* Guest: Casey Whalen, Investigative Journalist / Videographer, North Idaho Exposed - Casey Whalen https://substack.com/@caseywhalen
* Guest: Vicky Davis, Vicky was a Computer Systems Analyst/Programmer turned Internet Researcher and writer - As an Internet Researcher, she continues to apply her Systems Analyst skills focusing her research on the revolution in government from the systems perspective - TheTechnocraticTyranny.com
* How To Use Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) Requests - Purpose: Provides the public the right to request access to records from any federal agency.
* National Freedom of Information Coalition – Protecting Your Right to Open Government - NFOIC.org
* File, track, and share public records requests - MuckRock.com
* Similar Records Requests Work Under Different Names In Different States - Right To Know ETC.
* It's Important to Know, Any person can file these Records Requests.
* We Discuss The Records Request Process.
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[00:00:36] This is Hour 2 of 2, the goal always to protect life, liberty, and property, to promote God, family, and country.
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[00:00:45] We reject revolution.
[00:00:46] Unless it's a peaceful revolution, we follow the Prince of Peace, even Jesus Christ.
[00:00:50] We reject revolution.
[00:00:52] But, hey, we can stand together for the sacred cause of liberty.
[00:00:56] But, man, do we have enemies among us.
[00:00:58] I'll tell you that right now.
[00:00:59] Wow.
[00:01:01] Without further ado, we've got our dear friend Casey Whalen with us, North Idaho Exposed.
[00:01:08] He's an investigative journalist.
[00:01:12] He's a videographer.
[00:01:13] I mean, he just does some tremendous on-the-scene reporting.
[00:01:16] I'll tell you that right now.
[00:01:17] Welcome back, Sir.
[00:01:19] Hey, thank you so much for having us on today.
[00:01:21] Thank you, Sam.
[00:01:22] All right.
[00:01:22] We also have Vicki Davis with us.
[00:01:24] And Vicki was a computer systems analyst, programmer, turned into researcher, writer.
[00:01:31] Anyway, she's been at it for quite a while.
[00:01:32] And, man, she's exposing the truth everywhere.
[00:01:34] Her website, thetechnocratictyranny.com.
[00:01:38] Check that out.
[00:01:39] Vicki, welcome.
[00:01:40] Thank you very much.
[00:01:41] Happy to be here.
[00:01:43] What I want to talk about first, Casey, let's start out with you.
[00:01:46] You've kind of perfected this art.
[00:01:47] You can teach people all around the country to do it.
[00:01:50] And it's one of the things that I think is really vital to our cause.
[00:01:54] And what we're doing is this FOIA or, you know, requesting records.
[00:01:58] We have the right.
[00:01:59] There's been laws put in place for us to get the goods on what's happening.
[00:02:02] And in most cases, Americans just don't really realize what power we have through that capability.
[00:02:07] And they don't realize the information that we can glean about what they're doing to us.
[00:02:12] This has been huge in terms of our understanding of what's going on, number one.
[00:02:18] And number two, fighting tyranny everywhere.
[00:02:21] Casey?
[00:02:22] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:02:23] And thank you for the platform to discuss this because it is an important topic.
[00:02:27] And, you know, it sounds kind of boring, and it is.
[00:02:30] It is kind of boring and dry.
[00:02:33] But, you know, once you start doing public records requests and you start getting information,
[00:02:37] and I've shared many of my records requests with my friend here, Vicki Davis,
[00:02:41] and, you know, she can help kind of provide a little information where to look.
[00:02:44] And so it's nice to have someone that you can work with.
[00:02:48] Definitely having a mentor, I think, is really important and something that's not talked enough about.
[00:02:53] But finding someone who's had more experience than you in certain areas that you're not familiar with,
[00:02:58] I think, is extremely important.
[00:03:00] And teaming up with Vicki was really important to me because it helped push me to look for, you know,
[00:03:07] things in different places I may not otherwise have looked.
[00:03:10] So I started out just doing activism like five, six years ago, maybe seven years ago now.
[00:03:16] And I would take, I think I talked about this on your show before,
[00:03:19] I would take full-size constitutions into the police stations and the sheriff's departments.
[00:03:24] And I got these constitutions from the Idaho Secretary of State's office.
[00:03:28] And at the same time, I would record my interaction of doing that.
[00:03:32] And then I started doing public records requests to find out if they were, you know, talking about me.
[00:03:39] I just would start doing records requests through the police department, I believe, if I remember right.
[00:03:43] I've done so many, it's hard to remember looking back.
[00:03:47] But essentially, I would use my name.
[00:03:50] And one of the things I started doing is I would start scraping email domains for a keyword.
[00:03:56] And I would use my last name, which is a bit unique, and that's important.
[00:04:01] But a unique keyword goes a long way.
[00:04:05] So I would use my last name, and I would use a date range.
[00:04:09] And then you always want to ask for electronic records.
[00:04:14] You're always trying to avoid fees.
[00:04:15] And in different states, which I'll get to, have different laws.
[00:04:20] And once you kind of, I looked at a couple different states.
[00:04:23] We were going to have Representative Jamie Allernon to talk about rank choice voting and some other topics.
[00:04:29] She couldn't join us, but I looked into her state.
[00:04:32] So in Alaska, so we have a couple different things to compare with.
[00:04:36] But suffice to say that I found through the police department that they basically made a flyer of me with me walking into the police department with a stack of constitutions.
[00:04:48] Just saying for internal purposes only, saying that I'm not wanted for anything, but I'm going into the police departments, and I'm taking video of sensitive areas.
[00:04:57] Or, you know, it's just the police station, really, outside and everything, as a litmus test.
[00:05:01] And so I found out by doing that that they were disseminating me through, basically through the fusion centers.
[00:05:07] And so at that point, I just really got into doing public records requests and learned to do them in a variety of ways.
[00:05:17] And I'll kind of stop there for those who have any questions.
[00:05:19] They're carrying constitutions, walking into the police department, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:05:23] I don't know what we're going to do.
[00:05:24] They're carrying a—I mean, he's got a bunch of these constitutions.
[00:05:27] What the heck is going on?
[00:05:29] Vicki, I want to know what on earth is happening.
[00:05:32] That's a reportable thing to the fusion centers?
[00:05:35] Oh, they report everything.
[00:05:37] And worse than that, it's the groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center and the IREHR, which Casey can tell you what the acronym is.
[00:05:51] But it's all these leftist Marxist groups who file reports on everything anybody on the right does.
[00:06:02] And so that gets you flagged as basically a domestic terrorist, you know, for doing nothing more, as Casey said, handing out constitutions.
[00:06:18] And when I first started my activism, I called the mayor of Idaho Falls to ask about the implementation of Agenda 21.
[00:06:31] Well, apparently that got me tagged as a terrorist, you know, because I had a guy interview me.
[00:06:40] And in his article, he said, funny thing, she doesn't look like a terrorist sitting there in the chair with her pink v-neck sweater.
[00:06:52] You know, and I mean, that just blew me away.
[00:06:56] Where on earth would they get the idea that I'm a terrorist?
[00:07:00] The worst thing I ever did was get a traffic ticket, you know, so.
[00:07:06] And they called me a terrorist and I've never even had a traffic ticket, Vicki.
[00:07:10] Oh, well, well, you got me beat then.
[00:07:13] Yeah.
[00:07:15] Casey.
[00:07:15] It's an insane system that where the deck is stacked against conservatives.
[00:07:23] I mean, they had this whole system in place before conservatives understood what was happening.
[00:07:32] Yeah.
[00:07:32] And basically, I just started doing records requests on myself.
[00:07:35] I was sort of using myself as a guinea pig.
[00:07:37] And I would go through being a First Amendment auditor.
[00:07:40] That's where you're just filming, you know, our public buildings, et cetera.
[00:07:45] And then the police would usually show up.
[00:07:47] And then I would do a public record request.
[00:07:48] And I would get the body camera.
[00:07:50] So I'd sort of, like, use my constitutional protected activities, the things I was doing, filming in public or whatever.
[00:07:58] The cops would show up.
[00:07:59] I'd sort of use that as a way to learn how to get body camera.
[00:08:04] You know, once you sort of identify where to look, you're just getting it from the custodian.
[00:08:08] So if you want to get a police report, obviously that's through the police department.
[00:08:11] Once you learn where you look, you know, where the contact is, either it's a form or you send an email to somebody.
[00:08:19] Once you establish that, after that's over, it's very easy to go, okay, I want to get the police report and the CAD report from the police department.
[00:08:28] And a CAD report is a, I think it's computer automated something.
[00:08:32] It's like basically a text version of a 911 call or an audio call to police.
[00:08:37] And so there'll almost always be a CAD report, C-A-D, CAD report.
[00:08:42] So I always ask for a CAD report, and there won't always be a police report.
[00:08:47] So I always ask for a police and a CAD report.
[00:08:49] You can ask for people in the community.
[00:08:52] Sometimes I'll just ask for, you know, my friend wanted to look up the...
[00:08:55] By the way, it's computer-aided dispatch, just so you know.
[00:08:58] Okay, thank you.
[00:09:00] And so anyways, like a friend of mine wanted to know if they had been reported to the police.
[00:09:03] So I would ask for their, you know, have they been reported or their police report on them.
[00:09:08] They usually ask for a second identifier, like a birth date or something.
[00:09:13] I'll provide that, and they'll give me all of the police reports for said person for a date range.
[00:09:18] So it's really powerful.
[00:09:20] And then, you know, sometimes there are sheriffs have their own sheriff's reports, like a police report.
[00:09:25] Sometimes it's not handled through the police department.
[00:09:28] So where I am, the 911 audio calls, you can get those.
[00:09:33] Anything of public interest, you know, you can get.
[00:09:37] So a 911 call is public, basically.
[00:09:40] So I will get the 911 call.
[00:09:42] They'll usually redact certain sections of the audio, things, you know, names, things that they can't release, birth dates, that sort of thing.
[00:09:51] But ultimately...
[00:09:52] Which when they don't overdo it and play games with it, we actually respect that, right?
[00:09:56] Yeah, and so, like, that's what we'll get to as far as repercussions because that's one of the things a lot of people will...
[00:10:02] I hear that all the time, you know, don't you think they're withholding information from us?
[00:10:07] And no.
[00:10:08] They really have done this so much that I can easily say I don't think these people are doing that.
[00:10:15] I'm sure there are cases where that does happen.
[00:10:18] I think they're very high-profile, unique cases they are.
[00:10:20] But for the most part, no, you get what you ask for.
[00:10:22] Now, there's ways that they try to block you from getting the information.
[00:10:26] But they don't not give it to you.
[00:10:28] And let me explain what I mean.
[00:10:29] I don't know everything about it, but I do know that I got an attorney fired for playing games with records that we were requesting.
[00:10:35] And he tried to change the nature of the records, and I caught him before the ombudsman of the records department of the state of Utah.
[00:10:41] And eventually he had to resign because he basically got fired.
[00:10:46] You'll be fired if you don't resign kind of thing.
[00:10:47] But anyway, the long story short of that is there's ways that they try to play games with you.
[00:10:53] What you think is when you file a records request, I need to make this as broad as I can so that I don't miss anything.
[00:10:59] But then what they do is they just backfire on you and say, okay, that's a voluminous request.
[00:11:02] We don't have to honor this.
[00:11:03] And there are rules about how big the report can be.
[00:11:07] And then the second thing they'll do in addition to saying it's a voluminous request, they'll say, oh, we will get this request for you.
[00:11:13] But because it's so big, we're going to charge you a gazillion dollars to get this.
[00:11:17] And all they're doing is trying to put roadblocks in your way or they'll let the time almost run out.
[00:11:22] And then they'll send something out to you and you have to respond to it.
[00:11:25] And they'll try to play those kind of games.
[00:11:27] But if you know how to submit the request correctly, you don't make it voluminous.
[00:11:30] You make it tidy and clean.
[00:11:32] And even if you have to make another follow-up request, fine.
[00:11:35] But don't make them too big.
[00:11:36] Don't make them crazy.
[00:11:37] And make them where you can actually get – if you have to pay for it, you can actually get it.
[00:11:42] Aren't those some of the keys, Casey?
[00:11:44] Absolutely, yeah.
[00:11:45] That's the whole point of when I do a record request, I'm making sure that I'm going to avoid fees.
[00:11:49] And I do that by understanding the Idaho law on that.
[00:11:53] And so, of course, we live in an administrative state.
[00:11:56] So our public employees have to follow the dictates, the rules, right?
[00:12:01] So we have to learn those rules.
[00:12:03] So I encourage people to look up their public record request law in their state.
[00:12:07] And usually the attorney general will provide a handbook of how to do public records requests.
[00:12:12] And it's very boiled down.
[00:12:14] You can read the state law language.
[00:12:16] But I was looking at – I think it was Utah, actually, your state.
[00:12:20] They have Grandma, the Government Records Access and Management Act.
[00:12:23] And it was very, very hard to find specific information.
[00:12:30] So I encourage people to try to find that handbook from the attorney general's office.
[00:12:35] But basically –
[00:12:35] Grandma request is the same thing as a FOIA request, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:12:38] It's just on the state level.
[00:12:39] They call it something slightly different.
[00:12:41] But it's basically a public records request.
[00:12:43] It's similar.
[00:12:43] It's almost identical.
[00:12:45] And they even have ombudsman of a given state to deal with records to make sure that, hey, if the record people aren't complying properly, you can get that person to partner with.
[00:12:54] And they actually are very helpful.
[00:12:55] They'll give you guidance about how you should submit your requests not to be so voluminous.
[00:13:00] They'll give you – you've got to be careful of them.
[00:13:02] They're not always your friend.
[00:13:03] But they will give you some pointers and stuff.
[00:13:06] And I think learning to refine how you do this is key, Casey.
[00:13:09] They're supposed to work with you, right.
[00:13:11] So for instance, when I submit a public record request – I mean, I've done this so much so I sort of know how to avoid fees.
[00:13:17] But in Idaho, for instance, I'll just let you know that the first – they have to – after you submit your public record request, the entity has three days to reply to you.
[00:13:26] So that's – if they don't reply after three days, I'm going to be contacting them and saying, what's going on?
[00:13:32] Then they have up to seven days after that to fulfill the record request.
[00:13:37] It might be ten days.
[00:13:37] I can't quite remember.
[00:13:38] Then they can file an extension, I think, another ten days, if memory serves correctly.
[00:13:45] And then also in Idaho, the first two hours are free.
[00:13:49] And then after that, you basically pay the per hour salary of the lawyer or the public employee.
[00:13:57] So that can get expensive.
[00:13:59] But like you're saying, you want to make your public record request concise because you want to make it easy for them.
[00:14:06] Because if they already have the information, I will literally get a public record request back in the same day.
[00:14:11] If it's something like a police report and I'm just saying I want the specific thing, they'll just give it to you right away.
[00:14:17] If you make it like really – I want like five years of emails from so-and-so, that's a lot of work.
[00:14:23] So you want to respect –
[00:14:24] It's a lot of work.
[00:14:24] It costs a lot of money.
[00:14:25] And here's the biggest part that I've learned from experience too.
[00:14:28] And I don't know everything about it.
[00:14:29] I'm not near as knowledgeable as Casey.
[00:14:31] But I have had a little bit of practice.
[00:14:33] As I told you, I got an attorney fired over this stuff.
[00:14:35] But anyway, one of the things that's important is when you get back the data, if you're not very careful and you ask for big requests, all it does is make it hard for you to find what you're looking for too.
[00:14:45] Right, Casey?
[00:14:47] Yep, absolutely.
[00:14:48] So that's why it's important.
[00:14:50] And like I said earlier, one of my go-to records requests is scraping an email domain for a keyword.
[00:14:55] So I've done this many times through like the city and the police share the same email domain, cdaid.org.
[00:15:03] I'm in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.
[00:15:04] And so I will ask for all emails to and from that domain name for a keyword.
[00:15:11] And if the keyword is general, then my date range has to be shorter.
[00:15:17] But if my keyword or my keywords are unique, then my date range can be longer.
[00:15:23] And it's really that simple as far as that one's concerned.
[00:15:26] And then you're asking for electronic records to avoid fees.
[00:15:29] And then, like you said, you can break them up.
[00:15:31] Now, one of the things in Idaho you can't do, I've actually had a senior editor of the New American magazine, Bill Jasper.
[00:15:38] He lives in the area and some other local citizens.
[00:15:40] I tried to do a multiple-year record request, and I broke it up into pieces.
[00:15:46] And then I have other people like Bill Jasper and other people in the community, you know, fill out a section of it, you know, and turn it in.
[00:15:54] And they refuse to do it because you can't break up a record request to avoid fees.
[00:16:00] So you just sort of do it, you know, you can do it, but you won't usually get called out on it.
[00:16:07] I've only been called out one other time for doing that.
[00:16:10] So just being aware of the records request laws.
[00:16:14] But you just want to keep it as short and concise as possible to avoid fees and get it back in a much quicker fashion.
[00:16:22] And so in Utah, where you are, the entities have 10 business days to respond or five days if the requester can demonstrate the public record request benefits the public rather than the person.
[00:16:39] And then they can produce it within 5 to 15 days.
[00:16:42] Now, the cool thing about Utah, and we need to adopt this in Idaho, is they have basically penalties, which results in a Class B misdemeanor.
[00:16:53] And a couple of those examples is not producing certain public records.
[00:16:58] So there's some real teeth to kind of dispel that notion that they're not giving us certain records.
[00:17:05] You're lucky in Utah that you have that because that's a little fire.
[00:17:08] Yeah, and timeliness is one of the big things where they can get penalties, too, if you make sure you follow up and watch the timelines carefully.
[00:17:15] Oftentimes, you can catch them because a lot of times they wait until the timeline is about over.
[00:17:20] They do it on purpose to frustrate you.
[00:17:21] But that can backfire because they don't have their act together a lot of times, and that can benefit you.
[00:17:25] Let's go to Vicki Davis, thetechnocratictyranny.com.
[00:17:28] Vicki, do you have some things you want to add on this records request stuff?
[00:17:32] This is really one of the greatest ways we've been getting information, right?
[00:17:37] Oh, absolutely.
[00:17:37] I so appreciate what Casey does because you never know what you're going to get back.
[00:17:47] And so even though an email or something may not seem like it's related to anything,
[00:17:56] if you're a researcher like I am, you can pick up connections, relationships, things that are happening that perhaps other people wouldn't.
[00:18:10] So it's really good to have a team.
[00:18:14] I mean, Casey just, I can't say how much I appreciate what he does with these FOIA requests because it gives me background information.
[00:18:27] Well, remember, Vicki, one of the cool things we found was we did a record request through the city of Boise,
[00:18:33] a very liberal place there with Mayor McLean, and doing a record request for the Western State Center,
[00:18:42] which is based out of Portland, Oregon, and found that through communications, through emails, that they were, they had a boutique, right?
[00:18:49] Vicki, I can't remember the name of it, but essentially they were influencing the city with this Marxist ideology being brought to us by the Western State Center out of Portland, Oregon.
[00:19:02] So that was pretty shocking.
[00:19:03] And we've had a bunch of records requests that were some pretty big epiphanies throughout the last handful of years.
[00:19:09] So it's been a lot of fun and to kind of expose a lot of things in my community.
[00:19:15] So I've just been focusing locally where I am for the most part.
[00:19:18] But, you know, across the nation, you have on the East Coast, they have the Right to Know Act.
[00:19:23] And I've had very, really good experiences on the East Coast doing records requests.
[00:19:27] One of the worst places I have done records requests is Montana.
[00:19:31] And I'm actually working with a senator, Mark Nolan, to basically take some of Idaho's public record request law and incorporate it into Montana because it's very, very vague in Montana.
[00:19:44] The entities are allowed to basically create their own timeline dates to, you know, to respond.
[00:19:49] There's nothing really specific.
[00:19:50] So I'm trying to incorporate language in the next legislative session this next year to kind of mimic Idaho.
[00:19:58] And then maybe in Idaho, we need to copy what you're doing in Utah with this, you know, this Class B misdemeanor.
[00:20:04] Because in Idaho, basically the remedy for them not fulfilling a public record request is the lawsuit, which I've done here locally through the Kellogg School District.
[00:20:14] But that's not really an avenue for most people because obviously it costs money.
[00:20:20] So I think by having this Class B misdemeanor as a result of them not producing records would go a long way rather than the entity just face a $1,000 penalty, you know.
[00:20:32] So I think that's something that needs to happen.
[00:20:35] But, for instance, in Alaska, this is interesting.
[00:20:38] They have five hours in a calendar month before you're charged to produce records.
[00:20:43] So in Idaho, it's two hours per record request.
[00:20:46] In Alaska, it's a total of five hours.
[00:20:49] I guess that must be through a specific entity.
[00:20:51] So you sort of have to know that so that you can, you know, to avoid fees.
[00:20:55] And then they have 10 working days before filing a response.
[00:20:58] And then they have 10 days to produce and then can ask for a 10-day extension.
[00:21:03] And then you can also ask for most public records requests.
[00:21:08] In most states, they have a fee relief.
[00:21:10] And this is verbiage from Alaska.
[00:21:12] It says that records are likely to contribute to the public's understanding of the operations or activities of the state government.
[00:21:20] So if you're, you know, someone in the press who's trying to get some information that, you know, benefits the public, you can get fees, you know, waived.
[00:21:28] So that's always something to think about.
[00:21:30] Even if you're a citizen, I think you're still privy to that also.
[00:21:36] I think it's important to understand, too, that in Utah, I know they call them the grandma requests.
[00:21:41] They're the same thing as kind of a FOIA request.
[00:21:43] Are they called different things in different states?
[00:21:45] Casey, do you know?
[00:21:46] Yeah, like on the East Coast, like I said, they have – different states call it different.
[00:21:50] Other things, the Right to Know Act.
[00:21:54] Let's see, in Utah, it's the Alaska Public Records Act.
[00:21:59] So they have these cute little acronyms, you know.
[00:22:01] That's in Alaska, right?
[00:22:03] Yes.
[00:22:05] Yeah.
[00:22:05] So, I mean, you can ask for anything when you do a record request, obviously, as long as it's a public.
[00:22:11] You can't ask for, you know, medical records, obviously.
[00:22:14] Yeah, and you also can't ask for some stuff that's classified.
[00:22:17] We're not telling you it gets you everything, but there's a ton of stuff that you can get.
[00:22:21] Vicki, that's really one of the key components of your research is getting some of this information,
[00:22:25] kind of plowing through it and getting nuggets out of there, right?
[00:22:29] Well, not really.
[00:22:30] I don't use FOIAs that much, but what I do is that I go to the source website, the government website, the Congress,
[00:22:42] the think tanks that are very close to government.
[00:22:51] And people used to call me a conspiracy theorist.
[00:22:58] They don't anymore because I have backup for everything that I say.
[00:23:04] But they have been trying to dissolve the sovereignty of our country since the United Nations was established.
[00:23:14] And their modus operandi is to use international agreements, trade agreements.
[00:23:21] They call them trade agreements, but they're really not trade agreements.
[00:23:25] They are harmonization agreements to harmonize our government with the other governments of the region,
[00:23:37] which the region that we're in is the Americas.
[00:23:41] And so what I do is that I go to the government websites
[00:23:48] where they describe the individual actions that have been taken over time to dissolve our sovereignty.
[00:23:58] All right, hang tight, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:24:00] We're going to transition a little bit from records requests to research
[00:24:03] and some of the things Vicki Davis has discovered.
[00:24:06] She's got some great articles.
[00:24:08] She's not only a researcher but an author.
[00:24:10] She's got some great articles we'll drill into as well.
[00:24:12] Ladies and gentlemen, we're talking to Vicki Davis, Casey Whalen.
[00:24:15] We're talking about you getting involved in the solutions.
[00:24:20] And these guys are pioneers in these fields, and that's why we've got them on your radio.
[00:24:24] Put it all together, and we the people can become in charge again.
[00:24:27] I'll tell you that right now.
[00:24:28] Vicki Davis with us.
[00:24:33] Thetechnocratictyranny.com.
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[00:26:00] Russia's latest assault on Ukraine saw drones, glide bombs, even a ballistic missile unleashed on civilian targets.
[00:26:06] A five-story apartment block in Kriviria, the hometown of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenskyy,
[00:26:13] was hit by a Russian ballistic missile injuring at least eight people.
[00:26:16] Officials say emergency services with heavy machinery searched through the rubber.
[00:26:21] The missile destroyed all five stories in one part of the building.
[00:26:25] The attacks won of several which smashed into cities in southern and eastern Ukraine on Monday.
[00:26:30] Five people died as a result of a Russian strike on Ukraine's southern town of Mykolaiv,
[00:26:34] and there was at least one death with over a dozen injured from attacks on the southeastern city of Zaporizhia.
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[00:28:00] I really don't want to talk about this, but I will.
[00:28:02] I'm just so mad.
[00:28:03] I didn't get asked to the junior prom, and it's raining,
[00:28:05] which means by the time I get to school, I'm soaking wet.
[00:28:08] Dad picked me up just after I left, and I was so mad.
[00:28:10] I got out, and he said,
[00:28:11] Wait, your mom said to give you this.
[00:28:12] I forgot my lunch money, and then I dropped it in the water, and I was late for history,
[00:28:15] and so at lunchtime I had to find something on John Stuart Mill,
[00:28:18] which of course our library didn't have.
[00:28:20] So I had to walk all the way down to the office to call my mom,
[00:28:22] and she found something on the internet and called me back.
[00:28:25] And Karen, she wouldn't even help me,
[00:28:26] and that's a whole nother story.
[00:28:27] But Dad helped me conjugate nouns or whatever on the way to the swim team workout,
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[00:28:32] and of course I forgot the bibliography,
[00:28:34] so I had to do that with my mother when I got home,
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[00:30:00] We're broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West.
[00:30:18] You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.
[00:30:24] All right.
[00:30:25] Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:30:26] Casey Whalen, Vicki Davis on your radio.
[00:30:29] We're talking about records requests, how to get done for your requests on the national level,
[00:30:33] and similar requests on your state level, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:30:37] So that's really, really important to understand.
[00:30:40] There's so much to do with this.
[00:30:43] It's not that complicated once you learn how.
[00:30:45] First, it seems like it's really complicated.
[00:30:46] It's like driving a stick shift car, I always like to say.
[00:30:49] At first, man, you see someone do it, you're like, I'll never get that done.
[00:30:51] How do I?
[00:30:52] And then pretty soon you can eat a cheeseburger and drink a milkshake and drive your stick shift car all at the same time.
[00:30:57] It's kind of like that a little bit, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:30:58] It seems complicated, but it's really not.
[00:31:01] Casey Whalen doing a phenomenal job explaining it, folks.
[00:31:04] How to use Freedom of Information Act FOIA requests.
[00:31:07] That's on the national level, usually the FOIA.
[00:31:09] They're under different names in the different states, et cetera.
[00:31:13] And Casey, you wanted to mention a couple of websites to help get people kind of included on how to do this,
[00:31:19] and they can see how others are filing them and the kind of guidance of doing so.
[00:31:23] They're just tremendous sites, sir.
[00:31:26] Yeah, I'll get to that in just a second.
[00:31:27] But basically once you establish, like I said earlier, where you do the record request, where you submit that to,
[00:31:33] and I suggest that people find out through the Sheriff's Department, Police Department, and the city, at least those three.
[00:31:39] And then if you read something in the newspaper, a lot of times you'll find leads there.
[00:31:44] They'll tell you, oh, we sent a communique to X, and so then you can do a public record request on that.
[00:31:50] And a recent example I'll use here is the Montana Human Rights Network basically put out an expose on a professor at Montana Tech named Trennan Bayless, a professor there.
[00:32:03] And essentially they bragged about sending a letter to the college asking them to terminate him for being a white nationalist, quote, unquote.
[00:32:10] And they were citing a third-party source as him being this white nationalist.
[00:32:17] And so essentially I did a rec request through the college for, you know, through the Montana Human Rights Network essentially for all their emails for a three-month duration.
[00:32:27] And I found out that the college behind the scenes wasn't really trusting the Montana Human Rights Network,
[00:32:33] and they were standing by Trennan saying that they're not going to discriminate against him.
[00:32:38] And they were saying that there's really no proof that it's Mr. Bayless in this third-party sourced information.
[00:32:46] So then you had like the Daily Montana running an article on it and a local TV outlet.
[00:32:52] So basically I was able to show through records requests that the college was siding with Trennan and supporting him without real proof.
[00:33:01] So a couple of websites I suggest that people check out is –
[00:33:05] And this is really important to know because at first you'd think, oh, my gosh,
[00:33:08] the government's against him, who's against him.
[00:33:09] And you find out it's just this whacked-out REHR kind of human rights thing of Montana group that's just on a bender.
[00:33:15] And the university is saying, wait, hold on a minute.
[00:33:19] We don't really see any of this from this guy.
[00:33:21] And even if he has a couple of opinions that are out on the Internet, whether it's him or not,
[00:33:25] it doesn't relate to what he's done.
[00:33:26] He's done nothing like that in the college.
[00:33:28] And they're kind of putting truth to reality here, and you see that behind the scenes, right?
[00:33:31] And that's really good to know.
[00:33:34] Mr. Bayless even said that he's basically working by himself essentially or very limited with other people because of this –
[00:33:42] because of these articles.
[00:33:43] And so he may have grounds for a lawsuit if his contract isn't renewed in December, I would guess.
[00:33:49] So I've been talking with him a little bit, but he wouldn't really talk to me much about that obviously.
[00:33:54] So it's just important.
[00:33:55] But a couple of websites that people should check out is the National Freedom of Information Coalition.
[00:34:01] That's nfoic.org, nfoic.org.
[00:34:07] And that's a great resource.
[00:34:09] You can look up information by your state as far as your record request law.
[00:34:14] And then you can also look up sample letters that you can send to specific entities that will cite the law.
[00:34:21] It's a template.
[00:34:21] You can just plug your information in and send an email.
[00:34:24] It makes it really easy because I know at first it's really – you know, it seems really hard, but, you know,
[00:34:29] you can just send an email to really anybody at a specific entity.
[00:34:34] Notice the agent has noticed the principal advice.
[00:34:38] You know, I've had success just sending it to whoever, and then they will send it to the right person because they're supposed to.
[00:34:44] And so another website is muckrock, M-U-C-K-R-O-C-K, muckrock.com.
[00:34:51] And that one is a good resource.
[00:34:53] I'm new to that one.
[00:34:56] Investigative journalist George Webb suggested that one to me.
[00:34:59] And that one allows you to do public records requests at a federal level, and it allows you to submit multiple records requests – the same record request – to multiple entities.
[00:35:11] So it saves you a lot of time.
[00:35:13] Federal records requests, honestly, I've had a challenge with a bit.
[00:35:17] But recently I did receive emails from a local Department of Justice employee here at the U.S. District Attorney's Office of Idaho,
[00:35:27] but it took like a year and a half to get these emails.
[00:35:31] So a federal takes a long time, and it's hard to find the right entity that you're supposed to, you know, send their request to.
[00:35:39] So that's sort of all I had on that for the most part.
[00:35:42] But those websites help quite a bit in giving you examples and guidance and kind of a community.
[00:35:46] There's a lot where you can share records requests and let people know what you're finding,
[00:35:50] and you can see how other people write them, and you can do all kind of things on these websites, right?
[00:35:55] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:35:56] They're great resources.
[00:35:57] And something that's important that he hadn't – that Casey didn't mention there is that that group, Montana Human Rights Network,
[00:36:07] what they did against this professor was basically to get involved in politics because he was in –
[00:36:15] He was running for office.
[00:36:18] He is.
[00:36:19] And according –
[00:36:19] Yeah, the term they use for that is electioneering, right?
[00:36:23] Well, election interference for sure.
[00:36:27] But according to their tax-exempt status, 501c3, they cannot get involved in politics.
[00:36:38] It has to be –
[00:36:39] Yeah, and Mr. Bayless was running for – sorry, go ahead, Vicki.
[00:36:42] It has to be issue only.
[00:36:45] If they want to get involved in politics, they have to set up a 501c4.
[00:36:52] But this woman who wrote these letters, scurrilous letters against this professor, she did it under the Montana Human Rights Network,
[00:37:08] which is a 501c3.
[00:37:10] So they could lose their tax-exempt status over this kind of stuff.
[00:37:18] Yeah, so the question becomes, is this Human Rights Group of Montana engaged in illegal electioneering is the question, right?
[00:37:26] Yeah, Mr. Bayless is running for House District 74, and he lives out somewhere in the Butte area of Montana, just FYI.
[00:37:35] I don't know if it's illegal.
[00:37:38] It should be illegal if it isn't.
[00:37:42] Well, that's why you asked the question, is this group involved in illegal electioneering?
[00:37:48] We don't know for a fact because, again, some of this stuff hasn't even gone to court.
[00:37:52] And so some things may be wrong and illegal, but if it hasn't been challenged in court, they say, well, we don't really know.
[00:37:56] So, but to me, when they basically make this alleged issue about this guy being this white supremacist and making all these things and statements,
[00:38:04] and they didn't even do their research well, it's not even this right guy, first of all.
[00:38:08] Secondly, you know, so you look at this and you go, wow, the timing of this is sure interesting.
[00:38:12] Let's talk about motive.
[00:38:13] Let's talk about intent.
[00:38:15] Did they just defame him by accident or was it intentional?
[00:38:17] And, you know, you get all kinds of questions on that.
[00:38:19] James O'Keefe just beat CNN over this very issue.
[00:38:24] Well, it has to be intent because I went to the website where they had their alleged evidence.
[00:38:32] There were no sources cited.
[00:38:35] There was nothing there except accusations.
[00:38:40] And so, I mean, you know, I could sit down and write out accusations against any politician,
[00:38:48] but it doesn't mean anything if you don't have sources.
[00:38:53] And that's what they did to this professor.
[00:38:57] So when Montana Human Rights Network wrote these letters accusing him of being a white supremacist.
[00:39:05] And they really think they called him a white nationalist, too.
[00:39:08] A white nationalist.
[00:39:10] Yeah, they called him several different names.
[00:39:13] And all of them bad.
[00:39:14] They're trying to marry the two terms.
[00:39:15] But they were.
[00:39:17] But it was just as if you sat down and wrote something and then they use that as evidence.
[00:39:26] That's not evidence.
[00:39:28] And especially if you're going to destroy somebody's reputation and their career.
[00:39:38] I'm wondering if they're guilty of electioneering, illegal electioneering.
[00:39:42] I'm wondering this James O'Keefe case kind of set the standard.
[00:39:46] I don't know if you guys have been following this case.
[00:39:48] But he's been battling for a couple of years against CNN.
[00:39:51] And CNN literally tried to say that they can literally peddle fake news and it's no problem.
[00:39:56] And the judge wouldn't have any of it.
[00:39:58] And James O'Keefe won and CNN lost.
[00:40:00] That's a huge case that I'm following right now.
[00:40:02] Are you familiar with that, Casey?
[00:40:03] Casey?
[00:40:03] I'm not.
[00:40:04] No.
[00:40:05] No.
[00:40:05] No, I wasn't either.
[00:40:07] But I am so glad to hear that.
[00:40:10] Because if you've got a platform as big as CNN and you think you have a license to lie,
[00:40:20] that's horribly dangerous.
[00:40:22] Terribly dangerous.
[00:40:23] And just real quickly, I wanted to mention real quick about that Montana Tech public record request.
[00:40:29] It took 30 days and then they actually exceeded that.
[00:40:32] And I had to follow up with them to get the record request.
[00:40:35] That's what I mean about Montana.
[00:40:36] They just sort of have their general guidelines.
[00:40:39] But basically when I read the record request, they suggested that the Montana Human Rights Network submit Title IX complaints.
[00:40:49] So I did a record request for all Title IX complaints for Mr. Bayless.
[00:40:54] Guess how many Title IX complaints there are?
[00:40:57] 20.
[00:40:58] How many?
[00:40:59] Zero.
[00:40:59] Zero.
[00:41:02] So there you go.
[00:41:03] No one's complaining, huh?
[00:41:05] No.
[00:41:07] So it really shows.
[00:41:09] It just shows how out of touch where the people are, right?
[00:41:12] So the whole thing was a complete fabrication.
[00:41:17] Absolutely.
[00:41:18] But they've done that against me and Casey and others and you too, Vicki, for quite some time, right?
[00:41:24] I don't know.
[00:41:26] I've never inquired whether they write anything about me or not because I don't really care.
[00:41:34] I do what I do.
[00:41:35] And if they think I've made a mistake, let me know.
[00:41:42] I'll research it and fix it.
[00:41:45] But nobody really has done that.
[00:41:51] All right.
[00:41:52] Let's talk a little bit about more of your research for a second, Vicki, too.
[00:41:56] What are some of the latest articles you've written?
[00:41:58] You've basically written about how governments changed into a criminal government, right?
[00:42:01] Yeah.
[00:42:03] Well, I was a systems analyst and so what I did was to do analysis and design computer systems for corporations.
[00:42:15] Well, government is really no different in the terms of how they do analysis and develop computer systems.
[00:42:27] Well, in the 1990s, the Clinton-Gore administration began a project to reinvent government, to redesign our systems of government.
[00:42:44] And so what they did basically was to corporatize our government, have government operate in the same way as a corporation.
[00:42:57] Which, you know, a lot of people might think that that's a good thing, you know, saving money and all of that stuff.
[00:43:06] But when you're talking about government, you're talking about power.
[00:43:11] And when you redesign systems like that, you're talking about consolidation of power.
[00:43:18] You're talking about a government, you know, like communist China or the Soviet Union.
[00:43:26] You know, they basically eliminated the rules for how the agencies of government could collaborate.
[00:43:35] You know, so, and all of that process, the process of redesigning the government, it's on the government websites.
[00:43:45] It's in the congressional record.
[00:43:47] You know, you can find information on that.
[00:43:52] And so what I do is I try to explain what they did and how it changed.
[00:44:02] I think they just changed our form of government.
[00:44:07] We don't have a government that operates under the Constitution anymore.
[00:44:13] We have a government that operates under the Organization for American States and the United Nations.
[00:44:23] And so I try to explain how that happened.
[00:44:28] And honestly, I know that not many, not that many people can follow my research.
[00:44:36] But for the few who can, I want to give them the information so they know what was done, when it was done, and who did it.
[00:44:47] Because from that, you can begin to deconstruct what they built.
[00:44:55] And that's really what we need to do.
[00:44:58] We need to get out of the United Nations.
[00:45:01] We need to get out of the Organization for American States.
[00:45:06] We need to cancel these so-called free trade agreements.
[00:45:12] Because those agreements were basically doing a merger of our countries.
[00:45:21] And just real quickly, go ahead, Vicki, sorry.
[00:45:24] No, go ahead.
[00:45:25] I was just going to say that locally that's being reflected as far as the United Nations is concerned.
[00:45:30] Because these local human rights entities we have, one is the Human Rights Education Institute, in front of the building here in Coeur d'Alene, they have a large stone tablet with the preamble to the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights.
[00:45:46] And the HREI, the Human Rights Education Institute, will say they promote the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Constitution.
[00:45:53] But those two things are not, you know, similar.
[00:45:56] They're very different.
[00:45:57] And there's one real quick thing I wanted to add, just to add to what you're saying there, Vicki, is that seven words not in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that are in the Constitution.
[00:46:08] Those words are petition, probable cause, trial by jury, due process, unreasonable searches, excessive bail, and free state.
[00:46:19] So I just want to tee that up for you, Vicki.
[00:46:20] Yeah.
[00:46:22] Uh-huh.
[00:46:23] Um, yeah.
[00:46:24] Um, yeah.
[00:46:24] And in the implementation, the, uh, human rights under the United Nations, they are trying to make everybody equal.
[00:46:36] Not, uh, not just equal under the law, but equal, um, in terms of, oh, I don't know, their moral character.
[00:46:49] That's why you have the, the whole LGBTQ agenda in the schools, because they consider the LGBTQ community to have human rights and children to have human rights to grow up to be a trans or whatever, or for a pedophile to be able to adopt a child.
[00:47:13] All of these things that are predicated upon a Christian moral foundation all go away under the UN of what I consider to be insane egalitarianism.
[00:47:32] You can't have total egalitarianism at a global level and have a country that functions under your moral values.
[00:47:46] And it doesn't matter whether your country is a, a Muslim country or a Christian country or, um, you know, name some other religion.
[00:47:59] Your country has a culture and the UN comes in and says, no, no, that culture doesn't work.
[00:48:07] You have to take the UN culture, which is totally egalitarian, which means they're destroying your culture.
[00:48:16] And that's what's happening to our country.
[00:48:21] Or you have the Biden administration come in and, and, and echo that too.
[00:48:26] Yeah.
[00:48:27] Which they've certainly done with the, uh.
[00:48:29] No problem saying that.
[00:48:29] You know, we, um, it isn't moral as far as I'm concerned to, uh, bring deviant sexual material into the classroom.
[00:48:43] That's for sure.
[00:48:44] And, and I don't care.
[00:48:46] I'll fight with anybody about that.
[00:48:47] Amen to that.
[00:48:49] I want to play a little clip from Ronald Reagan, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:48:51] And I, I'm not a super fan of Ronald Reagan.
[00:48:53] I agree.
[00:48:54] A lot of bad happened on his watch.
[00:48:56] Same thing with Donald Trump though.
[00:48:57] You know what?
[00:48:57] He's a good guy.
[00:48:58] There's a lot of good to Donald Trump, but there's a lot of concern too.
[00:49:01] And we got to just be realistic.
[00:49:03] One man can't solve everything, but Ronald Reagan had a way of bringing the American people into the mix.
[00:49:07] And the reason that I want to play this is Casey's talking about records requests.
[00:49:12] Becky's talking about research.
[00:49:13] I'm basically the guy on the radio.
[00:49:16] Last hour, we had Richard Mack with us asking us to become part of a CSPOA.org posse.
[00:49:20] We had Maricopa County new sheriff in town, Jerry Sheridan, talking about people getting involved and he's bringing back his posse.
[00:49:28] Well, Ronald Reagan encouraged everybody to get involved as well.
[00:49:31] Back in 1989 in his farewell address.
[00:49:33] And here's what the ending sounded like.
[00:49:35] All great change in America begins at the dinner table.
[00:49:40] So tomorrow night in the kitchen, I hope the talking begins.
[00:49:44] And children, if your parents haven't been teaching you what it means to be an American, let them know and nail them on it.
[00:49:52] That would be a very American thing to do.
[00:49:56] And that's about all I have to say tonight, except for one thing.
[00:50:01] The past few days when I've been at that window upstairs, I've thought a bit of the shining city upon a hill.
[00:50:08] The phrase comes from John Winsrop, who wrote it to describe the America he imagined.
[00:50:13] What he imagined was important because he was an early pilgrim, an early freedom man.
[00:50:18] He journeyed here on what today we call a little wooden boat.
[00:50:22] And like the other pilgrims, he was looking for a home that would be free.
[00:50:28] I've spoken of the shining city all my political life.
[00:50:31] But I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it.
[00:50:36] But in my mind, it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans,
[00:50:42] windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds, living in harmony and peace.
[00:50:48] A city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity.
[00:50:53] And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors.
[00:50:57] And the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here.
[00:51:02] That's how I saw it and see it still.
[00:51:06] And how stands the city on this winter night?
[00:51:09] More prosperous, more secure, and happier than it was eight years ago.
[00:51:14] But more than that, after 200 years, two centuries,
[00:51:19] she still stands strong and true on the granite ridge.
[00:51:22] And her glow is held steady no matter what storm.
[00:51:27] And she's still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom.
[00:51:31] For all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness toward home.
[00:51:37] And we've done our part.
[00:51:39] And as I walk off into the city streets,
[00:51:41] a final word to the men and women of the Reagan Revolution,
[00:51:45] the men and women across America,
[00:51:47] who for eight years did the work that brought America back.
[00:51:52] My friends, we did it.
[00:51:54] We weren't just marking time.
[00:51:56] We made a difference.
[00:51:58] We made the city stronger.
[00:52:00] We made the city freer.
[00:52:02] And we left her in good hands.
[00:52:05] All in all, not bad.
[00:52:08] Not bad at all.
[00:52:10] And so, goodbye.
[00:52:13] God bless you.
[00:52:15] And God bless the United States of America.
[00:52:19] So what I'm not really excited about is a kind of idea about illegal immigration.
[00:52:23] He makes it sound like coming in one and all, and I disagree with that.
[00:52:26] But in general, though, the light on a hill, the morality that Vicki Davis refers to, Casey, I really think is important.
[00:52:35] And the point of, you know, we don't have to agree on everything, but we can look at America as a shining light on a hill.
[00:52:40] Very few countries can you just demand via records requests and get back the pay dirt on the accountability for most things.
[00:52:48] Very few countries even have that ability, Casey.
[00:52:52] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:52:53] And that's why I definitely encourage people to do that.
[00:52:55] That's why I'm trying to talk about this more because it is so important.
[00:52:59] And once you start to do it and you start to see just the results, sometimes they're hit and miss, but ultimately you get the scoop on what's going on in your community.
[00:53:10] So people can follow me just real quickly on Substack.
[00:53:13] It's Casey Whalen, W-H-A-L-E-N, Casey Whalen.substack.com.
[00:53:17] I'm on X, Casey underscore Whalen.
[00:53:19] Casey underscore Whalen, right?
[00:53:21] Yep, correct.
[00:53:23] And then I'm on Rumble.
[00:53:24] That's my video platform, mainly North Idaho Exposed.
[00:53:27] Thanks, Sam.
[00:53:28] Vicki, final word to you and promote who you are and let people know how to get a hold of your incredible work.
[00:53:35] My website is thetechnocratictyranny.com.
[00:53:40] My email address is on that website.
[00:53:44] I also have an older website because I've been doing this a long time.
[00:53:48] And I'm happy to answer questions for people.
[00:53:55] And I really love working with Casey because...
[00:54:00] All right.
[00:54:01] Do you have a final word for America?
[00:54:02] Yeah.
[00:54:04] Yeah.
[00:54:05] active. We've got to save our country. We've got to take our country back, get our national
[00:54:11] sovereignty back. Let's go, ladies and gentlemen. They're both spot on doing a great work, and
[00:54:16] you can, too, get involved in meaningful ways. Get on your knees before Almighty God. Pray,
[00:54:22] figure out what you need to do, then get up and go to work. That's what we're all doing,
[00:54:24] and we invite you to join us. Thanks for being alongside for the ride. I'm Sam Bushman. This is
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