22:05] But this policy that we've been all for for a long time, Sam and I both, is that they should check, that the sheriff should demand and require that they check with him before they come in, whatever they're doing.

[00:22:18] That's just a check and balance system that helps everyone.

[00:22:22] It keeps them safe and it keeps the public safe.

[00:22:25] So, Steve, we're about out of time.

[00:22:26] I know you've got to leave right at 30.

[00:22:28] But where does your case stand then and what's happening with you then?

[00:22:31] Are you expecting a pardon?

[00:22:33] Do you need a pardon?

[00:22:34] What give me kind of the status for you?

[00:22:36] Well, I'm not criminally charged.

[00:22:38] I know I'm being criminally investigated.

[00:22:39] So a pardon wouldn't be a bad thing.

[00:22:41] But I think that the status that I have is being reinstated, having my security clearance reinstated would be helpful.

[00:22:47] I'm basically toxic at this point.

[00:22:48] I've been denied even employment as a rookie deputy because of what the FBI did to me.

[00:22:54] And then I have a relationship with Cash Patel's circle and I'd be happy to give him any advice, even if that's on the outside.

[00:23:01] But to me, ultimately, professionally getting my security clearance and also getting my training documents because the FBI has withheld those as well.

[00:23:08] So I can hopefully get back into something I do.

[00:23:10] I've been in law enforcement for 15 years and that's been my entire professional career.

[00:23:16] Sheriff, you got a final question for him?

[00:23:18] I would really like you to see my Supreme Court case.

[00:23:21] I think it would clear up some of these things that we were talking about because it really focuses on local sovereignty.

[00:23:29] And the case talks about dual sovereignty and that the federal government is no more above us than we are above them in our proper sphere of authority.

[00:23:39] And that's the problem.

[00:23:40] I don't think Washington, D.C. has ever worried or cared about the proper sphere of authority that they do have and that they don't have.

[00:23:49] And so I need to talk to you about that soon and in the near future.

[00:23:53] And thank you so much for all that you've brought to us today.

[00:23:58] You got a website, Steve?

[00:24:00] No, but people can follow me on social media at realstevefriend is the X account.

[00:24:05] And the book is called True Blue, and you can find that on Amazon by Stephen Friend.

[00:24:09] True Blue, Stephen Friend.

[00:24:11] There you go.

[00:24:11] Thank you so much, sir.

[00:24:12] We'll have you back soon.

[00:24:13] Our prayers are that you get a pardon and that you get all your documents and we can move people like you along, thinking outside the box for the proper role of the constitutional, proper role of government.

[00:24:24] Thank you, Steve Friend.

[00:24:25] Sheriff Mack, stay there.

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[00:30:42] Steve Friend was with us last segment.

[00:30:45] He wrote a book called True Blue, basically highlighting his career, 10 years in law enforcement

[00:30:52] with the FBI, and then all of a sudden, hey, he gets awards.

[00:30:55] He's incredible, doing great, moving through the ranks.

[00:30:58] And all of a sudden, he just realizes that the FBI is literally fraudulently taking all these actions against the citizenry.

[00:31:07] And he highlights this idea that instead of, they normally just take one big case and say, hey, you were all at the Capitol.

[00:31:13] It's one big case.

[00:31:15] A bunch of defendants will have to be there.

[00:31:18] But he said they made every case separate.

[00:31:20] So now they're going into the jurisdictions, crossing these lines of jurisdiction, not doing extradition or any of these kind of things.

[00:31:31] Their whole goal, Sheriff Mack, in my opinion, was to breach the jurisdictional boundaries that we bring up, saying, hey, the constitutional sheriff is responsible for his jurisdiction.

[00:31:42] And your court case is at the heart of this very violation by the FBI.

[00:31:46] Your thoughts?

[00:31:48] Yeah, Sam.

[00:31:49] That was one thing I was thinking about and just really amazed me.

[00:31:59] And so I turned right to the provision that I was talking to him about.

[00:32:05] And it's on page eight in the little booklet that every American should have in their home, in their pocket, in their car and be passing out.

[00:32:13] This is page eight in my booklet.

[00:32:17] I'm not sure what page it is on the actual ruling.

[00:32:20] But what I did in this booklet, as you know, and I want everybody else listening to know, is that I studied the case for days.

[00:32:27] And I put all the most important parts, maybe not all of them, but the ones that were most important to me that just really stuck out to me and that were just absolutely mind-blowing.

[00:32:41] Just earth-shattering decisions, especially when you compare it to mainstream politics and corruption in Washington, D.C.

[00:32:51] So, of course, he's quoting the Founding Fathers, and he's quoting Federalists, and this is Federalist number 39 that Scalia quotes in the Mack Prince case.

[00:33:01] As Madison expressed it, quote,

[00:33:03] The local or municipal, so we're talking county and city, the local and municipal authorities form distinct and independent portions of the supremacy.

[00:33:19] Yeah, that's huge.

[00:33:21] Saying that cities and counties and states have independent and distinct portions of the supremacy.

[00:33:32] It's independent.

[00:33:33] That means no one else can interfere with it.

[00:33:37] No more subject within their respective spheres to the general authority or to the federal government, to the general authority, then the general authority is subject to them.

[00:33:50] And who's the them?

[00:33:51] Cities, counties, school boards, and states within its own sphere.

[00:33:59] And then it says Federalist number 39 at page 245.

[00:34:04] So that paragraph, Sam, is about as powerful as you can get in any Supreme Court decision in the history of our country.

[00:34:15] And so then you have to define, Sam, you have to define the sphere of authority for the states and counties and cities and school boards.

[00:34:27] Those are all political subdivisions that he references again later in the order of the court.

[00:34:32] So where do we define the authority of the federal government, Sam?

[00:34:37] I mean, that's pretty simple.

[00:34:39] It's the Constitution.

[00:34:41] So I almost – I didn't want to take too much time going when he was talking because I really loved what he was saying.

[00:34:48] And I absolutely – totally admire Steve Friend.

[00:34:53] I mean, what he's done, it was so brave.

[00:34:56] And there's so many other, Sam.

[00:34:58] Good people in the FBI that you would normally – every Sunday they're going to church, and they really are good family men and women.

[00:35:09] And they are good people, but they don't know the Constitution.

[00:35:16] They don't care about it either.

[00:35:17] And one other thing that really alarmed me, I did not know that the FBI had quotas.

[00:35:24] That is absolutely an abomination.

[00:35:30] We want the FBI not to be busy.

[00:35:33] We want law enforcement not to be busy.

[00:35:35] We want them just to walk around neighborhoods, and we're not arresting people all the time.

[00:35:41] They have a goal, and they have a rule to arrest people.

[00:35:47] And hold on.

[00:35:48] Not only that, they have a quota, and if the quota is fulfilled, then they get bonuses, according to Steve.

[00:35:56] They get money for the more arrests they create.

[00:36:00] Yeah, the IRS used to do that, and they stopped it supposedly, but I don't think they ever did.

[00:36:04] But anyway, they were accused of all that.

[00:36:06] But instead of the IRS not doing it, the FBI picks it up and starts doing it.

[00:36:12] Sam, this is so corrupt.

[00:36:14] It is just so out of line.

[00:36:17] And so the Supreme Court case and having to look at what Scalia says here.

[00:36:26] Scalia says that Congress was not conferred of all governmental powers, but only discreet enumerated ones.

[00:36:35] So I went through the Constitution, and I wanted to enumerate the powers that were delegated to them regarding law enforcement.

[00:36:43] So I know I've told you this before, but it bears repeating.

[00:36:49] They have five law enforcement powers.

[00:36:53] And some people say that the federal government has no law enforcement powers.

[00:36:58] I don't agree with that at all.

[00:36:59] I mean, I can read the Constitution and see clearly that they do.

[00:37:03] One of them is to protect our borders from invasion.

[00:37:06] That's a law enforcement authority.

[00:37:08] It's illegal to cross our borders without permission.

[00:37:13] That's a crime.

[00:37:14] That's a law enforcement power that they have.

[00:37:17] So the other one, of course, the first one is treason.

[00:37:21] The federal government has the authority to investigate treason.

[00:37:24] Do the states and counties?

[00:37:26] Sure, they can investigate treason too.

[00:37:28] No problem.

[00:37:30] Two, counterfeiting.

[00:37:31] I don't see how that becomes a prerogative, an investigative power of the states.

[00:37:37] I really don't.

[00:37:38] Because the federal government is assigned to coin the money and regulate the value thereof.

[00:37:44] Even though they turned it over to the Federal Reserve and private bankers, that's also one of the problems that – one of the corrupt things that the federal government has done.

[00:37:56] Well, and I hope Cash Patel can ferret that out and say, hey, Donald Trump, president-elect, you need to not have this clown, the leader of the Federal Reserve, whispering in your ear.

[00:38:08] And you've got to get Jamie Dimon the leader of –

[00:38:10] If you want to talk about firing somebody, abolish the entire Federal Reserve and make a committee that's in charge of our money, not some private banking group.

[00:38:21] Well, you already got the Treasury Department.

[00:38:23] They can do that just fine.

[00:38:27] Yeah.

[00:38:29] Yeah, if they had some strong oversight, I guess, by Congress.

[00:38:33] But I don't know.

[00:38:34] Maybe we could abolish the Department of Treasury.

[00:38:38] I know that one's been there a long time.

[00:38:39] Maybe we need to keep part of that.

[00:38:42] All of it needs to be revamped.

[00:38:43] All of it needs to be cut.

[00:38:45] There's no question about that, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:38:47] But Steve Friend, I believe, is an American hero standing up for what he believes in.

[00:38:53] Yeah, he is.

[00:38:53] I don't know why they're criminally investigating him.

[00:38:55] That needs to stop immediately.

[00:38:58] That's what the FBI does.

[00:39:00] Well, they need to stop because they're out of control.

[00:39:04] And they're literally wreaking havoc on the citizens of America.

[00:39:07] Headline says this, for immediate release, CSPOA applauds selection of Kash Patel for FBI director.

[00:39:19] Then it goes on and says Sheriff Richard Mack and Sam Bushman have publicly endorsed President Donald Trump elect in his nomination of Kash Patel to head the FBI.

[00:39:34] This, I think, is a critical endorsement.

[00:39:37] I think Kash is probably one of the only few that's on the, I don't know what you want to say, on the deck to fulfill this position that I have actually some confidence that might get the job done.

[00:39:48] Sheriff?

[00:39:49] Yeah.

[00:39:50] Yeah.

[00:39:50] Actually, the more I hear about him, the more I look into that issue and look at who he is and look at his experience.

[00:40:01] He's a butt kicker, Sam.

[00:40:03] Yeah, he is.

[00:40:03] And that's why I say there might be some other people that we would pick, but they're not really on the docket for consideration.

[00:40:09] So we've got to think about that.

[00:40:11] I mean, I'd recommend Richard Mack to lead the FBI, but see, you're not on the docket to do so.

[00:40:15] But Kash Patel is.

[00:40:16] And he's the only one that I know that actually has the credentials.

[00:40:19] I mean, even the people that are scared of him can't argue his credentials and can't argue that.

[00:40:24] Okay, so they're going to have a tough time stopping Kash Patel.

[00:40:27] And I'm convinced he's the only one right now that could fulfill this position and give us a chance to make this change.

[00:40:33] Go ahead and skip the break.

[00:40:35] The reason I say a chance to make this change is, look, it's the deep state we're dealing with here, right?

[00:40:39] So I'm not saying – go ahead and skip the break.

[00:40:43] I'm not saying I question Kash Patel's capabilities.

[00:40:46] I'm merely saying the deep state is pretty brutal.

[00:40:49] Trump found that out.

[00:40:50] And so, you know, we all have a road to hoe when it comes to dealing with that is my only point.

[00:40:56] Yeah, and I've been kind of amused.

[00:40:59] You know how I feel about the Democrat Party and politics in general and Republican versus Democrat thing.

[00:41:06] To me, it's just entertainment.

[00:41:08] It provides no benefit to the American people usually, but especially the Democrats.

[00:41:13] So what are the Democrats crying about?

[00:41:16] You're going to stop all the funding for everything.

[00:41:19] How could you get rid of the Department of Education?

[00:41:21] You want our kids dumbed down?

[00:41:22] We need our kids.

[00:41:24] We didn't say we're going to stop education, you stupid idiot.

[00:41:29] Obviously, you're a result of public education because you can't listen to – we're in debt.

[00:41:36] We are in debt, and we spend too much money, and we're spending money we don't have.

[00:41:41] So try to get focused on that.

[00:41:44] We have to make some cuts.

[00:41:46] The education allotment for federal government does not exist.

[00:41:51] There is no delegated power to the federal government to control the education nationwide.

[00:41:59] So get over it, and the states are still going to do their education.

[00:42:04] And here's what I find funny about this, Sheriff.

[00:42:07] They complain that it's just going to be the end of the world if any cuts are made.

[00:42:12] But my question to them is, weren't they the same people that said it was going to be the end of the world,

[00:42:16] first go-round for Donald Trump if he got elected?

[00:42:18] The whole economy was going to go straight in the toilet, and everything was just going to be horrible.

[00:42:22] And then it turned out to be so awesome that when you compared Joe Biden's run to Trump's run,

[00:42:29] people just decided on that for Trump's second run and said,

[00:42:32] hey, I don't care who's what and what they claim.

[00:42:34] All I know is it was better before, and hopefully we can bring it back.

[00:42:38] And now they're basically trying to say the same thing and acting like it's going to be even worse.

[00:42:42] Oh, now he's the retribution man.

[00:42:43] He's going to go ahead and, in my response, is go ahead and what?

[00:42:47] Is he going to really convict and prosecute people that aren't criminals like Biden did?

[00:42:53] No.

[00:42:54] He's going to actually investigate and give people due process.

[00:42:57] They even said, hey, when you go after these people, are you going to tell the FBI director what to do?

[00:43:01] This is last Sunday on the clown show, mainstream, whatever you want to call these people that are losing credibility and listeners and viewers left and right.

[00:43:10] And he basically said, no, listen, I'm not going to tell Cash what to do at all.

[00:43:14] He knows what to do.

[00:43:15] Everybody realizes the problem here.

[00:43:16] They've literally created criminal activity, and we're going to clean it up.

[00:43:20] And people are scared of that?

[00:43:22] Why would you be scared of that, Sheriff?

[00:43:25] Well, there's nothing to be really afraid of.

[00:43:28] It's just that they cannot imagine giving up the reins of their power.

[00:43:36] And they're so addicted, the lust for power and control.

[00:43:42] Sam, the only reason that the IRS is there is because Republicans and Democrats want to keep that power and control over us.

[00:43:52] If they just shut that sucker down, that's the first thing Trump should do.

[00:43:56] They want to shut down the IRS.

[00:43:58] No, the first thing that should be shut down is funding for Planned Parenthood.

[00:44:03] That one's absolutely the first on my chopping block.

[00:44:09] And I actually heard just a few days ago Speaker Johnson say that it's on the list, that it's on their radar.

[00:44:16] Well, I sure hope so, because I couldn't agree more.

[00:44:20] And then right after that, to me, right after you get rid of Planned Parenthood.

[00:44:25] And Sam, right now, let me just add something to that.

[00:44:30] I'm not talking about right or wrong or bad or good.

[00:44:36] I'm not talking about are you pro-life or are you pro-choice, which pro-choice means you're pro-death.

[00:44:42] And I've heard you say that, and that's where I got it from.

[00:44:45] I'm not talking about pro-choice or pro-life.

[00:44:48] I'm not talking about that at all.

[00:44:50] I'm talking about appropriate constitutional expenditures and taking – literally stealing taxpayer dollars and giving that to a private NGO,

[00:45:01] non-government organization, and giving it to them without our permission and without any authorization.

[00:45:09] We're going to give it to them because we agree we think it's a great charity to give money to, yet it provides no governmental service whatsoever.

[00:45:21] And tax dollars cannot go to such a thing.

[00:45:26] And that's illegal.

[00:45:28] It's probably criminal.

[00:45:30] And so that needs to stop first because no taxpayer can be forced to pay money to a private organization like that.

[00:45:39] If somebody out there wants to donate to any organization, Brian Perryhood or any others, that's fine.

[00:45:47] Go ahead.

[00:45:47] That's not against the law.

[00:45:49] I believe what they're doing is, but that's not what we're talking about right now.

[00:45:53] We're talking about government expenditures and spending too much money on things they have no business doing in the first place.

[00:46:01] Well, I hope Vivek and Elan and Kash Patel and the crew can take care of business to get that done for sure.

[00:46:08] A couple of quick additions in the press release where we endorse Kash Patel and the CSPOA applauds the selection.

[00:46:16] I want to clarify that so people understand.

[00:46:18] The CSPOA does not endorse candidates.

[00:46:19] It doesn't because it's not a PAC.

[00:46:22] And they'll turn you into a PAC if you start endorsing candidates with your private corporation kind of a thing.

[00:46:27] And so Sam Bushman, hey, I endorse who I want to.

[00:46:31] Richard Mack is a person, endorses who he wants to.

[00:46:33] The CSPOA applauds the effort because the CSPOA has no partisan involvement.

[00:46:40] The CSPOA simply wants to see the proper role of constitutional government carried out.

[00:46:45] And we train those who are elected to do just that, Sheriff.

[00:46:50] Yeah, that's it.

[00:46:51] And, you know, it's about as close as we can come for a full-blown CSPOA endorsement.

[00:46:58] But it's not.

[00:46:59] You know, the organization did come out and we didn't pull the board or any, you know, of our sheriffs and other staff and state directors.

[00:47:08] We didn't do that.

[00:47:09] We just said it's Sam Bushman, who is the CEO of CSPOA, Sheriff Mack, the founder.

[00:47:15] And we agree with Trump on this choice.

[00:47:18] And Kash Patel is the butt kicker we need in there.

[00:47:22] And I hope he picks Steve Friend as a consultant.

[00:47:26] I hope he uses Mark Lamb.

[00:47:29] And I know that Mark Lamb would still be a great choice to have as a deputy director of the FBI.

[00:47:35] And we helped, as you very well know, we helped get rid of Sheriff Cronister.

[00:47:42] And I'd be happy to say it to his face.

[00:47:45] I'm glad we got rid of you.

[00:47:47] You did horrible things.

[00:47:49] You don't know what the proper role of government is.

[00:47:52] You have disdain for the Constitution.

[00:47:55] And that's why we got rid of you.

[00:47:56] And if you hadn't arrested Pastor Brown for having church service, I still would have been.

[00:48:03] He protected Pastor Brown and said, I'll stand with you, brother.

[00:48:06] In fact, we got a case in New Mexico where that's really documented.

[00:48:10] If you go to thefreedomconference.com.

[00:48:15] No, the Liberty Conference.

[00:48:16] Sorry.

[00:48:16] Thelibertyconference.com.

[00:48:17] You can watch our April press conference or our conference there.

[00:48:21] And you can see the sheriff and the pastor standing together.

[00:48:24] They got that done in New Mexico.

[00:48:26] Chad, you need to go watch that, buddy.

[00:48:28] But anyway, so Chad Cronister withdraws his name.

[00:48:30] And so we highly recommend Sheriff Mark Lamb to take over the DEA or put him in the FBI.

[00:48:36] We don't care which.

[00:48:36] But people like Mark Lamb need a role because that's how we're going to clean up, Sheriff.

[00:48:43] Yeah, and I'm worried because I've already heard two names and they're both DEA insiders.

[00:48:48] And there's just too much corruption in there to be able to do that.

[00:48:52] If you're really going to clean Washington, D.C., you've got to have people who really know the law,

[00:48:56] know law enforcement, know drug investigations and experience at the border, which Mark Lamb has all of that,

[00:49:04] and then get in there and clean it up.

[00:49:08] Just stir the pot within the organization is not going to help.

[00:49:13] And Cronister would have been the worst thing for the DEA and for President Trump, obviously.

[00:49:18] But I cannot support people from within that organization or even the FBI or any others for that matter.

[00:49:27] You're going to clean them up, get some new blood, get an outsider who can go in there and straighten things up

[00:49:35] and start making cuts, cuts, and cuts.

[00:49:41] Well, it's something that we can pray for.

[00:49:43] It's something that we can advocate for.

[00:49:45] It's something that we can work for.

[00:49:46] I'm wondering when Donald Trump is going to reach out and have you become part of the administration.

[00:49:51] There's some roles you can play too, Sheriff.

[00:49:53] Well, I've reached out to a couple of people in Washington, D.C.

[00:49:58] And Sam, I will tell you, I've asked for the support from some people to notify the president or to notify people that he has chosen,

[00:50:08] and in particular, Marco Rubio, who's going to be Secretary of State.

[00:50:13] I would like to work for Marco Rubio.

[00:50:16] I would like to be considered for the ambassadorship of El Salvador or Guatemala.

[00:50:26] I spent a year in each country.

[00:50:28] My degree is in Latin American studies, and I really think I could help,

[00:50:33] and I would really like to work with that new president of El Salvador.

[00:50:39] Young, nice-looking, has no tolerance at all for the cartels and the gangs,

[00:50:50] and that is very unique for a president in any Latin American country anywhere, especially Mexico.

[00:51:01] Mexico is 100% cartel government by, for, and of the cartels.

[00:51:08] 100%.

[00:51:10] And so he came in and did something different, and he's really focusing on the people and safety

[00:51:18] and getting rid of the criminals and getting rid of the drugs.

[00:51:22] So my hat's off to him, and I could really do something like that.

[00:51:25] But I don't think any of that's going to happen, and I love the job I have.

[00:51:30] And, you know, but you know as well as I do, I'm getting old.

[00:51:36] And I hope that we can find someone to take my place as the face of the CSPOA.

[00:51:45] And we make no – it's no secret that we're looking.

[00:51:50] There's no, I hope, no emergency to do so because I'm still feeling fine

[00:51:55] and feel like I still have a lot to offer.

[00:51:57] But it's something we need to look at.

[00:52:00] Yes, it is, and it takes a little bit of money to make some of that transition happen, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:52:04] Richard Mack can be on the board.

[00:52:05] He can write books.

[00:52:06] He can still make some great star-studded appearances.

[00:52:09] And, you know, if I'm needed to help run the organization, I'm glad to serve.

[00:52:13] But if others have that in mind, I'm willing to be a talk show host and an IT guy.

[00:52:17] That's what I do for a living, and I don't mind sticking with that either.

[00:52:20] But we want to see the training continue.

[00:52:23] We want to see the posse continue because that's really where we, the people, get a chance to make sure that, hey,

[00:52:29] it is about the proper rule of law enforcement.

[00:52:32] It is about the true blue, okay?

[00:52:35] It is about whistleblowing and due process of law and oaths of office and these kind of things.

[00:52:41] By the way, just a shouting part or a parting shout-out for you, Sheriff.

[00:52:46] You'll be delighted to hear these two quick headlines.

[00:52:49] Defunding Planned Parenthood is now, quote, a consensus position for congressional Republicans.

[00:52:56] That's headline one.

[00:52:58] Headline two is Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk are going to be, as far as I understand it,

[00:53:10] signal their intention to defund Planned Parenthood rights MSN of all groups.

[00:53:18] So you make it your wish, sir.

[00:53:21] Yeah, that's good to hear.

[00:53:23] And it touches my heart that that is actually the case, Sam, because the one of the most – in fact, I've said this before,

[00:53:32] and I think Michael Peruca did as well.

[00:53:37] The most corrupt thing happening in America is that taxpayers and Christians are forced to pay for abortion,

[00:53:46] to kill millions of babies every year.

[00:53:50] The most innocent among us.

[00:53:52] And that if we stop doing it, they'll send it to jail.

[00:53:57] But I am so grateful that it looks like that's going to happen, and I will do everything to make sure it does.

[00:54:05] Sheriff Mack, everybody.

[00:54:07] He's the founder and the president of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.

[00:54:12] That's the CSPOA.

[00:54:14] And he wants to create a partnership between we the people, the citizens, and local law enforcement, especially sheriffs.

[00:54:20] That's what the posse is all about.

[00:54:23] Become a member today.

[00:54:24] CSPOA.org.

[00:54:26] Weekly webinars, Q&As on the Constitution, the whole bit helping you get involved in not Republican or Democrat,

[00:54:34] but in the proper role of limited constitutional government, where they keep their oaths of office,

[00:54:39] where due process is front and center.

[00:54:42] Thank you, Sheriff.

[00:54:43] And God save the Republic.