Radio Show Hour 2 – 12/26/2024

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[00:00:28] Merry Christmas to you from us, the Liberty Roundtable live team.

[00:00:31] This is the broadcast for the day after Christmas.

[00:00:34] And the guy in the It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year movie says his least favorite day is the 26th because Christmas is over.

[00:00:44] I have shared those feelings, although I will say that we can make Christmas a year-round reality, can't we?

[00:00:50] Right. This is the broadcast for December the 26th in the year of our Lord, 2024, Hour 202.

[00:00:57] We talked the first hour about Donald Trump issuing a series of media posts on Truth Social, literally reaching out to everybody.

[00:01:05] And I just don't see how he's going to do all that he talks about doing internationally, plus deal with the domestic issues, plus deal with issues at home.

[00:01:12] And I played that Rand Paul clip at the end where these guys literally put a bill up.

[00:01:16] They won't even pass their own bill because all Rand Paul wanted to do was take some pork barrel spending out of it.

[00:01:21] And they said no. It's a disgrace.

[00:01:24] But Rand Paul goes further, and he's working now with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy over at Doge.

[00:01:31] And I pray for their success, but I'm telling you, they're running into a buzzsaw.

[00:01:36] You know, at first, Rand Paul was really, really, you know, confident that he could expose and indict and prosecute Anthony Fauci for his criminal activity and his deception and dishonesty related to the COVID con.

[00:01:53] The Fauci facade, as Dr. Bradley puts it, right?

[00:01:56] But yet we haven't been able to touch Fauci.

[00:01:59] Well, the same thing is kind of true here.

[00:02:00] You know, Rand Paul, Ron Paul, they've been working on reducing government spending and accountability forever.

[00:02:06] Can't seem to get much done, although I appreciate their leadership.

[00:02:09] I'm not downing them for the effort.

[00:02:11] I'm just saying.

[00:02:11] So the deep state is very, very hard to get rid of.

[00:02:14] And I'm afraid that Donald Trump and the initiatives he's putting in place are going to make it impossible for Doge to do their job.

[00:02:21] Okay.

[00:02:22] I mean, Trump wants to make Canada the 51st state.

[00:02:25] You think that's going to be like inexpensive?

[00:02:30] You think that's going to be like a money, an influx of cash or something?

[00:02:36] What about taking back the Panama Canal?

[00:02:41] You think that's going to be free?

[00:02:42] What about, you know, annexing Greenland?

[00:02:44] You think that's going to be low cost and stuff?

[00:02:47] Now, I understand the national security concerns.

[00:02:50] But I believe when we built the Panama Canal, believe it or not, we increased trade big time.

[00:02:54] But we also made it increasingly easy for our enemies to get troops from one hemisphere to the other.

[00:03:00] That could really threaten the United States.

[00:03:02] Different if we don't control that canal.

[00:03:04] We gave it away foolishly.

[00:03:06] Trump's right about everything that he points out.

[00:03:08] The problem is how do we go forward and how do we deal with it now?

[00:03:11] Now, and internally speaking, if we can't get our own house in order, ladies and gentlemen, I don't see how we're going to go ahead and get the whole world in order as we seem to want to do.

[00:03:21] Why do we want to be the world's cup?

[00:03:23] Why do we want to control and run the world?

[00:03:25] Let's stop it.

[00:03:26] But Rand Paul releases a report that relates to this directly.

[00:03:30] Rand Paul releases what he calls his annual festivities or festivus list of, quote, wasteful government spending.

[00:03:40] This included $4.8 million on influencers.

[00:03:48] Why are we paying money to influencers?

[00:03:50] How come I'm not getting any of that money?

[00:03:53] $4.8 million, you say.

[00:03:54] That's not much, Sam.

[00:03:56] Yeah, but what about $2.1 million for Paragon Border Security?

[00:04:09] I don't understand it.

[00:04:11] A $12 million cost for Las Vegas Pickleball Complex.

[00:04:17] $12 million on a Las Vegas Pickleball Complex?

[00:04:22] Yeah.

[00:04:24] $32,000 plus on breakdancing.

[00:04:28] Jackson Richmond over at the Epoch Times is documenting this.

[00:04:33] Okay?

[00:04:35] Last festivus, we owed $32 trillion.

[00:04:40] Or I'm sorry, $34 trillion on the national debt.

[00:04:43] In just a year, Washington's career politicians and bureaucrats have pushed it to $36 trillion without even a second thought, Ron Paul highlights in his report.

[00:04:56] Paul highlighted more than a trillion dollars in wasteful spending that included, listen, that included $10 billion.

[00:05:09] $1 trillion.

[00:05:12] Listen, on leasing, maintaining, and furnishing almost entirely empty buildings, right?

[00:05:25] $4.8 million on influencers.

[00:05:27] And we go on and on.

[00:05:29] But you look at that and you go, wow, $1 trillion in wasteful spending, he highlighted.

[00:05:38] That's just Rand Paul releasing that report.

[00:05:44] What about when you deal with all the stuff Doge can dig up?

[00:05:52] There's so many ways to save money.

[00:05:54] But here's the problem.

[00:05:56] I don't see anybody really interested in any of them.

[00:06:00] I mean, if Donald's trying to annex Greenland, you think he's going to be spending a lot of time on, you know, getting rid of this wasteful spending about government buildings?

[00:06:11] I mean, they're calling all these bureaucrats to come back to the government buildings to go back to work.

[00:06:17] How are you going to get rid of the building if you're like, hey, we're going to bring people back to the building?

[00:06:22] Well, if you bring people back to the building, then you're going to have to spend way more than the $10 trillion you got on or $10 billion that you got on it now.

[00:06:28] Right?

[00:06:29] You got $10 billion on that.

[00:06:32] On leasing, maintaining, and furnishing almost empty buildings.

[00:06:36] What are you going to do?

[00:06:36] Bring everybody back into those buildings?

[00:06:38] You think that's going to save you some money?

[00:06:41] So this is what I mean.

[00:06:43] I don't really understand it.

[00:06:44] They say it also consisted of $345,000 on football engagement to counterterrorism.

[00:06:54] I don't even know what that means.

[00:06:59] Okay, they had a trucking company that failed that they put a bunch of money into.

[00:07:07] I guess they call it a loan to a failed trucking company.

[00:07:14] I guess a bunch of money for an ice skate.

[00:07:17] I don't know what this is.

[00:07:20] Cabriolet Show Center on Climate Change.

[00:07:24] What are we even doing?

[00:07:29] Right?

[00:07:30] Well, then, in my opinion, Rand Paul lays out the truth here.

[00:07:36] Who's to blame for our crushing national debt?

[00:07:43] Everyone, Senator Paul said.

[00:07:47] U.S. national debt exceeds $36 trillion.

[00:07:52] And now the feds are saying it's a warning.

[00:07:55] They're warning this.

[00:07:57] The fed survey warns of risk to financial stability.

[00:08:00] What does that mean?

[00:08:02] It means they're saying, hey, the people who lent us the money, in many cases foreign nations,

[00:08:11] they're not taking too kindly to this.

[00:08:15] They're going, hmm, you guys aren't responsible with your money.

[00:08:18] And at some point, they've already made moves to pull out of this thing.

[00:08:23] At some point, it's going to reach critical mass.

[00:08:25] Whether it's bricks.

[00:08:27] Whether it's digital currency.

[00:08:30] Whether it's, I don't know, barter in other nations.

[00:08:34] Skipping the United States.

[00:08:35] Either way, it's going to be disaster.

[00:08:37] Register.

[00:08:37] Now, Rand Paul trying to bring this up.

[00:08:40] But everybody's literally ignoring him.

[00:08:42] You literally heard.

[00:08:43] I mean, he's on the Senate floor trying to articulate for let's reallocate money.

[00:08:50] Even in his reallocation, I don't think he's right.

[00:08:52] I think it's money we ought to not spend.

[00:08:54] But he's more right than he is wrong in the sense that at least if we're going to spend the money,

[00:08:58] let's make sure that it's helping those.

[00:09:01] It's designed to help.

[00:09:03] I mean, I feel torn because I don't really believe that we should be using the government for that purpose at all.

[00:09:09] But Rand's right.

[00:09:10] If we're going to spend the money, at least spend it in ways that make sense.

[00:09:15] That's the problem here that we've got.

[00:09:17] But see, I hear Rand Paul.

[00:09:19] I hear Elon Musk.

[00:09:21] I hear Vivek Grandma Swamy.

[00:09:24] They're like, hey, let's not extend the debt ceiling.

[00:09:27] Donald's like, oh, my gosh, you better give me the debt ceiling extension for at least until 2029.

[00:09:33] This thing's just a clown show.

[00:09:34] This debt ceiling in the first place is ridiculous.

[00:09:39] Right.

[00:09:41] Isn't that what he called it?

[00:09:45] But anyway, I look at that and I just go, what do you mean?

[00:09:52] What do you mean when we talk about this ridiculous debt ceiling?

[00:09:58] See, how are we going to?

[00:09:59] OK, you think it's going to cost any money to change the name of America's tallest mountain back to Mount McKinley?

[00:10:06] Is that going to cost any money?

[00:10:07] So the problem that I'm seeing is.

[00:10:12] Everything.

[00:10:14] That Trump is doing.

[00:10:17] In my mind.

[00:10:19] Is going to cost money.

[00:10:22] It's not going to be free people.

[00:10:26] All these different things that he's proposing.

[00:10:29] All right.

[00:10:30] But we were talking to Lance Migliaccio and George Ballantyne on a previous show a couple of days ago.

[00:10:34] And we talked about Matt Gaetz, who says he probably partied.

[00:10:38] Womanized, drank, smoked too much early on in his life.

[00:10:40] He shouldn't have done it.

[00:10:42] But we defend and believe in the simple, powerful principle of change and repentance, people.

[00:10:50] Matt Gaetz now has a lawsuit basically saying, hey, their house ethics release violates his constitutional rights.

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[00:13:07] It wasn't the last time $34 trillion was the debt.

[00:13:10] This time it's $36 trillion.

[00:13:12] In just a year, ladies and gentlemen, Washington's career politicians and bureaucrats have managed to push it beyond $36 trillion.

[00:13:24] $37 trillion, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:13:26] The numbers are just out of control, right?

[00:13:30] But that's what we get.

[00:13:32] Okay, it's unsurprising though because they did it without even hardly a second thought, folks.

[00:13:36] This isn't a group that's going to save money.

[00:13:38] So I appreciate all these guys trying to do good.

[00:13:41] But they're even going to run into a buzzsaw with Donald Trump themselves.

[00:13:46] Right?

[00:13:46] Who's to blame for our crushing national debt?

[00:13:48] Every one of us.

[00:13:50] Rand Paul said.

[00:13:51] He's right.

[00:13:57] I agree he's right on that.

[00:13:59] Right on that.

[00:14:00] But I don't know what to do about it because I don't see anybody willing to make the changes.

[00:14:07] Why is it all of us?

[00:14:10] Because we the people could remove these congressmen and senators that will not stand with Rand.

[00:14:16] U.S. national debt currently exceeds $36 trillion.

[00:14:21] And now the Fed is warning about its effect on financial stability.

[00:14:27] Right?

[00:14:29] That's huge, right?

[00:14:32] Fed survey warns of risk to financial stability.

[00:14:36] That's what Trump is getting handed.

[00:14:39] And the only way that I can see that Trump could deal with it is really start decreasing costs.

[00:14:51] But I'm not seeing it at all.

[00:14:53] Are you?

[00:14:54] I'm not seeing that anything Donald really wants to do is cutting spending.

[00:14:59] He's never cut spending.

[00:15:02] Has he?

[00:15:05] Okay.

[00:15:05] And now I hear people like Steve Bannon literally saying, hey, we want to go ahead and increase taxes on the wealthy.

[00:15:19] Shame Steve Bannon backs increased taxes on wealthy Americans.

[00:15:24] How do you deal with that?

[00:15:28] Okay.

[00:15:29] Is it going to really help to just tax the rich people a ton?

[00:15:33] How is that going to improve things?

[00:15:34] All the rich do is find another loophole.

[00:15:37] Find another way to pass the taxes downstream to you and me.

[00:15:41] Businesses don't pay taxes.

[00:15:43] Wealthy people don't pay taxes.

[00:15:45] The average rank and file American pays taxes.

[00:15:47] Why?

[00:15:48] Because they've got the commonest IRS judge, jury, and executioner over all of us.

[00:15:53] I don't hear anybody talking about getting rid of that dishonest behemoth.

[00:15:59] I don't hear anybody trying to get rid of that.

[00:16:03] Right?

[00:16:04] And Tucker Carlson delivers this message that basically says, hey, if you don't back Tulsi Gabbard, you're literally an enemy to the Republican Party.

[00:16:12] I don't agree with that at all, but that's the gaslighting Tucker Carlson's involved in recently.

[00:16:19] Anyway, I don't even know how to respond to all this.

[00:16:21] Because everything that I see seems so duplicitous, so contrary.

[00:16:26] How are we going to save money but expand all over the world?

[00:16:30] How are we going to avoid war by virtually threatening war to everyone?

[00:16:37] Economic war on down.

[00:16:42] How are we going to reduce spending?

[00:16:45] Rand Paul issues this Festivus report, or annual Festivus report.

[00:16:53] Or whatever.

[00:16:54] How are we going to...

[00:16:54] But is anybody really listening to that?

[00:16:57] I don't think so.

[00:16:58] He tried to plead with the Senate and the House.

[00:17:01] Unless Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk can join Rand Paul and push for this.

[00:17:08] I don't know how we're going to change the hearts and minds of senators and congressmen.

[00:17:12] Because at the end of the day, they're the ones that control the purse string.

[00:17:14] The House of Representatives.

[00:17:18] Now, maybe that's why they want to make Elon Musk Speaker of the House.

[00:17:24] But that's a difficult task.

[00:17:27] I'm not saying it can't get done.

[00:17:28] I'm just saying that's a very difficult task, right?

[00:17:32] All right.

[00:17:33] We also talked about will TikTok be banned?

[00:17:36] Billionaire Frank McCord wants to buy the app.

[00:17:41] He's the former owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

[00:17:47] Think he'll be successful?

[00:17:48] Think TikTok will be banned?

[00:17:51] And Joe Biden passed legislation that will ban TikTok on January the 19th, the day before Trump takes over.

[00:18:01] How do you think that's going to go?

[00:18:03] Right?

[00:18:04] Now, I'm also worried about several things that I believe the liberals have in place for us when Trump takes authority.

[00:18:13] For example, you look at Boar's Heads.

[00:18:16] That's the big ham company, right?

[00:18:18] The meat company.

[00:18:19] The meat company.

[00:18:20] Cucumbers.

[00:18:21] Frozen waffles.

[00:18:23] McDonald's.

[00:18:24] The biggest food repos of 2024.

[00:18:29] Forbes Magazine and USA Today put this piece together.

[00:18:33] They're concerned because they're saying, man, what's up with all these outbreaks?

[00:18:40] Then the headline says egg prices up again.

[00:18:43] Again, they rise again in November as the bird flu causes havoc in the industry.

[00:18:49] USA Today with this piece.

[00:18:51] The average cost of a dozen grade A large eggs.

[00:18:57] $3.65 in November.

[00:18:59] That's according to the, quote, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

[00:19:03] Now, why they know the price of eggs?

[00:19:06] Again, government creep is the only answer I have for that, right?

[00:19:09] Right?

[00:19:10] That's up, they say, from $250 at the beginning of the year.

[00:19:16] Now, what do you think of that?

[00:19:18] Are we going to have serious price costs problems?

[00:19:23] I pray we don't, but I don't really see how we avoid it.

[00:19:28] When we keep spending ourselves into oblivion.

[00:19:31] And everything Donald Trump is looking at, to me, just seems like spend, spend, spend, spend, spend.

[00:19:37] The only agency we've talked about getting rid of is the Education Department.

[00:19:41] But as I've wisely warned them, many people have highlighted, all they'll do is move the fundamental parts of the Education Department into other departments.

[00:19:50] And then claim it as a win that they got rid of the Education Department.

[00:19:53] What they really did is got rid of the name, the Education Department.

[00:19:56] But they kept most of the fundamental tasks.

[00:19:58] In fact, put them under more, what do you want to call it, abusive agencies?

[00:20:03] In other words, hey, you can't really mess with my mental health of my child in the Education Department very easily because it's education.

[00:20:11] It's not, you know.

[00:20:13] But if they move it to the Health Department, the National Institutes of Health or whatever you want to call it, right?

[00:20:23] Then it changes the game because now health is vital.

[00:20:29] And they'll have more authority and more power under the Health Department.

[00:20:31] So you might lose the Education Department, but regret, really regret moving it to this other department with, quote, more mojo, more ability to pry into your personal and family lives, greater ability to assess you and have the government decide your mental stability or, you know, right?

[00:20:55] That's what we're talking about.

[00:20:56] And we better be really, really careful when we talk about DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency.

[00:21:03] I want the government to be efficient, but only in the things that it's supposed to be doing.

[00:21:07] I don't want to create efficiency in the IRS.

[00:21:11] I don't want to create efficiency in the FDA.

[00:21:16] I don't want to create efficiency in the Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund, where all vaccine companies get off the hook and the taxpayer is on the hook for anything that goes wrong with vaccines.

[00:21:27] I don't want those things.

[00:21:29] But that's what we've got now.

[00:21:32] I don't see any real concrete plans to solve anything by the Trump administration so far.

[00:21:39] I just hear these absolutely life-changing, game-changing pronouncements by Trump getting in everybody's face.

[00:21:49] Oh, we're going to take over Greenland.

[00:21:51] Oh, Canada, man.

[00:21:52] Make them the 51st state, and they're going to go ahead and cut taxes on them big time.

[00:21:58] Why don't we talk about cutting taxes on our own people first?

[00:22:00] And if you can get that done, then by all means, let's talk about other people, other nations.

[00:22:05] But, man, you've got to get your own house in order, and I don't see that we're even close.

[00:22:10] In fact, the more they talk, the more I'm convinced we're off the rails, far afield, not even close to what we ought to be.

[00:22:21] Are they going to increase the debt ceiling?

[00:22:22] It's coming up in January.

[00:22:24] That means they've got a short window.

[00:22:26] Congress comes back a couple of days from now.

[00:22:29] When do they come back?

[00:22:30] On Monday or something?

[00:22:32] Tuesday?

[00:22:32] I don't know.

[00:22:33] And whenever they come back, it's the second, third, fourth, fifth, something like that they come back.

[00:22:37] I don't know.

[00:22:38] And are they going to really double down on it?

[00:22:40] Because as far as I understand, like by the 16th or so, they've got to deal with the debt ceiling discussion.

[00:22:46] Or will government shut down again, or what will happen?

[00:22:48] Or do we just ignore the debt ceiling this time, see?

[00:22:51] We're moving so far from what we intend and what we believe and what we want and what makes sense, right?

[00:22:59] I mean, we really are moving far afield from what I think we should be considering.

[00:23:05] And I bring this up and everybody's just like, well, you know, Donald's a little different this time.

[00:23:11] I hope it's better.

[00:23:14] I sadly think you're kind of getting into a situation if you're not very careful where you're hoping for something that's not reality.

[00:23:22] I mean, I hope Donald can really get a grip on these things.

[00:23:25] But I'm just not seeing it from everything that I'm seeing and hearing.

[00:23:29] For example, let's talk about the deportation plan.

[00:23:32] I'm just not hearing a lot of people put together a plan where sheriffs would lead that or even be involved in that.

[00:23:39] They tip their hat and say, oh, yeah, sheriffs too.

[00:23:42] But then they keep talking about troops among the people and, you know.

[00:23:47] Then San Diego, another quote, what do you call these communities?

[00:23:53] Sanctuary communities or whatever.

[00:23:55] They're quadrupling down on their sanctuary status.

[00:23:58] In contradiction to the government, what's going to happen?

[00:24:00] Are we going to really have showdowns and arrests?

[00:24:02] Or who's going to blink first, huh?

[00:24:06] All right, I'm Sam Bushman.

[00:24:07] Hang tight.

[00:24:08] When we come back, we'll talk about a lot of this more.

[00:24:10] I'm just kind of brainstorming on the show today.

[00:24:11] I know it's kind of a crazy show after Christmas.

[00:24:13] But, man, a lot of these things concern me.

[00:24:16] The question becomes, do they concern you?

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[00:26:00] No lack of finger pointing at Gaza's ceasefire talks.

[00:26:03] Hamas accused Israel of introducing new conditions related to the withdrawal from Gaza,

[00:26:08] the release of Palestinian prisoners, and the return of displaced people.

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[00:30:26] There's just clowns everywhere, and I'm just afraid that we're spending way too much money,

[00:30:30] and we have no chance of reducing it.

[00:30:32] I pray I'm wrong.

[00:30:34] Predict I'm right.

[00:30:35] They have a lot of ideas.

[00:30:36] But man, when Donald Trump is ready to go ahead and annex Greenland and take over Canada,

[00:30:41] how's he going to focus on the domestic issues?

[00:30:44] Oh, well, we'll leave that to Doge.

[00:30:46] The Doge folks don't have any, you know, real authority.

[00:30:49] They just can make recommendations.

[00:30:51] Their first recommendation should have been, hey, Rand Paul just released his report.

[00:30:56] We support Rand Paul's report.

[00:30:58] Let's save this trillion dollars instantly.

[00:31:00] We could do this immediately.

[00:31:02] Rand Paul releases annual Festivus report or whatever, and when he points to a bunch of stuff,

[00:31:09] Doge just needs to say start there.

[00:31:10] Boom.

[00:31:11] Start with Rand Paul's penny plan.

[00:31:13] Boom.

[00:31:14] Boom.

[00:31:15] But we exceed $36 trillion in debt, and I don't see it slowing down anytime soon.

[00:31:20] Donald's begging for the debt ceiling to be increased.

[00:31:23] Everything Donald's doing looks like it will be spending money, money, money, money.

[00:31:27] And you can say, well, Sam, why attack Donald Trump like this?

[00:31:30] When the Democrats would be worse.

[00:31:32] I get it.

[00:31:35] But when Steve Bannon backs taxing the wealthy more, is that the answer?

[00:31:39] Just to tax the wealthy people more?

[00:31:41] I don't think so.

[00:31:42] I just think they'll change their habits and less will trickle down.

[00:31:46] Right?

[00:31:48] Then we ask, will TikTok be banned?

[00:31:51] That ought to help.

[00:31:51] Just ban the TikTok communist Chinese from their social app, but let them, you know,

[00:31:56] just tap right into our phone systems.

[00:31:57] We covered that over the last couple of days.

[00:32:01] See, we've got so many difficulties.

[00:32:03] So much on Donald's plate.

[00:32:05] He can't have a prayer to get even a tenth of it done.

[00:32:08] All right?

[00:32:11] Now, there's a study out that I think is absolutely goofball.

[00:32:17] It's in a website called D-N-Y-U-Z.

[00:32:23] D-N-Y-U-Z.

[00:32:26] I don't know how you say that, but there you go.

[00:32:28] And the headline says,

[00:32:30] The speed of human thought lags far behind your internet connection.

[00:32:38] New study finds.

[00:32:40] Think about that.

[00:32:41] The speed of human thought lands way behind your internet connection.

[00:32:47] Now, to those of you who sit there, you know, drumming your fingers while you're waiting for the site to load or whatever else,

[00:32:55] well, it's in the eyes of the beholder in how you handle it.

[00:32:58] Here's the problem.

[00:33:00] They say this guy, Dr. Meister, got the idea for the study while teaching in, quote,

[00:33:07] introductory neuroscience class, and he wanted to give his students some basic numbers about the brain

[00:33:15] that no one has been able to figure out how fast things flow through the nervous system.

[00:33:23] Okay?

[00:33:24] He said he could estimate that flow by looking at how quickly people carry out certain tasks to type, for example.

[00:33:31] He says, so we look at a word.

[00:33:33] We recognize each letter.

[00:33:34] We sort it all out in the sequence in our mind.

[00:33:36] We then, you know, have to press the different keys as we type.

[00:33:41] Information flows into our eyes, through our brains, into the muscles of our fingers.

[00:33:47] The flow rate, you know, basically relates to how fast we can type.

[00:33:51] The average people type about 51 words a minute, and a very small percent of the population can type over 120 words a minute.

[00:33:58] Now, Dr. Meister and his graduate student, Jiu-Jang, used a, quote, branch of mathematics known as information theory.

[00:34:14] Hmm.

[00:34:14] Let me get that straight.

[00:34:15] We're talking about math.

[00:34:16] We're talking about theory.

[00:34:18] Aren't they contradictions in terms?

[00:34:20] Mathematicals are factual equations.

[00:34:24] A segment of mathematics known as information theory.

[00:34:28] I don't know that that qualifies as math.

[00:34:30] That's a theory, right?

[00:34:31] Anyway, there you have it.

[00:34:32] It estimates the flow of information required to type at 120 words a minute.

[00:34:36] They say the flow is only 10 bits a second.

[00:34:41] So he says that I've been thinking there must be faster behaviors than this.

[00:34:46] But they say championship video players might have higher information flow when they're completing their task.

[00:34:52] You can look at them on YouTube and their fingers are so fast.

[00:34:56] They can move their fingers quickly.

[00:34:57] They have fewer keys to choose from.

[00:34:59] But when she took a close look at the performance of these people, she came up with the same estimate for their rate of information.

[00:35:08] 10 bits per second.

[00:35:10] Perhaps the researchers thought that our body's physical limitations create a, quote, information bottleneck.

[00:35:16] But to test that possibility, they say they analyzed medical feats that don't depend on fast muscles.

[00:35:27] I don't even know how to do these terms.

[00:35:29] They call this blind speed cubing.

[00:35:36] Blind speed cubing.

[00:35:38] I guess in which a player looks at a Rubik's cube, puts on a blindfold, and solves it at a 2023 competition.

[00:35:49] Anyway, they say it takes 5.5 seconds to inspect his cube, and he can solve it in 7 point whatever seconds.

[00:35:56] And then they say, hey, we calculated the information rate during his, quote, inspection, 11.8 BPS.

[00:36:03] Even people with extraordinary visual recall have a relatively low information flow.

[00:36:12] They call it the five-minute binary, where players, I guess, in this game, try to deal with long stream of ones and zeros.

[00:36:20] They get five minutes to look it over.

[00:36:23] These thousands of numbers, then after a 15-minute break, try to recall as much of it as they possibly can.

[00:36:28] The world record for this game was set in 2019 by the Mongolian memory champion, Munchur Narmanac,

[00:36:38] who, I guess, did 1,467 numbers.

[00:36:43] Anyway, they say that she did this with that information flow of just 4.9 bits per second.

[00:36:51] The speed of human thought, they say, is dwarfed by the flood of information via computers.

[00:37:00] Now, I find this fascinating, and I'll tell you why.

[00:37:03] Because I believe that we're full of baloney.

[00:37:07] Yeah, they say the speed is dwarfed by information that assaults our senses and stuff.

[00:37:13] I think that they're not even on the right, in my opinion, the right track for the discussion.

[00:37:21] That's my opinion.

[00:37:22] Take it for what it's worth.

[00:37:23] But I think they're not even on the right track with the discussion.

[00:37:25] First off, I don't believe that they're accurately monitoring the speed like they say they are.

[00:37:31] Secondly, you know what?

[00:37:32] The Internet is not very intelligent.

[00:37:35] It's very good at sending you a gazillion pieces of information.

[00:37:39] And to prove this point, go on to Google and type in something very generic.

[00:37:45] And your result list will be in the millions of hits.

[00:37:51] Millions.

[00:37:54] And the human brain has the ability to take those million hits and already know what we're kind of wanting or thinking is the purpose of our request.

[00:38:08] Now, think about what I'm saying.

[00:38:10] We already know what the purpose of our request is.

[00:38:13] So that million, that massive data that's so fast to be delivered to me, 99% of it is not even relevant to what I'm doing.

[00:38:24] First of all, even if you take the part that is relevant to what I'm doing, how many duplicates are there?

[00:38:30] How many almost identical phrases are there?

[00:38:35] How many, right?

[00:38:36] And you look at that stuff and you go, yeah, the Internet's king at just pushing tons of data down your throat, data overload.

[00:38:47] But your brain has the ability to take that data overload and instantly reduce it down and control it to be exactly what you're desiring or wanting.

[00:38:57] And the brainless computer has no ability to filter that in a meaningful way.

[00:39:01] You say, oh, Sam, you're wrong.

[00:39:03] Artificial intelligence can do that.

[00:39:05] Yeah, the more guidance I give it, the more it can do that.

[00:39:09] And it can do it wicked fast.

[00:39:14] But can it do it efficiently like I can?

[00:39:17] Can it relate to what I'm asking for?

[00:39:19] The answer is only if you give it a ton of guidance.

[00:39:23] If it was really artificial intelligence, it should be able to know what my mind's wanting or thinking and deliver to me what I want, right?

[00:39:33] Not even necessarily what I ask for.

[00:39:34] But I use ChatGPT all the time.

[00:39:37] And I'll say, hey, can you write a summary of this or can you give me a sample of that?

[00:39:42] And it comes back and oftentimes it's so out in the weeds, but two or three or four words from me instantly put it in the right realm.

[00:39:51] Is that artificial intelligence getting me in the right realm or is it Sam Bushman intelligence?

[00:39:56] And I submit to you, the computer can't even do it.

[00:40:00] Well, you could say, well, Sam, the computer could never know what you want.

[00:40:03] Yeah, but I know what I want.

[00:40:06] If I think what I want and then ask the computer, the computer gives me back wicked fast information.

[00:40:11] Who brainchilded all that?

[00:40:14] Now, take another example to make the point.

[00:40:16] Don't LEDs, just listen carefully to me, don't LEDs produce light at a fraction of the power that the old light bulbs, the old fluorescent kind of light bulbs offered?

[00:40:29] Now, could we say, since these new light bulbs use way less power, that they provide way less light?

[00:40:36] No.

[00:40:37] No.

[00:40:37] What we say is these new LEDs are so much more efficient at using power.

[00:40:43] Wow.

[00:40:44] Maybe is it that our brains are super efficient, not needing such high, quote, baud rates or transfer rates to accomplish them?

[00:40:51] Maybe we need less throughput on the Internet and more effective throughput, huh?

[00:40:56] Hang tight.

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[00:43:06] So we're talking about this interesting study where they say the speed of human thought is dwarfed by a flood of information that assaults our senses.

[00:43:17] Okay?

[00:43:19] And I disagree.

[00:43:21] I mean, I agree that you can overwhelm your senses with too much information.

[00:43:26] But we somehow want to believe that you can't deal with that information.

[00:43:30] Right?

[00:43:32] And I disagree with that.

[00:43:33] The headline is the speed of human thought lags far behind your internet connection study finds.

[00:43:43] But I'm not buying it.

[00:43:44] I'm not accepting it as that simple.

[00:43:46] Okay?

[00:43:47] I think it's much more complex.

[00:43:49] And I think the problem is they just, they want to act like they've got a handle on science and they don't.

[00:43:54] All right?

[00:43:55] Dr. Meister and Ms. Zhang estimated that the millions of photoreceptor cells in your single eye, for example, can transmit 1.6 billion BPS.

[00:44:14] What?

[00:44:17] In other words, they say, but you can't capture all that.

[00:44:19] I can see all that, but you can't capture all that.

[00:44:23] In other words, we sift out about one out of every 100 million we receive.

[00:44:33] Psychological science has not acknowledged this conflict.

[00:44:40] People should be asking, why do we receive and can interpolate so much information, but we use so little bit of it.

[00:44:48] But there was a Britain neuroscientist, I guess, over at, what do they call this thing?

[00:44:59] Case Western Reserve University, who was not involved in the study, questioned whether Dr. Meisner and Ms. Zhang captured the flow of information in our nervous system.

[00:45:12] Okay?

[00:45:45] Very little information actually flows through the brain.

[00:45:49] He says, I think their argument is pretty airtight.

[00:45:52] And my response is, yes and no.

[00:45:55] Again, if we were able to receive so much information and narrow it down, so they say, we receive one out of every 100 million signals or whatever, and actually cognitively deal with it in our brain.

[00:46:08] But is it that our brain is so incredibly high-tech that it can filter that information in ways that we haven't tracked yet?

[00:46:15] So we think it's just throwing away all that information, but it's really not.

[00:46:18] It's processing so dang fast somewhere else, for instance, and then trickling this little bit through to your whole body.

[00:46:26] In other words, it's so incredibly efficient.

[00:46:30] It might be unconscious body signals, right?

[00:46:36] Now, they say we ought to compare our information flow with that of other animals.

[00:46:40] They say other animals will even be slower.

[00:46:46] Now, flying insects that make split-second changes to their flight pattern and everything else, maybe they have all kinds of information flowing through their brains, more so than we can even imagine.

[00:47:00] I don't know that it's true, but what I find fascinating about this whole study is we think we're so smart.

[00:47:09] Really, we think we're so smart, but I don't think we are.

[00:47:13] I think we're fooling ourselves if we really think we're that intelligent.

[00:47:20] Now, why do we think that our brains are so slow and computers are so fast?

[00:47:24] This is the same idea that believes that AI is going to take over the world tomorrow.

[00:47:29] And I want you to know that AI is not even close.

[00:47:31] Even if you ask some of the best robotic teams in the world, go to the communist nation of China, go to Elon Musk.

[00:47:38] Those are your two key points that are probably further along than anybody else.

[00:47:43] And you look at it and they say, look, human task robots or multipurpose task robots or whatever term you want to use for them, right?

[00:47:53] Those robots aren't even close to coming out, right?

[00:48:00] They're very expensive.

[00:48:01] Right now, probably $30,000, $40,000 for a basic one.

[00:48:06] And it's not even that smart to get that much done, right?

[00:48:13] We're not even close.

[00:48:19] So I really want to warn these scientists.

[00:48:21] When you speculate like this, you're not into hard science.

[00:48:26] Okay?

[00:48:26] You've got a theory at best.

[00:48:29] Maybe you're even only at the hypothesis level.

[00:48:32] It's that...

[00:48:33] I don't even know what to call it.

[00:48:35] You're that far down the line.

[00:48:37] And when we say the brain doesn't process these signals, and you say the human brain only, you know, processes 10 megabits per second or whatever, you're off your rocker crazy.

[00:48:49] You are missing most of the throughput channels somewhere.

[00:48:53] You're looking at, hey, when you type.

[00:48:56] Yeah, typing is a very simple task for most people.

[00:49:01] But what about making decisions instantly?

[00:49:04] Life and death questions.

[00:49:06] Or complicated decisions about what I'm going to say next on the radio.

[00:49:10] You see, I don't have a script in front of me at all right now.

[00:49:12] Nothing.

[00:49:13] I looked at the headlines, two or three headlines to get the details of the story right, and now I'm on my own.

[00:49:19] And my question is, hey, I can write up something based on that.

[00:49:24] I can feed AI a big thing, and it can write a whole two-hour thing.

[00:49:28] But all it can do is write from its database.

[00:49:35] I've got my whole plethora of experience at my fingertips.

[00:49:42] How does my brain, when I'm talking on the radio at 5 BPS or whatever they're going to say that it takes,

[00:49:47] do I draw upon that vast 50-plus years, half a century-plus years of knowledge and experience

[00:49:55] and contextual to our world implementation or articulation on the fly, huh?

[00:50:02] How does all that happen?

[00:50:03] Is it because the brain's just going so darn slow, computers can run circles around it?

[00:50:08] I don't think so.

[00:50:10] In fact, if that's the case, why aren't computers programming the people?

[00:50:15] Oh, Sam, but they are.

[00:50:18] Not if I turn it off, it's not.

[00:50:21] Can the computer turn me off?

[00:50:23] Not until you create kill ability in the robots to just kill me.

[00:50:29] See, the thought that human thought lags behind your Internet connection is just preposterous.

[00:50:35] Now, the idea that it might be so much more efficient at distributing information

[00:50:41] where it can run at low bods and low speeds and very efficiently, I buy that.

[00:50:47] But the idea that the speed of the human brain is dwarfed by the flood of information that assaults our senses,

[00:50:55] I buy that in a sense.

[00:50:58] Because, yes, you can send information too fast for the brain,

[00:51:02] but you can also send information too fast for the computer.

[00:51:05] How come when I type real fast does my keyboard get behind sometimes and it lags?

[00:51:09] Because Windows can't keep up.

[00:51:13] How come when I try to do video, my computer can't handle it?

[00:51:18] It gets overwhelmed and stutters or this and that because the computer can't handle it.

[00:51:23] How come humans are always waiting on their computers, not the other way around then?

[00:51:29] See, we're not really thinking about this in a holistic way.

[00:51:33] We're isolating out something.

[00:51:35] The one doctor captures it perfectly that wasn't part of the study.

[00:51:39] Okay?

[00:51:44] But they left out the unconscious signals that our body uses to stand, to walk, to recover from a trip,

[00:51:55] to think about your love life, to think about the relationships between you and others around you,

[00:52:01] to breathe, to have your heart beat, to, okay?

[00:52:06] You look at all that and you say, man, they're just not thinking correctly at all on this, in my opinion.

[00:52:14] It's a disgrace.

[00:52:16] And I think we sell ourselves short when we release studies like this.

[00:52:20] Now, if they wrote the study differently or were honest and said, man, we don't understand how the human brain transfers such little data at low speeds compared to the Internet,

[00:52:31] we don't understand how that can be.

[00:52:34] Seems like a whole lot more data would need to be going through the brain pipes or whatever you want to call it, the brain wires, the nerves.

[00:52:41] But to act like we have a handle on it and we have an honest comparative tool is where I reject the science.

[00:52:48] They're learning and that's good.

[00:52:50] But they draw conclusions that are absolutely propaganda.

[00:52:54] At some point in the next 5, 10, 15, 20 years, they'll have a breakthrough and they're like, oh, the way we were monitoring it didn't monitor, you know, this and this and this.

[00:53:02] And here's why and here's that.

[00:53:03] But we got a new tool that's better at it.

[00:53:05] Great.

[00:53:06] Advancement in science.

[00:53:07] Wonderful.

[00:53:08] But when we start to act like the Internet or the AI or that, you know, our creation somehow is greater than we, the creator, they're peddling you propaganda.

[00:53:24] They're gaslighting you into a belief that, man, everything and everyone is smarter than you are.

[00:53:32] And it isn't true.

[00:53:34] Just take the moral component of thou shalt not steal.

[00:53:38] You can internally understand that and it can become part of your DNA of who you are.

[00:53:43] You're a moral person and you believe in God and you believe thou shalt not steal is one of his commandments and you're going to obey that.

[00:53:50] Computers have no morals.

[00:53:52] They're only going to have the morals of those who program them, right?

[00:53:58] So they're absolutely, in my opinion, narrow minded in their thinking.

[00:54:02] And I guess some of these people are running at maybe 10 bot or something or 10, you know, megabits per second or something.

[00:54:08] Maybe they are that slow.

[00:54:10] But to realize that God created the human and the human still can't be understood by we the people or computers tells me we got a lot to learn.

[00:54:18] Let's humble ourselves, not act like we're on the high and mighty mountain and we have a clue because we don't.

[00:54:23] Okay.

[00:54:24] God's in charge and he knows us and he loves us.

[00:54:26] Our brains operate just as he intended.

[00:54:28] And don't think you can create a computer that's better in every way than you.

[00:54:33] You'll never create something greater than your creator created you.

[00:54:37] You just can't get it done.

[00:54:39] It's a fundamental law of reality.

[00:54:40] The creation is not greater than the creator.

[00:54:43] I'm Sam Bushman.

[00:54:44] God save the republic.

[00:54:45] God save the republic.

[00:54:46] So now its a great work.

[00:54:46] Thank you.