Radio Show Hour 2 – 11/22/2024

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West.

[00:00:18] You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:00:23] All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.

[00:00:26] Sam Bushman, Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com on your radio.

[00:00:30] This is the broadcast for November 22nd in the year of our Lord, 2024, Hour 2 at 2.

[00:00:35] Promoting God, family, country, protecting life, liberty, and property,

[00:00:38] using the Constitution for the United States of America as our guide,

[00:00:41] rejecting revolution unless it's a Jesus revolution.

[00:00:43] Then we're in because we follow the Prince of Peace.

[00:00:46] Breaking down Donald Trump, in my opinion, is losing credibility left and right.

[00:00:50] Yeah. Are we going to really get the JFK files?

[00:00:53] It's the 61st anniversary today of the killing of JFK.

[00:00:57] We should get answers, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:01:00] Matt Gaetz, superficial lamb. I hate to say it, but I think so.

[00:01:04] Now he backs away.

[00:01:07] I guess then we pick Pam Bondi as the attorney general.

[00:01:12] You know, I don't know if she'll be good or not.

[00:01:13] I don't know a whole lot about her.

[00:01:15] How much she's been on the national stage, don't really know.

[00:01:18] But you know what?

[00:01:19] Conservatives are quick to declare that traditional media was dead.

[00:01:22] And I argued against that.

[00:01:24] It isn't dead by any means.

[00:01:25] Now they've lost credibility.

[00:01:26] So their yesteryear news, I get all that.

[00:01:28] The new media is taking center stage.

[00:01:29] I get it.

[00:01:30] That's why they're revamping all their technology and all their networks and everything else.

[00:01:34] Just try to, you know, stop the bleeding.

[00:01:36] I get it.

[00:01:37] But they're not dead.

[00:01:38] Donald Trump is rounding out his second administration with television stars, writes the New York Times.

[00:01:45] Okay?

[00:01:46] Turns out that a lot of the, quote, media guys are moving into the West Wing.

[00:01:50] You know, they all jetted CNN, then went to Fox, or went from Fox to CNN, or then went to the White House,

[00:01:55] then went back to the media, and then back and forth.

[00:01:57] And the revolving door's live and well.

[00:01:59] Rachel Maddow, for example, currently makes $30 million a year.

[00:02:03] Oh, by golly, the network's in trouble.

[00:02:05] We're going to have to reduce her salary.

[00:02:07] So they have this big old press release.

[00:02:09] Hey, we're cutting her salary by $5 million.

[00:02:11] Sounds awesome.

[00:02:12] Sounds like, wow, yeah.

[00:02:14] Until you find out that she's going from $30 million to $25 million.

[00:02:17] Not per contract, but per year, for the next five years.

[00:02:21] So literally, they're not going to pay her $150 million over the next five years.

[00:02:25] They're just going to pay her $125 million over the next five years, you know?

[00:02:29] And I use this example if I make $100,000.

[00:02:31] I mean, I've got eight children, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:02:34] I don't know that I make $100,000, but I'm going to use that as my number to make it simple.

[00:02:39] If I say $25 million, that's her pay cut.

[00:02:45] $2,500,000.

[00:02:46] No, got to add another zero here.

[00:02:48] $25 million divided by $100,000.

[00:02:54] She makes 250 times the amount of money that I make, and I'm not so sure I make $100,000.

[00:02:59] Give or take.

[00:03:00] Depends on the year and all that kind of stuff.

[00:03:02] I'm self-employed for the most part.

[00:03:03] Okay?

[00:03:04] But you look at that and you go, wow.

[00:03:06] She's paying.

[00:03:07] After her pay cut, she makes 250 times what I make.

[00:03:11] Now, who delivers more news to you that you can trust and that's accountable and that's reliable and consistent?

[00:03:17] Sam Bushman or Rachel Maddow?

[00:03:20] Now, I'm not here to play games with who's the biggest star-studded person or any of that kind of stuff.

[00:03:24] I'm just talking to you and saying, wow, there's a ton of people, Dr. Bradley, that would be plenty good that would walk in for a million bucks.

[00:03:32] If you're really trying to save the network, drop her for $30 million and then go ahead and hire somebody for a million or $250,000 or whatever.

[00:03:41] I mean, even if somebody made $250,000, they'd still make two and a half times what I make.

[00:03:44] And I got a day job in addition to the show.

[00:03:48] I look at this and I go, wow.

[00:03:50] Dr. Bradley, your comments.

[00:03:53] You know, there is a lot of hype over this thing and the media, the glitz and glitter, the high price spread, all that kind of stuff.

[00:04:02] But really, if you're making $30 million a year, and I don't know how long she did that, but it was probably an extended period.

[00:04:08] If she hasn't stashed a little cash for her old age or for, you know, just to take up lean times, you know, there's just no crocodile tears for me.

[00:04:19] And I think a lot of people get caught up with, oh, she took a $5 million cut.

[00:04:25] No, the cut she took was minimal in comparison to what, you know, they're paying her now.

[00:04:33] So, yeah.

[00:04:33] Even if she didn't save a penny for the next five years, she's going to get $25 million a year.

[00:04:40] Yeah.

[00:04:41] Yeah.

[00:04:41] And I guess where I was hoping that this was indicating was that there's a recognition that some of this lame brain media that was so whole hog, I mean, they literally were a campaign arm of the Harris campaign.

[00:05:01] And number one, Trump is—

[00:05:25] Really accurate, factual, and honest reporting from you guys.

[00:05:30] And, oh, you're really changing your ways.

[00:05:32] Well, then we'll talk to you.

[00:05:33] But to give them that front door treatment and all that, I mean, it just, to me, seems like he's kind of tripping over some things.

[00:05:43] People can say, well, he's being honorable in bringing in his enemies and setting them down.

[00:05:48] And, you know, you can say, okay, there's something to that.

[00:05:50] But—

[00:05:51] Well, there's something to that if you're willing to at least meet with the good, honest people of the country also.

[00:05:56] Yeah.

[00:05:56] But if you won't meet with the good, honest people of the country, but you will meet with them, something's wrong.

[00:06:01] Right?

[00:06:02] So, for example, they're talking about this big, we're going to go ahead and have this mass deportation.

[00:06:06] And they're talking about the military being involved and everything else.

[00:06:09] And I'm going, well, I'm the leader of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.

[00:06:14] I'm the CEO.

[00:06:15] Richard Mack is our president and founder, a man who beat Bill Clinton over the Supreme Court about state and local autonomy.

[00:06:21] They don't answer to the federal government is the proof in the pudding at the Supreme Court.

[00:06:25] Okay?

[00:06:25] And I want to sit down with Sheriff Richard Mack, myself, Donald Trump, Tom Holman, Sheriff Mark Lamb, well-known sheriff as well.

[00:06:35] And I could probably bring another 50 or how many of our sheriffs we need into the room for the discussion, several border sheriffs, et cetera.

[00:06:41] Okay?

[00:06:42] Scott Williams of Texas, Dabulski, Sheriff Dabulski.

[00:06:46] I mean, I can think of a bunch of them.

[00:06:47] And I'd like to sit down and say, you know, President Trump, I appreciate that you're talking about the military being involved in this.

[00:06:52] And certainly from a national point of view and on the border, there's nothing wrong with having some military presence or involvement from the National Guard or whatever.

[00:06:59] But you've got to be very careful of posse comitatus.

[00:07:02] And what you really need is if you're going to do this in the different 3,000 county jurisdictions in the country, you need state governors involved for the 50 republics.

[00:07:10] You also need the local sheriffs involved.

[00:07:12] And this can be a nationally coordinated effort, but the sheriffs in their local jurisdictions must take the lead on this.

[00:07:19] All right, I want to sit down with President Trump and discuss this, but I can't meet with Trump if my life depended on it.

[00:07:24] Although Mika and Joe and these clowns that have literally called President Donald Trump, literally called him a Hitler.

[00:07:35] I mean, they ask for a meeting, they get on the horn.

[00:07:38] Hey, Donald, it's Joe.

[00:07:40] We're sorry about all that stuff.

[00:07:42] Can we sit down at Mar-a-Lago?

[00:07:44] Within one day, they get an appointment, they sit down.

[00:07:46] Okay, I see a problem with that whole plan, doctor.

[00:07:50] Now you can say, Sam, you're not important enough to be involved.

[00:07:53] Okay, fine, leave me out of it.

[00:07:54] I don't care.

[00:07:54] It isn't about me.

[00:07:55] But the point's still being made.

[00:07:59] Yeah, there needs to be a plan that considers the sovereign issues, the issue of the multiple levels of republics, the strengths of America that have been there from the very beginning.

[00:08:15] Now, see, I hate to even make this analogy, and I don't want it to be taken too far, but it probably will be.

[00:08:23] See, when Hitler came to power and they were worried about the communist threat and everything in Germany in 1933, they started to coordinate centralization of more and more and more and more power.

[00:08:39] You ended up with a national police force, the Gestapo, for example.

[00:08:44] All the brown shirts and all these kind of other idiots that were there at the time.

[00:08:48] But the idea that it's okay to centralize and nationalize police agencies on behalf of something that's happening, there needs to be a consideration that the reason the United States of America is even still here in large part is because of our multiple levels and layers of protection that recognize the federal system.

[00:09:15] That has, well, you just mentioned the Richard Mack victory over the Clinton administration in regards to the Brady Bill.

[00:09:30] The Brady Bill required the sheriffs to perform certain actions.

[00:09:34] The decision on that particular Supreme Court decision, or multitude, it applies across the board.

[00:09:43] The decision was, and rightly so, that the federal government cannot direct the sheriffs to do things.

[00:09:51] It's an overstepping of bounds.

[00:09:53] Well, they can't direct governors to do things.

[00:09:56] You know, they can't direct, this kind of thing recognizes the protections of the, and the limits and bounds and jurisdictional duties.

[00:10:06] And so when this effort to deport, and it needs to happen, I mean, I'm not trying to slow roll at it all, but there needs to be something more than a centralized Gestapo that runs this thing off.

[00:10:20] Well, and that's why I'm saying, hey, look, the 3,000 sheriffs in the country have local jurisdiction.

[00:10:25] And if we're going to, you know, pick people off the street or if we're going to do any of those kind of things, go ahead and skip the break.

[00:10:32] We're going to have to deal with this at a local level.

[00:10:34] And the county sheriff in his jurisdiction, go ahead and skip the break, Liz.

[00:10:39] In his jurisdiction, needs to be in charge of this thing.

[00:10:43] And the governors of each state need to be involved.

[00:10:45] I don't have any problem with a coordinated effort.

[00:10:48] I don't have any problem with the general government being involved.

[00:10:50] The border is, you know, a general government concern.

[00:10:52] So I get the coordination, but you've got to let this be locally led.

[00:10:58] You've got to respect the state's sovereignty.

[00:11:00] You've got to respect jurisdictional boundaries codified by the Supreme Court in Sheriff's Mack's Supreme Court case win.

[00:11:07] And this is why I say that Trump won't sit down with, say, Sheriff Richard Mack.

[00:11:11] Now, I just ask to be there because, well, number one, I'm a syndicated talk show host.

[00:11:15] But number two, I'm the CEO of the organization.

[00:11:18] It seems like I can at least be in the room.

[00:11:20] But, hey, whether I'm there or not isn't important.

[00:11:21] The point is, you won't sit down with a guy that beat Bill Clinton over reigning in general government jurisdiction.

[00:11:29] But yet you want to go ahead and, okay, at some point you're going to meet with Mika and Joe, but you won't meet with, I don't understand it.

[00:11:37] I really don't understand it at all.

[00:11:39] By the way, just so you know, late breaking news, a New York judge cancels Trump's sentencing.

[00:11:44] So, again, every case is going away.

[00:11:47] And I'm not saying the cases should stand.

[00:11:48] I think they're clown shows.

[00:11:50] But there you have it, doctor.

[00:11:53] Well, Sam, the thing is that there is a kind of a feeling right now.

[00:12:00] Oh, yeah, Trump landslide.

[00:12:02] Okay.

[00:12:02] Okay.

[00:12:03] Okay.

[00:12:04] Well, Hitler got elected also, and he started to consolidate power at a central location.

[00:12:11] That's the antithesis of the American way.

[00:12:14] And the American way recognizes jurisdictional boundaries.

[00:12:20] And they could get into – these are real-world problems that they're going to run into when they start to round up the illegals.

[00:12:28] They really are.

[00:12:29] I mean, we've got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of criminals, murderers, drugs, rapists.

[00:12:37] I'm not saying everybody that came across the border is in that category, but we have hundreds of thousands that are.

[00:12:44] And the local sheriffs, by the way, are the ones that would have a handle on the ground of what's really going on in their communities,

[00:12:49] who the troublemakers are, who the problems are, who the good people are.

[00:12:53] Okay.

[00:12:54] They should know that if they've been involved in community policing and involved on the ground in their jurisdictions.

[00:12:58] Nobody would know better than they would, right?

[00:13:00] Yeah.

[00:13:01] And if you come in with a central force, you know, and I'm overpainting this picture,

[00:13:06] or you're going to drive down the streets in tanks and MRAPs and everything like that, knocking on doors,

[00:13:13] that's going to be a big mistake.

[00:13:14] You're going to overstep the limits and bounds of the general government's authority.

[00:13:21] So there needs to be, and I'm not saying it's a co-opting of all of the sheriffs and local police agencies,

[00:13:29] because if they just become an arm of the general government, suddenly we've got a, you know,

[00:13:37] something that verges on Amendment 3 violation where you're having, you know, the troops live among you, you know.

[00:13:43] So there's some fine, people got to recognize that there should be some clearly defined boundaries

[00:13:52] that the nuances have got to be walked through without just a bulldozer running over everybody.

[00:13:59] I mean, it just, we will lose this republic, whether it's by a Republican leading the national government

[00:14:06] that says we've got to do this in the interest of national security, we're going to basically, you know,

[00:14:12] deputize posse comitatus, everybody, and we're going to put the federal government in

[00:14:17] and we're going to come through and do this with a bull in a china closet running things.

[00:14:23] So there are fine nuances.

[00:14:25] And honestly, I don't claim, I wouldn't claim, I cannot claim to have got my arms all around it,

[00:14:33] because it's a big, it's a conundrum.

[00:14:35] But I can see this, though, we need the sheriffs, we need the governors,

[00:14:38] we need the local jurisdictions in charge of the carrying out of anything.

[00:14:43] I don't want MRAPs on the streets, I don't want the military, I want posse comitatus.

[00:14:47] Again, if you want to put some military on the border, because you say we've got hard cartels

[00:14:51] we've got to deal with, okay, I get it.

[00:14:53] But, you know, within the populace, you don't put military, you don't put troops,

[00:14:56] you don't do that kind of stuff.

[00:15:03] Conventional Discussion Meeting to say, all right, here are the players.

[00:15:06] Who's in charge?

[00:15:07] The sheriff and his jurisdiction.

[00:15:09] Who backs up the sheriff?

[00:15:10] The governor in the state that they're in.

[00:15:12] Because, hey, these illegals are going to cross county lines.

[00:15:14] We get it.

[00:15:15] Okay, but you've got to, and then the general government can provide the support

[00:15:18] and provide the border and provide, okay, and we're going to have a coordinated effort.

[00:15:22] We're going to lock down the border.

[00:15:23] We're not going to drive down the street with tanks.

[00:15:25] We're going to basically look at a local county and say, hey, who are the troublemakers?

[00:15:29] Who are the criminals?

[00:15:30] How do we discover them?

[00:15:31] How do we, okay, and you can put together ways that we can say, look, here's an illegal list.

[00:15:36] Now let's take that illegal list and appropriately decide who's here that shouldn't be here.

[00:15:41] I mean, they all should go in a legal sense, but let's prioritize this.

[00:15:45] How do we find out the rapists and who's committed a crime since they got here?

[00:15:50] Who's got a rap sheet?

[00:15:51] How do we vet some of these people internationally?

[00:15:54] Mexico has already indicated that they'll take a lot of people back.

[00:15:58] Okay, so we know we can vet these countries and say, look, we're going to use the stick

[00:16:02] and the carrot a little bit here.

[00:16:03] You know what?

[00:16:04] Foreign aid is going to go away if you don't start to, you know, tell us who these people

[00:16:07] are.

[00:16:08] And it would be very easy to identify the hardened criminals and start there county by county.

[00:16:13] You'd have 3,000 sheriffs and 3,000 sheriff's offices with deputies and the whole infrastructure

[00:16:17] already in place who has jurisdictional authority.

[00:16:20] The chief executive in the county is the sheriff.

[00:16:23] The chief executive of the state is the state governor.

[00:16:26] Okay?

[00:16:26] And so the general government needs to basically play third fiddle to that.

[00:16:30] Now, they can take a harder stance on the border itself, but in the interior of the country,

[00:16:34] we need to be really careful here.

[00:16:36] I'm the only one that I can see speaking nobly, boldly, clearly, independently about this,

[00:16:40] doctor.

[00:16:41] I don't hear anybody speaking up like I am about this and laying this out in a cogent way.

[00:16:46] I, you know, it's like I say, I, you know, I've thought a lot about this stuff and I'm

[00:16:51] not so sure that there's a really, shall I say, safe path for the, for the government

[00:16:59] to do this thing because there are, I mean, this posse comitatus thing, but let me just

[00:17:05] give you an order of magnitude issue.

[00:17:07] Let's say that the 30 million illegals that are here were evenly distributed across all

[00:17:13] the counties in America.

[00:17:15] And of course, these are assumptions that you just can't hold water with.

[00:17:18] But if each, if each sheriff, those 3,000 sheriffs picked up 10,000 illegals, that's the

[00:17:29] order of magnitude that we're talking about.

[00:17:32] So there's 10,000 illegals here for every sheriff.

[00:17:36] Now let's say there's, there's 10 deputies in each, and I don't know what the number is,

[00:17:41] but let's say there's 10 deputies.

[00:17:43] That means that each deputy will be picking up a thousand of these illegals.

[00:17:50] Well, and that's exactly why I'm coming back and saying you've got to build your list.

[00:17:55] You don't need to be out in the streets with MRAPs.

[00:17:56] You don't need the military to get all crazy.

[00:17:58] You need to stop the border leaking like a sieve.

[00:18:00] You need to put policies in place that say, listen, if you don't leave and we have to round

[00:18:05] you up, it's not going to go well for you for the following, you know, reasons and issues.

[00:18:09] So you can self-deport.

[00:18:11] So a lot of it can happen through policy and through, you know, hey, if you are illegal,

[00:18:15] but your family's here, or if you've committed crimes and your family's here and they haven't

[00:18:19] committed crimes, do your family a favor, leave them alone and you get the heck out of

[00:18:22] the country.

[00:18:23] A lot can self-deport based on that idea.

[00:18:25] You can protect your family by leaving if you're a criminal.

[00:18:27] If your daughter is a good girl, but you're the bad guy, you get out of here and you're

[00:18:30] okay.

[00:18:31] And then you can start to say, hey, that 10,000 people in my given County, I know this can't

[00:18:35] scale on the, but on the average, it can scale proportionately.

[00:18:39] And out of that 10,000, we're going to identify, say 300 that are the most hardened criminals.

[00:18:45] We can do that and start there.

[00:18:47] We don't have to literally just deport everybody out of that 30 million.

[00:18:50] Let's say we got, oh, I don't know, 1 million of the worst, 2 million of the worst out

[00:18:55] of the country.

[00:18:56] Now, I'm not saying that needs to be the end of the discussion.

[00:18:58] We need to craft appropriate policies going forward beyond that.

[00:19:01] But look, you could do that fairly easily.

[00:19:04] I mean, you could get, if you had 10 people in every county, 3,000 counties, that's 30,000

[00:19:11] people you could have gone literally in a day, fairly easily, the most hardened of criminals.

[00:19:16] And it would not be that hard to vet who they are.

[00:19:19] I really don't believe that it would be that difficult.

[00:19:21] And so that's how I would start with this kind of thing, doctor.

[00:19:24] And I would make sure that it's locally led, locally controlled, locally.

[00:19:27] If you're not very careful, what you'll end up doing is changing the whole affairs of the

[00:19:31] nation on this supposed, you know, we're going to pave the road to hell with good intentions

[00:19:35] idea.

[00:19:36] Okay.

[00:19:37] You better be very careful here because you're going to blur all checks and balances in America

[00:19:41] on this altar if you're not very careful indeed.

[00:19:43] And that's why I'm speaking out so boldly about it and providing some guidance here.

[00:19:48] What do you think of the guidance I'm providing?

[00:19:49] Well, I think that it certainly will open the discussion and you have some very wise points

[00:19:56] in it.

[00:19:56] The fact of the matter is we could completely change the culture of America with the approach

[00:20:02] on this thing.

[00:20:04] Now, Eisenhower did a big deport thing back in the 50s and the vast majority of the people

[00:20:10] self-deported.

[00:20:10] They got on buses and left.

[00:20:12] Okay.

[00:20:13] You know, they knew he was serious and this was going to be something that, you know, they

[00:20:16] weren't going to have a good outcome on.

[00:20:18] And, you know, some of the things that you need to say, do you self-deport?

[00:20:21] You can apply.

[00:20:22] We will then consider your immigration.

[00:20:25] But if you don't self-deport, we end up deporting you.

[00:20:27] You can never, ever, not ever, not once in your lifetime, come back in the United States.

[00:20:33] I mean, see, there could be incentives in there.

[00:20:35] We don't want to split up families, but you can say, listen, if your wife and daughter

[00:20:38] are here and they've committed no crimes, but you'll deport, self-deport, we can get evidence

[00:20:42] of that and, you know, you're gone.

[00:20:44] Hey, there's things that we can do to be gentle to them.

[00:20:47] Well, the fact is, and I hear your discussion on that too, but you know, criminals are criminals.

[00:20:55] They're rare in their desire to do anything honorable or wise or logical.

[00:21:02] I mean, look at this guy that went down and murdered this girl and just got life sentence.

[00:21:07] I mean, he was in New York and he had them buy him a ticket to Georgia, you know?

[00:21:12] And it's like, okay, I'm just moving my modus operandi to another area where I can continue

[00:21:19] my nefarious ways.

[00:21:20] So most of these criminals are not going to say, oh, oh, presto chango, King's X, I'm

[00:21:28] out of here.

[00:21:29] And we're hoping for a good buy-in.

[00:21:30] No, but by a slice at a time, do you cut the ham?

[00:21:33] You know, you say, hey, if you care about your families, then this.

[00:21:36] If you, you know, this, you can never come into the country again if we have to deport

[00:21:40] you.

[00:21:40] We can, there's all kinds of ways in a slice at a time.

[00:21:44] Do we make a difference?

[00:21:45] You know, by 10 different guidelines, do we deal with a bunch of them?

[00:21:48] Then we, hey, the most hardened among them, we're going to have to hunt down.

[00:21:51] Okay.

[00:21:52] I get that.

[00:21:52] But there's ways to do that.

[00:21:54] You have bail bondsmen right now too, that are in the private sector that do this for a

[00:21:57] living and they're good at it, doctor.

[00:21:59] And you can rely on a lot of those people to take care of business too.

[00:22:02] You know, they, they're into the underbelly world a lot too, but, but here's one of my

[00:22:08] big concerns.

[00:22:10] I do not want to see the, the ham get sliced so thin, you know, you got a turkey dinner

[00:22:15] and a ham dinner and coming up here and Thanksgiving pretty soon, but I don't want to see this.

[00:22:21] The slice happened so thinly.

[00:22:23] Oh, we got 62,000 out of them.

[00:22:26] We're done or whatever.

[00:22:27] I picked a number.

[00:22:29] Well, of course not.

[00:22:29] Yeah, you're right.

[00:22:30] We got to, but how do you make it holistic enough?

[00:22:34] How do you not harm innocent people?

[00:22:36] How do you not destroy families?

[00:22:37] How do you separate, you know, real criminals from people that I get that they shouldn't

[00:22:41] be here.

[00:22:42] But you know what?

[00:22:44] The DACA people are, for example, some of the most, in my opinion, least problematic

[00:22:49] people.

[00:22:50] If you say, okay, you were brought here as a kid.

[00:22:52] It's not your fault.

[00:22:52] This is all, you know, you were raised here and you're a productive member of society.

[00:22:56] Now, should you be here?

[00:22:57] No, you shouldn't, but you are, you are.

[00:22:59] Okay.

[00:23:00] That's a fact.

[00:23:00] How do we deal with that compared to, say, the hardened criminal that's a rapist and

[00:23:04] left the jail from their other country to come here?

[00:23:08] Okay.

[00:23:08] The two aren't even close to equivalent.

[00:23:09] And we've got to be smart enough to not approach amnesty, but at the same time, acknowledge

[00:23:15] these mass differences and act accordingly as well.

[00:23:18] Right?

[00:23:18] Right.

[00:23:48] We do.

[00:23:48] The South.

[00:23:49] No, the South was treated post-Civil War as a conquered nation with military commissions

[00:23:56] running things.

[00:23:57] Satanically, wrongfully so, I might chime in.

[00:24:00] And we cannot go back to that because we have an emergency on our hands and it is a big

[00:24:06] problem.

[00:24:06] But if we go back to that, we've destroyed what's good too.

[00:24:10] So we can't make that happen.

[00:24:11] You got that right.

[00:24:11] Anyway, we got to move forward with topics.

[00:24:13] There's so many to cover.

[00:24:15] However, as I said, breaking news, NY Judge cancels Trump sentencing in New York.

[00:24:22] So there you have that.

[00:24:23] When we get back, I want to talk about listener Zach.

[00:24:25] He made a comment about something that we talked about.

[00:24:27] I want to bring you up to speed on it.

[00:24:29] It's kind of cool.

[00:24:30] Then we'll get into the RFKJR reality check and the former, well, we're going to talk about

[00:24:38] Robert Redfield and vaccines.

[00:24:40] Okay?

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[00:26:00] It appears that North Korea is turning to an increasingly close ally to satisfy its crude

[00:26:05] oil fix.

[00:26:06] For the past eight months, researchers have tracked North Korean tankers visiting an oil

[00:26:12] terminal in Russia's Far East using satellite images.

[00:26:16] Countries are banned from selling oil to North Korea, except in small quantities, as part

[00:26:21] of sanctions to stop it developing nuclear weapons.

[00:26:24] But with Kim Jong-un sending artillery, and now troops, to Russia, experts have told the

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[00:26:36] of stable supply it hasn't had since the sanctions were introduced in 2017.

[00:26:41] The BBC's Gene McKenzie.

[00:26:43] A top South Korean official says Russia has supplied air defense missiles to North Korea

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[00:26:49] The US, South Korea, and others say North Korea has sent more than 10,000 troops to Russia

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[00:27:04] The NFL has issued a security alert to players following recent burglaries involving the homes

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[00:27:16] Now, the league says the homes of pro athletes all across several sports have become, quote,

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[00:27:26] Players have been told to take precautions and implement home security measures to reduce

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[00:27:33] Some of the burglary groups have conducted extensive surveillance on their targets.

[00:27:38] Jason Walker reporting.

[00:27:40] 61 years ago today, President Kennedy assassinated in Dallas.

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[00:30:23] All right, happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.

[00:30:26] Sam Bushman, Dr. Scott Bradley, riding shotgun on the show today.

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[00:30:54] Last, I'm going to do a quick recap of some shows that we did here recently.

[00:30:58] Yesterday, we had Eldon Stahl with us.

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[00:31:07] Also, the newamerican.com, incredible magazine, the newamerican.com.

[00:31:11] Anyway, our dear friend Eldon Stahl doing a phenomenal job there.

[00:31:15] And we also had on our guest, Heath Perkins is his name.

[00:31:21] Heath Perkins.

[00:31:22] And he's, over the past 50 years, been working with the folks over at Rest, Quint, and Gift, is what I call it.

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[00:31:38] You've got a friend in the Honest Money business.

[00:31:41] Anyway, we talked about the Honest Money Report.

[00:31:42] Gold, $2,665.10.

[00:31:48] Silver, $30.93.

[00:31:52] And I asked a question on the broadcast yesterday with Heath and Eldon.

[00:31:57] I said, hey, you know what?

[00:31:59] When do we celebrate National Honest Money Day?

[00:32:02] Because, man, I look at it and I go, it just seems like every day we celebrate all these weird days.

[00:32:09] You know, gay and lesbian, transgender month, black history month, and all these kind of things.

[00:32:14] And I don't have any problem with them celebrating.

[00:32:18] Don't misunderstand me.

[00:32:20] But I do wonder, when are we going to have National Honest Money Day?

[00:32:25] And tell the truth about money.

[00:32:27] It seems like we have an opportunity for education that we just don't take, right?

[00:32:31] Anyway, so I asked different people what day we should take.

[00:32:34] I'm here, listen.

[00:32:35] And listener Zach chimed in.

[00:32:37] And listener Zach said, hey, Sam, I think St. Patrick's Day should be National Honest Money Day.

[00:32:44] Why?

[00:32:46] So we can enjoy our real pot of gold.

[00:32:51] I love it.

[00:32:52] Great work.

[00:32:54] Anyway, so I'm saying, when are we going to have National Honest Money Day?

[00:32:56] And what day should that be, Dr. Bradley?

[00:32:59] And listener Zach said, hey, Sam, I think it ought to be St. Patty's Day because we can enjoy our real pot of gold.

[00:33:07] What do you think of that?

[00:33:08] Well, is your buddy Irish?

[00:33:11] I don't know.

[00:33:13] Anyway, what day would we have National Honest Money Day if you were to pick a day for it?

[00:33:16] When would it be?

[00:33:17] Well, I personally, I've never even thought about this before.

[00:33:22] But I think the 4th of July is another good time to do that because we would declare ourselves independent.

[00:33:27] Yeah, the problem is you don't want to blur the days, though.

[00:33:28] You want to get another day to highlight something specific, right?

[00:33:31] Okay.

[00:33:31] Pick my birthday.

[00:33:33] I don't know.

[00:33:33] But the fact of the matter is Constitution Day could be.

[00:33:37] I mean, you know, the day it was signed or the day it was ratified.

[00:33:39] I mean, or the day of George Washington.

[00:33:42] But if you're not careful, you kind of eclipse the day or kind of, you know.

[00:33:47] Well, yeah, but who wants to eclipse the leprechaun day for crying out loud?

[00:33:51] I mean, you know, come on.

[00:33:53] Yeah, I'd rather do that than some of the other days.

[00:33:56] But yeah.

[00:33:57] It certainly shouldn't be Cinco de Mayo.

[00:33:59] You know, but I, you know, really, I don't know.

[00:34:06] By the way, Elon Musk and Ramaswamy have been given a deadline of the 250th anniversary of signing the Constitution.

[00:34:20] So July 4th in 2026 to have their, you know, government efficiency recommendations in.

[00:34:30] Yeah.

[00:34:30] I think you picked that.

[00:34:31] And I appreciate that.

[00:34:32] Do you think it's really going to be a government agency that's outside of government?

[00:34:35] That's not really an agency that really starts and ends and shuts down?

[00:34:38] Or is it all?

[00:34:39] We always they always say they're going to shut it down later, right?

[00:34:43] Well, it's always kick the can down the road.

[00:34:45] There's no question about that.

[00:34:46] Now, if they give a report that is honest and honorable and straightforward and transparent and all that kind of stuff,

[00:34:53] it'll be interesting to see how it's received.

[00:34:55] Well, if they take a whole year just to generate a report, we've already lost our advantage, though.

[00:34:59] We've got to take action.

[00:35:00] The report should be of all they've accomplished.

[00:35:02] Well, that's that's true.

[00:35:04] But the day that Trump has targeted them to have everything kind of not what does everything mean?

[00:35:09] Wrapped up, right.

[00:35:11] Is it going to be wrapped up with their got the legislation's all done?

[00:35:14] Or does it mean they're going to announce that we're cutting the Department of Education?

[00:35:19] I mean, you know, that's that's the problem is that, you know, Trump's administration will be aged fairly much by then.

[00:35:28] And it might give new vigor to it if it really comes out with something that's really got some merit.

[00:35:34] I mean, it could be something that would be rather exciting.

[00:35:39] I mean, man, it's possible.

[00:35:40] Now, Musk and Ramaswamy are calling for the United States to have an in-office work week.

[00:35:48] Noah Weiland with the article.

[00:35:51] And it's kind of interesting because they're basically saying, hey, we want to we want to force everybody to come into the office.

[00:35:57] Currently, the U.S. has, just so you know,

[00:36:00] approximately 2.3 million civilian workers, you know, currently working for the government or whatever.

[00:36:07] Yeah, that's a federal government employee.

[00:36:10] Yeah.

[00:36:10] Make them all come into the office.

[00:36:12] And I don't really see the advantage to that.

[00:36:13] I think a lot of them working from home.

[00:36:15] I mean, how do you make them come into the office and then say we're going to push all the offices out to the states?

[00:36:20] If that's the case, just let them work from home.

[00:36:21] I don't have a problem with I mean, working from home is a real cost savings.

[00:36:26] You know, now, sure, you got to have these people working.

[00:36:28] I get all that.

[00:36:29] But anyway, I don't know.

[00:36:30] I just some of these plans.

[00:36:32] You've got billionaires in charge of it all.

[00:36:33] And how close to the ground are they really?

[00:36:35] I don't know.

[00:36:36] I'm starting to wonder.

[00:36:37] Well, some of the real world issues of an in-office day, let's say that traditionally they've worked out of their home or something, you know, I mean, whatever their arrangement is.

[00:36:47] And suddenly everybody's got to come in and have a desk to sit at in an office, a bricks and mortar building with telephones and lights and, you know, everything that's associated with that.

[00:36:57] The infrastructure costs.

[00:36:59] You're adding expense, not cutting expense.

[00:37:01] Yeah, exactly.

[00:37:02] Now, my historical experience has been, and I don't know if this is anything except for a personal experience, but my personal experience has been that those that work from home generally put more hours in and really are on the job.

[00:37:20] Yeah, so let's cut their hours and their work ethic and let's, you know, environmentally just clog the roads with people traveling everywhere.

[00:37:27] And then let's go ahead and get less productivity out of them and let's increase the costs.

[00:37:31] That's what I'm talking about.

[00:37:32] I don't see they're off to a good start.

[00:37:34] What they're hoping is that people will riot and leave if they, you know, want to work from home and they won't go into the office.

[00:37:38] They're hoping to dwindle the staff that way.

[00:37:41] But I just think they're going about it all wrong already in my mind.

[00:37:45] Yeah, I think that that one's got to be thought through a little bit better.

[00:37:49] And then you look what happened in 2020 where they basically sent everybody home and put them in lockdown, you know, house arrest kind of thing.

[00:37:58] And this is kind of, you know, the last four, four and a half years has been a modus operandi for all of these people.

[00:38:05] And suddenly it's going to be flipped.

[00:38:07] They may have let some of their office space go.

[00:38:09] I mean, they may be saving rent.

[00:38:11] I don't know.

[00:38:13] But I agree.

[00:38:14] They need to think it through.

[00:38:15] I mean, this stuff on face, we've just talked about it for about two minutes maybe.

[00:38:21] And we're already scratching our heads over it.

[00:38:24] So things have got to be thought through pretty hard, it would seem to me.

[00:38:27] Well, and in my opinion, people working from home, that's a great solution.

[00:38:30] You know, what better way than to keep them with their families?

[00:38:33] And, you know, there's ways.

[00:38:34] You don't have to monitor everybody by every hour.

[00:38:36] Okay, you don't need to babysit people's time by the hour.

[00:38:39] All you've got to do is have projects, project managers and people that can, you know, assess tasks and assign tasks.

[00:38:44] And, you know, move projects from milestone to milestone.

[00:38:47] You can look at the output.

[00:38:48] I've got a guy that works for me and I don't even know where he lives, okay?

[00:38:51] But all I'm telling you is he works great and he's producing videos for me and editing videos.

[00:38:57] And all I've got to know is how many hours I'm paying him and how many videos he's producing.

[00:39:00] And I can tell you if it's on the average or appropriate or not.

[00:39:03] And I don't need to babysit him other than that.

[00:39:05] Is his output good?

[00:39:06] And if it is, I'm fine, right?

[00:39:07] Yeah, if you look at a results-based kind of thing, you can measure it that way.

[00:39:14] Now, I'm going to make a statement here that it's way, you know, it's just a slap shot.

[00:39:19] But if the truth be known of these two and a quarter million, whatever it is, federal employees,

[00:39:25] if you said how many people work, you know, in the federal government,

[00:39:30] my smart alec answer would be about half of them.

[00:39:33] I mean, that's kind of, that's a slap shot, okay?

[00:39:37] But you're right, though.

[00:39:38] About half of them.

[00:39:39] It's truly that a lot of times 50% of the people are the real doers and movers and shakers

[00:39:43] and the output producers and the rest are kind of dead weight.

[00:39:46] There's truth to all that.

[00:39:48] Yeah, having worked in some very, very large organizations that were scattered all across the nation,

[00:39:55] there are people that probably carry their coffee mug from one coffee break to the next,

[00:40:01] going around talking at people's desks and, you know, leaning against the wall.

[00:40:06] And there's way more of that out there than needs to be.

[00:40:10] I think that deadwood, the true productivity thing.

[00:40:14] And there's a lot of people that probably have a, their job description is something that could be done in about four days a month.

[00:40:23] You know, I mean, these kinds of things where the system becomes bloated and everything,

[00:40:30] that's, that's one of the things I think they ought to focus on.

[00:40:33] And, and if my slap shot, half of the people are working, well, that would mean we could cut our employee employment situation in half.

[00:40:41] Yeah, and if you did that, you got rid of a million employees, you'd get rid of about $50 million that they all got paid on the average of about 50 grand.

[00:40:47] Go ahead and skip the break.

[00:40:49] We've got too much to talk about is the problem here, but I want to celebrate National Honest Money Day.

[00:40:54] I'll tell you that right now and go back to Honest Money.

[00:40:56] Until they get that done, it's going to be very difficult to make any progress on anything, in my humble opinion.

[00:41:02] That doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

[00:41:03] But I think that Vivek and Elon are on a bad trajectory with what they're proposing now.

[00:41:08] I just don't think they're, they're being wise or thinking about it properly at all, really.

[00:41:12] That's my opinion to which I'm entitled.

[00:41:13] By the way, former CDC director, Dr. Robert Redfield is in the news now.

[00:41:20] And he's blatantly suggesting that COVID-19 may have originated in a Chapel Hill, North Carolina lab.

[00:41:28] We mentioned this early on in the pandemic, Dr. Patrick Houck reporting this, AmericanLiberty.News with the piece.

[00:41:36] As Redfield speculated, that COVID-19 may have been developed as part of the, quote, U.S. government's national biodefense strategy.

[00:41:49] He suggested that the pathogen, possibly engineered for defense purposes, might have gone off the rails there.

[00:41:58] And he basically goes on, talks about this in some big interviews and everything like that.

[00:42:05] It may have inadvertently triggered a global pandemic.

[00:42:10] There's no question in my mind, said Redfield, that it was a, quote, engineered virus, Redfield said, during the, quote, 90-minute discussion,

[00:42:21] while emphasizing the need for further investigation into its origins.

[00:42:28] Where's the mainstream press when you need them?

[00:42:31] And, you know, he's being attacked relentlessly for this stance, but he's convinced.

[00:42:34] He says, listen, prove me wrong.

[00:42:37] But if you really study it, you find out that what he has to say is true.

[00:42:40] So it might have been leaked from China, but it was created here, Dr. Bradley.

[00:42:47] Well, here's the deal, Sam.

[00:42:49] First of all, I need to ask people to think in their own mind.

[00:42:52] How did Sam and I know in March of 2020 it came out of North Carolina?

[00:42:57] I mean, you know.

[00:42:58] We highlighted that then, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:43:00] We did.

[00:43:00] I mean, this is four and a half years ago, kids.

[00:43:03] And we were saying that, that it was originated then.

[00:43:07] Now, this Redfield guy, he uses all sorts of plausible deniability words in there, weasel words, I call them.

[00:43:13] May have possibly.

[00:43:15] So he's doing things.

[00:43:16] He's not making a direct accusation.

[00:43:18] That's why it says he speculated this and that.

[00:43:19] Hey, let's just deal with hard evidence and facts.

[00:43:21] Let's subpoena the evidence.

[00:43:22] Let's go to court.

[00:43:23] Let's do this.

[00:43:24] Let's transparently get to the bottom of this sucker, and let's do it fast.

[00:43:28] Well, it's Bravo Sierra.

[00:43:30] The whole thing is Bravo Sierra.

[00:43:32] You and I talked about this in March of 2020.

[00:43:35] Came out of North Carolina University.

[00:43:37] It was offloaded as it became too hot to handle, and the funding went with it to China, to Wuhan.

[00:43:45] And so this kind of thing was stuff we were talking about four and a half years ago, and we were told we're idiots about this thing.

[00:43:51] But here's an insider's insider that's making a plausible deniable report about this because he doesn't want to leave his butt hanging out too much.

[00:44:00] But the fact of the matter is, this is something that we could get to the bottom of.

[00:44:05] Now, I understand Rand Paul is probably going to be in a chairman position in the Senate where he could, and he said he wants to get to the bottom of the COVID, I call it a COVID con.

[00:44:19] And I would like to have subpoenas.

[00:44:22] I would like to have indictments.

[00:44:24] I would like to have convictions.

[00:44:27] And if Dr. Fauci ended up after due process in prison the rest of his life, I would have a little bit of smug satisfaction about that.

[00:44:35] You know, and all of the other individuals that really rolled Trump.

[00:44:41] I mean, Trump took bad advice, bad on him, but these were people that basically took this nation by the nose and took it to ground.

[00:44:50] And the whole world, literally.

[00:44:52] And this COVID con led to the charade of this jab, which has killed millions of people around the world.

[00:45:02] And maybe, I don't know, I'll pick a number, half a million people in the United States.

[00:45:06] We'd lost twice as many people.

[00:45:08] I mean, again, in round numbers.

[00:45:10] Now, this thing, twice as many Americans that died in World War II.

[00:45:15] I mean, this is the greatest slaughter of people that perhaps has ever happened by a man-caused kind of program.

[00:45:25] Started unconstitutionally, illegally, stupidly in a university in the United States.

[00:45:33] Offshored it because it became too hot to handle and it got released purposely or by accident.

[00:45:39] I don't know.

[00:45:40] But I think we can get to the bottom of it if we will.

[00:45:43] And Rand Paul may be a place to start.

[00:45:45] But, man, I'd like to see tons of subpoenas.

[00:45:49] I would like to see under oath testimony.

[00:45:52] I would like to see the back rooms of the contracts that were written on this thing.

[00:45:57] I would like to see indictments come out of this, convictions come out of this.

[00:46:01] Let's use the American way, due process.

[00:46:04] Let's take it to court.

[00:46:05] Let's take it to ground.

[00:46:06] Let's do it in the courts where the truth can be peeled back a line upon line.

[00:46:12] I think that this needs to be, you know, we've called it before, a Nuremberg 2, you know, 2.0, whatever,

[00:46:20] where people need to say never again.

[00:46:24] This will never happen again.

[00:46:26] And, you know, this thing about informed consent that came out of the rules of Nuremberg that says that if you're going to have an experiment run on you,

[00:46:38] millions, hundreds of millions of Americans got that jab without informed consent.

[00:46:43] There are people that died, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands.

[00:46:48] There are millions that have lifelong debilities because of it, everything from autoimmune diseases and infertility and heart problems,

[00:46:58] you know, myocarditis and all that kind of good stuff.

[00:47:00] The idea that they've got neuromuscular problems.

[00:47:04] This stuff was perpetrated by criminals.

[00:47:09] And I think we need to get to the bottom of it.

[00:47:12] So do I make myself clear, Sam?

[00:47:14] Yes, sir.

[00:47:15] And I couldn't agree more.

[00:47:17] And I would say that's kind of really the discussion point about this is that the only thing I disagree really with Robert Redford,

[00:47:24] he's saying, hey, this is very possible.

[00:47:25] This is likely my evidence shows this.

[00:47:27] We need to investigate more.

[00:47:28] I agree with him.

[00:47:29] I agree with Dr. Bradley that he's kind of chewing on his tongue.

[00:47:32] He's kind of backing away from it.

[00:47:33] So here's what he says.

[00:47:34] They may have inadvertently, you know, kind of released this or done this or whatever words you want to use.

[00:47:44] And I don't really see the inadvertent part, doctor.

[00:47:47] And why do I say this was intentional?

[00:47:49] And why do I say it was not inadvertent?

[00:47:50] Because everything they did when we tried to get to the bottom of it, like save people's lives and do ivermectin or, you know, try to trace the origins.

[00:47:57] You know, we are like, oh, my gosh, China's all vague on this.

[00:48:00] China won't get to the bottom of it and let us know what's happening.

[00:48:03] And, well, maybe China was just not wanting to out the United States in this discussion.

[00:48:08] Okay, we brought this up early.

[00:48:09] We could have looked at home and said, hey, it leaked from our labs and been honest about it or whatever.

[00:48:14] But everything we did added to the global pandemic.

[00:48:19] All right?

[00:48:20] It didn't reduce it or, okay.

[00:48:23] So when he says that it was inadvertent, an engineered virus.

[00:48:29] Okay, that wasn't inadvertent.

[00:48:31] And how about the leakage of it?

[00:48:32] Well, maybe it was inadvertent by the United States.

[00:48:34] I don't know.

[00:48:36] But I don't believe it was inadvertent by somebody.

[00:48:39] Because if so, why would they not do the right thing?

[00:48:42] In other words, if it really happened, like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe this happened.

[00:48:45] We won't admit to it.

[00:48:46] But they would do everything they could to keep people alive.

[00:48:48] They literally implemented a whole chain of death culture.

[00:48:52] A whole chain of against science actions all the way from the top, wherever that be, to the average nurse who was duped and forced into.

[00:49:03] And if they stood up and said, no, we don't want to do this or this is wrong or we can't do this.

[00:49:06] They were shunned and belittled and destroyed.

[00:49:08] Anybody that spoke out about the truth and said, hey, even me, they say, Sam Bushman, you know, you took horse poop.

[00:49:16] You're a bad guy.

[00:49:16] You took ivermectin.

[00:49:17] How dare you?

[00:49:18] And I'm saying, ivermectin saved my life, people.

[00:49:21] I don't care what you say.

[00:49:22] Joe Rogan's saying the same thing.

[00:49:23] He's as liberal as they get and I'm as conservative as they get.

[00:49:25] But we both agree ivermectin saved our lives.

[00:49:29] And instead of admitting and going, yeah, you know what, good point.

[00:49:31] They're going, there's no evidence, Sam.

[00:49:34] You don't have any evidence at all.

[00:49:35] What are you talking about?

[00:49:36] You're a clown.

[00:49:37] And they attacked me relentlessly and others.

[00:49:40] You don't do that if it was an inadvertent mistake.

[00:49:43] You don't capitalize it and add insult to injury, doctor.

[00:49:47] Well, what, you know, I was deplatformed and we lost, you know, thousands literally of videos that we had made.

[00:49:53] And it was done, you know, because they did not want the message out.

[00:49:58] Now, I gave a talk two and a half years ago.

[00:50:01] It's still out there, I'm pretty sure, on the Internet.

[00:50:03] I don't have it on my side.

[00:50:05] I called it the Fauci facade.

[00:50:07] What happened to Dr. Scott Bradley?

[00:50:09] And I look at it from a global, from a national, from a state, and from my own personal experience.

[00:50:14] Okay, and so it's probably an hour and a half, hour and a half, 45, I don't know, somewhere in their length of talk.

[00:50:22] People find it.

[00:50:23] It's still generating input on, you know, people talk about it.

[00:50:28] But at any rate, here's why I think it was not an inadvertent anything.

[00:50:33] It dovetailed so perfectly into what they planned.

[00:50:36] They had a scenario that they played out in October of 2019 about an upcoming pandemic.

[00:50:44] The World Economic Forum, and those guys played into this thing about the Great Reset.

[00:50:49] This stuff with the United Nations and the WHO and everything else.

[00:50:53] This was all institutions.

[00:50:55] I believe churches.

[00:50:56] I believe governments.

[00:50:58] I believe that they had spokespeople chosen and put in place all in advance of this thing.

[00:51:04] And when it came out, it was just way too smooth and too orchestrated.

[00:51:09] The mainstream media, you could listen on your local radio station.

[00:51:15] And every 15 minutes, there was some owinged awful that was happening.

[00:51:19] The lines for the people getting the toothpick shoved up their nose to their brain.

[00:51:23] They just panicked.

[00:51:24] Fear is an amazing motivator.

[00:51:27] And they got everything they wanted out of this.

[00:51:30] And they have a baseline now that they can build off of for the future.

[00:51:34] This is criminal to the nth degree on a global basis.

[00:51:38] And the United States started with a contrived, created chimera, a virus that was created to be more virulent and more deadly on a faster basis.

[00:51:54] And then it was offloaded and then it was brought out.

[00:51:56] I believe from top to bottom, everybody that was involved in this needs to be exposed.

[00:52:02] And so I couldn't agree more.

[00:52:04] I couldn't agree.

[00:52:04] But I'm saying for all kinds of reasons, though, if it was legitimately inadvertent, they wouldn't be attacking me.

[00:52:10] They wouldn't be trying to make it to where we couldn't get ivermectin.

[00:52:13] They wouldn't be threatening doctors that are standing up saying, wait a minute, this isn't the science.

[00:52:17] This is wrong.

[00:52:18] They wouldn't be shutting down doctors.

[00:52:19] There's Pierre Corey, who testified before Congress that they found ways to really reduce the likelihood of death from COVID and everything else.

[00:52:25] They wouldn't be doing all those things.

[00:52:27] And so you know that it wasn't inadvertent because of all those actions.

[00:52:31] Last story before the end of the hour.

[00:52:34] Wolverine Packaging Co., I guess they've had to recall over 167,000 pounds of ground beef due to, quote, a potential E. coli contamination.

[00:52:50] 167,000 pounds of beef.

[00:52:53] Doctor, if this doesn't point to why we should deal with things on the local level, I don't know what does.

[00:52:58] Well, I agree completely with that, and that's something that would take a long time to discuss.

[00:53:02] But the fact of the matter is, in every disruption of society, you go back to the French Revolution.

[00:53:09] I mean, you look at everything that Pol Pot did or Lenin or anybody.

[00:53:13] It's always involved a panic about food.

[00:53:16] People that are hungry have a big compliance factor.

[00:53:21] And so this kind of thing about them controlling and operating on these large-scale basis is our food.

[00:53:29] In my little community, we just killed—I didn't, of course—1.8 million chickens that were laying eggs.

[00:53:38] In my little community, 1.8 million chickens.

[00:53:42] Oh, my goodness, isn't it awful?

[00:53:45] We got a bird flu.

[00:53:46] They came through and they disrupted the egg production to the tune of 1.8 million.

[00:53:52] So this kind of thing, we're going to see more of this in the future, I'm absolutely certain.

[00:53:58] There's no question about it, but all I can tell you is that's why we need to start working with our local farmers and everything else.

[00:54:03] If everybody dealt with their local farmers and we grew that segment instead of these, quote, big international global chains and everything else, you wouldn't have these kind of outbreaks.

[00:54:11] You might have an outbreak here or there, but it wouldn't be near as impactful or as huge as we see going on now.

[00:54:17] Not only that, it would save a lot of the environment, shipping that meat all over the place.

[00:54:20] Come on now.

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